Monza 1960 - Italian GP

Cub
6 Oct 2008, 13:10
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Enzo Ferrari inspects Hans Hermann's Porsche F2. Hans is on the right and John Cooper looks into the cockpit. Italian GP - Monza 1960

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Refuelling Fred K. Gamble's Behra-Porsche at Italian GP, Monza 1960.

Cub
7 Oct 2008, 13:32
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Wolfgang von Trip's Ferrari

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Hans Herrmann's Porsche

John Turner
7 Oct 2008, 22:26
This is facinating stuff.

AdamAshmore
7 Oct 2008, 23:14
I love the Agip refuelling can.

Cub
7 Oct 2008, 23:40
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Centro Sud Cooper-Maserati of Alphonso Thiele

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Vic Wilson, Cooper Climax

John Turner
8 Oct 2008, 10:40
Ok, I reckon that we may be the first to view this treasure trove of pictures for many, many, years, and it's great that cub has chosen to reveal them to 10-Tenths. I really think, cub, that you ought to tell us the name of the photographer and in what capacity, he took these wonderful pictures.

(Incidentally, I do know who cub himself is, since he has contacted me by PM and these pics could be the first of many, so I think that we are in for a real treat)

Enrico Spaggiari
8 Oct 2008, 17:02
What a wonderful stuff !!!
Thank you very much Cub for posting such these great pics.
Any shot of Giulio Cabianca in Cooper T51 ? (he finished 4th)

Cub
8 Oct 2008, 20:06
Ok, I reckon that we may be the first to view this treasure trove of pictures for many, many, years, and it's great that cub has chosen to reveal them to 10-Tenths. I really think, cub, that you ought to tell us the name of the photographer and in what capacity, he took these wonderful pictures.

(Incidentally, I do know who cub himself is, since he has contacted me by PM and these pics could be the first of many, so I think that we are in for a real treat)

My father is the photographer. He was and remains an enthusiast for all motor sports. My mother worked in a photography shop and had access to early colour film and bought him a Voigtlander 120 format camera. They embarked on many, many adventures to various locations across Europe at a time when few people choose to drive around the continent for holidays. All of his slides are glass mounted but with rapidly deteriorating and very sticky taped edges.

My exercise now involves cutting the film out of the glass mounts, scanning and manipulating the result to produce a digital emulation of some truly fascinating material. I am then re-housing the originals film in some modern plastic folders. I am lucky that my Dad is still around to recall various facts about the people and places involved and sharing the results with a knowledgeable and appreciative community like 10-tenths would seem a good way to share the pleasure.

We are concious that publishing the pictures on a public forum makes them vulnerable to intellectual theft but on balance we feel that sharing some wonderful memories with an appreciative audience is worth the risk rather than leaving them to deteriorate in some dusty boxes.

I hope the mods will allow me to roll out results as and when I get the time to do the scanning and drip feed the threads as my Dad and I catalogue the results.

Just to prove this a family affair below is a picture taken at in front of the pits at Le Mans of my Mum with their Standard 8 in 1959 and another of my Mum and me at the Nurburgring in the early '70s.

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Cub
8 Oct 2008, 20:23
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Horace Gould's Maserati

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Phil Hill, the Winner of the Italian GP, Monza 1960

John Turner
8 Oct 2008, 20:24
Fantastic, and many thanks. I'm sure that we all feel privileged that you and your father are prepared to share them with us and we look forward to many more, as and when time enables you to do post them.

Cub
8 Oct 2008, 20:48
Any shot of Giulio Cabianca in Cooper T51 ? (he finished 4th)

May well be. We are still sorting.

Cub
8 Oct 2008, 21:24
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Seidel's Cooper F2

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Dennis Jenkinson by Wolfgang von Trips' Ferrari F2

ensign14
8 Oct 2008, 21:30
Good Lord, this is astounding stuff. Especially as that race had so many one-offs to make up the numbers. Any shots of the JBW that nearly nicked a point? Or even Arthur Owen?

Also interesting to note John Cooper was there, despite the British boycott.

Many thanks for sharing.

(No. 10 is Wolfgang Seidel, btw.)

Navyflier
8 Oct 2008, 21:59
Enrico, yes there is one of Cabianco. We will come to it.

