General Trackday Guide (Please add to this!)

This is a general guide to trackdays, please feel free to add your own points to the guide!

Your first track day
Track days are pretty informal affairs, but there’s still a process to get through before you’re allowed out on the circuit.

Where track days really beat racing hands down is with the general lack of hassle and hanging around. No trailering, no scrutineering, and no waiting for nine other practice sessions to finish before you get to have your blast on the big black track.

That’s not to say it’s just a matter of driving to the circuit then slotting left onto the track for instant action though. Nothing’s quite that simple after all, and all track days operate to rules and regulations of some sort. These tend to differ depending on the organiser and some will be stricter than others – often with the highly worthy intention of maximising the track time for all involved. This affects the price and quality of the day.

At the track.
First job is to sign on, showing your driving licence and handing in your pre-signed indemnity form – sent through the post with instructions and directions the week before. Once you’ve signed the sheet you’re given a handful of stickers and a voucher. One of the stickers will be your number which is stuck to the rear screen – so you can be pulled off the track if you’re especially naughty – while another will indicate the sessions you will go out in.

The groups you go onto track in are loosely based upon the experience and ability of the driver and the performance of the car, so that the quicker guys will not continually trip over the slower, and the slower runners do not feel they are getting in the way of the hotshots. Different companies operate different systems. Wheeltorque, for instance, has an open pit lane, which means you can go out when you like. Each has its advantages, and it’s really a matter of deciding what suits you best.
Once the stickers are fixed on you need to tape up your headlights – this really brings out the track-beast in the car – and then run through some safety checks, sometimes from a checklist provided.

It’s mostly common sense: tyre pressures checked, mirrors adjusted, wheel nuts tightened, loose odds and ends taken out of the car, is there enough fuel, that sort of thing.
By now it’s about time for your briefing, which again is largely informal – though compulsory – and dwells upon the safety aspects of the day. Track procedure is explained – such as driving on the right where the line allows and overtaking on the left and not in the corners – and the flag signals in use are also made clear.
Something else to listen out for is the way the corners are marked. Most operators use a system of cones to mark the line as closely as possible - turn in, apex and exit of the corner. Braking points are not marked, after all, when there’s anything from a Mini to a Supersports racer on track that sort of thing is pretty subjective.
The local knowledge of the instructors helps too, after all these guys are the experts, and at Silverstone they warned of the amount of rubber laid by the F1 boys just a week or so earlier – apparently that gets pretty slick should it rain.

There are other warnings, mostly along the lines of don’t beach it in the gravel bed as it ends the session and your day, don’t overtake in the braking area, and always use your mirrors. Also, the point that this is strictly non-competitive is hammered home – any sort of timing equipment is banned from track days, which is why they’re allowed in the first place so please abide by the rule.

Come on then, what are you waitng for? :beer:

Questions and answers:

Q."Why do trackdays exist?"

Trackdays started out as little more than a few mates hiring a race circuit and having a days fun, but pretty soon people cottoned on to the fact that with the perils of speed cameras, traffic and fear of a blue light flashing in your rear view mirror that the days of fast road driving were in decline. So much so that the trackday movement is now a fully-fledged phenomenon with over 550 trackday events in Britain alone in 2001. We’ve compiled a set of questions and answers that will help you if you’re new to trackdays or may be of interest even if you’re not.

Q "So what happens at a track-day then"?

Trackdays are a way of enjoying yourself and your car in a safe controlled environment away from the public highway. There are many operators, and prices can range from 60 quid to £400 for a days fun depending on the company and the circuit booked.

Q "What’s the benefit of airfield days"?

These airfield days are great for the beginner, due to the wide-open spaces, and are ideal places for the novices to cut their teeth and as a bonus they are usually cheaper than conventional race-circuits such as Silverstone or Brands Hatch.

Q "Do I need a race-licence"?

Not if you are just doing straightforward track-days, but you must take your ordinary driving licence and of course it must be valid. One point worth noting is that if you are going to a day where you will be driving either the circuits or the organisers own cars, they might get a bit sniffy if you have been banned or currently have six or more points on your licence.

