It strikes me that just lately we have met some wonderful new friends in Historic Racing and Racing History. It is marvellous to see this forum becoming busy, and the learning exhibited is of the highest order.
Perhaps now is the moment for a few introductions. Tell us a little bit about yourself, and the aspects of racing history which most fascinate you. Have you got any ongoing projects to tell us about? A historic racing programme? A website? A research ambition? A memorabilia collection? What's the part of your enthusiasm which occupies most of your time?
To start the ball rolling....
Tim Dudley, 34, based in North West London. I'm currently engaged in putting together what I hope will be the definitive story of racing at Brooklands. In my dreams, I'm hoping to out-Boddy the great William Boddy, who is the acknowledged world authority...
Well, I said "in my dreams".
Also avidly trying to ascertain the fates and whereabouts of all "W.O." type Bentleys, especially the one which was owned by my Grandfather, and which has so far escaped discovery. Trying to build up as complete a collection as possible of post-war British club race programmes (800+ and counting), and of course plugging the gaps in my run of Autosports.
Over to you...
Ray Bell 28 Jun 2001, 10:44 Ray Bell is my real name, I have been writing about motor racing in Australia for some 31 years and a follower of that racing and a lot of International racing since late in 1962.
My preference is the mysticism of the past, particularly the Specials that enabled people who didn't have the money to buy factory cars to race. In Australia, this meant most of them...
I currently write for Motor Racing Australia and edit the National Newsletter for Historic racing in Australia.
DAVID PATERSON 28 Jun 2001, 10:59 I'm 31 years old and i must admit that my interest in historic Racing, largely begins and ends with Historic Touring Cars. As a matter of fact, my number 1 hobby/interest is Touring Cars of all forms.
I've been watching motor racing on TV since the mid '70s and trackside since 1985. The annual 1000km Touring car races at Mt Panorama, Bathurst are my favourite event. I haven't completely given up hope of taking part in the Great Race one day.
I compete in Historic Touring Car racing in a Datsun 1600 (Nissan 510). I'm presently a member of the Historic Racing Car Club of Queensland and the Appendix J Touring Car Association of New South Wales.
Alright then. The name's Markwick. Colin Markwick (just doesn't have the same 'ring' as Mr Bond). I too am 34, from Leeds. My particular interests lie in the European F2 Chamionship/Cup that ran from 1967-1984. I used to love F2, the likes of Giacomelli, Surer, Henton, Daly, Boutsen, Johansson, the Fabis, Bellof all stars in F2. Great racing.
I also have an interest in Pre-war Grand Prix racing. Especially the period after WW1. Reading about the likes of Nuvolari, Carraciola, Varzi, Chiron etc. in those Alfas and Auto-Unions - Jeez, truly it is a different world we live in now.
Now Tim, going back to the F2 thing...how extensive is that Autosport collection of yours? ;)
Darren Galpin 28 Jun 2001, 11:18 I'm Darren Galpin, 26 years old and living in Bristol, England. I am the owner of the website http://www.silhouet.com/motorsport, which covers vast amounts of historic racing, listing results and track maps - I am interested in virtually all historic racing! Current projects include adding the complete World Sportscar results and updating all my non-championship F1 results. As well as keeping up with all of the emails and new information that I receive (and having a life beyond my computer!). I occasionally write articles, most of which are published on www.8w.forix.com under the specials section, with the odd article scattered here and there around the rest of the web.
I'm Stacy Vickers, I'm a member of the committee of the Classic Saloon Car Club and am interested primarily in national classic saloon racing in all guises.
I'm currently racing a Mazda RX7 in the Classic Group 1 Touring Car Championship, and am building a Vauxhall Firenza for Post Historic Touring Cars. Racing took a knock with some house moves fairly recently and current garage space is limited which is a blow!
I have a website at http://www.thirtyfive.co.uk which is my usual racing number.
Rob Trebble,from Lincs,UK.
Race fan since 1953.Tend now to lean to things historic.Must be age!
Special interest currently is female race drivers.
Sponsor of 2CV team.
Vitesse 28 Jun 2001, 13:06 I'm Richard Armstrong, age 45 (oh dear!), currently residing in Midsomer Norton (just down the road from Darren).
As indicated in the Gurney thread, I've been following the sport since the mid-60s. First hero: Graham Hill. Other heroes: Seaman, Rosemeyer, NUVOLARI!!, Wimille, Damon Hill ...
Particular interests: well, everything really, but I lean towards GP racing in the period between 1930 and 1975.
I possess a select but fairly extensive motor sport library and have one of those brains that is full of all sorts of information which can occasionally surface in the right place at the right time: the last time I said that, Ray kindly compared me favourably to Encyclopaedia Britannica! I hope it was meant as a compliment!!! Funnily enough, I used to sell EB for a living ...
These days I run a convenience store, which severely limits my time at tracks (to the point where it's almost non-existant!) but it gives me some time for research and trying to help others on the board ... if I don't know the answer, with a bit of luck I'll know where to find it.
My records are nowhere near as complete as they once were - I lost a lot of papers and magazines in a fire in 1987, but now that there's so much on the net I'm starting to reconstruct some of my listings.
GrahamC 29 Jun 2001, 07:01 Graham Clayton, 36 years old. from Sydney Australia.
My interest with motor sport started when attending
the Liverpool speedway in south-west Sydney in the
early 1970's.
I have always had an interest in speedway, but follow
other forms of motor sport too, including being a
spectator at Rally Australia, which is part of the
World Rally championship.
As well as the racing, I enjoy reading and watching
the history of motor racing, the cars, drivers,
circuits, etc.
My current project is researching the history of the
now defunct Windsor speedway in north-west Sydney,
which ran a single season in 1949/50, and then
from 1955 up to approximately 1967.
Dan Friel 29 Jun 2001, 13:38 Dan Friel, aged 25 (youngest so far..). living down in Winchester, UK.
Brought up on VSCC meetings at Silverstone, Marshalled for 8 years adn attempting to sprint my MG Midget this year..
My racing year seems to be based around the Goodwood Revial meeting in September, and would reckon that 60's - 70's saloon cars are my personal favourite.
ok i'll join in
Marcus Garth , 27 Albury , NSW Australia
my main interest in historical stuff is pretty limited hence me not being a regular poster in this forum..but i do come in from time to time and read about what you guys are talking about and find it quite informative and am astounded by the knowledge that is about.
my main interest in racing is probably Formula One from 1980 through to 1994 or there abouts...personally I think those 14 years were the best probably because thats the only racing i have seen.
but keep up the good work and thanks for the good reading thats been in here.
My name's Michael Ferner, I'm 34 and have been a regular poster at The Nostalgia Forum before things went wrong there. I was born and still live in Bitburg, Germany, right in the middle between the Nürburgring and Spa-Francorchamps. Must've been fate...
Racing cars and motorcycles fascinate me as long as I can remember, although strangely I don't like driving or riding at all - I cover barely 1,000 miles a year on the roads! I tried racing karts and it was big fun, until I had to lift my aching body (all 6 ft 7 in of it) out of the kart. It's too expensive, too.
My interest in racing focuses on road-racing bikes and single-seater cars; touring cars and even sports cars look too ordinary for my taste! In fact, it's probably only time restraints that keep me restricted that way, because I'm interested in absolutely every detail of single-seater racing. My main project these days is completing my list of race results from Grand Prix/Formula 1, Formula Libre, AAA/USAC/CART/IRL, Voiturette/Formula 2, Formula Nippon, IndyLights, Formulae Junior/3, Atlantic/Pacific, Opel/Vauxhall, Renault, Nissan, Ford etc. etc. etc. as well as many obscure local Formulae like Easter, Mondial, 750 etc. etc. etc. from 1895 to date.
I'm also interested in individual chassis histories of F1, FLibre, F2 and Champ cars. Although I'm not too fond of championships (I think they destroy racing, see Barrichello/Schumacher at Austria this year etc.), as a spin-off I have compiled many championship tables which bit by bit appear on my website at http://grand-prix-racing.freeyellow.com.
There you can find the humble beginnings of another big project of mine, which is called GPChart. It's a computer program I developed to monitor the progress of single-seater racing drivers by issuing a ranking week for week. It also provides food for thought about the best drivers of each period, because it tries to include race results of every major single-seater formula over the years, and not only F1. Sadly, it seems it will still take a few years to be completed - actually, it will probably never be complete since once I've got the post-war stuff sorted I'm going to get to grips with pre-WW2 racing.
Originally posted by Dan Friel
Dan Friel, aged 25 (youngest so far..)
I can beat that!
Garry Hobson, 15 years old (16 in October, time to injure myself on a 50cc scooter:) ).
Interested in all forms of Saloon racing, especially CSCC as my dad raced in it in 1990 with our family Volvo 122s.
I own a Volvo 340 (my first car for when I'm 17, its a Volvo - should be safe then:laugh: )and if I can afford it, then it might appear in the CSCC Pre-'90 series in the future.
Next!
Jeroen Brink 1 Jul 2001, 16:51 My name is the one you see. I am 33 years of age and I grew up in the vicinity of Zandvoort. I am dutch but lived abroad for quiet some time. I work in the field of marketing for consumer goods - a Nascar sponsor for that matter.
In Zandvoort I went to every race since the age of 7. My heroes are Gilles Villeneuve, Ayrton Senna and Ronnie Peterson. Due to Keir, Chris Amon is a strong contender to become one of my favourites of the past as well. ;) Beyond drivers I greatly admire the writing of Nigel Roebuck. I am especially interested in the seventies and eighties.
Like you, I'd hate to think that ten-tenths and Atlas were mutually exclusive Ray. In fact I found ten-tenths before Atlas (that's why I'm Vitesse2 there - someone beat me to the name!) and IIRC it was a link from here (possibly posted by you!) that took me there. I'm also a member of Trackforum, again from a hint by you. I'm not the only one who is a member of all three (Joe Fan and Lajolla come to mind as well) and there are many others who are members of two of the three: therein lies the strength of fora such as this - the overlap between them means that they are not introspective and eventually incestuous. The current thread on three-engined cars has been posted on all three and has developed in three very different ways, as it should with different panels of people looking at the question.