Navyflier
8 Oct 2008, 22:04
Yes I do have a shot of Brian Naylor in the JBW. I was in his pit when he retired and I do believe he was in tears.

ensign14
8 Oct 2008, 23:56
Aw. That's sad...I suppose because he was *that* close to being classed as an A-graded driver?

First Brit to drive in the Daytona 500 though. :)

Steve Wilkinson
9 Oct 2008, 10:53
I love the Agip refuelling can.

Also Fred Gamble's crash helmet.

jamesholland
9 Oct 2008, 14:37
Wonderful photographs Cub, we are privilaged that you have chosen to share them here.
May I respectfully point out the car shown in the bottom photo in post 12 is a Maserati 250F and not a Ferrari Dino

JeanL
9 Oct 2008, 15:30
Many thanks for those fantastic photos,
I believe the car #22 post 12 is the Maserati 250F sn2529 of Jo Bonnier at the British Grand Prix 1958.

Navyflier
9 Oct 2008, 16:58
Yes Ensign! Not only John Cooper was there but also Lofty England of Jaguar.

Navyflier
9 Oct 2008, 17:19
Wonderful photographs Cub, we are privilaged that you have chosen to share them here.
May I respectfully point out the car shown in the bottom photo in post 12 is a Maserati 250F and not a Ferrari Dino

Absolutely right. This was Bonnier's Maserati at British GP 1958. When I put on the captions I didn't pay enough attention as I didn't then know that my son, Cub, was going to put them on the web. Sorry! I'll be more careful in future. However, I hope you enjoy them. There are more to come.

Aysedasi
9 Oct 2008, 21:42
Well, having stumbed on the Silverstone and Reims pics and having been directed here by cub - what can I say? Magnificent. Many many thanks to Navyflier (of whom I am very envious ;)) and cub for posting the pics here. I hope we will be treated to more?

Barry Boor
10 Oct 2008, 00:54
Frankly, there is enough material here for a wonderful book; but thank you so much for giving allowing us the opportunity to look at them free of charge.

Navyflier and Cub, you should both be very proud.

john ruston
12 Oct 2008, 23:24
These and the other series of prints are the finest set of Historic Prints to find their way onto any Forum for many years,Thank You

I note that many of the foremost Historians have found 10/10ths due to the
decision to show the prints.Can we publish a book,?

DAVID PATERSON
13 Oct 2008, 05:36
Thank you Cub & navyflier for sharing these pictures with us, they are truly wonderful! :)

terence bower
13 Oct 2008, 21:10
Cub,Navyflier,how could anyone ever describe the fantastic feelings evoked by these incredible photos,thank you so much for sharing them.

Cub
13 Oct 2008, 22:03
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Italian GP 1960. Ferrari No.20 is Phil Hill's (the winner) and No.22 is von Trips' F2 Ferrari

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Monza 1960

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Italian GP 1960. Vic Barlow of Dunlop speaks to Lofty England of Jaguar whilst John Cooper looks on.

ensign14
13 Oct 2008, 22:59
John Cooper looks quite the mafioso there! :D "Just keeping an eye on business..."

Of course no. 20 was the last front-engined car to win a World Championship Grand Prix.

Andrew Kitson
14 Oct 2008, 19:46
All of these photographs on these threads are fantastic. Incredible quality for such old transparancies (with the help of photoshop?) Thankyou so much, brilliant.

Cub
15 Oct 2008, 19:15
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My Mum, wondering whether to buy my Dad one for his birthday. :)

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Alphonso Thiele, Monza 1960, in Cooper-Maserati

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Willie Mairesse tows "Taffy" von Trips around the banking at Monza 1960

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The dreaded Monza banking. This shot was taken during practice.

Barry Boor
15 Oct 2008, 20:08
Wonderful, wonderful stuff!

We will all be very sad when there are no more to post.

Cub
15 Oct 2008, 20:30
Wonderful, wonderful stuff!

We will all be very sad when there are no more to post.

That will be a very very long time!!

ensign14
15 Oct 2008, 21:50
:gogirl:

Wonder what that badge on Thiele's helmet is?

Barry Boor
15 Oct 2008, 21:55
That's wonderful news, Cub!

Peter Dunne
16 Oct 2008, 10:12
Wow,wow,wow. This is AMAZING! These pictures are like the motorsport equivalent of finding the Dead Sea Scrolls!

