shall redbull sack mr marko?

Lam Pak
28 Jul 2008, 14:02
Soooo, in f3 euroseries this weekend , redbull drops tom dillmann who then comes back with probably the most unfancied team out there and beats all redbul's juniors all weekend.

i think red bull doesnt make the right choise always. for me this year they washed their 4 best talents: flipo albuquerque, stefano coletti and edy piscopo and jo edwards. dilman is ok and he did well as rookie in 2007. he deserves a second chance and he is taking the revenge and started the weekend destroyed.

red bull has a weird politics, in asia they sponsor a 40-years old man in formula renault cause they say they cant find a fast chinese! how can?

shall redbull and owner dietrich mateschitz sack mr marko?

i think so cause all over the years he has being destroying a lot of young drivers.

META4
28 Jul 2008, 14:23
AFAIK Karun Chandhok is the Only Asian Driver part of the RedBull Junior Team


Maybe the strategy of Mr Marko , is to get onboard as many good drivers as he can , then drop most of them to keep only one . Then the ones who have been dropped will struggle to find new drives and lose confidence

This is not from today , they have been running on this strategy for already many years . I cannot remember all the names of the RebBull Junior drivers from the begining but they dropped guys like Friseacher,Jani,Wirdheim,Luizzi,Flemming,Albuquerque,Zaugg,Piscopo... and many other ones

Who are they Running in F1 ? Coulthard ,Weber,Bourdais and Vettel.

Only Vettel has been part of the ReDBull Junior Team , which means the ladder does not really work properly

Lam Pak
28 Jul 2008, 14:28
only Vettel has been part of the ReDBull Junior Team , which means the ladder does not really work properly

ye,when the company doesnt suceed the company board sacks the ceo!

ivanalesi
28 Jul 2008, 15:08
Well, that's not exactly the best moment to want this. I mean, RB drivers are on fire in BF3, Mika Maki is quite good in F3 Euro, Juncadella is good in FBMW, Ricciardo is great in FRenault, then you have Buemi in GP2 and Karun who's coming to grips lately. But you're right about Coletti and Dillman, but the reason may well be in the team. I mean, Dillman had to be kicked already last year, he never showed anything and suddenly he went to the least fancied team and got a podium! Also, Dillman is not kicked from RB, he's still wearing his RB liveried suit and helmet. This means his athlete status is lowered, probably they pay for less expenses now. You can become Red Bull athlete not that hard, but there are several levels. The lowest is to receive cans of Red Bull every month, then they pay your travel expenses and so on... the highest is full sponsorship for whatever you want. Last year was weird though, I expected them to keep Zaugg for obvious reasons, yet they decided to drop him!? They probably dropped Albuquerque because he didn't want to go to Japan, a new important market for them. Anyway, dumping Marko is a huge task, you can see with how much respect DC threats him... he's way too close to the big boss and you've gotta find another Austrian, otherwise Mateschitz won't change him. I always thought it would be better if Berger was head of it. Yet, on top of it, it may not change anything. Many of the decision have been marketing, Red Bull is all about marketing. They say you need to have the Red Bull spirit in order to become one of their athletes, if no, no matter how good you are - sorry! What you say about China is weird, the local branches don't have the freedom to get an athlete. Strange thing is that some desperately want it, but they don't have the freedom to do it. They have to fill some athlete dossier, send it to Austria and then they receive the decision. I've also seen Red Bull liveried amateur gentlemen racers in GT and I don't have an idea how this works. Probably the local branch simply decides to spend some of their local channels money into this, I've no idea.

META4
28 Jul 2008, 20:42
The "Japan Deal" of RedBull was just a bad excuse, RedBull is not involved in anyway on the Japanese Motorsports Scene.

There are definitly some "Local Channels" that support some Motorsport action, For instance Neel Jani still wears RedBull logo , even if he is not part anymore of the Programm

As it has been said before, It is just marketing, they got onboard 3 French drivers (DIllmann,Vernay and Vergne) probably the main motivation was to promote the new coming RedBull in France

The thing is when you get involved on this program, you have to get ready to be droped without any fair rule

Regarding the support of a driver in China, I believe it is just a "Comedy" done by FRD, , they just "forgot" to repaint fresh Kato's the car. Even for Kato , i do not believe they paid any expenses for him. All drivers part of the programm are racing in Europe, where the strong championships are

Even more if you consider that "chinese RedBull" is not the one from Austria , it is made in Thailand and sold in Gold cans

OJB
29 Jul 2008, 11:21
Robert Wickens has said a few interesting things about this before:

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/renault/news/165020-0/wickens_plays_down_red_bull_reputation.html

Mekola
2 Aug 2008, 01:05
Well, the only Argie involved in the RB programme was Matías Milla, only a year in the German F. Renault. Now the company sponsors Norberto Fontana, who is not that young, but a great figure in Turismo Carretera, TC2000 and TRV6 touring car series...

META4
2 Aug 2008, 02:24
Fontana is probably supported by RedBull Argentina , and not part of the "Junior Team"

Lam Pak
4 Aug 2008, 15:47
redbull gonna lost everything cause their drivers are just kids to burn quickly. none of them is to use in f1 and mr marko tactics dont make sense. dilman was dismissed and hen he shotted redbull kids all in once. long hair hanley was battling for british f3 crown and mr marko move the kid to euroseries where the voices of vw are dummy. riciardo was the one in formula renault and he is being forced in euroseries f3.

META4
4 Aug 2008, 16:16
The guy with the Long Hair is Hartley and not Hanley, i do not think his move to F3ES has anything to see with RedBull, but not Sure about that....

Lam Pak, RedBull will never loose anything because they have nothing to Loose. They have the Money so indeed the Power...

Of Course you can criticize them on their choices (like i Did precendently) but Thanks to them to pull some millions of Euros into Motorsport otherways i do not see who would do it

Lam Pak
6 Aug 2008, 17:19
anyone who thinks the redbull racing is about good drivers is deluded. none of the so-called poor drivers but quick is a true poor. that's not the definition of a poor driver. they are rich and professional. the redbull, meanwhile, doesnt deserve nothing , not only for their choises, but for the way they don't honor free intellectual thought, freedom of speech, or assembly, or patents and trademarks of the drivers. they are not avaricious termites and the young drivers program is so badly managed.

META4
6 Aug 2008, 17:42
are you depressive Lam Pak?




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