General motorsport placement / graduate thread [merged]

Hi

I have just started motorsport at college, I was wondering if anybody knew of any race teams, in and around Swindon, It needs to be accesible by train, it can be up to an hour away, but in December I will 17, but i am not sure who long it wall take me to learn to drive.

i am intrested in a race team.

James

Try Merlin Motorsport, their based at Castle-Combe

Hi

But there not a race team, they just sell racing parts

I would like to become a mechanic

James

Try Dialynx in Swindon run by Keith Murray. Do a google

Keith is a very nice bloke and some of the stuff they build there is extraordinary. Then there are the race cars they build.

Audi orientated but very state of the art. And Keith is a decent engineer.

Hi

Thanks for that, what do they actually do there, at the moment I can get on the website

James

Ray West Engineering at Thruxton, another nice fellow.

hi

Got a website for that, or contact details

James

Hi there, I'm in my forth year study of aerospace engineering in Canada. I want to go to UK to study Motorsport or more specifically aerodynamics used in motorsport.
What universities are generally good? What are my chances of getting a job after say a one year Masters degree?

Really need help.
Thanks a lot!!!

If its motorsport you want to do go to Cranfield Uni, if you want to specialise in aero go to somewhere like Southampton, thats where Adrian Newey went.

Cranfield does an aerodynamics module but you won't be an expert after that 1 week.

Cranfield did (still does?) a 1 year M.Sc purely in Aerodynamics as well - that's what i did in '97-'98.

Southampton Uni and Imperial College, London do similar courses. The impression i got was that the course at Imperial was academically harder than Cranfield's, and also that both of those Unis had stronger links with motorsport, particularly F1. I do not know, however, if that situation's changed since the Motorsport courses sprung up at Cranfield, since they weren't available when i was there.

Other people may have had different experiences, but i would say that it is actually more important to find the right connections to get 'a foot in the door' than it is to have the right qualifications. I now work in F1 and there are many aero people there with no formal aero qualifications at all. It's such a difficult area to get into and it seems a fair number of people got 'in' through some form of "old boys' network", or were just in the right place at the right time.

In the regular car industry too aero is seen as a job that "any good engineer can adapt to". While this is true to some extent with any engineering discipline, my own opinion is that formal training does help a bit more with aerodynamics because it is so non-linear in nature. This characteristic makes trying to pick it up purely by on-the-job experience much harder, as i've seen quite often from working with various people in the field over the last 10 years. Doing an Aeronautical degree or a specific Master's gives you a really valuable head start on the opposition in terms of actually doing the job day-to-day, if perhaps less so on getting it in the first place, if you see what i mean. :)

Hi

Does anybody knows of any companys that deal with road cars or races cars would be ideal as that would give me the best amount of experience.

Anybody know of anywhere?

James

Have you considered registering on the Castle Combe Circuit forum and asking there ?

I think you will be lucky to find a race team next door to railway station though!

Hi

Does anybody knows of any companys that deal with road cars or races cars would be ideal as that would give me the best amount of experience.

Anybody know of anywhere?

James

Dialynx as mentioned above - web address below


http://www.dialynx.co.uk/

Hello, i am 17 and currently attend South Tyneside College doing my A-Levels. My aim is to go to uni and do a motorsport engineering course, or maybe drop out and go to the National College for Motorsport. I was just wondering if anyone will need help while racing at croft circuit next season or while testing? or if anyone knows of any teams that will need help at croft?

Thanks

Hi Colin,

Welcome to 10ths :)

May I also suggest if you are in the North East and can't travel too far about becoming a marshal?

Just pop into the marshals forum and someone will help :)

Hi

On combe forum, not much on there, and will try that one in swindon

Thanks

thanks robin

Hey Colin - Also welcome to 10ths.

Many race teams can use help in the shop, before and after the races. Not just at the races.

Race cars take hours of prperation before each race.

