Some more 1960s club racing photos

Andrew Kitson
19 Oct 2002, 14:09
We haven't posted any photos of 'old favourites' lately.
So here is a new thread...
How about this old advert? The race car is a Vixen Imp engined Formula 4 from 1968. I think the track is Silverstone but not sure where, either Maggots or Chapel?

Andrew Kitson
19 Oct 2002, 14:11
Sideways Mini's!

Andrew Kitson
19 Oct 2002, 14:13
A multi wheeled Formula Ford!

Andrew Kitson
19 Oct 2002, 14:45
Sportscars at Brands, 1968.

Andrew Kitson
20 Oct 2002, 11:05
Calling Racing fxgt / Fred Scatley..are you out there? You guys normally have some great old pics from the 60s.
Here's another from 68. Gerry Marshall in the Blydenstein Viva GT chases George Whitehead's Anglia at Clearways.

Andrew Kitson
26 Oct 2002, 11:26
The very quick 1275cc Britax Mini as raced in the RAC Saloon Car Championship in 1968 by Gordon Spice and Steve Neal.

Andrew Kitson
26 Oct 2002, 11:28
John Rhodes in typical style in the works BMC Mini,1967.

Andrew Kitson
26 Oct 2002, 11:30
Frank Gardner in the Alan Mann Ford Falcon 1967.

racing fxgt
26 Oct 2002, 12:37
Ok Andrew here's a couple of Fiats 1968

racing fxgt
26 Oct 2002, 12:40
Broadspeed Escort 1968

275 GTB-4
1 Nov 2002, 11:02
Originally posted by racing fxgt
Broadspeed Escort 1968

Not a huge fan of Escorts, although to be fair they certainly made their mark in several forms of Motorsport......

But Hey racing fxgt - what a superb photo!!:eek:

Andrew Kitson
1 Nov 2002, 11:47
Yeah - what a great shot!
Look at the understeer. Its taken at Silverstone in the days when the apex of each corner had the small brick wall marking the edge of the track - can just be seen at bottom left. Must have been a fantastic place to stand to take photos back then. Can't imagine being allowed to stand that close on the inside of Copse these days!

Chris Griffin
2 Nov 2002, 18:49
Good job it wasn't raining. Have you seen the wipers!

Jenny
2 Nov 2002, 19:37
More fab photos please!

DMC
11 Nov 2002, 04:49
I'll try to dig up some of my father's Ford Anglia Sports Sedan he raced in the late 60's at Amaroo, Warwick Farm and Oran Park.

Andrew Kitson
11 Nov 2002, 10:19
Those rear engined Fiats pictured above used to race with the 'boot' lid propped open for extra cooling for the engine.
Trying to remember who raced them - Ed Swart springs to mind.

Stephen Green
11 Nov 2002, 13:25
I think they were one of the first to be prepared by Arbarth, Fiats tuning house?

racing fxgt
12 Nov 2002, 11:26
How about the engine in this Fiat 500 -Martin-developed Ford 1850cc dry sump push rod unit

zefarelly
12 Nov 2002, 12:20
I bet that shifts . . . .dont fancy the dynamos chances of survival . . . .I managed to kill three in 6 months a few years back . . .actually looking at it, whats driving it?

TimD
12 Nov 2002, 13:29
Ed Swart is quite right, Andrew. Other Abarth Fiat saloon drivers were Ab Goedemans, Toine Hezemans, "Pam", and even Arturo Merzario used to race one for a while.

And on the subject of the bootlids being propped open for cooling, wasn't it Bill Blydenstein and John Handley who deduced that if they could knock the boot stay off with their Mini Coopers, they could make the engine cover snap shut and the Abarths would overheat!

DaveM
20 Nov 2002, 23:48
Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
Yeah - what a great shot!
Look at the understeer. Its taken at Silverstone in the days when the apex of each corner had the small brick wall marking the edge of the track - can just be seen at bottom left. Must have been a fantastic place to stand to take photos back then. Can't imagine being allowed to stand that close on the inside of Copse these days!

Here's what it looked like from the cheap side - a lot safer! The guy crouching and taking what could have been his last photo was well known for wearing (as he is here) an aluminised jacket.

This is John Rhodes at the International Trophy meeting 27th April 1968.