Q "I’m not that fast, will I look foolish"?

No not at all, all the companies we deal with have full driver briefings and instruction available for novices so don’t worry, however, don’t get carried away, take your time and learn your limits, operators see too many people turn up thinking they are Jason Plato only to go into the cat litter on their first lap. Be warned marshals can spot a silly f***er a mile away and any on-track shenanigans will result in a ticking off or even you being sent home and possibly blacklisted. Follow instructions and you’ll have a great time.

Q "Will I need a crash helmet"?

Yes, you most certainly will and don’t take any chances and under no circumstances should you contemplate digging out that old chipped, visorless thing that you last used on your moped in 1979 or wear that old one that used to belong to your granddad. If there’s any doubt over your helmets’ integrity, get a new one. This is your life we’re talking about don’t forget and lid can save your life. Always buy the best one you can afford, a good one will cost from £80 upwards, and make sure it fits you properly and feels comfortable, as there’s nothing worse than being stuck inside a crash helmet that is not right. Too tight and it’ll feel intolerable and too big it can be very dangerous. All good suppliers like Grand Prix Racewear, Demon Tweeks & Europa have measuring services. Some trackday operators have helmets you can hire for the day, but our advice is ‘don’t go there’ as it won’t be the most hygienic of appliances.

Q "I haven’t got any overalls, does that matter"?

The emphasis is on comfort, especially for a rookie and it will be a long and tiring day remember, and no-one will be expected to turn up looking like Jensen Button, but, if you can afford to buy a decent set of overalls all well and good. One point to remember, is that if you turn up at an event looking like a Michael Schumacher replica people will automatically expect you to drive like Michael Schumacher, so if you don’t want to attract attention it is probably best to leave the triple layer Nomex at home. Remember that safety and comfort are paramount and although a race circuit by its very nature will bring an element of competitiveness, there are no prizes to be won so a pair of jeans and a sweatshirt will be fine. Arms must be covered at all times if you are in an open top car. We recommend a couple of pieces of ‘proper’ equipment which are race boots and driving gloves, as they do make driving easier.

Q "Does my car have to be roadworthy"?

In most cases Yes definitely, you will need a current MOT and road-tax, however do check with your organiser before you arrive to avoid disappointment.

Q "Does my car have to be prepared"?

Well certainly it’s a good idea to check all the fluid levels are correct and add an extra 10% to your tyre pressures Make sure you’ve got enough fuel, as you’ll use more than you imagine. Also clear out any old Coca- cans and rubbish, as you don’t want to be distracted or even get something stuck under the pedals. It you are planning to do lots of trackdays it is a good idea to look at brake upgrades because you’ll be surprised at how much of a pounding pads and discs will receive. As with anything the skys the limit and any modifications are entirely up to you. Noise will be a factor, as each circuit has a different decibel limit but if your car is road-legal then you should pass the noise test without a hitch.

Q "You mentioned brake upgrades what about tyres"?

As long as you don’t go bananas your road tyres will be okay for a days activities but longer term its worth investing in some good rubber for the purpose. We recommend Avon ACB10’s or Yokohama AO32’s or even a set of Pirelli P-Zero-C tyres (not the same as ordinary P Zeros) which are basically road-legal track tyres and have amazing levels of adhesion and grip, which isn’t surprising when you look at the tread pattern…or lack of it! Make sure they are the same size as your road tyres so that you won’t have to buy new rims. You don’t need to spend a fortune on your car to enjoy track days.

Q "What about all the flags, do I have to learn them"?

Don’t panic as the marshals have ways of making themselves understood!. You will quickly pick up the meanings of the flags. The most frequent one you will come across is the YELLOW flag, which means that there’s danger ahead of you so take extra care. If the yellow is being waved then something has gone badly pear-shaped in the vicinity so be prepared to stop.

A RED flag means there’s been a serious incident and the session has been stopped, so slow down to a crawl and make your way back to the pits or as directed.

A YELLOW and RED chequered flag means there’s oil on the circuit so obviously take care.

