Lola T 60 & 62

Hi Everyone,
Allen Brown recommended this site to try and gather information on my Lola T60. I have owned the car 10 years after buying it from a friend, who had also owned it about 10 years, always as a roller without engine or trans. My friend bought it from an estate, and it came without history or chassis tag (had been removed for "safe keeping"). I know a little bit about these cars with the help of Robs Lamplough, who raced one from '66 to '68. There were only 12 built, and he remembers one owned by Bowlie Pittard (destroyed), one by John L'Amie (Ireland?), and one by Michele Daghorn (France).
I am hoping to figure out the history of mine, which appears to be an early T60. Is there anywhere that the chassis # would be stamped, other than the chassis plate? Does anyone remember one of these cars going to the states?

rkshanahan

rkshanahan.

Can only assist by telling you your car is not T60-SL-2 , as that car has been in Australia for many years.
After Midland Racing Partnership this car spent time in Nth.Ireland with Brian Nelson untill 1969 , when it went to D.A.Shells for sale and has been in Australia since at least 1978.

Perhaps you will get more answers on the other cars known and you can do a process of elimination.
Bryan.

There's a degree of complication here, because the T55 also got described as a T60 later in life, so I've included those here. Also, Midland Racing Partnership had so many that when someone's car is described as 'ex MRP' it's not always a lot of help. Also, variants on the T60, up to the T67 tend to get lumped together.

Anyway: here goes

T55 SL64/1 1964 for Midland Racing Partnership, retained 1965, driven
by David Hobbs/Jose Rosinski/Chris Amon/Paul Hawkins/Roy Pike. 1966 Bill Jones for Phillip Robinson. 1967? 1968: Tony Charnell 1969: Charnell

T55 SL64/2 1964 for John Willment Racing, driven by Paul Hawkins. 1965: Willment for Jo Schlesser and Tony Hegbourne. 1966-67: Not known
1968 Geddes Yeates as F.Ford

T60 SL60-1 1965: MRP: Richard Attwood/Chris Amon/Paul Hawkins;
1966: MRP: Beckwith; Gardner (Albi) sold to 'Baker' for Harry Stiller

T60 SL60-2 1965: MRP: Tony Maggs/Frank Gardner/Paul Hawkins/Jo Bonnier/Chris Amon/Richard Attwood 1966: MRP: Frank Gardner/Paul Hawkins 1967: Probably the car for sale by MRP in April. 'ex Gardner'

T60 SL60-3 1965 MRP: John Surtees/Frank Gardner 1966: MRP Spare car

T60 SL60-4 1965: Eric Offenstadt [late in season] 1966: Offenstadt
1967: Peter Marchesi [F3]; 1968: Brian Cullen [FL] 1969: Brian Cullen [FL] 1970: Trevor Scarrat [Monoposto]

T60 SL60-5 1965/6: Not known. 1967: Steve Thompson [F3] 1968: Steve Thompson [FL]; 1969: Steve Thompson. 1970 not known, though I suspect retained by Thompson. 1971: Chris Featherstone [Monoposto]

T61 SL61-6 1966: MRP: Richard Attwood/David Hobbs/Alan Rees. 1967: Ian Ashley [F3]

T62 SL62-8 1966: MRP John Surtees

T64 SL62-8 Not known before summer 1967, though perhaps the Pittard car [see below]. 1967 Robs Lamplough [F2] 1968 John L'Amie [FL]

Cars with unknown chassis numbers.
Brian Nelson [1968-69] A T60 'ex Attwood'
Chris Featherston [1969-70] A T60 used in Monoposto. Wrecked. The ex Thompson car is bought to replace it
Boley Pittard A T64 used in Italian F3 in early 1967. Pittard died of burns after the car caught fire on the grid, or in a race warm up.

Cars with problem model numbers:
The T67 This was an F3 variant of the 64. Three built in 1967: All sold to Italy so one may be the Pittard car.
Michel Dagorne races one in F3

Dave Morgan races a 'T62' in F3 in 1968, but it was apparently bought in Italy so may have been a T67 rather than the ex Surtees T62

Guy Edwards races a T62 in F3 in 1969. I suspect this is the Morgan car.

Chris

Chris.
Your unknown chassis number car is SL-2.
The owner of the Lola untill about 2 years ago had lengthy correspondence with Brian Nelson , at that time in 1988 at an address in County Down, Northern Ireland , in which Brian Nelson advises he purchased car from David Baker at Midland in Oct.1965 less eng. and box. Nelson fitted ford twin cam and mk.5and ran in some clubevents at end 1965.
He states at a meeting at Kirkistown in Nov. 1965 he hit barrier after running of road, damagingl.f. wheel, by the time he recieved new wheels from Lola the season was over.
Car ran in that form in Libre events untill sold to D.A.Shells in 1969.
In the letter he advised Don Black he still had 2 spare wheels , this in 1988 , I believe Don Black purchased the wheels.
Bryan.

Welcome rkshanahan.

Chris.
Just trying to compare your call out on SL-2 , as against Brian Nelson's letter, and it does'nt work .
We also have a letter from Lola 25-1-78 , in which they advise from their records that Brian Nelson owned the car at one stage, but don't specify a date .
Perhaps Nelson got his dates wrong when trying to remember back 20 or so years, if your trail in firm all the way into 1967.
The car does carry the chassis plate.
Bryan.

Chris
Starting your list with T55s makes sense, but doesn't tell the full story. For that you need to go back to the FJ Mk5a, of which nine were built for 1963.
With the change of formula for 1964, one of these was rebuilt for F3 and relabelled T53, and four more converted to F2 spec as T54s. To add to the confusion, these were usually called T55s, though a T55 WAS built for F2 later in 1964. On top of that, another converted 5a was rebadged T55, and so was one of the T54s...
All this background is necessary because I believe the Willment car, SL2/64, was a T54, not a T55. My records show this being campaigned by Paul Tomlin in FL in 1966 and Geddes Yeates in FL in 1967.
64/2 (or 2/64) was a T55 converted from a Mk5a (without, it seems, having been a T54!)

Turning to the T60s, I have Mac Dagorne racing SL60-2 in 1967 F3, but am more comfortable with Nelson having it at that stage
SL60-5 was an MRP car (of course) raced by Hawkins in early 1965, and by Thompson from 1966

I have Ashley's F3 car listed as a T62 (ex-Attwood) - not the T61

Finally, Keith Laney bought a T60 in the UK and raced it in New Zealand around 1972. It was later sold to Australia. Is this SL60-2?
Bryan?

