Motorsport photography Part 2

Hi everyone,thanks again for all advice you gave me about buying my first camera.I've been to a couple of bike meetings and got some quite good results for a first attempt.

Is there any possibility of getting track access and if so how do I go about achieving this? (Oulton Park is the track I'm most interested in)

I would absolutely love to gain pit lane access (my dream is to get into the paddock area at the British Moto GP and World Superbike meetings)Has anyone got any names/contacts/advice they would like to share with me? (PM me if that's better)

I know the above sounds very ambitious but that's ultimately where I would like to be(no harm in asking!!!)

Any advice on "what to do next" eg, who to send photos to to get recognition or any general info on how I can progress would be very much appreciated. Thank you.:rotate:

you can try sending your Pics to the variuos clubs they may use them in club mags etc

talk to people, and let those people see your pictures. there are tracks where you can get just as good pictures as the people on the other side of the fence - brands, at paddock hill, for example. keep taking, and most importantly, keep talking to people. you might end up accidentally talking to someone who could help you.

Thanks but who are "people" just anyone around the track or racing team members or officials around the track??? (I don't think I could talk to the riders,I get too nervous!!)

i've met a bunch of drivers through this forum, although they're not toooo handy in the search for decent contacts (lovely ppl tho :)). admittedly i've been lucky in meeting a couple of people who run websites who want pictures, and i'm lucky in knowing someone who's editor of a local newspaper oop north.

if it's mostly bikes you do, if you end up with a good picture of an accident or something like that (sneak test shots are good too), then get in contact with a publication (for cars autosport or motorsport news) who might not have an agency photograph of what you've got.

actually, do go along to random test sessions when they're testing the new bikes over winter, you might be able to pick up on some gossip. also just get talking to random people at the track, there's always the off chance they might know a rider who wants some pictures of themselves for sponsors or whatever.

you just have to keep talking and look for that lucky break...

Everyone!

As an example, if you get a good or unusual photo you might like to email it to the team website or take it along to the next race meeting. If they like it they may offer you money for a copy - then say you'd prefer the opportunity to get trackside and ask if they will be prepared to request accreditation on your behalf in return for you taking more photos of the teams bikes/riders...

Good advice,thanks. Would you believe I have actually already got some of my pics on a Superbike riders web site, so I am doing the right sort of thing.(They were my very first attempt with my SLR camera too!!)

Excellent! Email them and ask if they would like some more nexttime they race local. When they write back and say yes (and they will cos they love freebies) then ask for them to write you a letter requesting TEAM ACCREDITATION for photography purposes. Then simply get in touch with the relevant circuit and ask to speak to the press officer/media office and ask they send you the necessary forms. When they drop through your door, fill them in and drop them back in the post (or by fax) together with the letter from the team and hey presto...

he's right. if you've already done that, you've got yourself a very good chance of getting trackside access.

I dont know were you are but if you can get to mallory park for the BSB or any club meetings (EMRA ect) try and get there. The pits is open to all riders are easy to find there is no fence in the way and you are as close as press guys. Its also a very fast and short track so you will get loads of action shots and crashes as well.

Thanks everyone, Craig I don't want to be too pushy with the Team (they have already requested more photos for the next meeting I attend)would they mind me asking them for a TEAM ACCREDITATION letter??

Not if they want free photos. And, let's face it, they are going to be even better if you can get the other side of the safety fencing and closer to the track. Simply ask them if they would mind you applying to the circuit for a photography accreditation and see what they say - if they say yes then ask if they could possibly supply you with a letter requesting you be accredited in the name of the team. I don't know how it is in bikes but in the BTCC, which is the series I cover, each team is permitted a minimum of two people to cover the event, and that's without any fuss at all. Unless you're trying to cover an event at Thruxton that is!

yeah, never deal with thruxton. talk about blood out of a stone.

the thing about two people per team in touring cars works for drivers (in formula renault, admittedly) as well, usually they allow for a photographer and a press officer. except in the fia series, apparently. the tightwads only let them have one press person then.