A BLUE flag means that another car wants to overtake you and if it’s being waved he wants to overtake you rather urgently.

One flag you don’t want to see, especially if it’s being aimed at you is the BLACK flag, which means you have, in the organisers opinion been a ‘very naughty person’ and you will have to go straight to the pits and get an almighty telling off!

Q "Which side of the road do I overtake on"?

At the drivers briefing in the morning you will get exact and precise instructions on procedures to follow. At nearly all events you will usually overtake on the left and if someone wants to go by, let them if you can. Of course if you’re not sure then hold station, it is always the overtakers responsibility to find the safest way past a slower car. By the same token if a driver has clearly been courteous and moved over for you then give them a cheery wave!

Q "Will my standard insurance cover me for track-days"?

Probably not, unless you are very lucky, meaning that if you biff your pride and joy you are on your own, and although the organisers will have insurance it will only be for Public Liability. Best thing to do is speak to a specialist insurer such as Competition Car Insurance (0115 941 5255 who can quote you on bespoke track day cover if you wish, which works out very cost effective.

For any questions not touched upon here your trackday organiser will always be please to hear from you.

Refering to:- Q "Does my car have to be roadworthy"? - You will need a current MOT and road-tax.

The car I'm planning to use would only be used for track / airfield days and trailered to/from. I was planning not to bother with road tax or insurance, but would have an MOT. Will this severely limit the number of events I can participate in?

No trackday company would let and uninsured driver/car near the track - too risky.

I don't think tax is a major issue, but obviously an MOT is essential.

>No trackday company would let and uninsured driver/car near the track - too risky.

Not many cars are insured for trackdays, I've never seen an orgniser ask to see an insurance certificate and never heard of it being a requirement for doing a trackday.

An MOT isn't always essential either - a car designed for trackdays and trailered in doesn't need an MOT it just needs to be in a sound condition and fully capable of running at high speed without causing concern. If the car looks unroadworthy and doesn't have current tax then it might be assumed that it's failed an MOT and the organiser would be reluctant to let you on circuit but if it is a well looked after trackday car then I can't see anyone having a problem with that.

I personally would have both insurance and tax, anlong with an MOT, so incase anything were to happen, then you would have all your bases covered.

I intend to buy a used Formula Ford or similar to use for trackdays.Would this be permitted?

I think that alot of trackdays are run for road going vehicles only, so you may have difficulty being able to run. there are the test days aimed at competition cars where you maybe out of your depth and probably be more expensive.

With any type of open wheeler (single seater), circuits usually don't allow them on. As Spanner says, if you had one of these, you would need to do a testday rather than a trackday. Expensive though.

And you will need a racing licence for a test day.

BTW this is great stuff Hobson. :beer:

Just happy to help!

I am looking at getting a helmet to use for trackdays, as the hired ones get a bit sweaty, and it adds up for the whole day. But are bike helmets the same? Had a look through demon tweeks and they are quite expensive, but i'm sure you can pick up bike ones for under a hundred. Do you need MSA/FIA approval?

Yes, I think its different rules for bike and car helmets.

Personally, I am going to get an open faced one, so if it gets a bit hot in the car, I have more cooling than a full faced one.

You might want to mention that you should never buy a used helmet

I am a trackday coordinator for Heritage Trackdays.
We don't request to see any documents i.e MOT insurance tax
All we do is a visual safety check of the car.
Under no circumstances will open wheeled vehicles be allowed out on a trackday.
You can use bike or car helmet - as long as there safe ! no cracks etc - its for your own safety to have a decent bash hat !
>No trackday company would let and uninsured driver/car near the track - too risky.
= The risk is all yours.

Safety?

Are you allowed to overtake going into corners? I think that it's a good idea when this isn't allowed, at least in the Novice/Intermediate groups.

I've done a couple of bike trackdays where this is strictly forbidden and there were hardly any accidents, which is great. Other times I've done trackdays where it's everyone for themselves into each corner and people have gotten hurt or had their bikes damaged. There appears to be far more track stoppages due to the increased number accidents, which cuts down on track time.

