mike smith 29 Aug 2002, 23:30 Does anyone race within this or any other of the HSCC's series.
Iam looking at entering the 1970's Roadsports championship nextyear and I would like to know if anyone is racing in this or any of the other HSCC run series at the moment. Iam relativly new to the racing scene and would like a little advice or pointers from anyone whos in it.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
TTFN
Mike
I'm racing in the Historic Roadsports and have friends in the 70s Roadsports. What do you need to know?
There are some very fierce cars in both series and quite a spread of abilities both in the cars & drivers. This makes for full grids and lots of passing, but the standard of driving and a strong "No Contact" rule make HSCC series a "safe" place to be
What kind of car are you planning to run? If you don't have one I'd wait till the end of the season and buy one that's been prepared for the series & raced in it
Nick Froome
www.bolide.co.uk (http://www.bolide.co.uk)
I've raced in HSCCs Classic F3 series for the last 4 years. Great club to race with, and a good atmosphere at their meetings. Cheaper entry fees than BARC / BRSCC aswell.
simon drabble 30 Aug 2002, 08:32 I started in 70's Roadsports and still race with HSCC in HRSR. I would agree with all the above comments and would also add that they are very friendly in 70's Roadsport and were extremely helpful when I was starting out. So what are you racing?
simon drabble 30 Aug 2002, 08:34 If you are looking for a car I am selling an Alfa Guilia Sprint GT which runs in HSCC HRSR and Top HAt and GTA Challenge, you can see it in action on Sunday at Donnington
Mike, I am one of the friends that Nick Froome mentioned - my hubby and I have raced in the 70's Roadsports since 1997 in Lancias. Hubby won the championship in 1998 and I have won class E for the last 4 years (not this year as my car has been given a years sabbatical).
We started racing in 1997 and 70's Roadsports was our chosen championship. It is an excellent starting point for any racing activities. The regulations actively encourage racing on a budget as road going cars which are driven to and from the race are awarded extra "starting points". This is a great incentive (though somewhat contraversal) as it means you don't need to go to the expense of buying a trailer etc. Also the regs only allow limited race preparation which should keep costs down.
I agree with Simon that virtually everyone in the championship is friendly, helpful and encouraging. The racing is very competitive but gentlemanly - ie no contact. Again this really helps the purse strings.
Mike, what kind of car are you thinking of entering? If you need any help with the regs etc, the championship chairman Richard Thorne is very helpful - be aware though, he is a Lancia dealer and you may end up buying a Lancia to race (no bad thing in my books!). Check out the web page: www.70sroadsports.com for more info.
LAK
Wow! This is excellent. We're developing a real community of active historic racers here.
I can only add to this topic that as an enthusiast and spectator, there are few things more enjoyable than kicking back and taking in an afternoon of HSCC competition. And the Roadsports can come up with some of the closest, most diverse, cleanest racing in the calendar.
I'm a fan!
mike smith 30 Aug 2002, 11:59 Hello again !!
Thanks for your comments guys, I didnt think Id get an active responce thanks for proving me all wrong!! LOL
So what was the first question??
Ahh cars!. Well I will be starting to build the race prepared car from scratch, I have alot of building/restoration experince as I have restored a Triumph Stag with my father and we are making headway on a MK2 Jaguar at present.
Iam thinking along the lines of:
MK1 Escort, MK1/MK2 Cortina, Triumph Dolomite, BMW2002, Gilbern Invader etc....
Iam still unsure how the 'preparation' envelope can be pushed, my idea is the the car needs to conform to FIA standards for racing with the interior being removed correct fire retardants etc etc??? Im as I have said still unsure about this.
I would be looking at buying the car now and working on it preparing in advance of next season, some of the enjoyment comes in preparing the car aswell as obviously racing it so iam not really interested in buying a race ready car. Iam on a budget but I do have a trailer and rangerover to use for meetings.
I hope that clears a few things up for now, so Ill shut my trap.
Mike
mike smith 30 Aug 2002, 12:08 Sorry guys I just found the eligibility list of cars so scrap all those above cars!!...........back to the drawing board.
simon drabble 30 Aug 2002, 13:21 why not build yr Mk2 up for HSCC HRSR and Top Hat? if you build it to Goodwood/FIA spec you could be invited to Goodwood as well
Curious that the Gilbern is ruled out. It's a two-door glassfibre bodied coupe with a V6 Essex engine in it. And yet there are at least two regulars in the HSCC who campaign Reliant Scimitars.