Bryan

SL60-2 is firm for 1965/1966 if yopu believe F1R. The 1967 atrribution was specualtive based on MRP having an ex Gardner car for sale, and this one seeming to have a fair amount of Gardner in its history. So, we could fit Nelson in on chassis 2, which takes care of another gap on Allen's F5000 database in 1969. Any suggestions on what car they might have been selling?

David:
Thanks for the extra detail. Agree that we should include Mk5s and will post what I have soon. Might the Dagorne car have been 67-2?

Chris

David

Going back to my notes I see that for the Willment T60 I have 'rebuilt from Winkelmann Mk5A'. I don't have many notes on T54-Mk5s beyond what's in F1R

BRJ 57 rebuilt from Mk5A for MRP: Attwood 1964
BRJ 58 similar MRP spare car 1964
BRJ 59 similar MRP for Maggs 1964

I have 1966 R.Jennings [Bob Jennings, who was also selling the Mo Nunn 41?] selling '1964 Lola ex Maggs, raced three times since sold by MRP' so presumably BRJ 59

Chris

Got to say that whilst this isn't my particular field of interest I'm really pleased that people are able to swap this info and let others learn from it at the same time.

Chris...

"Dave Morgan races a 'T62' in F3 in 1968, but it was apparently bought in Italy so may have been a T67 rather than the ex Surtees T62"

Don't know if this helps, but here is Dave Morgan at Silverstone in April 68. In case it doesn't show up on screen, the name on the side is Bowdown Racing. Memory isn't pukka, but I seem to remember it was red over dark blue.

Bryan, Chris, and David;
Thanks for the prompt reply. I have some additional info that might help fill the gaps:
Robs Lamplough reports he purchased four unsold T60-64's from Lola at the end of the '66 season, in partnership with Frank Williams. Robs kept the ex-Surtees car for himself and later sold it on to John L'Amie, so the T64 SL62-8 and T62 SL62-8 are the same car.
Of the other three cars, one was sold to Eric Offenstadt (F2 with BRM engine), one to Boley Pittard, and one to Michel Dagorne. Robs is unsure of the chassis #s of these three.
SL62-11 was in the US with Barry Blackmore and recently sold. I inspected this car and details on the chassis led me to believe my car is an earlier version (m. cylinder mounts, steering rack height, front rocker arm pivots)
I have tried to sort out the different models, but the only Lola books I can find are a mess. The Mk5's have a tube chassis and outboard front suspension, the T60's have a steel monocoque chassis and inboard front suspension, but what did the T55's have? How could Lola "rebuild" a tube chassis car into a monocoque car?
Rob
Rob

Originally posted by rkshanahan
The Mk5's have a tube chassis and outboard front suspension, the T60's have a steel monocoque chassis and inboard front suspension, but what did the T55's have? How could Lola "rebuild" a tube chassis car into a monocoque car?
I didn't say the Mk5s (or the Mk5as, which were a different model) were rebuilt as T60s - they became T53s, T54s or T55s
I did say it was confusing

Dave,
You are ceretainly right about the 'confusing' bit. What I was tryjing to do was sort out the photos I have found by model. It would seem that the T53-55's are also a tube frame with an outboard front suspension, but I was just not sure. This would make it easy to sort out the T60's in side photos by the lack of front trailing links, as in the photo posted by DaveM.
Rob

My apologies, I think my typo of 'the Willment T60' being rebuilt from an ex Winkelmann Mk5 is causing some confusion. It should be 'the Willment T55 [SL64-2]' which would make sense.

I think from the info about Lamplough buying four cars at the end of 1966, we can get an idea of which chassis those were.
We know that Lamplough kept 64-8 the ex Surtees car, before passing it on to L'Amie
We know that the Brian Cullen car 60-4 was the ex Offenstadt car.
We know that all the other cars up to 64-8 have some kind of history that doesn't leave room for either Pittard or Dagorne, except for 60-1 and 60-3, which have no history (so far) after the end of 1966. This would tally with them disappearing to the continent, and perhaps, in the case of the Pittard car, being destroyed.

If the build was 12 cars we are left with four cars, 9-12, which could be the three Italian F3s plus one other

Do we know what the history of 62-11 was in the US?

Chris

rkshanahan

What was the name of the estate from which your friend purchased the car? Where was it [whereabouts in USA I guess]

Chris

Hi Rob

I told you this would work!

Allen

David.
Keith Laney sold T60/SL-2 to Australian film producer Matt Carroll,who is a Lola /Lotus nut,car ended up with Don B
Black , changed hands about 2 years ago to Robert Tweedie.
Bryan.

Ta vm Bryan
I never knew the origin of the Laney car - it raced only in small events in NZ (and didn't do much good in them!)

I think Peter Denty has the the Chris Featerstone car, and hopes to resore it "one day"

Sorry about the "orrible" spelling, but only just got up !!

Chris,
I have notes that list the estate as that of Earl Anderson in Texas. There was also a story about the car being run at the Indy 500, which I dismissed as impossible. Then a friend pointed out just last week that people would enter bogus cars for the Indy 500 just to get the package of passes that came with an entry. If this highly unlikely scenario is true, I suppose there is a chance that the historian at Indy would have a record of it. I will give it a try.
I will also see if I can find out anything about 62-11's history here in the states.
Rob

When I aquired a T60 in the mid 80's I was given a list chassis numbers with the original customer, the colour as it left the factory, and if it was F2 or F3. Mine had been converted to use as a Formula Super Vee and the rear of the chassis around the engine had been cut off (bodged). The tub looked like a steel copy of a Lotus 25 and didn't have bag tanks. The inner parts of the tub was coated with a fuel tank sealant and left to itself. I sold the remains to a guy in the N.W. of the USA and thats the last I heard of it.
This is the list I was given and I reproduce it here without further comment!
60/1 Lythgoe,F3, Blue
60/2 MRP, F2, Blue
60/3 MRP, F2, Blue
60/4 Offendstadt, F2 BRM, Black
60/5 Lythgoe,F3, Red
61/6 MRP,F2, Blue
62/7 Dragoni, F3, Red
62/8 Surtees, F2, Blue
62/9 Dragoni, F3, Yellow
62/10 Williams, F3, Red
62/11 Williams, F3, Green
62/12 Williams, F3, Yellow

NB another note says that 60/1 was 1.5" shorter.