Good Luck

Thanks AU N EGL. The only team near to be is robertshaw racing but i have tried them

having an had the pleasure of having a hard working lad helping around the shop over summer break ....
I have to say: good on ya mate!
of course the glamor is the car prep shop
don't forget to ask at the bike or kart prep shops
any wise machine, composite, or welding fab shop will want to review your CV
it's all good knowledge to have

best O luck

drop out and go to the National College for Motorsport.

Stick with your current plan (and avoid going there - its rep aint as good as its marketing). If you can't find help here - just go to Croft on race days and wander round at dawn everyone offering to help - I assure you your offer will be accepted. Do that at every meeting. Work as hard as your body permits - allow yourself to be treated like scum/slave. Its worth it - your attitude is spot on - keep it up

If want advice on unis feel free to email me - sam_collins@ipcmedia.com (mods don't worry - my addy is public domain). Though my advice will include getting a subscription to RCE!

Mods is it worth merging all the student threads together (there are likely to be more)? - James - see my advice to Colin on the other thread same applies to you - just change Croft to Combe.

Are you at Lackham/Combe if so the guys there are bloody good, I'm planning on visiting again soon so feel free to come and have a chat. I'll help you as much as I can

again see my advice to the others (james & colin). However you seem to be at a higher level. Realistically for a masters there are only two options Oxford Brookes or of course Cranfield and the other courses listed here.

You may be better off coming here - doing a crap job (supermarket/sales etc) and working free for a year for one of the many intermediate constructors developing thier aero - that project will get you job offers I assure you. Give me a shout if you want - my details are on the other thread

on a wednesday i have been helping out at HRS motorsport who are a karting team. British and european champions.

Excellent well done. Thats exactly the stuff you need to be doing

do you reckon if i wrote to teams they would let me help out or would they not reply?

Hi

I am at lackham at moment, if i go on to 2 year course I will be at combe

James

Probably they would not reply - its worth a try - I did the same when I was 16 and ended up in a F1 team

do it - the course is excellent and the staff are first rate

Mods is it worth merging all the student threads together (there are likely to be more)?

Please! Also I think it's probably worth having a sticky FAQ type article containing a list of motorsport courses at all levels and a quick guide on the best ways of getting experience with a team. I used to answer these topics regularly but got tired of it so haven't recently. TBH I think that anyone should at least try the search forum feature, plus Google and maybe turned up at a few circuits with CVs (it's how a lot of us on here including myself got jobs) before asking a question here.

Thanks for the Input. It seems like more and more people are telling me that getting the connection is very important. Since there aren't many motorsport activities in Canada, I don't have too much motorsport connection so far.
I'm not sure how much connection is there between these masters program and the industry. I know this question depends on how active you are and so on. But in general, is it hard to know people working in the indutry?

Thanks for the Input. It seems like more and more people are telling me that getting the connection is very important. Since there aren't many motorsport activities in Canada, I don't have too much motorsport connection so far.
I'm not sure how much connection is there between these masters program and the industry. I know this question depends on how active you are and so on. But in general, is it hard to know people working in the indutry?

Or move to Moorsville, NC. Heart of all the NASCAR race shops and now many GrandAM teams.

There are also the Grand Am boards and ALMS boards that have Help wanted section and Position needed sections. Post your info on those two boards would help.

nascar ? god yea they are very aero!!

connections are the key, but u need the info too, and a will to learn, no point going to a uni and expecting to be taught, u have to learn!!!
but im sure u know that, if u wanta nice job u gotta earn it.

nascar ? god yea they are very aero!!



NASCAR teams spend a lot of time in the wind tunnel. Moorsville NC has two Commercial and one private ( Penske ) Wind Tunnels. SO Three wind tunnels in one town.

Besides it takes a lot to make a BRICK aero.....

i will contact a few team before the season starts. I know the f1 team will not reply but i might try the small ones and maybe a few le mans teams.

Don't forget historic racing. They won't be able to pay in most cases but you will get valuable experience.

i will contact a few team before the season starts. I know the f1 team will not reply but i might try the small ones and maybe a few le mans teams.

Before the season means NOW. Teams are very busy now rebuiding cars at the race shops.

No offence and I do hope you get hooked up, but ppl who help at the shop are the first to be asked to help at the track.

i am not looking to get paid, i would help any team for free.

