Brabham BT16

Last week, I saw a Brabham BT 16, chassisplate # F2 - 28 - 65, frame number AM ? 99? in Germany. The car was converted in the late 70ties as Formula Ford car. The owner bought it few month ago in Belgique in very sad condition. There is not very much left from the old F2 car, which was driven by Brabham on 30. 08. 1965 Brands Hatch and Oulton Park, 18. 09. 1965 (asT car).

Engine in those days was the Cosworth SCA F2 1-litre engine.

Has anyone more information about those cars?
I am not very familar with Brabham.

Thank you for your help.

Richard111.

Triumph Herald/Spitfire front uprights , short rear mag uprights [long version came in for the BT18's].
Chassis virtually identical to BT14 and BT15.
In F2 form with Cosworth SCA ,a Hewland MK.7 six speed gearbox.

Suggest you at least obtain a copy of Brabham + Ralt + Honda book by Mike Lawrence.

Wheels would have been 6.0" or 6.5" x 13 dia. front and 8.0" rears x 13" dia.
Serck oil/water radiator combined at front, triangular shaped dry sump tank immeadiately between radiator and front bulkhead .
Bryan .

http://www.alanmorgan.plus.com/Brabham/TNF12.jpg

Here's what a BT16 looked like in it's heyday

If the owner plans to restore the car to its original specification, then the mechanical items in the back could cause a problem. SCA's and Mk7 boxes are very rare.

Some BT16s were sold as high spec F3 cars, and that would be a much more affordable proposition, and almost as fast. However, I'm not sure how the FIA would view such a car if it could not be proved that it ran as an F3 in period.

I would rather see the car being raced, even if it was not in totally 100% original form.

Brabham BT18 28 66 is one of the few BT18s where there is any record of the owner in period in contemporary magazines. I don't understand the claims for Brabham driving it, as Autosport has this car in 1967 as being raced by Reine Wisell, and it belonging to Picko Troberg in 1966. According to F1R [not always reliable but better in the 1960s] the works F2 cars that year were 18, 19, 20 [the prototype BT21]. Works F3s included 1 and 21 run by Chequered Flag

Chris

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Or I could learn to read. BT16 - 28 -65 was one of Brabham's cars in the 65 season according to F1R

My this crow tastes good

Hi folks,
I have posted a thread elsewhere, on the Blackjack FF1600. A previous owner is trying to find it.

Do you know if the initials AM are usual within Brabham frame numbers?

Hopefully this may be a clue for me, as an AM [Alan Minshaw - he of DT fame] is looking for one of his old cars

AM means Arch Motors, who built all(?) of Brabham frames. So all Brabham frames of this time would have an AM number stamped somewhere near the back but any modifications or repairs may mean that doesn't survive.

There is no direct way of relating the AM number to the Brabham chassis number.

Allen

Most of the early Brabham chassis were built by RACING FRAMES Arch Motors dont come on to Brabham scene until the BT14 F Libre car, Racing Frames built chassis for Brabham on and off until the BT23. It also thought that Buckler Engineering might have also built some of the BT6 FJ Frames too.

This might help anyone looking for missing BT16s:

According to Canadian Track & Traffic (Feb 1969), Rob Leeson bought the ex-Bridges BT16. THis car, according to the article, had been built in Sep 1965 for Frank Lythgoe and was raced by Bob Anderson, Alan Rollinson and Mike Beckwith in F2. In the spring of 1967 it was bought by David Bridges for Brian Redman to drive. The 997cc SCA was bored out to 1592cc by Bridges mechanics and raced until Bridges Lola T100 turned up.

Bought by Leeson in Jan 1968, it was almost immediately crashed at Brands. While being repaired it was fitted with a twin-cam and raced again in Sep 1968 when he picked up a couple of libre wins. Leeson planned to use it in the 1969 Canadian series.

Allen

This might help anyone looking for missing BT16s:

According to Canadian Track & Traffic (Feb 1969), Rob Leeson bought the ex-Bridges BT16. THis car, according to the article, had been built in Sep 1965 for Frank Lythgoe and was raced by Bob Anderson, Alan Rollinson and Mike Beckwith in F2. In the spring of 1967 it was bought by David Bridges for Brian Redman to drive. The 997cc SCA was bored out to 1592cc by Bridges mechanics and raced until Bridges Lola T100 turned up.

Bought by Leeson in Jan 1968, it was almost immediately crashed at Brands. While being repaired it was fitted with a twin-cam and raced again in Sep 1968 when he picked up a couple of libre wins. Leeson planned to use it in the 1969 Canadian series.