Hope this doesn't further muddy the issue
Roger

Roger,
Thanks for an amazing piece of information! One of the funny things about the info from Robs Lamplough is that he had no record of the chassis #'s of the cars that passed through his hands, but he did remember the colors:
Dagorne-Yellow
Pittard-Red
Lamplough-Blue
Offendstadt-Black
Do you remember the chassis # of your car? Since my chassis is still intact, I can eliminate your chassis # as a possibility for my car. I will also try to strip some paint off my bodywork and see if I can determine the original color.
Rob

This is a fantastic piece of information, which seems to open a few questions, even as it solves some.
I'm puzzled as to why [and how] at the end of 66 Lamplough sells Eric Offenstadt a BRM engined car he's been using since autumn 1965. Offenstadt has the only BRM motor in a Lola, so his chassis is pretty distinctive.
On the other hand, there is the reference to Frank Williams here, whom Lamplough says was in on the deal. Were the three cars 10/11/12 part of the batch that was purchased, or was this FW up to something else later.
And is Dragoni really Dagorne or an agent for the Italian market?

Chris

Chris,
My mistake-Lamplough bought Offendstadt's car and sold it on to John Cullen in '66-'67. Sorry, but I am trying to sort through ten years of scribbled notes.
Rob

Rob

That makes more sense! It's also interesting because it suggests that the Marchesi car in 1967 might be something other than 60-4. [My attribution of the Marchesi-Offenstadt linkage comes from a single magazine source. Though I'll have to check my notes on Cullen's ownership]

Do we have any experts on mid '60s F3 who could suggest who had chassis 7, 10,11,12?

Chris

Chris.
This is probably going to make it more confusing ,however.
I have a set of trails from I think Alan Putt re. BRJ-51 which is over here,the trails are for BRJ-51 through to BRJ-58.

BRJ-57 MK5A MRP 1963
MRP 1964
then rebuilt as type 54,
then rebuilt as type 55 ,
1965 Ecurie Lola-Holbay [J. BRUYEX ] ???? SIC.
1966 GEORGES TAQUET.

BRJ-58 , MK5A
1963 Winkleman Racing.
1964 rebuilt as SL2/64.
Bryan.

Rob.
I don't know if the magazine ever went to the U.S.
In the Feb. 1966 edition of a U.K. magazine titled Motor Racing , is an excellent track test article , 2 pages incl. photos of F2 and F3 Lola T60s.

For info. only , apparently the difference ,apart from eng /gearbox , between T54 and T55 appears to revolve around the alteration from T54 4 stud rear wheels to T55 6 stud rear wheels.
Bryan. I know this doesn't assist you.

Bryan,
Thanks, I will try to find a copy of the Motor Racing article.
I was just trying to add things up, and it all makes better sense if the Lamplough/Williams deal involved 5 cars, not 4, with Robs getting the used cars 60-4 and 62-8, and Frank getting the last three cars 62-10,11,12. Then 60-4 goes to Cullen, 62-8 to L'Amie, 62-10 to Pittard, and 62-12 to Dagorn ( these last two based on color). Could the cars sold to Dragoni (62-7 and 62-9) be the 'Italian F3' cars?
Based on the tachometer and brakes on my car, Robs felt it was an F3 car, not F2. That would eliminate 5 of the chassis #'s.
I have e-mailed Robs and asked him to look all this over and comment.
Does anyone know how to contact Peter Denty to check on the chassis # of his car?

Rob

Rob.
Peter Denty[Racing].
Mill House, East Wretham,nr.Thetford,
Norfolk IP24 1QS,United Kingdom.
Tel. 01953498529.
Fax. 01953498154.

Can't resist , don't you just love some of these U.K addresses , for heavens sake nr. Thetford , what does that mean , yes I know, near,over here that could mean 500 miles.

Bryan.

Rob
I'm afraid my T60 didn't have a chassis plate by the time it arrived with me. The general consensus was that it was one of the Williams F3 cars, based on talks with variuos bods including one of the MRP chaps. Interestingly when I bought the car I phoned Lola who still had a guy working part time after retirement who had been involved in building the cars originaly and he proved very helpful. What I couldn't do was prove it was an F2, a shame as I had an SCA sitting in the workshop.
Roger

This is presumably 62-8/64-8, as it is driven by John L'Amie. The venue is Rufforth in October 67.

Fellows
I started this one and have of course seen Rob Shanahans excellent example in SD.
I have personally owned 3 of these cars all these years ago
62/12 F3 Yellow, New Car purchased winter 66/67 which I sold new to a Michel Daghorn Paris, incl Cosworth MAE

64/8 F2 Dark Blue which I purchased as having done one Race Karlskoga F2 Dvr John Surtees: Hewland Mk7 6 speed + LSD. Raced 1967 fitted Lotus 'Twin Cam' 1600cc in many F2 European Championship events + scored only 1 Championship point (6th place Jarama?) Also many F.Libre in UK and Eire.
Sold to John L'Amie end of season

60/4 F2 Black Bought from Eric Offenstat incl BRM 1000cc in 1967. Sold to Cullen 1967 less engine.

I was involved with the purchase of 62/10 F3 Red which Frank Williams definately sold to Boley Pittard and in which he was killed at Monza (left one of the fuel caps off, fuel surged forward under braking and caught fire- I believe on impact with barrier/wall?)

62/11 F3 Green Cosworth MAE I recall this machine and colour since these 3 F3 cars the last were a 'package' deal jointly purchased with Frank Wlliams.

I recently spoke to Frank(within past 5 years) who recalls Boley's accident but does recall the other car.

To answer Chris T's question is that Rob Shanahan had forgotten my 'trading' the Offenstat car and must have confused it with one of the 4 cars that Frank and I bought.

Offenstat and I were also regular F3 dicers in those days(Monaco,1967)as well as doing F2. The car was also on a carnet as I recall and had to be taken out of France otherwise pay a heavy Customs penalty (Circa 60% in those days + lodging a bank guarantee)

My 64/8 was easily distinguishable with its original bodywork as it had two enormous aluminimium air intake louvres on top of where your knees sit.
A very good Surtees Mod!!

Does anyone know where this one ended up? I still have some good photo's of it.
ROBS LAMPLOUGH

All.

I am reasearching other cars , but in Autosport Aug. 8 1969, the Mondello report lists both Brian Nelson and Brian Cullen in Lola T60 t/c.
So that takes care of 60-2 and 60-4 in Ireland end of 1969.

Bryan.

Following on from above post, A/S page 46 oct-23-1969,photo and report of Featherstone in ex. MRP Lola T60 at Castlecombe, this presumably is the car Chris refers to as being wrecked and maybe the car retained by Peter Denty.
Pity we can't get a number on it at this stage , so as to eliminate another entity.
Bryan.