Hi

I think I am not going to try and get any work experience for the moment. As I have tried some places and they are not intrested or dont even reply, and I have myself a Christmas job.

But I already have been offered a few race teams but they are just for race meetings, not avainable to help, as alot of them are small family run teams.

Any suggustions

James

Look here for http://www.racingjobs.com/

Found an Aerodynamicist Position too
Description

To further strengthen the Aerodynamic team, this Formila 1 team is looking for a qualified creative and forward thinking individual in the field of aerodynamics.

"Aerodynamicist is needed
to work with a team of engineers, who are involved in projects from concept through to testing to final product definition.

The position will involve leading a team of Aerodynami-cists and Model Designers, working with the CFD Group and interacting with other Groups within the Company.

This F1 team is currently involved in the construction process of their own state-of-the-art wind tunnel. The construction should be finished in 2003 and this is the reason why they are looking for more engineering staff capacity.

Job location: Hinwil, Switzerland - Europe.

Look here for http://www.racingjobs.com/

Found an Aerodynamicist Position too

This F1 team is currently involved in the construction process of their own state-of-the-art wind tunnel. The construction should be finished in 2003 and this is the reason why they are looking for more engineering staff capacity.

Erm, does this site get updated frequently? ;)

Erm, does this site get updated frequently? ;)

Who knows. But better then looking on a forum . . .

Who knows. But better then looking on a forum . . .

Agreed, i was just joking about how the advert you quoted was from 2002! :)

Hiya guys. Another ambitious teenager here.

I'm at an important time of my life for choosing an career path, and as you have guessed already I'm looking to seek a career in the motorsport sector.

I'll try and keep this short for you all, because I know a lot of people ask the same old stuff.

I have narrowed down my search for universities to Oxford Brooks and Hertfordshire University to study Motorsport Engineering or Technology, mainly because I have read on forums such as this that they are the two most highly regraded uni's offering this course.

Ultimately I'm looking for a hands on technician job in a competitive saloon (btcc, wtcc, dtm) or single seater championship (champ car, a1gp, gp2, wsr, f1 would always be nice)

Advice would be great about my degree and uni choices and your personal experiences.

Regards,
Tom

Does anyone here know the typical career path for a vehicle dynamics engineer in F1? Can people go straight into such a position from school?

For example, my friend and I will both have a masters in Mech Eng with a thesis in vehicle dynamics very shortly, and we have no idea how to get from here into a decent racing job (i.e. F1 or high-end sportscar). There are plenty of options in OEM/consulting companies, but that just doesn't cut it for us.

Hi UNiiQU3 I am currently half way through my first year of Motor Sport Engineering at Brookes.

To be honest if you want a practical hands on job in the industry (i.e. mechanic) then a B/MEng course is a waste of time. The course is entirely aimed at design engineers rather than technicians. You would be better off applying for the Motor Sports technology courses that are more (but not much) practical based. But really the best thing you could do if you want to become a technician is to do some form of apprenticeship where you will learn on the job. Most mechanics have gone through that route.

Generally though I was in the same position as other people to post in this position, searching for a weekend or summer job for a racing team. I am lucky because I managed to get my job and I have learned a huge amount and had a great time doing it.
My main tactic was to write tons of letters. I wrote to every team or supplier in Britainoften more than once. Most people will either ignore you or send a polite 'we'll keep you details' letter. But some will reply giving some advice or if you're lucky someone will offer you a position.

Sorry if thats a bit long. If you have any more questions though don't hesitate to ask.

Ranald

Hi Ranald, thanks for the quick reply.

I have considered an apprenticeship but feel after doing my A-Levels it might be a step down because I could have taken an apprenticeship straight after my GCSE's.

I will be trying my best to get some work with the teams in the summer. I've got a good contact with Oliver Jarvis's PR advisor and she has arrange for me to meet him and the team at A1GP Brands next year.

Could experience in motorsport it's self and a motorsport degree offer me a job as a technician?

Could experience in motorsport it's self and a motorsport degree offer me a job as a technician?