If there is no co-operation between these three (and other) fora then all could ultimately fail: "together we stand, divided we fall".
So Michael, I too hope you will continue to show your expertise on both fora and can reconcile your feelings about Ray's problems with Atlas (if that is what you mean).
BTW Ray, I post links INTO ten-tenths too!! From Atlas and Trackforum .... not sure about Wolf though ...:laugh: :laugh:
Where are you anyway Wolf? Did you get that book yet??
quintin cloud 2 Jul 2001, 10:12 hi all
I'm Quintin Cloud the webmaster of http://www.Formula1results.com and I'm from South Africa, age 26, special interests F1 and race results and ect.team. :)
Hans Etzrodt 2 Jul 2001, 11:20 I was born ten days after Dick Seaman won the German Grand Prix, however not at the Nürburgring but in a Berlin hospital. I am presently managing a medium-sized 16-floor condo building in the concrete jungle of Waikiki, about 15 minutes from the beach, walking Hawaiian style. I held many different jobs but spent most of my life as mechanic on cars, trucks and aircraft; thereafter Service and Parts Manager at car dealerships.
I saw my first race 1951 at the Nürburgring when Ascari defeated Fangio. My late father brought us teenage boys in a 1947 black VW and we watched as Paul Pietsch spun his Alfa out of the Nordkurve and disappeared down the embankment. I thought he was dead but he survived after only minor bloodletting. The incredible engine roar, the excitement, the sweet smell of burned ether and castor oil proved irresistible. I was addicted ever since, admittedly only as a spectator. It became very exciting for me when Mercedes started to go grand prix racing in 1954. Pictures of Moss and Fangio adorned my wall. Fangio was like a God to me; still is. He was so far above everybody else. Moss came closest. I also went to Monte Carlo to see the 1963 Monaco GP. I visited annually races at Kyalami while I lived in South Africa and Road America at Elkhard Lake while I lived in Chicago. I remember the continuous bloodletting in the 50’s, Ascari, Le Mans, Castellotti, de Portago, Musso and when Collins got killed, I felt devastated. Then Jean Behra, Harry Shell and von Trips got killed also, after which I ignored racing till 1963. Thereafter I must have had a better handle on myself but the killing went on and on until Jackie Stewart started the ball rolling and racing became much safer after he initiated his safety campaign.
Because not much detail was published about the grand prix races before 1950, I early on saved books I got as presents and even bought some used prewar stuff when I could afford it in the early fifties. Over the years, I have accumulated three overflowing bookcases. Old, contemporary magazines and newspapers are the real sources, I found out too late. As the Internet grows, we hopefully get easier access to the various libraries. Untangling the contradictions in GP racing history’s early years (1895-1949), a very time-consuming job, has now become my hobby, as tedious and frustrating it is at times.
For almost one year I have spent my days at The Nostalgia Forum, which has a larger audience than you find here at the Ten Tenth Historic Racing Forum. I found this place through Leif Snellman’s homepage at http://www.kolumbus.fi/leif.snellman/. Leif was kind enough to display my list of Grand Prix Winners 1895-1949 on his homepage. I am presently trying to complete the companion list of Mountain Climb Winners 1897-1949, which is already a six year ordeal. Hope to finish it this year.
Don't take yourself so seriously, Ray! ;)
What went wrong there? Hmm, I think it grows in size but shrinks in depth - continually! I still post there, however, but not as regularily as before.
Hello, I’ve been lurking and occasionally posting for a few weeks now so I thought it was only polite to introduce myself officially.
My name is Ursula Dickeson. I was born in the early 50s in Guildford, Surrey the daughter of a former TT motorcycle and sometime hillclimb racer, C.T. “Tommy” Atkins. I am fortunate enough to have a portfolio of his 1930s motor cycle racing clippings. My Dad continued to drive cars mostly driving Connaughts and his Mercedes 300SLR at hillclimbs.
My Dad stopped racing around 1956, and put his enthusiasm to work building and sponsoring racing cars until his death in 1965. My Dad owned a tool and die company in Tolworth, “High Efficiency Motors” and had his lockup garage in Chessington close to Jack Brabham, he also knew John Cooper quite well and I remember visiting the Cooper shop with Dad. Dad’s mechanics were Harry Pearce, Wally Wilmott, and Gordon Whitehead. Harry was a superb mechanic and had known Dad since his motorcycling days. In fact Dad sponsored Harry as a motorcycle racer until he talked him into giving it up and working with him to build their racing cars, which he did until 1964 when my Dad became ill. I have since discovered that they built cars for Bruce McLaren to enter in the Tasman series and that Harry went over with Bruce to take care of them. Other racers include Graham Hill, Roy Salvadori, Jack Fairman, Ian Burgess, and Chris Amon. The McLaren family has been wonderful, they have shared photos, articles, and letters with me which have given a unique insight into Dad’s collaboration with Bruce. He was always my favorite racer and my Dad thought the world of him. I have also found Neil Twyman, who has one of Dad’s early Coopers.
I was too young to get into the pits during races but I could manage it at practice sessions (often renting tracks such as Goodwood), unfortunately school and other things conspired to keep me away from most of the events. I went to Goodwood mostly and can remember the noise, the smell, and all the wonderful people so well, I can close my eyes and see it all. Dad bought a Cobra (without engine) from Carroll Shelby and I remember a session at Goodwood during which Carroll came over to talk to Dad, I was totally awestruck but unfortunately didn’t stick around to hear the conversation. I understand this car is still around and racing at historic events. Dad had a set of racing coveralls made for me just like Roy Salvadori’s, I still have them and they are a very treasured possession.
It was a gilded childhood but it ended in 1965. I lost all contact with racing, ended up moving to California in 1970, and cried my last tears over racing when I heard Bruce McLaren had died in June. I then lost interest in racing as it continued to evolve and change so far from the sport I remembered. I now live in Anchorage Alaska, where I have several friends who share my interest in vintage racing.
I started this research in January of 2001, and am amazed at the information I have found. I have dug out the books I inherited (Mike Hawthorn, Stirling Moss/Laurence Pomeroy (autographed no less), and Dennis Jenkinson, and have started reading them with a much greater understanding. I have also spent a small fortune on books, magazines, etc. and met a wonderful group of people who have provided me with a wealth of information, which I am still sorting through. The best part is finding articles, photographs, and even some video of my Dad.
I already have my tickets for Goodwood Revival in September, I will be meeting Dad’s mechanic, Harry Pearce for the weekend and look forward to reviving some treasured memories and making some new ones. I have joined the GRRC and so have paddock passes for all three days and will be camping nearby. I welcome any suggestions on attending the meeting.
Ursula
Simon,
Lurk around several forums although this is my favourite.
Brought up on racing by my dad, early memories of Crystal Palace, Brands and Silverstone seeing all the 1960-70's greats battle it out, our family TV was dedicated to racing, this incl Dad on the phone to the BBC quite often to enquire why the racing had been interupted to see a rain sodden cricket pitch, I thus learnt rude words at a very early age :)
My main interest is Le Mans, this year was number 21. The first was 1978. I have also done Spa 24 (good) and Daytona 24 twice (not so good).
I just love the 1960 - 70 F1 cars and the 1950 - 70 sports cars, early memories recall meeting several drivers that seemed pleased to see you albeit you were number 5,999 that day. Even peeing against the same wall as Jim Clark :cool: Today the only event that come close are Le Mans and Goodwod.
Simon
Hans Etzrodt 9 Jul 2001, 00:27 Originally posted by UAtkins
.....C.T. “Tommy” Atkins.....continued to drive cars mostly driving Connaughts and his Mercedes 300SLR at hillclimbs..... Ursula,
Thank you for sharing your entertaining experiences with us. I have a question in regards to the 300SLR driven by your father. Was that the 1957 type roadster, which was manufactured till 1962?
I guess I should pipe up now... :) I lurk here and this is my second port of call when I first log on, after the trackside forum. I rarely ever post here though as I know little about the history of the sport and don't wish to make a fool of myself (no more than usual anyway...)
I am fascinated to read the stories of those involved in the history of the sport though... so keep them posts coming...
Ursula, welcome along to you... stick around! Seems you were born just along the road from where I am right now... in fact I worked in Guildford for 12 years right up until this past Christmas :) I wish you well in your quest for information on your father :)
Murph...AKA...Robert Murphy
Age: 54
Location: Elizabeth, PA in the USA
Ocupation....retired High School teacher (History & Economics)
I am currently a photography student at the Art Institue of Pittsburgh
I have followed Grand Prix racing since the 1972 Canadian GP. Luckily I had a camera with me! I shot a lot of film from 1972 through 1986! One of my photogrphy professors has encouraged me to go through my 3000+ slides (mostly f1 with some Can Am thrown in), organize and clean them up, and start selling prints down the road. It will definately take some time....but it will be a labor of love. I'm planning on going to Lime Rock on July 27/28 for the Porsche Rennsport Reunion.....908's, 917, 917-10,962, 956, & 935's......of course I planned to go to Montreal for the GP this year, but......
My heroes are...Niki, Ronnie, Gilles, & "Our Nige". My favorite period was the '70's.....the reason is simple. The Canadian & USGP's were held at the end of the season...the teams were very relaxed...and security at Mosport Park & the Glen was...hmmmmm.....non-existent!!!!!! It was no problem to get into the pits and paddock areas on Fridays and blend in with the "real" photogrphers.....Saturday & Sunday were spent roaming around the circuit taking pics. Such simplier times....a good tent, some wine & cheese, lots of wood for the campfire.....as long as your car wasn't "sacrificed" to the "BOG" at the Glen....it was a great time!
Murph
Originally posted by Hans Etzrodt
I have a question in regards to the 300SLR driven by your father. Was that the 1957 type roadster, which was manufactured till 1962?