DaveM
20 Nov 2002, 23:53
Oops! Forgot to include the pic!

DaveM
21 Nov 2002, 00:16
Just found this which seems to be the same Lotus 47 as in Andrew's posting on 20th October. I took it at the hairpin at Mallory. The date isn't recorded but it's in my album sandwiched between trips to Brands for the International on 29/10/67 and the Race of Champions 17/03/68!
The driver was John Calvert.

Andrew Kitson
21 Nov 2002, 00:35
DaveM - great pics. Thanks for joining in. That John Rhodes pic is tremendous!

DaveM
21 Nov 2002, 00:58
Aha. Just found a meeting where I wangled a photographers pass, the Martini International at Silverstone on 17/05/69.
So here are some pics from the inside at Copse, firstly Chris Craft leading Pat Mannion and Alec Poole...

Fred Scatley
21 Nov 2002, 01:00
I may be wrong but the photographer who used to wear a silver jacket was Brian Kreiski (I am not sure about the spelling) he started covering motor racing about the same time as I did in the mid 60,s. I have an idea he was killed in a light plane crash at Blackbush airfield a few years ago

DaveM
21 Nov 2002, 01:01
...John Rhodes still setting it up the same way...

DaveM
21 Nov 2002, 01:02
...Frank Gardner in the Alan Mann Escort...

DaveM
21 Nov 2002, 01:08
...and another Fiat Arbarth pilot to add to the list - Rein Zwolsman!

You are right Fred, that's the man.

Andrew Kitson
21 Nov 2002, 01:15
Originally posted by Fred Scatley
I may be wrong but the photographer who used to wear a silver jacket was Brian Kreiski (I am not sure about the spelling) he started covering motor racing about the same time as I did in the mid 60,s. I have an idea he was killed in a light plane crash at Blackbush airfield a few years ago

Yes, Brian Kreisky was sadly killed in the air crash just before Christmas a couple of years ago.
I remember as a lad in the 60s, going along with my father who was a mechanic on special saloons, Brian would always come around selling the snaps he had taken. He was also the first to film / video races in the late 60s / 70s. He then started his succesful company Videovision. They were responsible for (among others) the great video 'In-Car 956'. In the late 70s he ran the British Aurora F1 team Melchester Racing using Tyrrell 008s.

Chris Griffin
21 Nov 2002, 10:25
Wonderful shots guys. Keep em coming

DaveM
22 Nov 2002, 00:15
Just to prove it wasn't just John Rhodes who could set up a spectacular corner, here is Dave Morgan at Old Hall, Oulton Park on 26th August '67. He may look as though he has lost it, but this is how he took the corner lap after lap!

Andrew Kitson
22 Nov 2002, 00:37
When men were men. Look at the run off area. No gravel in sight. Hurrah.

DaveM
22 Nov 2002, 00:39
Remember when Woodcote WAS Woodcote?
As there are plenty of pics from Copse here, just thought I'd add one from back up the other end of the straight. It was awesome (NASCAR phrase) to see any car go through there without lifting, but particularly Ronnie Peterson. Still, this is a club racing thread so this one from the '69 British Grand Prix meeting shouldn't be here - sorry!
The Broadspeed Escorts feature here, and they were often seen in close company wherever the raced.

Andrew Kitson
22 Nov 2002, 00:51
Thanks for posting these DaveM - wonderful!
I was at the other end of the circuit that day - at Stowe.
I remember a Mini going wide ( like in your pic) going through a small gap in the outside low brick wall at circuit edge, along the old tarmac infront of the stands and then rejoining the track through another gap! I think some of the bricks had been removed as a run-off. Good job too.
Yes, Woodcote was a fantastic corner. I still have a very strong memory of an expectant crowd waiting for Ronnie to appear in the JPS because you just knew with him, it would be so very spectacular, lap after lap.

DaveM
22 Nov 2002, 01:04
Nice story Andrew!
The old 1 litre F3 screamers were also verrry spectacular round Silverstone weren't they - all in one slipstreaming line until someone made a mistake, then chaos!

DaveM
22 Nov 2002, 01:16
Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
When men were men. Look at the run off area. No gravel in sight. Hurrah.

Talking of slim run off areas, Crystal Palace had some positively anorexic ones, as illustrated by Les Nash busily DNFing.