Overtaking well before the corner, or on the way out of a corner is fine, it's just that now and again people get carried away blasting into corners on the inside line and the person in front cuts across, rightly so, for the apex and then the rider behind crashes into them. It seems to happen a lot in the Inters group.

Any thoughts on this?

Ernie most (if not all) trackdays I've been to have had strict rules about overtaking like you describe. Some even rule out some of the shorter straights. For a track day with people of all abilities I think this is a good idea. In fact forget the abilities bit, for a trackday it is what it is all about. It's not about racing it's about playing with your car in a safe environment.

In the Uk, most companies say that if you do overtake, you have to do it the left. Seeing that every track except Rockingham is clockwise, then it makes sense for the faster car go around the outside to be safe.

I wish we had these rules on the last trackday i was on.
You could see guys overtake on the inside in corners.. and the same ppl complained about ppl where to slow around the track.. I dont think they have anything todo near a racetrack at all.

Same guy almost rearended me in the corner, and started waving his fist to me, like it was my fault.. ah well..

Originally posted by Hobson
No trackday company would let and uninsured driver/car near the track - too risky.

I don't think tax is a major issue, but obviously an MOT is essential.

Your normal road insurance in not vaild on a track... you can get policys that cover trackday use, but its rarly standard.

As for an MOT... I've never heard any being asked to show an MOT at an event.


Alex

I just want to thank everyone for all this info. I plan to take part in some next year, and all this is a great help!!

Now, can anyone show me the racing line???

I believe Autosport do a track guide for club racers, including track details (racing line, braking points etc) of all tracks in the UK, and some foreign tracks.

Caan't remember the price at the moment, but a worthy investment.

Guys all good stuff on here...

As a professional ARDS Instructor it is great to see so many enthusiastic and grown-up attitudes to getting out on track and enjoying the 'skill' of driving.

We often meet too many who do think they are the next Shcumacher and will not listen.

I picked up a couple of points that I can add my three pennyworth to:
1. Helmets are compulsory on ALL track days, however unlike if you are going racing you do not have to have an MSA approved lid. Having said that, your head is NOT replacable! do not skimp on the purchase of a helmet. It could save your life!. Motorcyle helmets are fine for track days. Often they offer better visibility as the apperture on full face bike helmets is wider. Although if you are serious about your on track exploits, an adequate full face from Demon Tweeks or Grand Prix racewear will £170. Personally I prefer full face, especially if you are in open cars as they give more facial protection. Even in a closed car there is plenty that is hard if your chin, nose or teeth are in impact with it!

2. There is an official 'Circuit Guide' which is available from www.circuitdriver.com
Treat this as a 'guide' While it is well written and a good starting point, it is not necessarily the 'bible'. There is nothing better than experience.

3. Quite a few people are put off from taking part in track days because of the 'supposed' bad attitiude of fellow track users.
If a driver were behaving in the manner that was mentioned earlier on this thread (i.e. diving up the inside in corners and complaining about slower cars) on a day I was running. He would be talked to, warned of his attitude and if it persisted, told to go home.
ALL properly run track days these days WILL NOT COMPROMISE on safety and this in the view of most is absolutely correct. You should enjoy the day, learn something from it... and above all drive home in the car you drove to the circuit in.
(Assuming that was the one you used on circuit, as quite a few do trailer their cars these days!)

4. Track days are THE only way
(other than racing/testing for which you need a race licence)
that you can enjoy a performance car the way it should be driven.
I obviously will have a biassed opinion here, but I do strongly recommend either using the Instrucotrs provided or hire your own for the day. You will learn so much more, more quickly and more safely, with someone in the car who can point out the correct lines and techniques for fast, smooth and safe driving.

5. Single seaters on track days.
Some organisers will run a single seater/open wheeled session if there are enough cars. As these are becoming more popular I can see this becoming more commonplace. Obviously the etiquette has to be policed even more carefully as there will be an increased speed differential also the safety issue of interlocking open wheels can be a serious issue.

Anyway that's enough from me.
If you have not taken part in a track day.
DO IT!
You are bound to get hooked!
Better to say you have tried it, rather than I WISH I had tried it.