Hans, I believe my Dad had various 300SLs over the years, the most special one was a 1956 Lightweight (SLR 1) that he and Rob Walker (Rob 1) picked up in Stuttgart at the factory. There is a great article (written by Rob Walker) on their trip in the April 1956 MotorSport pages 196 and 197. Well worth reading, if you don't have this magazine I would be happy to send you a copy or I can type it up and post it separately (it's quite long). I am honestly not sure which one I remember riding in, as I said, he had several as he was an incorrigible car collector and always had to have the latest and greatest. I also have an article written by Bruce McLaren for the September 4, 1962 N.Z. Herald in which he describes driving one of the cars (SLE 42). This one had been sitting around Dad's shop for 7 years so that makes it a 1955. I would love to find out more about these Mercedes (where they are now) as the photos I have are of various cars with different license plates so it makes it impossible to know if it was all one car or several. All part of the mystery which I hope I can solve after my trip to Goodwood and long talks with Harry Pearce.
Craig, funny what a small world these forums are? I still visit friends in Guildford, in fact they live in the house opposite the one I grew up in. Will you be going to Goodwood in September?
Ursula
Me Tomislav 'Wolf' Petricevic. Don't post much (most of you know why ;)), but read very frequently (at least in this revered Forum). Nothing much to say else- 30, Croat, huuuuge Moss fan. :)
Peter Mallett 14 Jul 2001, 05:50 When I look at the biographies above I am proud to be a co-moderator of this forum.
My real name is as you see. I'm 46 years old but have the enthusiasm of a ten year old. I race a Group 1 Capri in the Classic Saloon Car Club GB Championship, although due to working commitments that is currently on hold.
I live in Buckinghamshire England but at present I'm located in a town called Nefteyugansk in Western Siberia.
I really don't recall how I got interested in the sport. I suspect it was when my dad bought me a Scalextric when I was five. Unlike some of you I'm not actually undertaking any project associated with the history of the sport. But I do hope that those of you who are, will keep us posted on progress.
Heroes? I try not to have any because they all deserve respect. However the achievements of drivers like Alan Jones, Graham and Damon Hill, Peterson, Mansell and their like appeal to me more than Gilles Villeneauve, Jim Clarke or others. Why? Because I believe that they are (were) less talented than their peers and so had to work that much harder to achieve.
I have favourites like anyone else and my list would include Sir Stirling (because he's a damn fine bloke), Gerry Marshall because he always has time to talk to me, Tony Brooks (a quiet gentleman), Peter Collins because he deserved so much more. I could go on.
Oh and sometimes I let my sense of humour get the better of me so look out.;)
David Babcock, 37
I too, tend to read here more than write, but ever since stumbling upon this forum, the appeal has been for a number of reasons. Firstly, I strongly believe in the importance of learning of the past to have a better appreciation of the present, whether it's motorsport in this case, or world events that have shaped where and how we live. Sure, it's a well used statement, but I really do enjoy learning more about racing History from all the tidbits you all have squirreled away, in heads or on paper (and speaking of tidbits, if I wasn't sure of the term "anoraks" before coming here, some of you have certainly cleared that up!)
It's worth mentioning how I appreciate the atmosphere of thoughtfulness that goes into the writing here, as well as looking at topics with more of a "bigger picture" point of view.
As for my beginnings of getting interested in motorsport, in Ottawa, during the 70's, I grew up for awhile across the street from a British Car garage, run by a friendly Brit who tolerated me hanging around and asking questions about all the great cars that came in and out. Bug-eyed Sprites, Austin Healy 3000's, MG TC +TD's, A's + B's, Spits, Jags- even the odd 120 or 150, plus my fav E-type, Land Rovers, Mini Coopers', some rare Lotus's etc. To you lot, these would be regular old cars you'd see all the time, but to me and my best friend, they were pretty darn exciting and rare, especially to hang about and listen to them being tuned by old Mr. Redshaw.
So yes, I have a fondness for 50's, 60's + 70's British street stuff, even if I'm pretty vague about model types and details. The late 70's also saw me and a lot of other Canadian teenagers getting hooked on F1, compliments of Villeneuve Sr. and so that was the beginning of that; although I have taken hiatus's here and there, with other interests taking up more of my time.
Well, that's that, always enjoy the reads here...
Marshal 18 Jul 2001, 13:59 Jon Dee, 29, based in Bristol, England. As my moniker suggests I Marshal at race meetings, and have a catholic interest in current and historic racing. Since a young age I have devoured books on the subject which I was fortunate to have access to, as my Dad has been a race fan since the early 50's.
I enjoy the intelligent discussion here which has broadened my knowledge of racing, and just occasionally I can add a tidbit of my own.
The Goodwood revival meeting is my favourite of the year, and the only one I marshal in a tie :)
woodyracing 18 Jul 2001, 14:49 Andy Woodvine, 26 from Lancashire England.
Originally I was into modified road (street) cars, and read magazines such as MaxPower etc, then my interest moved on to stage rallying and rally cars, then I became more interested in race cars and track racing.
After doing quite a bit of race training in (pre 87) Formula Ford, I desperately want to get into racing now.
I read and post in most of the ten-tenths forums.
Two of my favourite cars are the Sierra and Escort Cosworths - so I guess they are classed as historic cars now.
WoodyRacing :rotate:
Buonfornello 24 Jul 2001, 21:03 Hello all, I'm a resident of the United States, but I would prefer to keep my identity secret for reasons which will soon be apparent.I am a long-time fan of automobile racing of any type which includes left and right turns, but my real area of true passion and obsession is true road racing like the Mille Miglia, the Carrera Panamericana and of course, the Targa Florio.I would love to see a revival of these types of races on a grand scale despite the dangers inherent in it.My ultimate vision and the goal of my life is to see a road race conducted along the entire lenght of the United States' Blue Ridge Parkway and Skyline Drive.A distance of 1000miles of mountain roads along the crest of the Appalachian Mountains starting in Cherokee North Carolina and ending at Front Royal Virginia.For over 15 years now I have worked tirelessly within the system, through Republican and Democratic administrations with the National Park Service, US Forestry Commission and state authorities to bring my vision to reality.Sadly, all of my efforts have been unavailing and I now find myself turning to nefarious methods in order to accomplish my goal.I have reached the conclusion that no Constitutionally elected US government would ever allow the race that I propose to take place which leaves my only option the violent overthrow of the US government and its replacement with a Mussolini-style fascist dictatorship to be headed by the renegade former Secretary of the Interior James ("trees cause pollution") Watt.I am not a Fascist.If my plans succeed, please forgive me the genocide and oppression it will entail, but eggs have to be broken, etc.
Gotta say more than that, Sir.
Or I shall assume that you are in fact Brock Yates.
Felix Muelas 24 Jul 2001, 22:53 Originally posted by Buonfornello
...my only option the violent overthrow of the US government and its replacement with a Mussolini-style fascist dictatorship...----------:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Originally posted by Buonfornello
I am not a Fascist.--------:eek:
Originally posted by Buonfornello
If my plans succeed, please forgive me the genocide and oppression it will entail, but eggs have to be broken, etc.
Of the 21 words that are quoted in the sentence, I think I can entirely suscribe one :etc.
Now, as for the eggs, I want to think that I don´t know what you mean :laugh:
Un abrazo :p
Felix
Buonfornello 24 Jul 2001, 23:46 Surely to be misunderstood is the inevitable lot of the true revolutionary...but you will thank me one day, Felix.
What a quandary is presented by our host, Tim.On the one hand, I could reveal my true identity, thereby risking prosecution on charges of Sedition and Treason, or on the other hand I could allow myself "Buonfornello" to be associated in the minds of readers with the image of Brock Yates?...Truly a difficult decision...What would the Scarlet Pimpernel do?...I shall have to think it over.
Originally posted by Buonfornello
Surely to be misunderstood is the inevitable lot of the true revolutionary...
:( :(
Well, you're either a dangerous lunatic or a failed comedian, but please understand that the promotion of fascism here in Europe makes many of us feel very sad indeed.
I suggest you take your sick ideas back up into the Appalachians and stay there.
In the meantime I, for one, will ignore your posts.
Buonfornello 25 Jul 2001, 01:56 ...so much for whimsy..!
Easy, Kpy.
I appreciate and understand your deeply held feelings, your sense of history and your most commendable vigilance, but please bear in mind that what people choose to say on this forum may not necessarily read the same way in one culture as in another.
What is a source of bitter memory on one continent can easily assume much lesser proportions thousands of miles away.
Buonfornello, welcome to our forum. Be ye the Pimpernel or not, your secret may remain secret for as long as you wish. And I promise I'll try not to mention Brock Yates.
Bother! Done it again.
Originally posted by TimD
Easy, Kpy.
I appreciate and understand your deeply held feelings, your sense of history and your most commendable vigilance, but please bear in mind that what people choose to say on this forum may not necessarily read the same way in one culture as in another.
What is a source of bitter memory on one continent can easily assume much lesser proportions thousands of miles away.
Tim -
OK I accept the failed comedian theory.
But my late father-in-law spent the last thirty five years of his life unable to walk without assistance, and in constant pain and mental anguish as a direct result of what was done to him by Mussolini's thugs. He was by no means alone. I'm hardly likely to want to rub shoulders with someone advocating fascism. I find it deeply offensive.
I take it you use the word culture in it's broadest sense.
Peter Mallett 25 Jul 2001, 07:32 Kpy & Buonfornello,
I've just written the following words to another poster. "Be careful what you present because you may be misunderstood".
It holds true for all of us and whilst I agree with Tim, I first read the post with trepidation. However I balanced that with the other posts by Buonfornello which show the the person is interested in the threads on this forum so I considered the post in a humorous light.
However your personal feelings are important and I think we are all now aware of the importance of being careful whilst having some fun as well. Perhaps you could both discuss this with the "pm" facility?
It's a good reminder to us all.;)
And now, back to the thread.
Corktree 4 Sep 2001, 06:25 I don't get here much, but I do lurk from time to time to see how things are going and to see all the familar "faces."
Should there ever be a quiz, the Nostalgia Forum is a essentially a direct result of wanting to do something like this forum. We are fortunate to have these two fora and a few others (such as the Racing History group which is now on Yahoo) rather than zero -- which is something that is always a possibility.
Like here, things are okay at the NF. Being "elitist" is never very popular it seems.....