Peter Mallett
22 Nov 2002, 09:14
God old Les. He still does that with his Lotus Cortina. ;)

djb
22 Nov 2002, 23:40
poor Cortina.

DaveM
23 Nov 2002, 22:02
How sideways can a Falcon get without actually spinning...?
Well, quite a long way as this shows. Oil flag already waving in the background, hence the slide, and although the marshal is starting to wave the yellow there was a masterly recovery and no spin. This was no doubt a relief to Mike Davies in a Viva who is right behind the Falcon.
Crystal Palace again - but can anyone identify the driver? I know because I recorded it at the time, but here's a chance for you to show off your knowledge (and age).
If you like the idea we could start a quiz thread, what do you think Andrew?

SPman
24 Nov 2002, 09:51
An NZ shot - Garry Sprague, Jan 1970 (I think), Escort BDA.
An easy shot to get because he held it at exactly the same angle almost every lap! Whatever happened to Garry?

SPman
24 Nov 2002, 09:53
Oh yes - at Bay Park. (now a housing subdivision - sound familiar folks!)

Andrew Kitson
24 Nov 2002, 12:16
The sideways Falcon - Is it Terry Sanger?

DaveM
24 Nov 2002, 18:20
Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
The sideways Falcon - Is it Terry Sanger?
Well done Andrew! Terry Sanger it is. He specialised in big banger saloons - I remember seeing him at Mallory back in the mid sixties in a Cortina with enormous tyres. A bit like a miniature Bigfoot.
I've just seen that you created a separate Crystal Palace thread, but couldn't resist posting this...

Andrew Kitson
25 Nov 2002, 09:30
DaveM - There is a clip of Terry Sanger in the V8 Cortina you mentioned on the video 'Motor Racing 1960's style - 1960&67',from Brands.
This was in 67 then I think the same car was raced by Brian Bolton in 68/69.
Who are those mini racers at the Palace? Looks like Gordon Spice or Steve Neal on the left, possibly John Handley on right?

klaus
25 Nov 2002, 21:02
Terry sanger not only drove big bangers, i remember, in the beginning of his career he raced a very fragile plywood Fastback Marcos, he competed with it at the 1000km and 500km at the Ring in 1965 (with Tim Lalonde), and also lots of events on English tracks.
Does anybody has a picture of Terry in his fastback?
I saw him at the Ring two years ago, sharing the steering-wheel in a 300km race on the northern loop in a Lancia Aurelia. So he returned to fragile technics.
Does anybody know, what he is doing today?
Klaus

DaveM
25 Nov 2002, 22:48
You know your stuff Andrew. Steve Neal and John Handley. Neal's Britax team-mate Gordon Spice won the race with Chris Craft in a Broadspeed Escort 2nd, Handley 3rd, Rhodes 4th and Neal 5th. Spice had a really laid back driving style and passed the wheel through his hands in true Highway Code fashion whereas the others were mostly all arms and elbows - so here's an arms & elbows shot of Neal and Rhodes at the Mallory hairpin.

DaveM
6 Dec 2002, 23:26
Oh that was you was it Fred?

Lovely photo.

djb
7 Dec 2002, 08:59
that's great guys, the colour shot appears to be with a longer lens, but that is pretty neat that the two of you were very near to each other. In the colour shot, it is neat to see that the duct tape on the headlights even matches up each car's colour scheme.

cheers from a visually minded Canadian (born in '63 and so has a limited knowledge of 60's sedan stuff)

DaveM
10 Dec 2002, 23:31
One for Alfa fans. In those days they used to appear in saloon car races reasonably and were pretty successful. Unfortunately I don't know who it is but memory suggests he was Dutch.

gfm
22 Dec 2002, 00:03
Going back to those two Fiat 600 by Abarth, I think I was servicing a Mini 1000cc in this race which was the Snetterton 500. One driver was Toine Hezemans, the other and faster driver, his name escapes me but he also had a quick brother. He was killed a few years later. Dutch.
Sid Fox won the race in a Mustang and Terry Hunter did well in a Porsche 911S which I later learned was an AFN demonstrator with a Carrera 6 engine in it. Went like a scalded cat and Hunter I swear was still ****ed from the drinking bout the night before.

More great photos. I have so many contact prints from Fred Scatley. I should have bought more, eh Fred?




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