Bryan,
I called Peter Denty Racing, and though Peter was not in, I was told that he does indeed have a Lola T60, but that he would have to get back to me with the chassis #. I sent a fax as a reminder, as well. Hopefullly we will hear something soon.
I took down my bodywork out of the attic and scraped it down. My nose section was originally yellow, but the two side pieces were originally blue, so something has been replaced. If I had to bet, I would say it is more likely the nose was replaced, as I can't imagine a shunt that would damage both sides and not do major damage to the monocoque. If my car was originally blue and an F3 this presents a problem--the only blue F3 car appears to be 60-1, which Roger's notes identify as being 1.5" shorter. On the assumption that that referred to wheelbase, I put the suspension on my car and measured its wheelbase, which seems to be around 89"-90" (hard to be exact with things not bolted on securely). My spec. sheet from Lola quotes 88", so I don't think my car is short wheelbase.
This only leaves F2 cars in blue--60-3, 61-6, and 62-8. Robs thought my car was an F3 based on its 10,000rpm tach (F2 would have 12,000) and his recollection that his car (62-8) had bigger brakes. Can anyone else think of a good way to distinguish an F3 from an F2? My car also has mounts on the outside of the tub for the big Lucas 'black bomb' fuel injection pump, but its possible they all did. I also feel my car is an earlier version than 62-11 based on detail differences on the tub. 62-11 just looked more evolved, with better sealing around the master cylinder mount and a cleaner installation of the front bulkhead.
Rob

Welcome Robs! Great to see you here.

Allen

Yes I agree, welcome Robs!

I think this is Surtees in a T60 at Oulton in '65.

Thanks folks for the welcome. It just started with me trying to solve the identity problem on Rob Shanahans car which of course was of great interest to me and still is.
I have one further piece of info which some time ago I copied to Rob S.
It is that as an impoverished F3 driver I moved into rented accommodation in Adam & Eve Mews just off Ken High St in Jan 1966.
It was from there that looking for gainful employ the Eric Broadley offered me a job during the annual Racing Car Show in Olympia, just down the road. I helped man the stand but in my spare time went around the other exhibitors stands. During the course of this I collected brochures, information and specification sheets from all of the racing Car Manufacturers. Most of these originals I retain today.
They run to many hundreds of pages and I did check and discover that I still have the Lola hand out sheet titled
"FORMULA II CAR, TYPE 60 -SPCIFICATION"...................................
I would be happy to share this information with genuine historians etc however I am not quite sure nor have the capacity to go about the task? Any ideas?

I notice that the hand out has been altered by hand on the rim widths for the car.
Also the engine quoted are either BRM or Cosworth SCA. Hence I would assume Rob S's car could have been set up with fuel injection in '65 or '66 for the BRM (from memory there were only 10 fuel injected Cosworth SCA engines all built in 1966 and I'm sure that 64/8 was one of these. It also had had deep blue sides Rob. Incidently they reputedly gave 140-144BHP from 1000cc!! at 10800 rpm
Does anyone know what L'Amie did with 64/8.
The Lola Spec sheet quotes the car Fitted with Girling brakes front 10" and rear 9.5" dia.
It certainly sounds as if Rob S' car is this one or one of the other MRP F2's cars since its probably F2 and blue. The only other way it could have Lucas 'Bomb' is if someone used it in SCCA Formula B with a 1600cc Vegantune TC.
From memory the MRP F2 cars were all with Carburettored Cosworth SCA. So maybe it is my old Car after all!! I hope so it couldn't be in better hands.

Without saying anything other than I was extremely lucky, I believe that I never had any accidents in some 20+ races. At least I cannot recall any - a common driver situation!! I'm sure someone will come in with a photo of me upside down somewhere and I only make the point as I believe I sold the car with its original nose.
Of course I would be delighted if Rob S' car turned out to be my old 64/8. Perhaps the contemporary car in which I had the most fun. It was simple , fast, and a joy to drive.

ROBSL

Hi Robs

Your name has also come up in conversation on the Lotus 35 (http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=41138&perpage=25&highlight=Lamplough&pagenumber=3) thread. Do you still own the Lotus 35 you had in 2000? Either way, I'm sure they'd love to know more about it.

Thanks

Allen

Allen,
Affirmitive
RobsL

Hi everyone,
I am wondering if the fact that my chassis has mounts for the Lucas 'Black Bomb' fuel pump is significant. I always assumed that all the cars got them, but FI wasn't allowed in F3, and it sounds like the early F2 cars ran carbs as well. When I hear back from Peter Denty and the owner of 62-11 I will ask if their cars have the mounts. I will also post pictures of the mounts so you can see what I am talking about.
Rob

OK, someone is going to have to help me figure out how to post a picture. I have reduced the picture size to 320 x 240 pixels (jpeg format), but when I click the browse button, go to the folder, and double click on the photo, nothing happens. Any hints?
Rob

If you have probs, try e-mailing the jpeg to me and I will try to upload it for you. info@andrewkitson.com

Gents,

Just in case you had not already come across this car and web link:

http://www.race-cars.com/carsold/lola/t62011/t62011ss.htm

Would appear to be one of the three cars sold by Robs and Frank Williams but not much history offered !

Bryan
I believe I raced 64/8 in Pheonix Park, Eire in '67. Had a race long dice with John Watson who was in my old Brabham BT 16 (ex Denny Hulme Honda powered F2, fitted with Twin cam Lotus). Pouring with rain and plenty of Giraffes watching from the Zoo!
The Irish lads really took to the Lolas.
RobsL

Hi Everyone,
I had an interesting day today--recieved a reply from Joe Cavaglieri, the man who restored and just sold 62-11. He confirmed that the car was originally green but he preffered the dark blue. He also confirmed that the car had no fuel pump mounts on the outside of the tub. Joe also said the car came to the states early on in its life and was raced by a Joe Scuria. The car has been sold to a new owner here in California.
I am thinking that these fuel pump mounts are significant, now that I know only a few of the cars would have been fuel injected. The mounts are hard riveted on to the tub and match the rest of the chassis in construction--I am convinced they are original. I have also seen photos of another car with the pump in the same location. I will be most interested to hear whether Peter Denty's car has them as well.
Bryan, is there any chance you could find out if 60-2 has them? They are two threaded bosses on the outside of the tub, beside the engine on the right side. The lower body has two holes to expose them. I tried to post photos and failed, hopefully Andrew will have more luck with them.
Which cars would have been equipped with fuel injection as original?