Ciao.
The Lone Ranger ;)
I think, its time to return to the original intention of the thread that is to let us all know about the various backgrounds and special interests of each other as far as MOTORSPORT and its history is concerned...
My name is Udo Klinkel and I'm still a rookie to Atlas and ten-tenths forum, as I discovered it only a few days ago through a hint of Ray Bell.
Today I'm living in a little village near Landshut in Bavaria, but my motor racing story began in 1964, when my parents decided to move from the Ruhr area to the Eifel mountains...Guess, where?
The Nürburgring was just 10 KM away, I never heard about motor racing before, but a neighbour of us came around one Saturday afternoon and asked my father if we were interested in watching the 1000 KM race?
So it all started. I saw John Surtees racing his Ferrari at the head of this huge field of sportscars, and became a fan of this man. I followed his career very closely, met him very often at the 'Ring, collected a lot of autographs and made many photos with my small camera. I witnessed Graham Hill, Jochen Rindt and the others throughing snowballs at each other in the old Nürburgring paddock, when the Eifel-weather went mad again during practice days of the Eifelrennen. I saw John Surtees testing a BMW F2 round the Südschleife in 1967 along with his Honda F1 in preparation for the 67 German GP, witnessed Porsche test with the first ever 917, was there when Gerhard Mitter died in practice for the 69 GP. And, of course saw Jackie Stewart sailing through the rain and fog in 1968...
Many more stories are to be told here.
In 1977 I joined Lufthansa German Airlines and the motor racing time was over... Working at Berlin, Düsseldorf or Frankfurt, I lost contact with watching motor races from the track side or from the pits, although I always followed Formula 1 on TV. My archive of photos, autographs, magazins and books was still there, but I did not touch it for almost 20 years! The internet changed it all and in 1999 I went to Le Mans and there it was again. I discovered my old archive again, looked at it and was very pleased to see what treasures it contained... With the help of my girl friend Silvie I even managed to create my own still amateurish web-site: www.motorsportphotos.de. Unfortunately I do not have the time to update it in shorter intervals, but I promise, there will be more photos and stories soon. I'm now busy with adding more race results to my large collection with the goal to get it as complete as possible, starting with the early days of motor racing up to todays races. Additionally I do some reporting and photographing for Harald Gallinis www.gt-eins.de, which brings me back to the tracks and behind the scenes. I have been to the Most ELMS race recently where I met Martin again (second time - he was at the Nürburgring 1000 KM in 2000), who did such a fantastic job with his sportscar results site.
So there will be some more threads from me going into detail of the one or other race or results and I hope to add more pieces to the big puzzle with the help of all of you.
paulzinho 5 Sep 2001, 15:49 Paul Davey age 17
My interests lie in wanting to watch old F1 races... i'd like to see some from the 60s and 70s in particular.
I am also interested in th history of Le Mans.
Mycurrent project is researching my Dads (Tim Lee-Davey) results from his racing career.
My racing hero was Ayrton Senna.
Hi, my name's Andrew Frampton, and I am a reporter and photographer on the Club and National Racing Scene, working from home in Hampshire. Although only 17, I do have a couple of years of experience, but am learning along the way; my first race meeting was in August 1995, and it has progressed from there. As well as my interest in Club racing of today (Saloons especially), I enjoy to read about Classic and Historic races, and make a point to get to CSCC meetings at least a couple of times each season. Although I am only an occasional visitor to this section, and spend most of my time in National and Club Racing, I find threds about Saloon racing from the 60s onwards most interesting. Am afraid I cannot add to much to most of the posts, but please keep up the good work guys and gals, (although there only seems to be guys here!!).
Andrew
AndyF: try reading the post above by UAtkins again - I'm sure Ursula would be rather miffed to discover you think she's a bloke!
Sorry about that Ursula:eek: , maybe I should rephrase. 'Almost all the posters on this topic are male'...;)
Diabando 6 Sep 2001, 01:50 Well...maybe one more female...but I rarely post!
I lurk (like Craig!), read and learn...this is where I am most amazed by things I would never have known. Like Larry Perkins helping out with Lauder.
Keep it up - I love this place :)
Udo
Dont sell your site to short.its well done
mickj
Steve Watkins 6 Sep 2001, 07:11 Steve Watkins, age 43
I live in Melbourne, Australia and drive past the Albert Park circuit each day to and from work.
My main interest is Formula One, which began late in 1969 when I bought a copy of Australian Motor Sport which had a report of the Italian Grand Prix.
By the mid 70's I was getting Motor Sport and Autosport and this broadened my areas of interest to most categories.
Actual racing experience has been limited to being part of a pit crew for an AUSCAR Superspeedway team about ten years ago (at the Calder Thunderdome and to the first two Gold Coast Indy races)
I am currently in the process of building a database for the WC results but progress is very slow due to other commitments. With all the results that are on the web I am wondering whether to continue this project.
I continue to watch each Grand Prix and CART race (videotaped and watched at a more suitable time). In fact since the Channel 9 started showing the races in 1981 I have missed only two.
I have been lurking around The Nostalgia Forum for about a year (with the very occassional post) and since checking here just recently have seen some very familiar names from there.
I am amazed at the detail some of the posters know about the subjects raised here and at TNF.
Steve Watkins
I'm Scott Russell, I live in Brisbane, Australia, and I'm 15 years old. Being that age, you probably think I am not into historic racing, but you are far from the truth.
I haven't posted a huge amount on the historic forums, but I love anything from the old days of racing, and appreciate the days when it was man and machine racing wheel to wheel, none of this pitstops and strategy rubbish.
My favourite car? I will never forget the day out at Lakeside last year when Kevin Bartlett was demonstrating the Ford GT40....wow, amazing. The sound was amazing, the car beautiful.
I sometimes wish I had a time machine so I could go back and see these beautiful machines race...
Barry Boor 14 Sep 2001, 00:30 I really ought to spend more time over here. The topics look more interesting than those currently in vogue on another popular forum.
Did I really say that? Well hush my mouth!
Anyway, apologies to those who have read all this before on the 'other' forum:
I am who my user name says I am. I am 53, and a Cockney Londoner, now living and teaching in North West Wales-by-the-sea.
I follow most forms of international motor sport, but still feel that F1 is the pinnacle thereof. Even if it frustrates me more and more as the years go by.
I used to call myself Dan Gurney's #1 British fan, but having seen the support there is for the Great Man, I suppose I should now say, one of his greatest British fans. I also have great respect and affection for Jim Clark, Tony Brooks and of course, dear old Stirling.
I build and race slot-cars, currently working on a series based around the mid-1950's; details of same can be seen at
http://www.bboor.freeserve.co.uk/Website
I also collect diecast models of historic single seaters.
I had a brief flirtation with racing back in the early 1970's, being a member of the lunatic crew who built and attempted to race the Connew F1 car. Peter Connew is my cousin.
Although I now live nearly 300 miles away from Peter, I am gradually trying to persuade him that he MUST rebuild the old girl before she and he get too old. Anyone got a spare DFV? It doesn't have to work!!!!
Racer.Demon 19 Sep 2001, 11:21 Mattijs Diepraam from the Netherlands reporting for duty. I am about to turn 33 and am married to this great girl that is the mother of my 3-year-old kid (who is already doing a great job in recognizing GP cars, bikes and road cars!).
During office hours I usually work as a writer and business journalist but when deadlines aren't pressing me I take some time to post to TNF (and now here as well) and do some work on the websites I maintain, which are http://8w.forix.com (8W hosted by Forix), http://www.racer.demon.nl/6thgear (6th Gear) and http://www.racer.demon.nl/mrh (Reference Directory of Motor Racing History Sources on the Web).
I have probably taken too much time before I decided to sign up here but I see that I won't have any regrets. I won't be a prolific poster - my number of posts at TNF has also dropped dramatically, due to sheer lack of time - but I am sure I will enjoy reading many of the discussions started at this place.
Right, carry on...
quintin cloud 19 Sep 2001, 12:40 Welcome Racer.Demon :rotate:
Vitesse 19 Sep 2001, 15:39 And about time too! Welcome Mattijs, what took you so long?:laugh:
Hello,
I'm lloyd Lewis, 51, married and have a 12 year old son.
For most of the 1970s I was a mechanic for various UK racing teams, mostly group 1 saloons but with some excursions into Formula Ford, Formula Vee, a Lola T212 and some rallying. I had a bad hair day in 78, walked away from the sport and never went back.
I have not really followed motorsport much since then apart from F1, but since I discovered this forum the memories are coming back.
I was really sorry to read about Gerry Marshall's illness and wish him a speedy recovery.Even though he was usually 'the opposition', I have many fond memories (most not repeatable here) of Gerry and two of our drivers, Tony Lanfranchi and Barry Williams.
Although most forms of motorsport interest me, I particularly like the racing sportscars of the late 50s and 60s, as well as the grassroots formulas such as Formula 750, clubmans etc.
Keep up the good work
Lloyd
Hello, I'm Paul Mackness from Hampshire, born about the time Fangio had his first GP as a works Ferrari driver (that old? Shame!).
I've only just discovered this site today. My earliest memory is seeing Moss in a blue Cooper rounding Woodcote at Silverstone, which must have been '60 or '61. I became a fan of Graham Hill and BRM in 1962, especially after being driven round Zandvoort not long after his first GP win there, while my father was a fan of Jim Clark and Lotus.
I've always liked all types of racing, but especially F1 and Le Mans, and have been a big fan of Historic racing since the first Silverstone Festival in 1990 (probably getting old and nostalgic!).
Coys always used to be the highlight of my year, and then the Goodwood Festival and Revival, and I also go to as many HSCC meetings as possible and some VSCC races and hillclimbs.