It could but really a B/MEng degree would make you overqualified (if thats possible) for a technicians role. The main problem with Uni' degrees is that (extremely frustratingly) they offer very little in the way of practical learning with is vital if you want to work in motor racing but particularly as a technician. A BSc is a little better but won't really be enough.
Your contact sounds pretty promising make sure you talk to all of the team members and find out who is in charge of hiring.

What about the national college for motorsport? A think you can do a 1 or 2 year course and get offered a job at the end.

Does anyone here know the typical career path for a vehicle dynamics engineer in F1? Can people go straight into such a position from school?

For example, my friend and I will both have a masters in Mech Eng with a thesis in vehicle dynamics very shortly, and we have no idea how to get from here into a decent racing job (i.e. F1 or high-end sportscar). There are plenty of options in OEM/consulting companies, but that just doesn't cut it for us.

Pratt & Miller over in New Hudson MI has engineering openings
http://www.prattmiller.com/employment.php

Riley Technologies in Moorsville NC
http://www.rileytech.com/contactus.asp

Good Luck with your search

Pratt & Miller over in New Hudson MI has engineering openings
http://www.prattmiller.com/employment.php

Riley Technologies in Moorsville NC
http://www.rileytech.com/contactus.asp

Good Luck with your search

Thanks AU N EGL, but I consider those to be just beneath the top level. PME and Riley do great work, but what I'm interested in is more of a F1/top sportscar organization.

Pratt& Miller is THE top Sports car racing team in the WORLD.

Pratt & Miller aka Corvette Racing.

Pratt& Miller is THE top Sports car racing team in the WORLD.

Pratt & Miller aka Corvette Racing.

I'm well aware of what PME does. But I doubt Audi Sport, Peugeot, Porsche, etc would agree with your statement.

Hi, I've got another problem...
I'm currently in my final year of Bachelors in COMPUTER SCIENCE. Now, I'm thinking of a Masters in the US or UK, preferably in the field of computer science. Since the motorsports/automotive industry has strong links with the computers, I was wondering about what my major should be to atleast give me a chance of getting a job in the motorsports/automotive industry.
In other words I would like to know what qualifications do people who make computer equipment/softwares/systems for the motorsports/automotive industry have that gets them in?

Thanks!

Look at some automotive web sites and their help wanted or emplyoment section. Read the computer related jobs that are offered and what the qualifications are ?

I'm well aware of what PME does. But I doubt Audi Sport, Peugeot, Porsche, etc would agree with your statement.

Audi and Porsche are great cars, but Peugeot? Did you ever wonder why there are no new Peugeots in the US ??? Think about that one a while.

Have you ever worked on an Audi ? and What is that Porsche phrase, a Poorly engineerd car over designed to perfection. Just Kidding.

Dont be short sighted, some times jobs are were you least expect them. Good Luck on your Job hunting

Not wanting to tread on anyone's toes here, but weren't you talking about sportscar racing teams, not road cars? The 'factory' Audi, Porsche & Peugeot sportscar projects have almost no link at all to their road car products or operational infrastructure. All they get from their parent companies is financial support and some aspects of fuel injection system, however between them they have been fantastically successful in racing.

PME have done extremely well with the Corvettes, beyond question, but if it really came down to a "who's collected the most trophies in sportscar racing" competition against Audi Sport, Porsche & Peugeot Sport, they might not get on the podium there.

Not wanting to tread on anyone's toes here, but weren't you talking about sportscar racing teams, not road cars? The 'factory' Audi, Porsche & Peugeot sportscar projects have almost no link at all to their road car products or operational infrastructure. All they get from their parent companies is financial support and some aspects of fuel injection system, however between them they have been fantastically successful in racing. Do you think engineers for the "Performance division" come off the streets or Uni? More like up thought the ranks. Those Plumb jobs are for the best and brightest. Or who have cracked the F1 market.

PME have done extremely well with the Corvettes, beyond question, but if it really came down to a "who's collected the most trophies in sportscar racing" competition against Audi Sport, Porsche & Peugeot Sport, they might not get on the podium there.