I can also guarantee that a Track Day, taken sensibly, will make you smoother, safer and faster on circuit...
and a safer driver on the public roads, by making you appreciate your limits and the cars limits.


SEE YOU IN MY MIRRORS :-)
Very best regs
Steve L

Very interesting reading but can someone please comfirm once and for all about the 'no insurance and tax' concerns?

Ive spoken to a few people who have track specific cars, and trailer them to and from the events, and all say they do not have any insurance or road tax for the vehicles. My trackday specific car is almost ready (just running the engine in) to go out onto a trackday, it'll be my first proper track day in years and the first in this car so I'll be purely a novice track driver. After speaking to people about what they do about insurance, I was going to follow them and run the car without insurance/tax but have an MOT at least. And the car is fully prepared to MSA common Safety regulations. So do we need insurance or not?
I was also wondering not about car insurance but personal insurance for the driver incase anything should happen -god forbid- touch wood etc? Do the trackday organisers have anything to offer on the day or is this something most poeple dont worry about or sort out for them selves?

Thanks
Paul

ONCE AND FOR ALL...
Your track car does not need insurance.
Your track car does not need TAX.
Your track car does not need MOT.
(however it should be road/trackworthy) Would you want to drive something quickly if a wheel were likely to fall off!!?
I would not like to be behind you when it does..
hmm come to think of it..
I have been behind when wheels have fallen off.
1 x TVR Vixen wheel !!
1 x Bugati wheel !!

Your personal insurance is up to you.
Track days will not be covered in your life insurance unless you let them know specifically, then they take a view on the risk.

Best regs
Steve L

thanks for clearing it all up.

Im am now Learned!

Now the (ex) Octagon circuits are a little more settled, the Track Day dates are starting to come through.
Let's hope more people take to the circuit for the fun and adrenalin that is circuit driving.

Most questions have been laid to rest here, but if anyone still has any worries about taking the plunge...
JUST ASK!

Happy Tracking

best regs
Steve L

Is it forbidden to use laptimers at all track days? One of trh reasons for attending is to improve driving smoothness and track speed and I hoped to instal a data logger/laptimer so I could see where the instructor and my technique differed.

The problem with test (as opposed to track) days is that you can't have an instructor in the car with you so he can't see where you're going wrong.

Any suggestions?

Michael Mylonas

I'm not sure. Ring up the organiser and ask them.

MOST definitely
it is FORBIDDEN to use any method of timing on track days.
It is not the organisers being unhelpful, it is because of the Public Liability insurance.

Each organiser has to have about £10 million cover.
This would be negated if it were proven that there was someone timing the driving.

I agree it is useful to see if the instruction has worked.
Timing is obviously the bottom line, but you know as a driver when you are improving. If a corner feels better by using the advice of instructor or your driving input feels better through advice then the times should just prove this.

I work with drivers in car on track days, then use corner critique and video footage on test days along with telemetry and lap times. This mix seems to work well.

Best regs
Steve L

Steve

Thanks for the explanation. Was wondering where you instructed (Silverstone by any chance?) and whether you did private sessions?

Michael - might br easier to deal with this via email: mmylonas@3serjeantsinn.com

Regards

MM

Hi Michael
I instruct just about anywhere, but Sillystone is my local circuit.
I do a lot at Rockingham and Snet too.

I am freelance so am always up for rent!

I will send you some of my stuff.
Hope you find it useful.

Best regards

Steve Lewis

has been stated that timing is forbidden.best way to know if your going faster through a bend is to look at the revs as you exit.higher revs =faster through the bend

or just time it anyway ;)

alex

Originally posted by Ernie
Safety?

Are you allowed to overtake going into corners? I think that it's a good idea when this isn't allowed, at least in the Novice/Intermediate groups.
Any thoughts on this?

DEFINATELY NOT RECOMMENDED ON SAFETY GROUNDS!

AND ...."Once the stickers are fixed on you need to tape up your headlights – this really brings out the track-beast in the car – and then run through some safety checks, sometimes from a checklist provided".