I was very interested in the Forum about the Kincraft as I would like to know more about Jack Pearce who built it. I know from various articles by Doug Nye and others in old mags that he was a demon welder at Cooper, raced himself, ran J. A. Pearce Engineering making Magna alloy wheels, traded in racing-cars and parts thereof, and built the Cooper-Ferrari F1 in 1966 (which I saw at the 1967 RoC at Brands) and the Pearce-Martin V8's which never raced. Robin Darlington who drove the Kincraft was also down to drive the F1 Pearce, but the only man who I believe actually drove it was Chris Lawrence of Lawrencetune/Deep Sanderson fame and now engineer at Morgans. Chris also had further involvement in the Martin 3.0l V8 through the prototypes of the Monica roadcar built by Jean Testevin, and sold the Martin engines and used one in a Deep Sanderson sports-prototype at the 1969 Nurburgring 1000k (does anyone have any pics of this?)
I'd very much like to hear from anyone who has more information about the above, and any other obscure 1960's F1's such as the 1963 Scirroco, the 1967 Lucas-Martin 3.0l (converted F2 Lotus 35 by Charles Lucas' Titan concern),and the 1968 Parnell-BRM which may or may not have been an incomplete conversion of a Lotus 25/33.
paulzinho 5 Dec 2002, 00:50 Welcome aboard macca, you seem to have quite a bit of knowledge there like many of our memebers here!
Hope we see more of you and listen to the aray of interesting stories and memories that you must hold!
ss_collins 5 Dec 2002, 01:29 I'm SS Collins - 21 clubman nutter - I do all sorts of events all over the south! I've always been interested in motoring history have a fair book collection to prove it! If anyone has any information on Clans or McCoys please let me know, especially McCoys - no thought not.
66stang (real name Jeff) from Texas. Mostly linger, but can't tell you how much I enjoy this site. I have a 66 Mustang Opentrack car that keeps me broke and occupied most of the time.
I love vintage (60s & 70s) roadracing sedans and GT cars...from Mini Coopers to Cobras. Really like the Aussie Mustang action by Geoghagen, Jane, Moffet, et al in the 60s also. I dream of my wife and I attending the vintage races at Goodwood one day!
Keep the vintage photos coming!
ps. Brock, I'm with you if you limit the cross country race to vintage cars. I'm not overthrowing anyone for the right of some ground effect Audi to trounce the field.
Su Amigo/Jeff
zefarelly 5 Dec 2002, 12:05 Im Joe, 31, and I love MK1 Cortinas . . .I have a road car, Im trying very slowly to build a GT to race, and I help out with a lotus which does race. so I guess historic saloons is my thing.
Ive just bought a TVR Vixen as well . . . .well . . .I thought why not!
hello macca,
here the link to the Lawrence Deep Sanderson 302 with the Martin engine:
http://www.motorracingretro.com/60sport/sport69/retro69adac/retro69adac17.htm
I did see it in 1969 at the 1000km race, took several pictures of it and it´s once in my super 8 movie, going round the banked karussell-bend.
Some weeks later I met it again in the 1000km at Spa. I filmed it again, when it was pushed in position at the starting grid.
klaus
Hello! David Marshall from South Cave (yes, there are still cavemen in Yorkshire), born 1945 so old enough to know better.
Interested in motor racing from boarding school days, when our English master (Mr. Fable!) used to take lucky ones to Mallory Park - school was in Nottinghamshire. He had an old Opel in Air Force colours (but I can't for the life of me remember why), very rare in those days and I remember once when one came the other way they saluted each other!
My first hero was Wolfgang von Trips because he was so glamorous to an impressionable youngster. I was heartbroken when he died. Later heros include the usual - Moss, Clark, Rindt. And, like many others on this site, Dan Gurney. He could drive anything, and if he had tinkered less he would have won even more times! I will always remember the first Goodwood Festival of Speed I went to, because almost the first person I saw when I arrived in the paddock was Dan, who was reunited with his F1 Eagle for the weekend. I asked him to autograph the inside of Denis Jenkinson's Sports Car Racing book, and he showed real interest in the book looking through it from front to back and recounting various anecdotes which the photos reminded him of - also signing his autograph whenever a page with his photo appeared! All this for a four-eyed geek he hadn't seen before. A real Gent.
Back to the biog - interested in photography, so took lots of photos during the time I used to go to races. These were forgotten about until I discovered this forum, but I've resurrected them and scanned a few for various threads recently.
Main interests now are Can-Am 66-74, Carrera Panamericana 50-54, Scarabs, Cunninghams, but will watch anything that races (and preferably overtakes and is overtaken). Also have a collection of models (but many more are still in kit form awaiting the time...!)I have the above two race series as my main modelling themes, and have spent many a happy hour surfing the internet for sites with contemporary photos, and have also met some good friends through having the same racing/model interests.
Message to Macca about his post above - the Pearce-Martin F1 cars never actually raced. Two were completed and were taken to Silverstone for the International Trophy on 29th April '67, but even before practice the transporter caught fire and was gutted. Both cars were completely destroyed together with the earlier Cooper-Ferrari. I have a photo of the remains which I can post but it's not a pretty sight.
I was also at Mallory the day after Boxing Day in '66 (brrrr!) and saw Roy Pike drive the Charles Lucas Lotus 35-Martin. This I suppose was the forerunner of what was intended to be the F1 car. Again I have a photo, but this thread is probably not the place for it. Where do you want me to stick it TimD?!
I remember most of the names/cars mentioned above and have pics of many of them. Do you remember Peter Hawthorne who drove an imacculate Anglia (pale metallic blue I think) with a 2.5 litre Tasman engine? He then had a dark red one entered by Castle Service Station Racing and "registered" CSSR 1. Both very successful in club racing at the time.
I'm rambling, and nurse says it's time for bed (oo er!).
Forgot to mention - the name Kincraft above sent me back to the photo albums and I have posted some pics on the Kincraft thread.
Okay, Nursie, lead on...
Originally posted by Hobson
I can beat that!
Hobson, 15 years old (16 in October, time to injure myself on a 50cc scooter:) ).
Interested in all forms of Saloon racing, especially CSCC as my dad raced in it in 1990 with our family Volvo 122s.
I own a Volvo 340 (my first car for when I'm 17, its a Volvo - should be safe then:laugh: )and if I can afford it, then it might appear in the CSCC Pre-'90 series in the future.
Next!
Just to show things change, I'm now 17, the 340's long gone and I've now got the Best-of-British, and E-reg MG Maestro.The Pre-'90 plan hasn't gone though.
allez_jacques 6 Dec 2002, 09:49 Okay, my turn.
My name is Seine Seinen (yes, really...) and I live in Groningen in the Netherlands. I am a software engineer, 37 years old, married and have two children. I have been a Formula 1 fan from my 15th (the year Alan Jones became world champ) and still are. My oldest son (6 years old) is rapidly becoming a racing enthousiast as well.
I consider myself an "armchair enthousiast" of racing. I have no real racing experience and I doubt I will ever get some. My interest in the pre-80s history of Formula 1 was raised when I tried the PC game "Grand Prix Legends".
Lately I have become interested in other forms of racing as well, especially WRC rallying.
Fogelhund 6 Dec 2002, 16:20 Not too many North Americans in this portion of the website. Most of my experience in racing is as a result of my Father's involvement in the sport.
Dad was the National Director of the Canadian arm of the FIA in the Seventies, so I spent most weekends at the track throughout this time.
After this, he got into photography, and has been doing Vintage and Historic Photography since 82', having done work for a number of magazines, including Vintage Motorsport and Victory Lane, as well as being the official photographer for HSR and SVRA.
I helped him get the photog business going at first, and have done quite a bit of work with T&S for both HSR and SVRA, though not so much recently now that the young family is keeping me occupied.
Well Allez_ it's a good thing that you don't live in Paris, near the banks of the ..........
all jokes aside, hope that you and Fogel enjoy hanging around here. I too am pretty much an armchair enthousiast, and also have a young family, but this place is fun to share ideas about racing or even bad jokes.
Fogel-neat background, must have been fun as hell as a kid, not to mention the photo side of it. I'm not around much in Historics, but I can probably say for everyone that we would be interested in seeing some photo work that your family has done.
djb
John Reeves 8 Dec 2002, 14:11 OK now Stay awake. My name is John Reeves from Kent and I am 53 years young. I have been a petrol head my entire life. I am lucky my wife and daughter are very tolerant and put up with all my car stuff. I love the whole car history thing and have been lucky to have been involved in motor sport at a minor level most of my adult life. I was lucky enough to do some pit work for Mike Loveday's racing E'Type in the 60's which has got to be the absolute highlight. Living and socialising near to Brands Hatch has meant I have been able to spend many very happy times there especially in the past, meeting up at a pub in Chislehurst with other friends in my MGB and paying a very small sum of money to use the track at Brands. This was always a Thursday evening spectacular. Happy Days. The highlight of my year now must be the Goodwood Festival. I am now driving a warmed up family saloon, which gives the boy racers a few surprises. I absolutely love this forum and am a daily visitor to this site and thoroughly enjoy both the stories and the pictures and hope to continue to do this for a very long time to come.
John
allez_jacques 9 Dec 2002, 09:49 Well, djb, actually, I have been to Paris in 1993 on my honeymoon. And two years before I was in Rouen and the first thing I did there was having my picture taken on a bridge over the you-know-what river...
A real shame that at that time I knew so little of racing history. If I'll ever come back there I will definitely look for the remains of the famous Rouen racing track.
To Dave Marshall:
Thanks for the mention of the Pearce-Martins and the Kincraft. I have a picture of the burnt-out Pearce transporter at Silverstone in 1967 from an article by Doug Nye in his Skullduggery column in Classic & Sportscar magazine from years ago, also I seem to remember another pic of the ashes in a 1967 magazine. Doug Nye also did an article about Ted Martin (with a couple of pics of Graham Lawrence testing the Pearce-Martin at Brands) in Motor Racing mag in early 1967. I have heard a libellous rumour about that fire which I won't repeat unless anyone can say whether Jack Pearce is still alive or not.
I have a pic of Roy Pike in the Lotus 35-Martin at Mallory on Boxing Day 1966 that I bought from a dealer and also a couple of pics of Piers Courage practising for the 1967 Race of Champions (non-started to to engine problem while warming up on raceday). That Lotus, also known as a Lucas-Martin, was said to have been destroyed by Courage in a testing crash at Snetterton soon after; yet it was advertised for sale by J. A. Pearce in an advert in Autosport in early 1968! If anyone knows more, please say.