One does not start at the TOP unless they ( the manufacture ) finds you first and picks you out from another team.

I would also bet that some of the top manufactures performance divsions ar like NASCAR team jobs, there are no 8-6 work hours, it work until the job is done 7 days a week. You rest when your dead or sleeping in the truck.

SAE has a division to help engineers find jobs in the automotive industry.

SAE has a division to help engineers find jobs in the automotive industry.

Well, that's all well and good, but we're all looking for jobs in the motorsports industry. They are less related than you think.

Do you think engineers for the "Performance division" come off the streets or Uni? More like up thought the ranks. Those Plumb jobs are for the best and brightest. Or who have cracked the F1 market.

One does not start at the TOP unless they ( the manufacture ) finds you first and picks you out from another team.

I would also bet that some of the top manufactures performance divsions ar like NASCAR team jobs, there are no 8-6 work hours, it work until the job is done 7 days a week. You rest when your dead or sleeping in the truck.

I think this is all getting a bit confused. My point was that the manufacturers themselves are almost entirely separate from the race teams. A manufacturer's Performance Division is not the same as their race teams. Typically they sub-contract that side of things out to dedicated race car preparation companies.

In the British Touring Car Championship we have Honda (Team Dynamics), Vauxhall/GM (888 Racing), BMW (WSR) and SEAT (North & South). In World Touring Cars there is Cheverolet (RML) and BMW (Schnitzer). In GTs there is Aston Martin (Prodrive). In Rallying there is Subaru (Prodrive, again) and occasionally Mitsubishi (Ralliart). None of these companies exchange staff on any level with the manufacturer. They get given a cheque by the manufacturer's marketing department and a load of stickers to put on the car and they go racing for them. That's about it.

I am well aware of WORKS teams which in many cases are Differnt Businesses then the Manufacture they represent.

Maybe I am wrong, but the three works shops I have toured, the employees and engineers orginally came from that manufactures, not out or a University or were highered off the streets or from JOBS_R_US dot com

The employees changed jobs and came from or were sub contract out from that manufacture to the contracting engineering firm that represented that manufature racing effort.

To those guys/gals looking for engineering jobs with a race team, GO 4 IT. We wish the best of luck.

SAE career center http://www.saecareercenter.org/

Have you ever worked on an Audi ? and What is that Porsche phrase, a Poorly engineerd car over designed to perfection. Just Kidding.



I love my Audi A4 and the one before it, but after having to practically disassemble everything near the firewall to get the battery out and replace it, my next car is likely to be a Pontiac G8.

Highcroft are currently hiring. They're looking for a general team manager and a race engineer. I think this adds some credibility to the 2nd car rumor. http://highcroftracing.com/07_hr_recruitment_ad.pdf


(http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2088386)

From another thread

not too many recent graduates out there with the experience to do those jobs, I think

I can't personally vouch for the other Uni's but I have to say I'm impressed with how my engineering course at Brunel is going, and after Christmas I might have a little bit of time to try and look into helping out some teams, hopefully there are some near Uxbridge.

I'm glad I've started on a route in engineering, there were several other things that could have been easier for me to get into with better/constant wages, but motorsport is a passion, and the courses you take only give you what you put in. And I must admit, putting the hours in and getting 100%'s out is very, very rewarding, and will hopefully set me up for a positive career somewhere in this mad mad world.

It's all good! Nano nano! (hehe)

Hi steve.

What about the national college for motorsport?

I can't say I heard much positive stuff about it - try Wiltshire college they are very good indeed

Found a few more in the US:

" continuously growing professional, national level race car team is seeking a skilled technician/mechanic. Applicant must have previous experience in the automotive performance industry. Basic fabrication skills, MIG and TIG welding skills, and a commercial driver's license are favored. Applicant must have a strong work ethic, self-motivation, good communication, and the ability to be a part of a team. All applicants must have a good mechanical aptitude and ability to learn quickly.