Most circuits say that you are not allowed to use any images taken without photography pass for anything other than private use, but they're not going to know (unless, perhaps at a GP!). I think Castle Combe is just as bad as Thruxton. To get a press pass, you have to had images and text printed about the circuit in a recognised source, which without a pass is illegal anyway!!!!!

Take what they say in the program about not being able to use the images and that they can take anything of you with a pinch of salt. Its **** they cant and wont take it of you. Any images you take are yours and you hold the copyright untill you sell it outright. Anyway they cant stop it after its gone to print and if they did try to do anything to you after A) how are they going to find you B) what action could they take.
If you want to get accreditations you have to get published if you want to get published you have to have accreditations its a chicken and egg thing. Go for your life and go for it.

I find most of the clubs and circuits very helpful with accreditation of a photographers pass (for reference for my work - see my website)
All I can say is you need to keep plugging away and a valid reason for needing to be trackside - took me years to get a pass, but gradually I got more and more help and fortunately have full season accreditation now from Octagon along with accreditation from FOM for the GP. I guess they now recognise that this is my living and I need to get the reference. Offering the circuits free copies may help but I know that Silverstone got caught out years ago at the F1 tyre tests when everyman and his dog seemed to get
a pass for the pit wall and they stopped it. Things tightened up after this.
Good luck anyway.

It's damn hard to get the right passes and to convince the authorities that you are a bona fide photographer. A lot of barriers are put in your way, even when you have letter and a portfolio of prints to back up any accreditation application. There are about 3 top flight motorsport picture agencies which appear to have the whole market sewn up, and many teams just wont even give you a chance to show off you work as they have contracts with these agencies. Im happy being an independent, but if your good enuff maybe you can get employed by one of these agencies! A scan of Autosport will give you a clue to who I am on about!

If you manage to get some unusual pics in an area not covered by the pro's then you stand a good chance of getting them published - if you submit them early enough. You HAVE to phone the picture desk as soon as possible to discuss their requirements as all publications work to very tight deadlines. Don't waste time developing your film. If they are interested they may arrange collection and will develop and print it for you. I had a couple of early submissions returned with a compliment slip signed "too late" before I learnt that.

What about pit lane access? Have I a better chance if I go on a qualifying day and ask one of the officials nicely??

go on a test day, and ask nicely then, or just walk in like you know what you're doing. the worst that can happen is someone says 'oi'....

Thanks Bella,has anyone got any tips/info on how I could get a paddock pass for the Donington Moto GP this year? (I'm now on my knees begging)

unless you grovel to the team you've already taken pictures of, and they're doing a support race, you'll have difficulty :(

Is anyone at Oulton Park taking any pics this weekend? If you are maybe we could meet up sometime on the saturday

well i've just invested £10 in a mag called digital photography for beginners and my dad bought a big book the other day about digi cameras.

Here starts the long to snap happy ;)

As im not going to university the 6 grand fees my parents would have folked can go on a camera instead (once i've proved myself on a cheaper model of camera).

Calcium

What sort of camera did you go for? What sort of lenses (sizes), what sort of film are you using (if it's not digital).. Experiment - try different settings, different techniques, get a book on Photography, John Hedgecoe's are usually pretty good or have a good 'leaf' through and see if they cover what effects you want to create.

I bought an SLR about 2 years ago and was doing quite well... but using a lot of the 'Program' settings - it seemed that the results were sometimes a bit hit and miss, especially in difficult lighting situations (i.e. too little, sometimes too much - not possible surely?).. Then decided to 'do' an Evening course in Photography, updated my camera and lenses and learned some really good techniques and tips. You can always learn - Practical Photography is an excellent magazine to read and gain tips in or ask questions. There are loads of sites with information about Photography in as well. Ideally you need to note down what settings you had for each shot so that when you get the results you can see what worked and what didn't and adjust accordingly... Plus bracket your shots. Try different film speeds and types, you might prefer a certain make and try Black & White... (Ilford of course!)

Try panning techniques and different aperture settings together with shutter speed combinations.

Keep taking photos - lots of photos, the more the better!! That 'last one' to use up the film might just be the best shot you take all day. :-)

Plus work with the meter but also don't be afraid to step down and up from that as well...