Cheers for now, and love to nursie! (oo-er Missus)
to Dave M
Forgot to say, please post your pic of the Lotus-Martin V8 at Mallory on the Kincraft thread if that's OK - I think the link is not too tenuous!
Thanks.
Just occurred to me that I've been posting here for quite some time now, but never formally introduced myself.
My name's Chris Glaister, from Carlisle, but have lived in Cambridge for the last 13 years (although now back in Carlisle for a bit). I've been interested in motorsport for longer than I can remember. This was largely sparked by my dad, Ed, who competed in stage and road rallies round the Cumbria and southern Scotland region since about 1950, with some success at club level. He often had my uncle (Stan) as navigator, while my mum also competed for quite sometime, including managing to roll a Cooper S while she was pregnant with me. My other Uncle, Mike, was European Formula Junior champion (historic) a couple of times in the early 80's, and also owned a BT2, BT8, Lotus 22, a Shadow DN9, and an ex-Graham Hill BRM amongst others.
This sparked by Dad's interest in Formula Junior, and he bought and completely rebuilt the FJ Yimkin (hence my username), and took it to 2nd in the UK championship in 1984. We've also had a Deep Sanderson FJ, the ex Mike Spence Emeryson FJ, Mike Spence's Emeryson F1, PDS (monoposto/toyota F3) and Lola T202 FF. At the moment we have a Centaur FF, Centaur Monoposto and Gemini FJ (all in bits), and my baby, our 1958 Ford 100E. This was one of Dad's rally cars which he's owned for more than 30 years - I used to get taken to school hanging onto the roll cage....
Dad and I race this in the HRSR series (which includes Simon Drabble and Zefarelly who also post here) and in the Top Hat and Oldies but Goldies Endurance Series. In the HRSR we do alternate races, while we share the car in the double driver races. We've been lucky enough to be invited to Goodwood twice, in '98 and '02, finishing 5th overall this year. Tony Lanfranchi shared with my Dad in this race, but it was still great fun for me! It was really nice to meet some 10/10thers there e.g. TimD, just sorry I was a bit too busy to have a proper chat.
Unlike (suprisingly) quite a few historic racers, I love the whole thing and stay for the whole meeting, and have a huge interest in the history of it all, my hero being Jim Clark. My realistic ambition is to do single seaters in the near future, my unrealistic ambition is to buy back my Dad's Yimkin and my Uncle's Mallock U2! Or a Chevron B16 :D
I've tried to attach a pic of the 100E which probably won't work :rotate:
Well, I'm shocked. As you can see, I've just discovered this site and topic after topic reveal cars and memories that I naturally cherish.
I'm very pleased to read of everyone's enthusiasms here too, and privileged to be amongst it.
I only discovered this historic/hysterical section but I'm sure I'll be back for some more of these gems from all of you.
Ok, my name is John Morrison, 54, from Milton Keynes but don't hold that ... etc. My father introduced me to racing at Goodwood late fifties and sixties. I started competing in '67 and had a good second place at Silverstone a few weeks back in a GT3. I'm afraid I haven't been able to put it down all these years and have really enjoyed an incredible time. It's a huge catalogue of cars and races in most catagories except F1. Ultimately, I was racing for fun (I've never been able own any race car) and too busy working-for-a-living to be able to make an impression on big works teams. Having said that, I have driven some wonderful cars throughout UK & Europe and a bit of the States. Make that Riverside, Daytona, Watkins Glen, Mid Ohio, Road America and a few other great places.
Most precious memories include F3 and FSuperVW '60 & '70s (including 10 races on the old Nurburgring), Touring cars (for Walkinshaw for three seasons) and Sports cars (Thundersports and a class win at the Daytona 24 Hours), more recently Porsches, GT3, 2 and 1 (made British GT champion in '97). Thankfully I made the grade sufficiently to become a BRDC member, one of my most precious possessions of course.
I've been most fortunate and am extremely indebted to them, to have had people allow me to drive their super cars, which I did with reasonable care - another reason why I think I didn't make the grade! But I still enjoy it immensly and hopefully there's a few more seasons still to apply for that licence.
Anyway, it's a joy as I said to come on the site and share your enthusiasms. I look forward to reading more. Now, can someone please tell me where the spell checker is?
Welcome John,I remember you in the red Tecno F3 around 1968,have a photo somewhere..
Hi Rob29
It was a super little car. We just didn't know enough of what to do to make it go faster. It spread me like jam down the road at Brands GP circuit Motor Show meeting in 68. I went upside down after trying to avoid Charles Carling at Westfield. Ended up with a lot of skin missing and lying in petrol and v. hot water pinned under the car! The morphine made me very giggly. Took them 12 mins to get me out.
The following year the car was metallic blue and yellow rebuilt by Robib Searle in Worthing but we'd no more money so we had a couple of races and then it had to go.
PS I love doing on the streets - did Birmingham twice, once in Thundersports once in Ferguson's 911SC.
Roger H 22 Dec 2002, 20:52 Hello my name is Roger Hurst and I've been lucky to be around racing cars since the early 60's. Usual things, started in Minis, then a couple of Diva GT cars. Then Formula Three, when you could still run a car out of your back pocket. My company built the Lenham GT Racing cars, a few FFords, F100, F3 cars. Since that all wound down I've run odd bods and moved into dealing in the bits and bobs and obscure racing cars.
Thats enough about me I think.
Roger - I'm no longer surprised at your recall. I remember the Lenham company and read the adverts over the years. Great to make contact. Do I remember you at Lydden Hill?
Roger H 22 Dec 2002, 23:18 John- Yes Lydden. Ah those were the days. A whole afternoons testing for a fiver. Late entries on the morning of the event for races. Where did it all go wrong?
les walmsley 26 Dec 2002, 11:20 Hi there it would be great if someone could put some photos of historic touring cars up. As soon as i work out how to do it i will also. Hope to see some soon.
hello Roger,
nice to meet such racing legends here in the forum. I remember Your adverts and the Lenham very well (1968(?) in Motorsport magazine), I have seen this car live at the Ring this year, driven by David Methley, beating the Chevrons B8. About 12 years ago I was at your home, and my friends and I remember very well the areal, filled with cars (Imps) and racing items . Your store in the backyard was a collection to get enthusiastic. You will not remember me, for I only bought a Cosworth rocker cover and asked you about a 12-valve Martin head.
Thanks Klaus. Things havn't changed much here, just the Imp has gone!!! Does anyone have picturs of David Methley in his Lenham at the Ring?
Happy New Year to you.
allenbrown 1 Jan 2003, 23:52 Roger
Good to see you here. I notice that your all-to-brief biography didn't mention the legendary caves at all. Probably best not to - they be far too fascinating to people here!.
Allen
neilwaynesmith 2 Jan 2003, 19:06 Neil Smith, Startline/Incident Marshal.
Fanatical Chevron Addict, can often be seen drooling around the pits with Chevron badge on cap and Chevron badges sewn to upper sleeves of overalls.
Would like to commend the good folk who raced in the 'Top Hat' championships in 2002 for the best races I have seen at Donington in many-a-while. More please for 2003.
I am 34, but occasionally wish I was about 20 years older :confused: That way I could have been marshalling events when these cars were new! :rolleyes:
hello Roger,
here it is,
I think You enjoy to see your baby and hope you´ll meet it anywhere , to have a look on it.
By the way, it had a Cosworth FVA engine and was terrible fast, especially in the wet, and all the Chevrons looked rather sad in comparison, but I think Methley is a good man behind this steering-wheel, as he was in his Marcos.
Klaus
paul-collins 6 Jan 2003, 20:03 I'm 36, born about an hour away from Mosport (I'm now an hour away on the other side), and my father introduced me to racing at an early age. The first race of consequence I attended was the '71 Canadian GP when I got to see JYS and Ronnie Peterson slug it out in the rain. I only got to see JYS race twice more in F1, then he retired, having served to hook me on speed.
My favourite drivers after JYS have been James Hunt, Gilles, Jackie Oliver, George Follmer and anyone else who I saw in Can-Am, IckxandBell, Mario Andretti, anyone named Brabham, anyone who drove a blue Tyrrell, and Ron Fellows.
I'm more interested in History than in Historic Racing. I've never been to a vintage event (although I'm going to try to get out this year to Mosport's event). If the turnout is good, I'll be back.
My interest has largely mirrored what is available at Mosport, but has been expanding as I gain access to other racing via TV. Who knew the SCCA Runoffs would be so entertaining? (Well, I guess a lot of you did - but my Christmas day was a revelation!) F1, Group 7, Formula 5000, USAC (which I followed to Toronto as CART), and now ALMS / Le Mans are what captivate me now.
As I get older, my view of racing widens both in type and in time. My current favourite, ALMS, provides me with a window on the world of sportscars, which to me is still the pinnacle of racing, as it's all about the cars. And I've discovered that there's no shortage of information on the history of it, and it all seems to link back to that old city an hour south of Chartres. So I'll go and see the cars there next year.
Hello Klaus, Super Picture. Yes David Methley is very quick.
Thankyou
Roger
Andrew Kitson 15 Jan 2003, 00:50 I have just realised that although I have been posting here for a few months now, I have not actually said 'Hi!"
So to keep TimD happy I am doing just that.
I just love this historic forum - so many memories come flooding back.
You may have seen some of the racing paintings that I have posted. I am a professional Motorsports artist and have been doing this for 20 years now, although I have done the odd spell in Germany producing cut-away and exploded drawings for the car industry over there. I was trained to produce these on computer with various computer graphics programmes but it is the 'creating artwork by hand' that is my thing. A bit old school in that respect.
I am 43 and born in Cambridge. My father was a mechanic in club racing, I spent most weekends at the circuits with him, hence my lifelong interest. I was told that the first meeting I attended was as a 6 month old baby at Brands on boxing day 1959 - the first time Jim Clark raced a single seater was at this meeting. Pity I can't remember!