Job will include travel for the full 2008 World Challenge race season as well as various other race and track activities. Additional work in the BimmerWorld shop consists of race preparation, work on customers' cars, and support equipment maintenance. Applicants must be able to get a passport and be willing to spend a large amount of time traveling.
We are looking for employees to join a successful, growing business to help propel us into the future. This position is full time and long hours are occasionally required, including working weekends."
http://www.world-challenge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1040

Looking for fly in crew for the Playboy MX5 cup 2008 season. CT base team with five cars.
For more information call or email:
Randy Hale
http://www.world-challenge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1039
Hale Motorsports

http://www.world-challenge.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=8e4d92395a92f2b9b1f7f3794efebd7d

I can't say I heard much positive stuff about it - try Wiltshire college they are very good indeed

I would defiatly go to Lackham college, they are very good, they are always there to help, all the lectures are from different types of motorsport. At the moment I am on for distinctuios in every unit of my work, only one in my year, I have only been able to do this due to the dedication of the teachers, as they have been pushing me to improve my work, to get me to a better standard of work, were as there are other people on my course who dont want to learn and are distruptive, there are only about 3 people on that course who want to learn, so the teachers can see that and give us help when we need it and concentrate fully on us, as the teachers say there you can only get as much out of the course as you put in, so if you put the effort in they will help, but if you dont they wont.

James

I know the lecturers at Lackham - and yes they are very good and have access to a lot of the industry

Hi

Who do you know at Lackham

James

Hi Guys

I'm coming to the end of my third year doing Performance Car Technology (BEng Hons)

I'm looking to get into engine building preferably, got experience working with big american V8s up to 2000bhp from drag racing

Just looking for a list of motorsport engine builders in the UK and places to apply

Hey guys,

Greetings from Oz.

Some of the advice given in this thread is really good so i thought ide give it a go.

Anyone here have any advice as to study etc when it comes to us over here in Australia, im currently studying Mechanical Engineering and motorsport as my second major at The Queensland University of Technology.

Thanks in advance.

Hi, I'm a Kingston University Student graduating this summer. Looking to move to Nottingham in September and trying to find companies that may have suitable work for me.

BEng (hons) Motorsport Engineering and experience of wind tunnel development in industry, Design & FEA/CFD and have worked for endurance racing team over the last couple of years. Adaptable jack of all trades (master of none).

Are there teams/constructors close by? I have dredges quite hard and found not so many. Help would be appreciated.

Thanks

I am 22 years old and have just finished a three year course studying Motorsport & Powertrain Engineering BEng (Hons) at Coventry University and expect to graduate with a 2:1. From this I am progressing to the Motorsport Engineering MSc course, and during the summer months I am seeking a practical position within a race team to further my motorsport experience.

During my final year I have played a key role in the Peugeot 206 project which competes in the CSCC Tin Tops. I took on the role of team leader, holding the responsibility of organising the development, build and preparation of the car. I possess a high level of practical skills and have experience with all aspects of engine development, race car set up, test days and race events.

I am based in Coventry with my own transport and I am prepared to travel. If you require any other information please feel free to PM me.

Thanks.

I have a serious decision to make. I'm choosing from a Msc Motorsport Engineering in Cranfield University or a PhD aerodynamics project in Imperial College. I have the offer from Cranfield already but not from IC yet.

My question is what is a typical career path of a PhD in Motorsport, especially in aerodynamics? The thing I am afraid of is that after my PhD program, I still won't have much experience in any part of a racing car except aerodynamics. I don't want to stay in University and do research as my career.

Thanks for any input!!! I would really appreciate it!!

How far can a BSc get you in a F1 team?

Anyone have a BSc here?

Thanks :)

Hi Schumy7

I picked up your email. I work at Cranfield and was very involved in the early days of the MSc Motorsport Engineering and Management, getting the course up and running and building links with the sector. I am not as involved these days but do know that a fair % of Cranfield students secure positions in motorsport, including F1 teams. This said the MSc course doesn't guarantee a job and nor does a PhD. Both can provide platforms/channels but it is down to you to make the most of any opportunity you get. At Cranfield you will come into contact with people in motorsport with influence and your project work should also attract interest from prospective employers. You will get a technical overview and the insight into management over the 12 months. There aren't many institutions that can rival Imperial College (in my opinion one of the best universities) and a PhD relevant to motorsport aerodynamics should serve you in good stead, especially if the project is aligned to a team. However, you have to make a massive commitment for three years to get the most from the opportunity. And you will be locked into an aerodynamics related role for a number of years after that. Horses for courses, the choice is very much yours. Both have their virtues. Good luck whatever route you decide to take.

hey

I am starting the Automotive and Motorsport Engineering course at Brunel this October.