Go prepared - spare film, spare batteries and all the lenses you think you'll need - the one you leave behind is the one you end up needing the most!!

Someone said 'slow the process down' this is so true, don't be in a hurry, get accustomed to using your camera - so that you can set it the way you want quickly and properly and so that you don't miss things which 'happen'.. Get in to a routine so that you take steps to 'set the picture' up.. Compose, meter, etc...

Never be afraid to take criticism (hopefully constructive), although this is true for all things in life and to accept help/guidance, although you're already doing the latter.

HTH

EPS
:-)

Hi ginettag27. I bought a Canon EOS 300 with a 75-300mm lens. I'm using 400 film and I've got a couple of books from the library (very basic which is what I need!!)

I'm using the programme settings and you're right they are very hit and miss. Thanks for all the advice, it really is useful.

I would be very willing to take any advice/criticim on my photos, that's how I learn to improve, but I don't know anyone who could cast a knowledgeable eye over my first attempts, maybe I could post a few here for you all to give me advice on??

tell you what, practice panning shots. i use about 1/80th and whatever aperture (set the shutter speed, and let it do the rest), and the occasional picture that comes out really well is sooo satisfying... when you're doing head on shots, or stuff that requires a fast shutter speed, make sure you're got the biggest aperture setting you can get (f6.3 with my 50-500).

it's definitely down to practice. don't use the programme settings, they encorage laziness. i've just got a nikon d100, and apart from taking 600 pictures at gp practice day (and getting about 250 really good ones), i've found i could lean on the auto settings and get a lower hit rate, but still get loads of good shots. bad move, film's expensive (and i don't fancy shelling out for another microdrive...).

just play around, half the fun's in discovering one time you've got a whole load of useless shots, and the next finding you're a short term photographic genius...

Some of my personal learnings….

Having spent about 18months out of four years love of photography trackside I have to say that if you want practice do get along to Oulton the press guy there is extremely friendly and is willing to sign on freelancers. Get your face known first though. The guys and gals in the pits there are good folk too and will chat with anyone......get them to recognise you and they'll probably give a nod if asked about you. During most club meetings there are usually about five or six snappers on the day (including me!) and usually only two of them are accredited ( autosport MSN ).

The only lesson I learnt very slowly was there isn't a program for motorsport that works on most cameras and even the quickest autofocus generally misses the moment. Use the camera with a separate light meter and a long lens, set up a "kill zone" with the right D-O-F to cover the piece of track you want, check the shutter speed is above your focal length and you should be OK. I always go for the landscape shot with as many cars in the way as I can, Oulton being as picturesque as it is you can't go far wrong - take a look at TOCA-tour.com's galleries of the Oulton Rounds.

Autosport and Tom Dooley are both wanting pictures of club sport racing showing packs of cars – not individuals. tom is the secretary for BRSCCNW I think - but he does the programs for oulton and is always on the lookout for shots for the cover and inside, you can get his details at www.brsccnw.co.uk you won’t get paid – but you will get credited inside - something to show to teams \ autosport \ MSN and anybody else under the banner of published work. He and Alistair garret are always saying they want pictures to update the website – Alistair if your on this forum – please just update the website – anything, we have seen the pictures of the 2000 party long enough.

As for panning - there is no secret formula - practice, practice and practice some more - even without film in your camera for a while just to get the muscle memory, once you get it right - you'll keep on getting it right – it cost me a damn fortune – I am not a natural at it but now I get 15-20 useable pan shots out of a roll of 24 of which 5 – 10 are pin sharp – I shoot at least 1 roll of 24 panning shots every time I go out.

PS.Always make yourself known to the post observer - good manners, ask if you can take pictures at his \ her post - they will tell you where the pro's usually stand and why in most cases......

PPS.if your at knickerbrook and you see marshal’s running away - treat it as a race.

PPPS. Don’t forget to snap the marshal’s at work now and again and hand the pictures out. you may need one or two of them to save your life one day, but until then they won’t mind you asking the occasional favour…..

and one last thing

All the marshalls at every post know exactly where cars usually exit the black stuff should there be an incident, just smile and ask politley if those are the shots your after........