The first car I remember my father working on was a Lotus Elan in 1965 then a Galaxie 500 - both raced by woman racer Jacquie Bond -Smith. Later he was spannering on Special Saloon Ford Anglia's through to Formula Ford / F3 etc for Stan Matthews. The last car he worked on before returning to a normal life was the ex Doug Niven 5.7 Boss Capri of Nicholas Wattiez in 1976.
I knew Nick in 73/74 and was 'gofer' on his F5000 team. In 1977, I started college to train as a Technical Illustrator, but weekends were spent at Royale Racing - helping out Trevor Van Rooyen and Kenny Acheson. At this time I got to know so many people in FF/F3 that are involved in higher things now. Folks such as Eddie Jordan, Derek Daly, David Kennedy, David Sears, John Village, John Booth, Trevor Carlin - he was gofer at PRS!
I started to do my paintings as a hobby at first while at college, but contacts through my father and other racing folk I had known started to become clients. Several World Champions have commissioned my work since, including the late great Ayrton Senna. Ferrari and other F1 teams are also customers.
However, historic racing, especially the 60s/70s is my love and I relish the chance to paint cars such as these when I get the chance. I am fortunate enough to get accreditation as a photographer - purely as reference for my work- at most circuits in the UK and also some GPs through Bernie Ecclestone who also has one of my originals. I would have loved to have been in the position I am in now , back then in the golden age of racing. Anyway, it is a pleasure to be here and to meet other like minded racing nuts! If you would like to see my work, my website is www.andrewkitson.com
Chris Townsend 16 Jan 2003, 20:31 Guess I'm in the same boat as Andrew as I've been hanging round here for 18 months without declaring my interests.
I'm 43, a university lecturer by profession. [Art history if you're interested] First got into car racing in the mid-70s as an alternative to the bikes my dad was pushing me onto. My earliest race memory is Alan Jones beating up a ShellSport G8 field at Brands in an old Lola T330. Best motor racing moments: watching Villeneuve on a quick one in practice for the 78 British GP, the control through Clearways was not of this planet. Watching Senna virtually lap the field in a very wet FF race [this would be March 81] and then discovering he'd never raced in the rain before. I couldn't go round Paddock that quickly in the dry! I went on to Brands Hatch Racing and some back of the grid FF1600 in the early '80s.
These days I'm mostly interested in F5000 and F.Atlantic history and do a fair amount for Allen Brown's oldracingcars.com site. At some point I'd like to get a complete record of FB/Atlantic together, so if any of you have information/programmes/race results sheets please get in touch. [I seem to remember that gfm briefly raced an ex Nick May Lola T360 whose identity remains a mystery to the F1 Register] I'm also looking for a suitable early 70s GT to race in 2004 or thereabouts.
allenbrown 18 Jan 2003, 10:48 Originally posted by Chris Townsend
I ... do a fair amount for Allen Brown's oldracingcars.com siteThat's not true. Chris does a massive amount for OldRacingCars.com!
Allen
racer69 18 Jan 2003, 16:59 Real name is Luke, i'm 19, and am motorsport obsessed, i watch the lot, my first memory of life is watching the 1985 James Hardie 1000 at Bathurst, where John Goss and Armin Hahne won in the TWR Jaguar XJS. and have a huge interest in the history of motorsport.
If i had to choose a favourite form it would probably be Touring Cars, probably because they have been pounded into me from when i was born as they for some reason seem to be the be-all and end-all down here to some. I have a big interest in motorsport from the 70s and 80s, particularly European Touring Cars and Sportscars, and rallying. I'm a big fan of Grand Prix racing as well, pretty much everything and i'm always after stuff from the past, hence why i have a huge video and magazine collection not only from nowadays but stuff strecting back many years.
And when i manage to get some finances together, i'll be out on the racetrack. :beer:
Chris Townsend - you said in your post two up from here, that you weren't sure where the Lola T360 went to after I had it. Well I sold to my mate Mike Gue and he sold it to someone (I'll remember it sooner or later) who stuffed it at Silverstone well and truely in it's first test after the purchase. Was it not written off?
I actually bought the car from Barry(?) Robinson the bloke who raced ex-Clark Lotus Cortinas, dealer from North East.
Richardson BDG lump and nice little car. We acheived fastest-lap-of- the-year at Silverstone 77 or 78. Didn't have any funds to run it so we only managed one or two Shellsport Group 8 races right at the back. We could see what was meant to happen though.
Originally posted by gfm
I actually bought the car from Barry(?) Robinson the bloke who raced ex-Clark Lotus Cortinas, dealer from North East.
Brian Robinson it was John. Here he is early in his career at Cadwell 1st October 67 in one of the ex-works Lotus Cortinas, front and back.
By my reckoning, you put those pics on at after midnight! Wow, that's dedication. I'm sure Brian would love to see those pics. Great pics too David. Actually Barry Robinson was the demolition merchant from London who did things with a Lamborghini amongst other powerful things wasn't he? Oh, and maybe a Porsche later.
Back to Brian, we had an extremely close dice on the streets of Birmingham in 911s one year. He slipped by me on the last lap to win when I slowed for that white 911 Turbo which smacked the armco - my excuse! Performance Cars in Darlington - was that where he is? Was.
Don't you wonder where cars like that Lotus Cortina have gone? What a gem.
DAVID PATERSON 19 Jan 2003, 13:59 One of the ex-Jim Clark works Lotus Cortinas, now lives in Australia. It was raced in Australia by Allan Moffatt and has now been restored to original condition and is part of David Bowden's enormous collection.
I helped push it into a pit garage at a Lakeside Historic meeting a few years ago. :)
Dedication maybe John. More like forgetting time when I'm on this forum, and not being able to resist the temptation to scour my albums and scan a pic which may be relevant to a posting. Is there a cure I wonder? Perhaps there's a patch you can wear to wean you off it, but what the heck, I prefer to lose sleep than stop 10/10th-ing.
Thanks for the info on the Lotus Cortina David. Brian Robinson raced one of the ex-works Mk2's the following year and I'll look up a photo later. Will find somewhere else to post it though as this thread isn't the right place.
yelwoci 21 Jan 2003, 20:06 Ian Cowley 42 London, UK
Racing(?) since 1995 here in UK.
Have my own RX-7 12A 1982 which have raced in CSCC Group-1.
Also race a BMW M3 E36 in endurance racing at Nurburgring and in UK.
Hoping to do Nurburgring 24-hrs and possibly Bathurst 24hrs this year, though latter may prove difficult.
Currently rebuilding the RX-7 for a couple of outings this year.
IanC
Originally posted by yelwoci
Ian Cowley 42 London, UK
Currently rebuilding the RX-7 for a couple of outings this year.
IanC
42!? Blimey, you've weathered well. Must be your pathalogical avoidance of work.
Anyway, what was up with your strut spacers ? Not worn out ?
Stacy
xjr5006 24 Jan 2003, 14:37 Hi, the names Don, I'm 45 tomorrow and was a motor bike nut in the 70's. In the early 80's I raced Mk2 Jags and in the late 80's an all conquering XJS. By the 90's I thought I had given it all up until this little babe of a Le Mans car (the clue is in the name) was dropped in my lap. Got the ticket back and was last out at Monza in October.
Curva Grandee flat out, feeling the G-forces build with one hand on the wheel & changing gear; look over to check there is still oil pressure then up to make sure we are still on the track then scream and shake the wheel to make the old girl go faster as you go past the pits on the limiter..... ......IT WAS MEGGA!
Andrew Kitson 24 Jan 2003, 14:44 Don - welcome and happy birthday for 2moro!
My name is Simon Ireland. I'm 43 and a Firefighter living in Nottingham. I spent many weekends through the seventies and early eighties at race meetings, particularly Mallory, Donington, Silverstone and Brands. I then lost touch a little for a few years, but have regained my enthusiasm in recent years by taking my 4 year old son. My heroes are Ronnie Peterson, Gilles Villeneuve and Jim Clark from F1 and Gerry Marshall and Barrie Williams from saloon racing in the seventies.
I would love to see massive reductions in downforce on racing cars so we can see cars race closely again.
Also heaven is a FF1600 meeting at Mallory in the mid seventies with 3 heats and a final and Daly, Warwick, Kennedy etc. etc.
To all who have posted on this thread - welcome!!
Just realised how many people will have found us for the first time since this thread was visible.
Please don't be strangers - do let us know who you are, and what your historic interest encompasses.
Following the debate about my tag on the F3 in the 70's thread I guess I had better formally introduce myself! My name is Chris Rivett and I have been an avid follower of all things motor sport related since my very early years. My first racing memories were as a spectator at Combe in the mid 60's as a 12 year old, cycling the 7 or so miles from home to see the action. Holidays abroad always seemed to encompass motor sport for me, although my parents were not keen on encouraging me to participate, however we did visit the Nordscleife and drove round it in a Vauxhall Victor estate as well as Monza, complete with roof rack fitted! I started to marshal at 15, and that was my lot until I bought a Mallock Mk18 in 1989 and started to sprint and hillclimb mainly in the BARC series. The Mallock went in 1997 when my son, Matthew became 17 and we bought a Van Diemen RF89 FF1600 which I sprinted and he raced. He became far more accomplished than me, winning the Castle Combe FF1600 Class B championship in 2001. Last year we bought the ex-Didier Stoessel/Anthony Davidson Ray GR97 FF1600 car which I have hardly touched, but which Matthew has again been quick in. So that is me, out at last as they say!!!
This here is Bryan Cobb. I'm 20 years of age, yet have been following motorsports since I can remember. I got the racing bug from my father who was a crew chief on a injected nitro dragster in the late 60's early 70's, so it runs in the family.
Pretty much all forms of motorsports interest me, even more so their histories. I spend way too much time looking into F1 and sportscar history, some of my grades in other studies may show that! Waking up at 4:00am every other weekend to watch F1 is hard to do, but I enjoy it none the less. I guess I'm a racing junkie!
simon drabble 3 Mar 2003, 09:04 Hi my name is Simon Drabble and I have been racing for a reletively short time, 4 years. Having started with 70's Roadsports series run by HSCC in an Alfa 2000 (105 Series) I now race an FIA Alfa Guilia Sprint GT in mostly endurance races but also the occassional HSCC HRSR round and new to this season I will be racing Lotus 11 Le Mans in BRDC 50 Sportscar Championship and Gentleman Drivers series. For me 50s and 60s are the golden eras. My season kicks off in 3 weeks at Silverstone and I cant wait as it is always a long winter away from racing!