Rob

Two answers here,

Rob, pleased to meet you , I am going in the other direction , and keep bumping into your name in the T100 Lola which you ran , rather than the T62.
The Irish lads as you put it seemed very much to like quite a few classy racing cars , from Lola to Lotus to Brabham BT30's to Chevron and March.

Many years ago a chap in Sydney imported 2 Brabhams out of Ireland, one we traced to being the ex. Dr. Roger Willoughby 1100cc supercharged hillclimb car which had started life as , the Radio London car of Liane Engleman.
The other we never really sorted out , but came to the conclusion it was a BT16 , and not as the other car a BT15,
ch.no. F3-25-65.
It is truly amazing the lives some of these cars lead.

Rob.
I telephoned John Masala , who is doing the work on T60-2 , and while he could not go and check, he was pretty sure the car DID NOT HAVE the fuel bomb mounts, this car ran an S.C.A. and the first year I believe they were on carbs. but I stand corrected , and then the 2nd year went to injection, so as new it would not have required mounts.

Re. your tachometer , whilst what Rob has said is perfectly true , please allow for the fact that the car has probably been through many sets of hands , and it may well have been swapped to someone who needed a 12000 unit at some point in time .

Hope this assists.

Bryan.

Rob
Just another thought. If your car had injection then there should be a hole in the dash for an additional instrument. The fuel pressure gauge.
Roger

Rob./Roger.

The car may also have had the same as my BT35 which is injected , i.e. rare as whatever , 2 dual guages , 1 for oil press./ temp and one for fuel press/ oil temp.

Bryan.

Originally posted by rkshanahan
I tried to post photos and failed, hopefully Andrew will have more luck with them.
Rob
OK Rob, let's try to post these photos for you. Hope this works. First one -holes.

Second one shows the mounts.

Bryan/Roger,
Thanks for your help on this point. I checked my car and it has 4 small gauges for oil temp., water temp., oil press., and fuel press. The fuel press. gauge is 0-10 psi. and seems to match the other gauges, but if it were replaced back in '67 I wouldn't be able to tell. I checked my photos of 62-11 and it has the same arrangement, so I imagine that F2 and F3 had the same arrangement with different scale fuel press. gauges.

I was dissapointed to see in the photos of 62-11 that it does indeed have Lucas FI fuel pump mounts on its chassis, despite the recollection of the restorer, so I guess the F3 cars had them as well. It seems to me that maybe only cars built after the advent of FI would have had them, say from 60-4 on. I will be most interested to hear from Mr. Denty.

Thanks, everyone, for all your help on this! I have learned more in the last week than in the previous 10 years!

Rob

Andrew,
Thanks for posting those photos for me. The first one shows the holes in the body work panel, which line up under the rear carb in a Lotus Twin-Cam installation. The second photo shows how the mounts are attached to the tub. These match exactly with the photos I have of 62-11.

Rob

Rob.

My BT535 runs Lucas injection as I stated , but the std. fuel pressure on these model Lucas units is 120-140 p.s.i.

Maybe someone can advise if the same pressure range was used on the 1.0 litre SCA and BRM units.

Bryan.

Bryan,
I should have been more conplete in my explanation about the fuel pressure gauge. Carbs run from 2-7 psi fuel pressure and Lucas FI runs 150 psi., but the gauges look identical with the scale being the only difference. If someone converted an F2 car to a Twin-cam, they would just replace the fuel pressure gauge with the lower scale unit.

Something else that was pointed out to me is that the drive for the 10,000rpm tach is 2:1 and the drive ratio for the 12,000rpm is 4:1, so the two are not interchangeable. Someone converting an F2 car to a Twin-cam would most likely have just changed the tach rather than trying to convertt the drives on the engine.

Rob

Have heard from Dave Morgan who recalls his car was the Pittard car. Seems strange to think that anything salvagable came from that inferno! Does anyone have info on that crash?
ROBSL

Originally posted by ROBSL
Have heard from Dave Morgan who recalls his car was the Pittard car. Seems strange to think that anything salvagable came from that inferno! Does anyone have info on that crash?
ROBSL From memory I don't think it was a crash. The car caught fire on the grid.EVERYONE wore fireproof overalls after that.

I cannot remember any of the details of what happened to Boley at the time, except that he lived on for some time but a high percentage of his body was burnt.
I was not there but Jurg Dubler, Mike Knight, Chris Craft and Alan Rolinson all were and I could ask any of them.
I was not sure if there was a crash or not but the fire happened on going out on warm up for the final.
In those days we did not wear belts but if the fuel cap was left open(which I recall it was) then the surge would have caused the fuel to surge forward on braking for the first corner, the fuel would have gotton on the front wheels and it would have been like driving in the wet.

My point is that the car would surely have burnt out and that it is unlikely that Morgan could have repaired that car and been racing it 6 months later and complaining as he is now remembers saying that the car was 'twisted' when he brought it from Frank.
The Italien authorities always hang onto the cars involved in fatal accidents for ages.
A more likely possibility is that Frank sold Morgan one of the other two 'red' T60's that he had bought in Italy? They dont seem to appear anywhere else.
Morgan will call me when he returns from US and I will ask.
ROBSL

Robsl.
I am aware that this is completely off thread but as you speak to Dave Morgan,would you be kind enough to advise him that his BT35-8 is alive and very well in Australia.

Thanks Bryan.

From Sheldon 'bible'; XVI Coppa del,Autodromo di Monza-4 Jun 1967-2 12lap heats+ 35 laps final Final must have been longest ever F3 race?-125miles.
Boley Pittard finished 10th in heat.Shown under retirements in final as '0 laps-fatal fire'.As I remember they were topping up the cars with fuel on the grid,so filler cap left open seems a likely scenario.

I recieved an e-mail from Peter Denty today, and it turns out he owns both 60-5 and 62-10. Appearently, 60-5 is the ex-Thompson, ex-Featherstone, red F3 car and 62-10 is the remains of the Boley Pittard car. Hopefully that solves the mystery around what happened to that chassis after the fire.

Rob

Could you let me have Peter's email address? He restored my Brabham two years - which is a joy - and I wanted to say hello (he has had a long recovery from a very bad road accident last year) update Peter and James on my plans to drive it at Goodwood tomorrow.

Expat,
Peter's e-mail is peterdentyracing@tinyworld.co.uk. Good luck at Goodwood!

Rob

Many thanks Rob.