Just a quick shout out for Mallory. If you cant get an accreditation try going there. There are no fenses and you are generaly as close to the action as the pro and if you get good shots do what solemhill says give them out you cant expect to make your fortune at one meeting and the more you get noticed the better.
P.S
If anyone is at mallory snapping this weekend get in touch ill meet you there we can learn of each other

I have been taking photos at Brands now for over a year and the walls of my house are covered, me and the wife mainly stand on Paddock hill and if you have ever been in the kitty litter there then i will probably have a picture of it. now i have never bothered to try and get a pass as allthough i take a pictures of a few riders on a regular basis my main purpose of going to Brands is for the brilliant racing and non stop action you get at paddock especially during the M.R.O - BEMSEE, bike meetings.I against my better judgement was pursuaded to take my albums of action pics to show some of the riders,the responce was amazing i had so many requests for copys,as allthough there are many photgraphers there they tend to concentrate on the riders and drivers at the head of the field so those lower down are only to pleased to see themselves in pictures and even more so if you have one or two of them dropping it, i am glad to say i have never had the experience of taking a shot of a driver,rider who has hurt themselves bad and i hope i never do. Some of my best shotes were at last years World Superbikes where we turned up a day early and as we looked across at the pit garages Franki Chilli spotted us we had him all to ourselves and he happily posed for many pictures (wife thought she had died and gone to heaven). I also had a suzi Perry all to myself and the wife got some wicked shots of me and her, she turned up with that guy from the D.I.Y show, Nick Knowles but i failed to recognise him and he was not best pleased. Anyway sorry to stray from the subject but try getting to circuits a bit before everyone else and who knows what may turn up. good luck

calcium...when are you going to post your pics then?

When I work out how to do it!!!!!

nice one

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Another suggestion is find out who the local drivers are and who the local newspapers are. if you get some good photographs that could go with a story on the local drivers it would stand you in good stead to get an official pass. You usually need to have some photos in print before obtaining offical accrediatation.

This thread has soooooooo made me want an auto focus SLR camera, I have a manual, cheap one...now I'm off to ebay to have a hunt for one. Half my pictures are fine but aren't in focus! :banghead:

Originally posted by touringlegend
Half my pictures are fine but aren't in focus!

A couple of tips which may help.

Before you take any pictures, practice on a few cars & note where they are at the moment when you would be taking the photo, then pre-focus on this spot.

Use as small an aperture as you can get away with. This will give you more depth of field, allowing more room for error in focusing. Using a small aperture will, of course, force you into using a slower shutter speed, which will require more accurate panning to avoid blurring the cars, but it will give you a blurred background which gives a much better impression of speed.

Try experimenting with different aperture/shutter speed combinations until you find the settings which give you the best results (assuming your camera gives you control over exposure settings!).

I tried practicing on cars and used the lines on the old starting grid at Croft for reference, but I was still a tenth of a second too slow or fast! :laugh:

I'll try out those settings Dave, cheers. :)

Buy a tripod (or monopod) if you want to practice "panning" technique. Use the slowest available shutter speed, as Dave mentioned above, for that nice blurred background. (you can try a wide aperture for the same background but you will find very annoying that on your pics you can acurately read "Bridgestone" on a wheel supposed to propel a car at over 300 km/h)

When you use slow shutter speeds, the mirror (we're talking of a SLR) shakes the camera a bit when it lifts and without a tripod the effect is quite visible. As a general rule it is advisable to use shutters faster than 1/(focal distance of the lens), for example with a 300mm zoom use at least 1/300s.

Oh yes, a modern SLR that offers you "apperture (or shutter) priority" programs (and of course autofocus) are a blessing.

As for films, I developed a bad-bad habbit of using slow films, for example most of films I use are 100 ISO. Besides allowing slower shutters than let's say a 800, the color depth is somewhat larger. But so is the granularity. Not always desirable...