Tape over the glass mirrors on your road bikes!

For info Chaps.
As an organiser and senior Instructor on some track days.
ANYONE found timing is sent home.
The reason for this is that if there is need to use the Public imdemnity insurance, (which all organisers and circuits need) and it is proven that timing was taking place, then the insurance is void!

So please respect the organisers rules as they are in place for a reason.
Have fun, learn circuits and technique on track days, maybe even run in new race engines etc.
But full-on hot laps and timing should be left for test sessions, there are enough around. In this way then you can really see where you and your mota are in terms of competitivity.

Enjoy!...
Steps off soapbox :)

> it is FORBIDDEN to use any method of timing on track days.

Not strictly true PalmerSport did car timings on a HowFast trackday on the GT circuit for all cars and is now running a combined Trackday and HowFast day with individual timing (including a leaderboard) on one circuit and open session on the other.

See www.howfast.com

Yup Palmers are a law unto themselves.
They can be as they own the circuit and there is relatively little to hit.

Any independant track day organiser HAS to agree the no timing policy or the Public Indemnity insurance is void.

Palmers time their corporate 'billies' too.
You should see the end results!
One guy tried 90mph into a corner that even Just Wilson takes at 35mph apex speed.

That's what adding the time element does it sets up competition.
Track days are non competitive.
Test days and racing however is another matter.

Best regs
Steve L

Originally posted by Instructor
ONCE AND FOR ALL...
Your track car does not need insurance.
Your track car does not need TAX.
Your track car does not need MOT.


helloooo! Right i'm just a little bit concerned about insurance as from what i have read above u need it for track day witch is fair enuf but wot cover do u have dose it work like when u r on the road e.g if say somone knocks off your bumper or puts a dent in your door u clam,but how do u come off on a track day is it owners risk u just clam on your own insurance if u like? :rolleyes:

I refer you to the previous answer.
There are a goo dnumber of companies able to take premiums off you for track day cover.
An 'on-track' claim trying to allay specific responsibility I have yet to see!

If on doubt.
Don't do it.
You won't enjoy the day.

You don't actually need an MOT to go on track - lots of non road worthy cars use track days (i.e. pure track day cars, lack of lights, speedo etc). However, any car in a dangerous condition (i.e. bits hanging off, leaking oil on circuit etc), will be black flagged. There are no insurance requirement - you sign an indemnity with the track owners and/or track day organisers before going on track - any damage (to your own car, to a third party car which is clearly your fault, or to the track itself - i.e crash barrier, tarmac repairs etc) is down to you. Most track day organisers exclude open wheel single seaters from general track days.

Sorry everyone. When I posted my comments earlier today I had (rather stupidly) picked up the thread from the foot of page 1 rather than page 3 !!. Therefore my thoughts only duplicated those already made before me. Instructor & others had already made it perfectly clear that Insurance, MOT etc were not necessary.

You know the definition of an "expert" ?

"X" is the unknown quantity
&
"Spurt" is a drip under pressure !!

Tee hee
I've heard that before somewhere!
Steve L

I've got a question, I've never done it before but I'd like to...

Main thing I'm worried about is being a bit over cautious on the brakes and things, and someone going into the back of me...

Don't be, most circuits do a new to track sesion, you could also do a parade lap lo learn the track first without having to worry about being overtaken!

Another thing is, if your being shouted at, it means STOP WORKING ON YOUR CAR and get the hell of the track!

Oh, and check your wheel nuts between sesions, i've had several cars pull up with wobbly wheel with nuts missing and all the rest loose!

And Its a TRACK DAY not a RACE DAY, yeah you want to go hell for leather, but just remember you're not insured unless you've taken out extra insurance.

And at Combe all cars have to be road legal, so you need Mot and Tax, I was never asked for it, but for the price of an MOT it's worth it, if you can't afford an MOT you really shouldnt be doing track days anyway, could be very expensive if you hit someone else!!

One mor thing, if you got youre own helmet (I use my motorbike helmet, gold acu aproved) check you fit in the car, i'm 6 foot, and lets just say i couldn't move up or down!