Good luck Simon - winters are long aren't they?
simon drabble 3 Mar 2003, 14:23 too long but they say absence makes the heart grow fonder! I am itching to try out the new toy so counting the days before 21st testing at Silverstone ahead of a double header opening 2 rounds of BRDC on the Sunday
Hi All, I'm Dan, 26 live near Manchester. Been into racing as long as I can remember but mainly modern stuff..until recently! A good friend of mine is well into Historic Racing and is good friends with Barrie "Whizzo" Williams, after spending some time with these guys I now have a lot more time for classics, the racing is far better! All being well I'll be going to the Goodwood Revival for the first time this year which I'm really looking forward to.
Peter Mallett 3 Mar 2003, 16:45 Try getting to some of the CTCRC meetings to. you'll see a great array of Historics, post historics Group 1 and 2 cars. Also the HSCC runs a good championship.
glyn parham 3 Mar 2003, 19:18 My name really is Glyn Parham and I am 45 years young and currently live in the Medway towns. Only last night I posted my first race meeting on the site, so you will be able to read about how I got started there.
My interests are Touring cars, World Rallying, and the vast majority of world motorsport. I also build 1/43 scale models of Touring & rally cars for both myself and friends.
One of my main reasons for using this sight was to find photos and memories of the 60's & 70's British Touring Car Championship, me thinks I struck lucky first time.
It has been a great pleasure to read so many interesting items on this and other threads. I will be keeping a watch on future developments and will definitely be asking plenty of questions about this period in future
Peter Mallett 4 Mar 2003, 07:39 Hi Glyn,
I worked at the Isle of Grain Power Station in the 70's and spent a few weekends at Brands Hatch. At the time Gordon Spice and Andy Rouse ruled the BTCC with Whizzo and Tony L giving chase. Remeber REx Greenslade in the first of the SD1 Rovers?
Until recently I lived not far from Gerry Marshall and could spend a pleasant hour or two listening to his stories in our local pub. That's if my liver could stand the pace!
Like you I like the 60's and 70's Touring Cars and if you pop over to my website you can see my current racer. (It may look familiar).
You can also see all those cars at the CTCRC race meetings, one of which is at Brands Hatch in May (17/18) I think.
Hi folks
Suzanne Peedell here (see, I DO look in here Tim:)). Age 26 and love cars of all types (racing or road-going). Got interested thanks to my daddy and his side of the family (all of whom worked/still work at Cowley - hence the road-going affection) and my mummy (blame her for the racing affection) who then regretted her daughter's love of things that go vroom-vroom when she realised how expensive this hobby would be:rotate:. she changed her mind when she started coming to races with me and we wreak havoc at Silverstone during the summer.
In the meantime, I still do some unofficial online PR-work for Mika Hakkinen (who does approve of it and is always extremely helpful, friendly and cooperative) and wrote for the Ten-Tenths newsletter (although I've not contributed in a long while owing to total lack of time and writers block). Have also found myself at circuits other than Silverstone - thanks to Tim D, Maisie and Chris Y - at all sorts of odd times of the year (by jove, Silverstone in December and February is even colder than in summer - which I didn't think was possible:)) and will probably be at more this year.
I'm going to own a mini farm when I grow up;) which will be made up of lots of minis, Peril (he's my MG), all of Maisie and Chris' cars, plus anything else Maisie and I get our hands on. I reckon we'll need a small continent to house them all on.:laugh:
Hi Everyone,
I'm Kevin Turner and I'm 21 so I don't have anything like the experience of some of you guys (and girls). However, I have - according to people that know me - been obsessed with cars and Motor Racing since I was old enough to know what was going on. I'm interested in anything on wheels really - I've been to VCSS metings, World Sportscar events, HSCC events etc. My favourite event is probably the Goodwood Revival Meeting which I attend every year.
I am hoping to be a Racing Journalist and have written historic and club racing reports for Autosport during the last couple of Summers. I'd also love to own a Porsche 917 but have yet to find a pot of Gold and almost certainly wouldn't be able to drive it anyway!
I am currently at York University studying History, but wihshing that the course included some race action!!
Smokey 6 litre 4 Mar 2003, 13:56 hello,
im Martin Davis,
i've been going to Snetterdon for as long as i can remember and have so far i have also made it to Knockhill, Malory Park, Cadwell Park, Thruxton and Anglesey. i also hope to make it to croft this year.
i'm hoping to do begin a degree in Motorsport engineering and design in the next couple of years.
i am also applying to become a Marshall.
Hello,
Having been posting here for a fortnight, I came across this thread and felt I should introduce myself (suggestion - make it a hot thread that always stays on top.) By the way, how can you get to threads beyond the first page?
I am Duncan Rollo
I would describe myself as a 55 year old armchair enthusiast living in Coulsdon.
I grew up in Kenya where easter meant Safari time. Such was the interest that the Kenya Broadcasting Corporation would broadcast a full progress report every twhree hours or so. By full I mean the lateness of all competitors, who was out and why, and most important in the context of the Safari - weather and road conditions.
As well as the Safari we had racing at the Nakuru track - four meetings a year mixed cars and bikes. There were also hillclimbs at two or three different venues, but I hardly went to any of them.
With such a lack of live motor racing I was an avid reader of Motor Sport and still revere DSJ and his disciples.
I collect 1/43 model cars and I am trying to collect every world champion - driver and manufacturer. Mainly diecasts (Brumm, Minichamps, Quartzo, Onyx, etc) but I am now into white metal kits to fill the last 12 or so gaps. I am currently struggling with the 8 pieces needed to make the rear wing of a Tameo McLaren MP4. the smallest is about 3mm long and I can hardly even see the bl**dy thing, let alone fit it in the right place with my ten thumbs.
Amongst my first motor racing memories is watching local champion driver John manussis winning at Nakuru, driving a D-Type Jaguar - hence the ID
paulzinho 16 Mar 2003, 23:53 Hello D-Type!
To view the older threads scroll to the bottom of the Historic Racing and Racing History page and you should see a small panel allowing you to select how far back you wish to view threads! You can go right back to the start if you so choose!
PaulSands 31 Mar 2003, 16:42 Hi...my name is Paul Sands,I'm 40 and have been going to circuits as long as I can remember.
In 1977 & 1978 I was the pit board boy for Fank Sytner during his FF2000 & Sports 2000 (Champion) campaigns.
I drifted away a bit once I hit my late teens probably making a trip to a GP and the BTCC at Donington annually.
Last seasons snoozefest of an F1 season prompted me to go buy a camera and start revisiting my roots..which I have to admit was the best decision I've made in years. My three year old daughter is my constant companion, which makes Mallory Park by far the most popular destination (due to the fact that it has swings and a climbing frame/slide...apparently I played with Damon Hill on the slides there back in the 60's but I cant remember :) )
This year we have a full calendar planned and will be attending a wide range of races from 750MC to CART and F1.
Mallory, Donington & Cadwell will probably be the most visited.
paulzinho 31 Mar 2003, 18:12 Hello Paul, welcome aboard!
Sounds like you've a few good stories tucked away there!
Andrew Kitson 31 Mar 2003, 19:56 Originally posted by PaulSands
Hi...my name is Paul Sands,I'm 40 and have been going to circuits as long as I can remember.
In 1977 & 1978 I was the pit board boy for Fank Sytner during his FF2000 & Sports 2000 (Champion) campaigns.
Hi Paul, welcome.
We have very similar paths! Back in 77 /78 I was pit board boy at Royale in FF1600 and a couple of times for Rad Dougall in their works FF2000 car.
Please can you confirm the following?
Frank at the time was driving for Ken Hensley Racing in FF2000 or 'Super Ford' as we called it then, was he not? His team mates were Ken, (who was keyboard player of the rock band 'Uriah Heep'
and Ian Taylor. They were all orange Dulon's if my memory serves me correctly?
Frank then drove a Howett Printing sponsored Sports 2000 Lola T492 in S2000?
Happy days!
PaulSands 1 Apr 2003, 00:15 Hey Andrew .. yeah I remember Rad Dougall...he had a certain Mr Rory Byrne with him at the time didnt he, designer of the Royales :)
I first met Frank at Mallory when he was with Ken Hensley Racing (I was actully a huge Uriah Heep fan so it was a dream come true) he was racing alongside Ian Taylor and Ken himself ocasionally raced.
I think it was the following season (77?) where Frank and Rad went head to head...Frank was racing the Foxwood Sytner Dulon and had the better of the first part of the season but Rad soon started to dominate...there were two championships running werent there I seem to recall Frank was in the running in one of them right to the end? could be wrong there of course. Good year that one..I even got farmed out one race at Snetterton to help Geoff Friswell (The Whizz) cos he had nobody with him that day :) Frank switched to a Royale midway as it was evident that the Dulon was being roundly beaten.
I thought it was geat the following year when Rad won the opening round of the European F2 championship at Thruxton.
Sports 2000 was definitely a Howitt Printing Lola I thought it was a T490 but again I could be wrong there...the main protaganists that season were Frank, John Trevelyan, Chris Alford and John Webb...again he switched cars mid season from Lola to Tiga as he was beginning to loose his advantage. He had a pretty bad smash in testing at Mallory that year..was cut up by an FF1600 going into the esses and destroyed his car leaving him with broken ribs...crashed on the Wednesday but still raced at Mallory on the Sunday...the race was won by Paul Haywood with a decidely bent engine
:laugh: :laugh:
Howitt Racing also sponsored a class B Clubmans that year for Gary Ferriman..he was racing against Nick Linney who spookily enough is now one of Franks big rivals in Historic Sports cars....I'll shut up now I'm rambling :laugh:
I caught with Frank & Nick for the first time in about 22 years a couple of Sundays back at the BRDC Historics at Silverstone
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