And have films. Lots of them. :) The chance to chose a "photograhy" among 500 pics is greater...

Even better, have TWO cameras. (and what's best, equipped with different lenses) You want to be prepared for everything ;)

My best first attempt:

My best second attempt:

and my best third attempt:

Please be gentle on me!!!!

Calium
What shutter speed were you using on these and how much have you cropped off if any.

pretty blimmin good even if he did crop loads :)

bella thank you very much. I was wondering whether to post the pictures as original?I have cropped them but not hugely.

I've never used a SLR camera before ( and I know nothing about them,apart from all the info you kind people have supplied )

I have been to three race meetings using the SLR and these are my first results. I know the exact images I want to get but it's getting close enough with the lens I have to get a good enough picture.

I envy all the press people at the other side of the fence while I'm battling with the crowd who decide to wave their programmes in front of my shot just at the crusial moment!!!

brickkicker, I'm ashamed to admit it but at the moment I'm just using the programmes on the camera ( well I did tell you I know nothing about them) I hope to learn more and then hopefully start to set up the camera myself!!!

Thats your first attempt! im impressed, i cant wait to get my first SLR.

Calcium

Excellent shots. Cropping's not a bad thing, although if you want to enlarge the images then you'll want as big an original image as possible... Using the program settings is also not a bad thing, but as mentioned they will "let you down" from time to time.. As mentioned by someone else Tv and Av (sometimes Tp and Ap) are well worth exploring as a start - depending on which part you wish to control and which part you want the camera to work out for you..

As also mentioned it's a good idea to note down the settings that you've used for a shot - it gives you a reference point when things go right and when things go wrong!!

For panning, I can recommend going to Santa Pod - easy way to practice!! You can get quite close, plus you pretty much know where the cars/bikes are going to go!! I'll try and dig out some shots and post later on (maybe tomorrow)...

As people have mentioned - take quite a few shots (you may just capture that 'something') and try out different things, film, shutter speed, aperture settings, manual focus, panning.. It's not an easy 'art' to get right, but when 1/2 photos go right (really right!) then it makes the whole effort worth it, plus you just want to get back out there again. Plus it's not cheap either!! Try different developers and don't be afraid to question problems with photos - sometimes the photo produced isn't the best result from the neg - compare the two and you'll see that a bit of cropping goes on in the developers....

As an aside if someone wanted to either get a Press Pass or get photos published what are the best/recommended routes that people know of / can give advice on?

EPS

calcium dont always try using neg film you could also try using positive (slide film) this is cheaper (all you need is a light box to look at your results and you havent got to worry about any croping when it goes to the lab (what you see is what you took.
I dont know if you do this so ill say it anyway. When your panning it can be better to take 2 or even 3 shots that way you should get at least 1 that is spot on if you are trying to fill the frame up with that bike rather than loads of grass and track.
Which tracks do you go to??

ok calcium/ginetta - here we go.

a little creative cropping will be inevitable if your subject is small in the frame and you want it to be big in the frame. if you do - use a slower film or even better some velvia...then it'll take the pull-up better. your pics look a little grainy thats all.

as in most things in life - you get what you pay for. a 500mm nikon f.4 will get you razor sharp images if you get the picture sharp. a sigma 500mm f.8 may not be as sharp - so don't get p****d off, it may not be your fault. the difference is in the quality and the £6,000 price tag!

don't run before you can walk. you're correct - your best picture is the first one....because you've framed the bike quite well(although could be better - look for lines, kerbs, nice grass/gravel)...and as keen amateur you'll have to learn to make good use of pre-focusing and "negative space" - and believe me theres nothing wrong with that...i love it!

panning takes practice...and look for a good spot where they're moving at a good speed to go with the ffflllloooowwww...and try for a while with no film in - just to get your eye in...no sense in chucking money at mr.fuji.

programme schmogramme...you'll just get even more confused. buy a cheap light meter and learn from there - why do you think the pros are always holding them up to the light and not just switch to auto? and why do you think all the dps in f1 racing mag have the aperture and speed quoted? because its usually been shot manually.