Go for it.
New 'blood' is needed on track days.
If you have a car with any real power and performance, the track is the only place to explore the real potential of you and the motor.

Any professionally run day will go out of their way to welcome new boys (and girsl!).
Oh and obviously it's a good idea to take tuition!!

This way proven this weekend on a Noble day at Rockingham.
You wouldn't believe the number of people who shunned the 4 Instructors available. Fortunately they were often passed by those who did take advice :o)

Best regards
Steve

cheers for the help guys, so i can use a track specific car for track days without tax / insurance / mot just as long as its roadworthy, will need to get a sorn declaration done on the car

this no timings thing confuses me, i guess the racemaster days at brands dont count as test days as they gave timings to us for the single seaters session, 1m 11 being my best 6th / 13 drivers. Again cheers for the info as i was thinking of bringing a stopwatch in car and defanatley will not now.

cheers for the help guys, so i can use a track specific car for track days without tax / insurance / mot just as long as its roadworthy, will need to get a sorn declaration done on the car

this no timings thing confuses me, i guess the racemaster days at brands dont count as test days as they gave timings to us for the single seaters session, 1m 11 being my best 6th / 13 drivers. Again cheers for the info as i was thinking of bringing a stopwatch in car and defanatley will not now.

Racemaster days are not test or track days but a race school day which is run by Brands and you are only timed on the Formula Brands. The session length timing is usually done by the startline marshal ( usually myself) for Race Master or Trackmaster ( look for the white or black cowboy hat and that will be me)

Also can I add the hand held cameras, phones and sandwiches ( we have had to black flag a car for the passenger eating a sandwhich!!!!) or any hand held object are also a big no no on trackdays. If you want to film your days from on-board your car and bike make sure the camera is secure ( the pit lane team will check it and at Brands you will be asked to sign a media form)

ah! small world

i recently watched a documentary about skylines : these have in-built lap timers in the dash top computer, how do tracks deal with this at trackdays?

Track guides are now available at www.driversknow.co.uk/motorsport/trackside/trackGuides/

ah! small world

i recently watched a documentary about skylines : these have in-built lap timers in the dash top computer, how do tracks deal with this at trackdays?


Hammers!!!

As it says in the signiture....

If all else fails, Cheat!


lol

Whats the view on passengers? The reason why I ask is I'm thinking of doing a track day (Doningtons most likely) and I'm thinking of taking my blind friend along. I think it would be a great experience for him!

passengers are allowed, normally costs about an extra 20 quid, and bere in mind that donington dont hire out helmets for h&s reasons

I have my own anyway, I don't like hire helmets!

You don't get to hear too much about the airfield circuits options. I, having done one or two recently, can see why.

They offer the driver a variety of challenges but can be a tad bleek dependant on the conditions on the day.

I went to Abingdon in Oxfordshire earlier this month. Given that it was November and I nearly came home with a tan it was a great day. However the next time I went it monsoooooned! all day and the rain very nearly closed the circuit completely. The weather, given that this is good old blighty, should be a consideration. Especially if you drive without a roof.

The issue here is that although the airfield circuits offer a reesonable standard of tarmac in various configurations for the newby, the on site facilities can be, lets say, a little wanting.

At Abingdon, for example, you are using part of current MOD base. There is a chemicle toilet (x1) and a roach coach (Burger van) other than that there isn't much else to do other than drive.

So if you fancy doing one of these days, and the low price reflects what's on offer (£99 for the day at Abingdon), bare this in mind.

Go prepared for all weather climates and you wont go far wrong.

The circuit itself offers plenty. medium straights, fast bends, tight chicanes, change in grip surface, reasonalbe surface quality all the way round and a 1.5mile lap.

I went along with motorsport events. A very professional track day company that offer all the usual stuff. A good briefing in the morning before allowing man/woman and machine lose on the track. This includes the consented overtake rule. A must for track dayers especially if you want your machine to go home in the same shape it arrives in!