According to Motoring News Dave Morgan's car was one of three sold to Italy, and "the best of them" - so hardly likely to have been Pittard's, even allowing for what the other owners [being Italian F3 drivers] might have done to their cars.

Chris

Originally posted by Chris Townsend
... So, we could fit Nelson in on chassis 2, which takes care of another gap on Allen's F5000 database in 1969. I can confirm that Race Report's results of the Mondello race in 1969 lists Nelson's car as 'T60 (2)'.

Allen

It would seem that my chassis must be either 61-6 or 62-8, but I have not been able to locate either car. Can anyone think of a way to determine which chassis was written off by Chris Featherstone in Monoposto racing during 1970? Since it was reported to be an ex-MRP car I was hoping it might be 61-6.

Just to push the history of one of these cars a little further
In 1971 T55 [SL64-1] was being hillclimbed in Scotland by Ted Dzierzek.

Chris

Thanks Chris! I have not heard back from Peter Denty yet as to the fuel pump mounts on his cars, but I am hoping that will be one of the final pieces to my puzzle. If his chassis 61-5 doesn't have mounts, I believe I can eliminate all the early numbers as possible for my chassis. I am also hoping that he may have contact info for Chris Featherstone. I will let you know what I find out.

Rob

Originally posted by rkshanahan
If his chassis 61-5

Sorry, that should actually be chassis 60-5.

Is there anyone close enough to Peter Denty Racing to actually go there and look at Peter's two chassis? He has not responded to my attempts to contact him and I am still curious about the fuel pump mounts on his cars.

Rob

Try ringing Peter's son, James Denty. Always pleasant and helpful in my experience, he may be able to answer your questions.

Their tel number if you dial from the US is + 011 44 1 1953 498 529.

I was able to get in touch with Barry at Peter Denty Racing and he was most helpful. He inspected 60-5 for me and says it has no pump mounts. Appearently 62-10 is in another location and he will inspect that chassis when he gets the opportunity.
Since we have reports that 60-2 and 60-5 are lacking the mounts, I think I am safe in assuming that my chassis must be 61-6 or later. Unfortunately, that does not help me narrow it down between 61-6 and 62-8. Any info about the whereabouts of either of those chassis would be appreciated.
I will let you know about the mounts on 62-10 as soon as I hear anything.

Rob

It has been a while, but I finally have some more information to add. I recently went to Peter Denty Racing to meet Peter and look over his cars, and it was a very informative visit. It turns out Peter has 60-5(complete rolling chassis), most of 60-1, as well as what is left of 60-10 after its fire. According to Peter's documents, 60-1 was written off and used as spares to run 60-5, either while they were both with MRP or possibly later with Chris Featherstone. Anyway, that accounts for three chassis numbers, plus 60-2 and 62-11 located previously.
As to the mounts on the rear of the chassis, they are not for the fuel pump but for the Lucas Electronic ignition box, which means that both F2 and F3 versions would use them. Since 60-2 doesn't have them and 60-5 does, they must have started putting them on somewhere in between.
Robs Lamplough has offered to track down the cars he sold to Ireland, so we will see what turns up there.

Rob

Rick, anyone.

Autosport 25-7-1969 , report of Lydden Hill meeting advises Chris Featherstone's ex MRP 1.5 Piper powered PROTOTYPE Lola T60 , page 16.

Bryan.

Thanks Bryan,

I will try to find the Autosport and I will make sure that Peter Denty sees this, as well. I am still hoping to identify the car that Chris Featherstone wrote off, so any info is appreciated.
My car is now in the assembly process, with the chassis painted, engine and gearbox complete, and the suspension being installed. I am hoping to have it, my Crossle 12F, and my Hispano-Suiza powered dragster complete by the end of the summer.

Regards,

Rob

Just a quick update, since it has been nearly a year since my last post about my Lola. The car is nowhere near complete, though I did finish my Hispano Suiza powered dragster. I have the new fuel bladders complete and installed, the gauges being restored, and the suspension is being assembled to the car. No more info about other chassis numbers, but I have been in touch with Robert Tweedie in Aus. about his car, 60-2. He is also in the process of restoring his car, so we should be able to share some info and photos and help each other out. You can see his car on his website,http://www.ibcholdings.com.au/cars.

Rob

Something I noticed when reading 1966 F2 race results which Rob Tweedie (owner of T60-2) sent me. I noticed that Bob Anderson was racing an F2 Cooper in 1966. My car was purchased in the US from Earl Anderson, who claimed he had inherited it from his father or uncle, Robert Anderson. Now, I realize that Robert Anderson is an extremely common name and that race driver Bob Anderson was killed in late 1967, but does anyone out there think that my Lola T-60 could have been purchased by Bob Anderson in '66 or '67 and then sent to the US? It seems highly unlikely to me, but I thought I would ask.

Regards,
Rob

I'm in contact with Bob Anderson's son at the moment - he'll know if Earl Anderson was a relative.

But I'm in Baltimore at the moment - it will have to wait till I'm home.

Allen

Does anyone know what L'Amie did with 64/8?
Of course I would be delighted if Rob S' car turned out to be my old 64/8. Perhaps the contemporary car in which I had the most fun. It was simple , fast, and a joy to drive.This might help. Autosport 20 Sep 1968 p31: "John L'Amie was a non-starter having sold his 1.6 Lola T62 to the US".

Allen

I am so pleased to know you are still thinking about my identity problem. I have the car complete now, except that the bodywork still needs final fitting and paint, so I am getting to the point where I would like to install a chassis plate. At this point I am still no closer to figuring out exactly which chassis I have, so any information you can come up with is most welcome.
Where did you come across the the report of John L'Amie's sale to the US?

Regards,

Rob

This might help. Autosport 20 Sep 1968 p31: "John L'Amie was a non-starter having sold his 1.6 Lola T62 to the US".
Where did you come across the the report of John L'Amie's sale to the US?Err, in Autosport 20 Sep 1968 on page 31.

Allen,

I am afraid that 'old-timer's disease' has set in. I got so excited about the info I didn't pay attention.

Rob

Rob

You're excused! When I read the posts that the identity of your car was down to a choice between 60-6 and 62-8, I realised that this news might over excite you! :)

Allen

I have a T-62? Have very little info on it as it was written off at Seattle, WA. USA in the 70's. All I have is the tub and some of the bodywork. I'll post some pictures as soon as I get a chance.
Looking forward to hearing from some of you!
Lawrence

Lawrence,

Good to hear from you, as my car is nearing completion and I would really like to resolve my serial number issue soon. I seem to remember someone posting something earlier about a T-60 or T-62 that had been converted to Formula Super Vee and sold to the Pacific Northwest. Could this be your car? As I recall, that particular car had a shortened rear monocoque fitted with a tubular subframe around the engine. I look forward to seeing pictures of your car, and of course any info about its serial number. The plate was glued down to the top of the tub under the drivers left forearm originally.