backgrounds. think of the background as a backdrop...look for plain, or if there is colour thens the time to go panning for gold.

sadly accreditation is one of the hardest things in the world to get hold of. the issue of insurance for you and for anyone you come into contact with being just one sticking point. think of all the great jobs in the world...then imagine if you fancied it, you could just turn up and give it a go...mmmm...today i fancy being a brain surgeon. a little hard maybe but just a thought.

usage is massively difficult...most mags are sending all the way down to club level. question is ginetta...do you want to be a motorsport photographer? if you do then you need to approach things from an entirely different perspective. you want qualifications in photography, darkroom techniques, wire tranmission, etc....then you go knocking on peoples doors.

sorry for the rant, its meant to help and i do know what i'm vaguely talking about...honest!

I dont usualy do bikes but heres one I did for when I was after a guy called Gordon Hall this isnt the one they used but its the only one I can find.
Was shot on a 28-70 F2.8 at about 1/125 (not sure on that thought)would have more than likly been taken on provia (fuji)
Sorry its a bit small and lost a bit of sharpness but they kept making me make it smaller :censored:

brickkicker my main track is Oulton Park but I've also been to Donington and Knockhill. I also plan to go to Thruxton this year.

SolemHill you mentioned contacts for Oulton Park, would these be the same people to contact about my bike photos? (or could they point me in the right direction) I have a few photos from a Club meeting I went to ( Bemsee, the second photo I posted is one of them) Maybe I could try and contact someone at Oulton Park about them???

Brickkicker, bloody good picture please don't post any more, you're putting mine to shame:laugh:

Calcium,

Send me an email through my profile ( not a pm ) with the meetings your interested in. I'll do some snooping on your behalf!

brickkicker, how did you get your picture to scan so sharp? The originals of my photos are ok but when I scan them the end result is what I've posted on the previous page, your pic is very sharp, what am I doing wrong?? (maybe it's my scanner!!!! orrrrr, a good workman never blames his tools!!!)ha ha....

I used a film scanner (slide scanner) these can be picked up at a reasonable price (second hand or brand new) you can scan in at much higher resolution although I think that one is a bit dark (especialy round by his foot bloody sun)if you use a slide scanner or normal scanner use it in its highest setting then if you need to make it smaller you can do, try using something like adobe photoshop 5, 6 or 7 these are good when you get the basics sorted.

Well, I'll have the proof of my work in a few days, for I am off to Knockhill BTCC tomorrow. :)

Knockhill is a fantastic place for taking photo, us less privileged can get just about as close to the action as the people with passes, enjoy TCL, I love the place....

Yeh, having been to Croft I was dissapointed at the lack of photo opportunites, or maybe it's because I'm regularly at Knockhill.

This is one I took at Knockhill:

Try again!!!

Try again !

You must've been near me that day, I was standing up the straight there, just near the access road from the paddock to the track.

How close can you get?? That's why I love Knockhill.

Arrr, so did you see the Rutter incident??

Yeh, Steve was on for the double as well! :banghead:

Probably my first and last visit to a BSB race as well, as Knockhill is rumoured to be losing the race next year as they can't afford it, something along those lines. :(

No, no, no!!!!!! I did actually hear that rumour when I was there but I didn't want to beleive it (something to do with the weather???? ) They can't stop going there, I've just discovered the place!!!!

I'll try posting a pic of "said" incident but it won't be upto much!!!!

Stuart Gray (circuit manager) said that they may lose next years race on the Knockhill forum.

I have also heard that the BTCC race is not safe, there are 10 rounds this year, 10 next year, although Rockingham will be added next year meaning one round will have to be dropped, although it may be one of the two weekends that the BTCC visits Brands that is dropped. Apparently Knockhill facilities aren't up to standard. :(

Ohhhh, the bogs aren't posh enough!!!! Rockingham is PANTS!!!! Well, IMHO,please don't loose Knockhill, for spectating it's fantastic, Rockingham is miles away from the circuit, does that add to atmosphere? I don't think so!!

Naughty Rutter:

Well, it's the best I could do surrounded by some VERY angry Scots!!!!!!