If there was an award for poster of the year, it would surely go to Cub and Navyflier :winner:.

My new morning routine: Coffee and straight on to the Historic Image Archive. Keep up the good work :)

Cub
26 Oct 2008, 09:06
Any shots of the JBW that nearly nicked a point?

We found this one.

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Brian Naylor in his JBW at Italian GP 1960.

Barry Boor
26 Oct 2008, 09:09
Another wonderful photo, Cub, thank you so much!

Cub
26 Oct 2008, 09:24
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Wolfgang von Trips in his F2 Ferrari. Italian GP 1960

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Edgar Barth in helmet talks with Hans Hermann and Huschke von Hanstein of Porsche. Italian GP 1960.

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Hermann steps out of his Porsche, Italian GP 1960.

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Phil Hill at Italian GP 1960.

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Wolfgang Seidel's Cooper at Monza 1960.

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Hermann's F2 Porsche. Italian GP 1960.

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Wolfgang von Trips' F2 Ferrari at Italian GP 1960.

ensign14
26 Oct 2008, 11:54
Great stuff!! Many thanks, I think that's the only colour shot of the JBW in period I have ever seen. I presume the red stripe reflects the Maserati engine, certainly that resembles a Maserati badge on the front.

Cub
26 Oct 2008, 15:14
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Willie Mairesse being greeted by his wife in the pits at the end of the Italian GP 1960. He had "towed" von Trips in the F2 Ferrari throughout the race.

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The starting grid at the Italian GP 1960. Phil Hill, Ritchie Ginther and Willie Mairesse in their Ferraris on the front row.

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"Taffy" von Trips with his F2 Ferrari on the grid of Italian GP 1960. Earl Howe is in the cap behind the car.

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Phil Hill on the grid at Italian GP 1960 which he won. Signor Dei of Centro-Sud is on the left.

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Phil Hill and Ritchie Ginther talk with Chitti of Ferrari on the grid of Italian GP 1960.

Cub
26 Oct 2008, 15:24
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John Cooper and "Lofty" England examine Hans Hermann's F2 Porsche at Italian GP 1960.

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Phil Hill and Tavoni at Italian GP 1960.

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Wolfgang von Trips in F2 Ferrari at Italian GP 1960.

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Enzo Ferrari, Wolfgang von Trips, Maglioli, Phil Hill and Chitti in the Ferrari pit, Italian GP 1960.

Cub
26 Oct 2008, 15:35
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Chitti tells Wolfgang von Trips how to do it at Italian GP 1960.

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Ritchie Ginther leaves the pits. Italian GP 1960.

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Wolfgang von Trips puts his shoes on. Italian GP 1960.

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Phil Hill tells Willie Mairesse to "keep his shirt on" whilst Madame Mairesse looks on from the pits. Italian GP 1960.

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Enzo Ferrari and Ritchie Ginther at Italian GP 1960.

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Willie Mairesse leaves the pits at Italian GP 1960.

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Wolfgang von Trips F2 Ferrari at Italian GP 1960. Vic Barlow of Dunlop is in the white shirt on the left.

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Mairesse's Ferrari at Monza 1960. Note their is no No.13 garage, but 12a and 12b.

Cub
26 Oct 2008, 15:50
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Karl Kling stands by the Mercedes 300SL driven by Alberico Cacciari in the IX Coppa Intereuropa at Monza 1960. No.48 was the Alpha Romeo Giulietta driven by Pierpaolo Poillucci.

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Cub
26 Oct 2008, 15:56
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Wolfgang von Trips talks with Chitti after the Italian GP 1960. Note how Wolfgang von Trips' helmet and face are blackened from following so closely to Mairesse throughout the race. By "towing" him they managed to beat the Porsche, which was faster, for the F2 race.

Cub
26 Oct 2008, 23:01
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Willie Mairesse in his Ferrari at Monza 1960.

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The Start Parade at Monza 1960.

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Monza 1960.

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Wheeling out to the start of Italian GP 1960.

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Seidel's Cooper is pushed to the start of Italian GP 1960.

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Piero Drogo's F2 Cooper at Italian GP 1960.

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The dreaded banking at Monza 1960.

aerogi
18 Nov 2008, 19:30
These are probably one of the best (amateur) pictures I've ever seen in the history of the internet... :thumbsup:




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