Regards,

Rob

Lawrence,

Below is the text from Roger H's post #23 on this thread. I thought it might be your car, since he reports selling it to the Northwest.

"When I aquired a T60 in the mid 80's I was given a list chassis numbers with the original customer, the colour as it left the factory, and if it was F2 or F3. Mine had been converted to use as a Formula Super Vee and the rear of the chassis around the engine had been cut off (bodged). The tub looked like a steel copy of a Lotus 25 and didn't have bag tanks. The inner parts of the tub was coated with a fuel tank sealant and left to itself. I sold the remains to a guy in the N.W. of the USA and thats the last I heard of it.
This is the list I was given and I reproduce it here without further comment!
60/1 Lythgoe,F3, Blue
60/2 MRP, F2, Blue
60/3 MRP, F2, Blue
60/4 Offendstadt, F2 BRM, Black
60/5 Lythgoe,F3, Red
61/6 MRP,F2, Blue
62/7 Dragoni, F3, Red
62/8 Surtees, F2, Blue
62/9 Dragoni, F3, Yellow
62/10 Williams, F3, Red
62/11 Williams, F3, Green
62/12 Williams, F3, Yellow

NB another note says that 60/1 was 1.5" shorter.

Hope this doesn't further muddy the issue
Roger

Rob/Roger?,
Thanks for the info. BUT our car seems to be a different one. The chassis is complete as it left the UK way back when. The only mods to it were for a side-mounted oil pump. (A section of the r. side of engine bay was 'relieved' to accomadate the pump) Save for the much taller than original roll hoop. The only numbers on the car were the roll hoop regisration for the SCCA. Those numbers where of little help as they stamped random numbers and nobody kept a record of them in that region.:rotate: (Why save them, after all!) This is what I was told by the Oregon Region historian.
I've had the chassis hanging in our shop for the last 6 years and will need to get to a point with work that I can lower it and get some snaps for you to look at. It has a mile of dust on it.
I'll have a look at the original gel-coat to see what color it was. I believe it was a dark blue, but not sure of it.
It has the L&M series stickers for FB. Has some others too but, again, it's been up in the air for some time and I'll need to have a closer look.
I'll be in touch.
Talk to you soon,
Lawrence

Lawrence

Those L&M stickers narrow the field somewhat, since it means it must have appeared at a pro race in the early 70s and not many Lola T60s did (either running as FCs or FB)

I've got a Lola of unidentified provenance entered for an R.J. Schmidt #13 by Pierre Phillips [know him?] at Kent, 7 June 70; not in race but might not have qualified. He also appears, finishing 8th, at Kent in the pro race 6 July 69, with a Lola-t.c (the only FC in that race is Wayne Jamieson's Manic)
This is in your area, so might be of relevance

Chris

The SCCA roll hoop number isn't completely random! It could be useful. What is it?

Allen

I realise that the all of the regions have their specific designations but from there they could do whatever they wanted as far as numbering the chassis. Our car is from region 69, I believe, which is the Oregon Region. The specific roll hoop # I think is 170, but I havn't looked at it in quite some time. I'll check it when I get the car down later this week.
I'm preparing an old Vee for a race next month and have a bare chassis right now so you can see that the Lola is on the back burner for now.
Later,
Lawrence

Lawrence,

I look forward to seeing some pics of your chassis when you get it down. I have a CD of photos of my car and T62-11 that I put together for Rob Tweedie in Australia (T60-2) which I would be happy to send you. I am also slowly getting around to making some new engine covers based on an old cover that Rob Tweedie has offered me, so please let me know if you might be interested in one.

Regards,

Rob

Our chassis just happens to have the original engine cover still intact. (Somehow!) I think it's been modified over the years to accept weber side-draft carbs.
Lawrence

Roll hoop number is 96-130. I remember several years ago trying to find out what region the car was from and switching the 96 around as I did in a previous post. 69 is the Texas region while 96 is the Oregon. When I contacted the region they said that they had no way to track the car by the roll hoop number since they never kept records of them. I asked how they could know which numbers were used and which were still available if they didn't know which ones had been used? They really didn't have an answer.
I know that I talked to the last person that raced it last year but can't find the notes I took. I'll have a look around for them.
Lawrence

Lawrence,
I had a similar experience when trying to research the rollbar number on my '67 Crossle Formula B. That car was numbered in Florida, but when I called the registrar for the region, he was unable to provide any information as he said that no records from that time period existed. I checked with my local region and was told that they had a record of every car they had ever numbered, but that there is no national database and each region is on its own when it comes to record keeping. Appearently, some regions are better than others.

Regards,

Rob

If only someone had the time and energy to make a list of all the SCCA regions and their numbers and then contact them to find who has kept records and who hasn't...

Allen

fv55... - All is not lost.

The Oregon region of SCCA does have records of their rollbar numbers you need to talk to the right person. I bought a FC/FB car in 1988 which had a roll bar #96-34 stamped by the SCCA in Oregon. It took me many, many years to find out who the car was owned by in 1971. (apparently 1971 was the first year the numbers were stamped and registered at least in this SCCA region) - The log book issued also had this same number as a reference.

I don't have the name and address readily to hand but I will send you a pm when I find it.

Allen - I haven't forgotten I still owe you some history of my Superspeed Mk5/5a Lola - should be able to extract my files from storage over the next few days. There is some connection between the ex USA car mentioned above.