Well, I'm back from a rather soggy Knockhill! It was pouring from just before the Sprint Race, and I didn't really manage to experiment with the aperture settings as it was so dull I needed as much light in the lens as possible.

Having taken a full spool of BTCC Cars, I went to rewind the film, when it snapped. :( I think it's because I took one too many pictures!!! :( I tried my best to get the film back in the spool under the cover of a bag, I'm going to ask the developers if anything can be salvaged, but I doubt it. :banghead:

However, all was not lost and I proceded to take another spool in the Feature event, albeit not being able to experiment because of the weather conditions, again. :censored:

I shall see how bad they are on Tuesday!

Orrrr, poor do. Never mind it can only get better!!!!!!

knockhill was too wet. all that flippin' way for a formula renault race that lasted for 8 laps. got some good formula ford ones though, and hopefully a couple of touring car shots.

it's a nice circuit from the point of view of the spectator who wants to take pictures. it could do with a few more NICE toilets and some decent showers... not the rain kind either. lovely views!

Here's a few from my successful film. The scanner makes it a wee bit duller & grainier unfortunately...

Priaulx again..

Anthony Reid...

Reid again, followed by an Egg Sport car...

Team Halfords Carl Breeze...

I'm planning to upload a few more images to some webspace so everyone can get a peek. :)

can I post one too?
http://www.btccandmore.co.uk/gallery/knockhill/Neal2wheels_mid.jpg

christ! i'm sure a caption referring to flatulence would be appropriate here...!

i'd post some of my work, but i can't be arsed to shrink it to make it more acceptable. go to my website and have a look (the little house next to my name...) if you're that bothered. f1 pics are there, as are charlie (hollings) and darwin (smith). and alex lloyd in the frenault bit..

mr legend sir, cracking pictures! what sort of a lens have you got there??

It's a Pentax 300mm telephoto lens. Not that sure of my photographic terms but I think telephoto means it's in a fixed position, ie my lens isn't a zoom lens which is sometimes annoying...

But for £20 off eBay it wasn't too bad...


Les - cracking picture, that reminds me of Tarquini up on 2 wheels at Donington 1994!

Can I please apologise for using the word "bog" I should have said toilet,sorry. I get a bit wound up at the thought of "money people" complaining about conditions at race circuits just before they fly off in their helicopters to queue for hours to get home after a fantastic days racing (wet or otherwise)Anyway sorry....

Paul Jones,Taylors hairpin.

it's amazing that the bike doesn't just fall over - look at the angle between tyre and road.

That's nothing beleive me!!! You'll be amazed at how far these guys can drop a bike, sometimes they can save themselves from falling off by catching themselves with their knees, honest!!!

The pics aren't very good but they were taken through 2 fences and miles away from the track (well it was Donington!!!) :banghead: :banghead:

At the Esses at Donington (still through 2 fences!!!)

Here are some pics I took this past weekend. All shot on Kodak Max 400 with a f4.5 80-200mm (mostly at 200), at between 1/125 and 1/500.

The clarity may not be the best, but I think that can be attributed to the flatbed. I've not really fine-tuned my scanning technique. Aside from the Champion Audi picture, the rest are pretty darn sharp on paper.

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Originally posted by paul-collins
Here are some pics I took this past weekend. All shot on Kodak Max 400 with a f4.5 80-200mm (mostly at 200), at between 1/125 and 1/500.

The clarity may not be the best, but I think that can be attributed to the flatbed. I've not really fine-tuned my scanning technique. Aside from the Champion Audi picture, the rest are pretty darn sharp on paper.

Well that first shot certainly gets to the root of the atmosphere on Friday - and didn't it rain!

Originally posted by theracegypsy
Well that first shot certainly gets to the root of the atmosphere on Friday - and didn't it rain!
It surely did.

Another qualifying photo...

I am sorry to do this peeps but I've had complaints about the number of photos posted in this topic so I am going to have to close it. Feel free to start another to discuss photography and your photos but I am going to have to ask that you store the photos on external webspace and then link to it in accordance with our forum guidelines.

Cheers

Craig.