They marshall the circuit and include a trip back into the pits if you happen to spin. I thought this a bit of a pain at first. However it does give you a mo' to check the car over and contemplate where you went wrong. There's loads of run off, grass and tarmac for those who want to find the very edgew of the envelope! and fortunately not a lot at all for you to collide with should you get it wrong!

I would say that it takes a few lapes to get used to the cone layout for chicanes. You end up a little cone overloaded for a while. Bu once you have mastered the layout (5-10 laps usually) you can give it a good go.

Motorsprt events offer instruction too. They do charge but not extorsionately. So if you feel you need to better yourself there is help at hand.

All in all the airfield day isn't as god as a fully fledged circuit with all the mod cons. However for the first timer who wants to put a toe in the water, or should I say rubber the tarmac! it's not a bad place to start.

Take heed and remember the brolli!

Pootles. Team Fire Monkey ;)

Hi,

I am currently looking to book my first track day and I have a few questions I would like to ask.

Are there any tracks that:-

A - Suit certain cars? I ask because I have a 1.8 MX-5 which I appreciate will not be the quickest straight line car but should be fun in the corners.

B - Better for first timers? I.e. bigger run offs etc?

Also I can take the MX-5 or a new Mini Cooper - any ideas which would be the better choice?

Any other advice would be most appreciated!

Cheers, Martin.

Both cars are quite small so don't do Silverstone GP circuit

You haven't said where you are so thats not very helpful

Oulton Park & Cadwell Park are probably not very good due to small run-offs

Mallory is a one bend bottle circuit

Castle Combe is quite fast and has Quarry

Which leaves.....

....quite a few.

Sorry, forgot to say I live in Manchester but dont mind traveling to a circuit that would suit best.

I think the next nearest are donnington, mallory,Three sisters and Angalsy.

Think I will take the mx-5 as its RWD.

Thanks for the info so far. Appreciated.

Martin.

Three sisters is really a kart track and whilst I love Mallory it is basically all about one bend - Gerards.

As you live in God's own country (eg near Manchester) why not go to probably the best circuit in the country, Oulton park which has some weekend track days in Jan/Feb but make sure you do the Int circuit.

Any track is suitable for a novice provided you turn up with the right attitude and dont think you are Ayrton Senna's long lost brother, just build up speed gently and take some instruction.

If I had the choice I would use the MX5 because I prefer RWD.

Have fun

Kickstart

i have just cast an eye over your coments about tax mot insurance etc why! your not covering anything your insurance is void on a race circuit you would have to get specific track day cover and what would you want to tax or mot it for whos going to stop you on a race track and what if you crashed your just wasting time and money for no gain! its a track day just enjoy it

the reason why your should be mot'ed at least is - if your car breaks down every 5 minutes, causing a red flag every 5 minutes to tow you back to the pits..everyone is going to be very annoyed at you for wasting their track time. I know an mot isn't a guarentee that its going to stay in one piece, but it stands a better chance than a car without an mot and is a bag of old rusty nails.

Tax and insurance are not important. However..if you take your car uninsured onto a track, it makes you think twice about pushing that hard that you end up falling off the track. But, you do run the risk of some idiot who doesn't care and ends up crashing into you. Take insurance out if you really want, but then if you insure your road car, crash it, how you going to get home? how you going to get to work the next day? etc...

As a track day marshal can I add another point - towing eyes. Please ensure your pride and joy has one (at either end!).

If you breakdown you will need a tow back to the pits. Being towed around the track puts little strain on the towing eye, and most will get you back without problem.

But if you end up in the gravel you will need a strong tow point - that gravel fights back!

For road cars you may have a point fixed by the maker. Sometimes these are the screw-in type. If so either fit it before you go out, or at the least know how it works! Ensure it does screw in - the thread works and it is the right one for the car. The hole is normally covered by a lid on the bodywork - this keeps the grit out and stops the hook jamming when it is fitted. If you go into the gravel it may collect rubbish - so tape it/cover it fit the hook first.

Does your pride and joy have a low bumper/body kit? Does it cover the tow point? Check before you need to use it!

If you fall off and delay the day because we can't recover your car without damage we will inform those cooling their heels in the pits! Be warned!!