Anyone know the reason why this might be?
I'd personally love to see the Welsh machine on the tracks.
simon drabble 30 Aug 2002, 15:10 in 70's Roadsports?? I havent seen them, but agree that the Gilbern should be allowed in maybe a call to Richard Thorne would be a good idea, he is always keen to seen the grid expanded
As Simon says, your Mk 2 would be suitable for HRSR, as would your idea of a Cortina Mk1. A 2002 is too late for HRSR, but last years joint champion (along with a MK2) drove a BMW 2000, and he is leading by a mile this year.
Be aware though that HRSR allows a lot more mods than 70's roadsports, so can get a bit expensive - although I share a 100E in HRSR, which is, erm, at the 'cheaper' end of the scale....
As the others have said, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a friendlier club than the HSCC, so go for it!
simon drabble 30 Aug 2002, 15:35 yours is pretty effective tho!!
Originally posted by simon drabble
yours is pretty effective tho!!
<blush>
We worked out we could get it down to the weight limit if I stood in the pits and used a remote control....:rotate:
simon drabble 30 Aug 2002, 17:12 is this yr argument for relegating yr dad to permanent spanner??!!
mike smith 30 Aug 2002, 20:06 Okay spoke to Peter Wray via email today who has kindly sent me in the right direction (towards HRSR) so any car ideas??
Anglia, MK1 Corry..........
P.S, I spent too much time preparing the MK2 into a showroom car to send her racing now..........sorry:p
simon drabble 3 Sep 2002, 10:41 If you like Alfa Giulia Sprint GT's call me as I have one for sale and also enough parts to build a second one
Originally posted by mike smith
Okay spoke to Peter Wray via email today who has kindly sent me in the right direction (towards HRSR) so any car ideas??
Anglia, MK1 Corry..........
Hi,
I wouldn't discount the Classic Touring Car Racing Club's Pre-66 series either. Again, Anglias, Cortinas et al. There are a number of HRSR drivers making the move as well it seems, since the regs are more inviting to the smaller cars.
The other advantage is that you can race in both Pre-66 and Pre-74 series on the same day getting more value for money.
www.classictouringcars.com
Stacy
Peter Mallett 3 Sep 2002, 13:02 Originally posted by stacy
Hi,
I wouldn't discount the Classic Touring Car Racing Club's Pre-66 series either. Again, Anglias, Cortinas et al. There are a number of HRSR drivers making the move as well it seems, since the regs are more inviting to the smaller cars.
The other advantage is that you can race in both Pre-66 and Pre-74 series on the same day getting more value for money.
www.classictouringcars.com
Stacy
Agreed Stacy. Also the regs reflect the period much closer than other championships.
zefarelly 3 Sep 2002, 13:31 Mike . . .Im slowly building a MK1 Cortina GT and want to do the same as you, Im probably going to take longer due to finance and time, no trailer, towing vehicle, license, etc
Nothings cheap, but for the record so far
car £400 (complete, genuine 2 door GT, tatty but not rotten)
roll centre cage £420
2nd hand minilites £100
spre car, modded for rallying but rotten £150 (yielded janspeed exhaust,and inlet manifolds, twin 40's, 'tuned' engine (not sure about that)
2 x ally doorskins £150
thats my kind of budget Im afraid, but I reckon I can get it race ready for £3-4k . . . .and a million hours in the garage :)
Joe
Can I come and see this monster?
Nick Froome
zefarelly 3 Sep 2002, 13:56 Nick
it is a monster at the moment . . . .bare rusty shell on its side in my garage, the the running gear and engines scattered in another lock up.
your welcome, but at the moment its buried as Ive been doing some major work on the house (kitchen, bathroom, plastering, floors etc) . . . .hopefully in the next month or two Ill be sorting the wheat from the chaff and get baqck to welding up the rear chassis rails . . . .then getting it back on the floor.
your in Brighton arent you? (shoreham for me)
mike smith 3 Sep 2002, 15:28 Nice Joe sounds like a nice car you have coming along, its kinda what iam looking for, although i have the added advantage of having a trailer and Rangie to tow it with.
Got the regs yesterday and have been searching for a car already, i may get alot of ideas after i come back from GoodWood at the weekend.
TTFN
Mike
zefarelly 3 Sep 2002, 15:44 Mike
like most things DIY . . .it'll be nice when its done!
Goodwood usually sends me home with unafordable ideas, very nice ones though :)
Spa next week will hopefully give me a productive boost
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