Does any1 know about any Graduate Schemes run by large motorports teams or manufacturers?

hey

I am starting the Automotive and Motorsport Engineering course at Brunel this October.

Does any1 know about any Graduate Schemes run by large motorports teams or manufacturers?

Which one are you doing? The Automotive Engineering and Motorsport ones are different (they even follow slightly different routes, so swapping isn't really cricket)
Oh, and we start on the 29th September ;)

Hi I'm Brian, I'm 21, have two years of Mechanical Engineering done in Waterford Institute of Technology and now I'm on the HND Motorsport Engineering programme in Swansea Metropolitan University.

I'm looking for a placement oppurtunity within a company / team that designs & develops either rallycars / hillclimb cars / touring cars / GT's / Sportscars ect.. Actually anything is considered :)

I do not have my own transport and I'm based in Swansea.

If anyone want to contact me, send a PM.

Thanks,
Brian Fenton.

P.S The dates are the 18th of May to 26th of June '09

Hello everyone,

I'm an engineering student over here in the states. I'm working hard both in the classroom and on the track in order to become a race car engineer. I decided that having a website that showcases myself and my abilities would only help me make my start in motorsports professionally.

I would greatly appreciate it if you would check out my site. Feel free to leave me a message on my guestbook, join the forums, or send me an email.

http://www.coreymeltonmotorsports.com

Thanks!

Corey Melton

hello
sorry to go digging up a bit of an old thread but i could really do with some help here, i am now in my last year of senior school and am due to leave in june.
i am wondering what is my best option of a route to take to get in to motorsports, ideally i would like to go into chassis and suspension design and manufacture.
i wasnt actually aware about how many different uni's offered motorsport courses, i thought it was only really swansea and cranfeild that did them.

i wasnt planning on doing A-levels , but like a lot of people say 'doing BTEC's are the easy option, and A-levels are proferred by employers'
wich is probably perfectly true.

so i can do my A-levels, and then go on to do a Bengs in motorsport engineering, but as has been explained above this isnt really a hands on course, so would it still be appreciated by employers??

Also what uni would you guys reccomend for doing this course at?

or any other advice for a possible career path to take?

i already have quite a lot of practical experience and im gaining more all the time:)

Never heard anyone say BTECs and Diplomas are a easy option. They are up to A-level standard. I would recommend doing a engineering diploma before heading into university and doing a engineering degree as you will have knowledge of engineering in place.

I did a national diploma in mechanical engineering and it has helped me no end with my course at university. I was already able to read engineering drawings and do some mechanics calculations before entrance so you gain quite a lot on others who just have A-levels thus the first year shouldn't be too difficult.

Running a A-level in physics or maths alongside the diploma, or even taking a additional module in your diploma would go nicely with it.

I recommend Oxford Brookes but then again I am biased as I attend Brookes!
Truthfully you won't find better engineering facilities anywhere. The new technology labs are state of the art and you won't find anything better in the country or probably the world. There are plenty of companies linked to motorsport around. You got Williams, Force India, Renault, (BMW car factory) etc not far a way. This is "Motorsport Valley". Racing is in the blood here.

There is a open day in February (can't remember the dates) it might be worth attending ;)

Thanks

I don't want to sound like the merchant of doom, but has anyone thought about the current financial crisis and how it will affect motorsport?

Rumour I heard last week is thast Renault F1 sacked their whole test team and cut salaries. The pool of qualified engineers with F1 experience who don't have a job is pretty high right now.

If I was in my early twenties I'd be looking at a back up plan and perhaps staying in education a little longer to hopefully hit the job market when things (hopefully) start to improve in a few years time.

Ben