Cheers

HaydnM

I found the notes I took last time I spoke with a prior owner of our car.
The guy that drove it last name is Robert 'Bob' Tracy. He now lives in Quicy, WA. (About 150 m. from our home. Before that I spoke to him in Phoenix, AZ. Not sure why he moved. Had to do a people search to find him again!)
He told me that he ran the car for just a couple of years in the late 70's and early 80's as an FB. The person he bought it from was named "Sams", from the Portland, OR. area. Bob said that this Sams person had purchased it from an R. J. (Richard J.) Schmidt, a retired military person, also of Portland.
Schmidt aquired the car in '71 from an unknown source and ran it for a number of years in the NW.
Bob also said that it had a Brian Hart 'small valve' engine in it.
Bob's ex-wife, Sharon Tracy (Also in the Portland area), was invaluble in sourcing information as to the where-abouts of Bob. At the time I first attained the chassis I had no idea what it was. I posted pictures at a Historic event in Portland in the ealy 90's and had an immediate response from a friend of Sharon. Incidently she also worked for the group Global Events that was organising the meet. I had actually met her at registration earlier that day.
That is all I know of our chassis.
If you can get me the name of the person in the Oregon Region I will get in touch with them re. this chassis. Who knows, maybe we can find more out about it.
Lawrence

Lawrence

I reckon Pierre Phillips could help you. He was the Lola agent on the west coast in period and is listed as running Schmidt in FB races in 1969 and 1970 at Kent. The L&M stickers suggest that the car ran these races because their sponsorship ended in 1971. My hunch is that yours is Schmidt's car from 69 onwards.
Pierre is still in the Seattle area. I'll try and get you a contact.

I can't find a Sams in SCCA results mid 70s but the car may have run regionals rather than nationals. How about Sans Thompson of Seattle?
I correspond with Sans, who ran a Lola T360 after 1975 and still runs pro rallies very effectively. This might have been his first car. Will ask.

Also, am a bit surprised at Bob Tracy's dates. Bob had a March 75B in 1976 and was quite a quick competitor with it in SCCA, so a Lola T60 after that would have been a bit of a step backwards. Bob and Sans Thompson were friends, and I think Sans crewed for him.

Would you mind letting me have Bob's details [or forward him mine] as I'd like the chance to get some history on that March.

Chris

Lawrence,
I am wondering if your car could be the ex-Robs Lamplough 62-8? His car was sold to the US by John L'amie at about the right time and it had blue bodywork like your car. The easy way to identify 62-8 is that it had two aluminum scoops on the bodywork just above the driver's knees. Robs added these scoops himself, so it is doubtful they would be present on any of the other cars. If your car still has its original bodywork I thought these scoops might still be present. My car has a replacement nose section, so these features don't help me in identifying my car.

Regards,

Rob

Chris and Rob,
Pierre Phillips' name kind of rings a bell, although I'm quite sure I've never spoken to him. It would be nice to find out if he can help ID the car. I have spoken to Sans at some time but don't recall the conversation or what he had to say. I may have gotten his name fron Bob's ex. I do remember that he was living on a boat in Portland at the time. (As I remember now, I did get Sans' ex-wifes name and number from Bobs' ex-wife. Funny racer-types!) Anyway, I can't think of what Sans may have told me at that time. I probably wrote it down somewhere....once.
The dates I got from Bob were not too specific and I may have wrote them down wrong also. He wasn't really happy about me tracking him down and did not want to dredge up those memories. He is the epitome of an old, crotchety man. (Just my opinion, so you know)
The nose on our chassis is not original but must've been replaced at an early time with the FJ nose that's on it now since it has the L&M stickers on it.
Sams may have been the guy Tracy sold the car to.
Brian, if you want to contact Bob I'll try to get his phone number again. I may still have it filed somewhere. Not too sure if he'd want to actually talk racing again though.
Lawrence

Lawrence

From what Sans has told me of his ex wife you may not want to make that call! [I don't think she's too interested in forwarding anything except hate mail.]
I'll contact him and see what he has to say.

If Bob Tracy is that cranky maybe I'll pass on talking to him.

Chris

Chris,
And why did I call you Brian? Beats me, sorry.
Lawrence

I was at Watkins Glen on Monday and spotted the following in 1970 Autoweek adverts:

Lola T63 Formula B ex-Surtees/Attwood; Glen Racing Ltd, Watkins Glen [NY] (coincidentally) Autoweek 3 Jan 1970 p35

Lola ex-MRP F2 69 CenDiv champion John Marshall Sandusky, OH Autoweek 24 Jan 1970 p35

After speaking with Pierre Phillips (Portland, Oregon) we've decided that our car was imported from the UK with a few others and purchased by him. He does have some pictures of the car at Laguna Seca in the 60's, although I haven't seen them.
If I can get a hold of them I'll try to post them.
Lawrence

I've got a Lola of unidentified provenance entered for an R.J. Schmidt #13 by Pierre Phillips [know him?] at Kent, 7 June 70; not in race but might not have qualified. He also appears, finishing 8th, at Kent in the pro race 6 July 69, with a Lola-t.c (the only FC in that race is Wayne Jamieson's Manic)The 6 Jul 1969 Seattle entry list includes a red #4 Lola T62 driven by RJ Schmidt of Portland OR.

Allen

That's our chassis.
Schmidt raced it for Phillips I believe.

I spoke with Frank Scurria (motorcycle racer from the 60's) about Lola T-62/11, which he owned and raced in the late 60's. Frank first saw the car at Frank Williams garage in '67, but ended up buying it in '68 or '69 from the guy who bought it from Williams. Scurria imported it to the US to try his hand at auto racing. He was moderately successful with it and sold it a couple of years later. It is now restored and in a collection here in So. California.

I was also informed recently that Scurria was involved in a road accident while riding a motorcycle in Motogiro America event and was in critical condition. I have not heard since about how he is doing.

I am finally finishing up my Lola restoration. I have the car entered for the Quail Lodge Concours during the big Monterey Historics weekend at Laguna Seca. I figured entering an event and having a hard deadline was the only way I was ever going to get it finished.

I have an updated chassis list for the T-60/61/62 attached. I found 60/4 listed on the Lola website as currently owned by Gerald Hudson, and have asked Lola to put him in touch with me. I also found a reference in a book that said 60/3 was rebuilt by Lola for MRP in '66 as 61/6, which might explain why there was only one chassis listed by Lola as a T-61.

I believe this leaves only 62/7 and 62/9 unaccounted for. Lola lists both of these chassis as sold to "Dragoni", and I am told that several chassis were sold to Italy for F3 racing.

There is still one chassis I am trying to find here in the US. It was reported converted to a Super Vee, and it should be easy to identify as it had the monocoque cut off behind the roll bar and a tubular rear subframe attached. I will post photos of my car once I have it complete and update the chassis list as I learn more.

Lola ex-MRP F2 69 CenDiv champion John Marshall Sandusky, OH Autoweek 24 Jan 1970 p35Marshall finished sixth in the 24 Nov 1968 Run-Offs in a "Lola F2" in Formula C.

Allen

I think Marshall's car was a T54 [BRJ63] later sold to Carl Ianalla of Geneva Illinois

Chris