AllenUp to my ears in libre cars still. The Leeson car above matches the history of BT16 F2-23-65 in the F1R F2 records. It would then have been Rollinson's multiple libre winner with a 1.5-litre stretched SCA in the latter half of 1966 when entered by Lythgoe.

I wonder if it's still in Canada...

Allen

The Leeson car above matches the history of BT16 F2-23-65 in the F1R F2 records.
I wonder if it's still in Canada...

Allen
I can fill in the rest of this cars history. I bought it from the guy who brought it down from Canada in 1985. I raced it in vintage races here in California through 88. I will go into more detail once I dig up the notes. I have no history prior to Leeson but the crash and trip to Canada match my story and it still has the dash plate f2-23-65.

Bob Micheletti

I wonder if it's still in Canada...
I bought it ...I love this forum!

I love this forum!

I second that motion! This board is amazing...

Brabham BT-16 F2-23-65

When I purchased the car it was without a logbook but came with a journal that had the following entries:

[Probably Simon Gardner]
On July 19-78 I bought from Kevin Skinner one Brabham BT 16 with BT 21 suspension. Car is without engine. Skinner sold me a Ford Twin Cam 1600cc with about 8500 RPM’s.

[Probably Jerry Ives]
Car purchased Nov 4-79 from Simon Gardner in Burnaby. Car is with Twin Cam in good running order. Rebuild body change color to red – white wings.

[Next page – unknown who wrote recap of history. Handwriting does not match]
Bought 1967 by Rob Leeson, raced in UK that year, crashed at Silverstone rebuilt and brought to Westwood 1968. Raced all season in conference. 1968 champion. Sold to Pierce Isaacs (pi symbol) in 1970. Ran 1970 season and 1971. Retired.
Sat dis-assembled at Abingdon Motors till Skinner bought in 1973.

When I bought the car I made the following entry:
Car bought from Jerry Ives by Bob Micheletti in Feb 1985 (Jerry had used the car for school in Canada purchase date unknown). Ground up restoration by Bob in early 85 to prepare car for vintage racing. First vintage race 7-85 at Willow Springs. New logbook started.

The car was Maroon when I bought it from Jerry. He had brought it down from Canada when he moved to California. He never ran the car in the US. It had the dash plate with f2-23-56 on it. I neglected to record the Arch Motors number. The rear suspension was BT 21 but the original pickup points for the short hub carriers were still there. It had the MRD cast motor mounts for the Twin Cam and a Brabham magnesium gearbox adaptor and side plates on a mk5. It came with a George Reed fuel cell installed, an aluminum can (probably the original tank) with a rubbery coating on the outside and foam inside. Spare parts included a large aluminum tank that wrapped over the top of the foot well and down the other side intricately fit around the side tubes to get maximum capacity. With both tanks the capacity must have been 15 or 20 gallons. There were 10 Brabham wheels, if I remember correctly 2 - 5”, 2 – 7” and 2 – 9” daises (round spoke), 2 - 10” and 2 - 12” square spokes. It also had a hole through the nose for a set of wings and a high wing for the rear, which I never used.

I completely disassembled the car and stripped the frame to check the welds. The car was reassembled with all new hardware, bearings, plumbing and electrical. I raced it the rest of 85 including the first “Return to Palm Springs Road Races” in November. The following year, 86 I won the “single seat points championship” with VARA (Vintage Auto Racing Association). In the middle of the year I repainted the bodywork orange with a white stripe and band on the nose. On of the highlights of 86 was a support race we ran for the Times Grand Prix of Endurance at my favorite track, Riverside. It was supposed to be a vintage formula 1 race but to fill the field there were some F-5000s, Atlantics and B cars invited. I put the 10s and 12s on with slicks and had a ball! I finished 3rd overall and first in class, ahead of some very fast cars. Also in 86 Sir Jack signed the logbook at the Palm Springs event. In 87 I again won the points for the year.

At the beginning of 1988 I sold the car to Christopher Leggett. He had the car gone through completely again by Rick Cresse and Kevin Bollinger of Vintage Racecar Restoration. The engine was redone by Dave Vegher and the car painted red with a white stripe. It is fuzzy how long Chris ran the car but I think 2 or 3 years. He then sold it to David Long who pained it black. I saw the car at 2 VARA events but lost track of it after that. I will see if I can find out where the car is currently and post again. I think I have a lead but it may take some time.

Sorry for the loooong post but once you get me started I can't SHUT UP!

Please see this thread for my current project (another Ron T. car)

http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88715&page=2
starts at post #20

Regards,

Bob Micheletti

Ralt 1980 RT-5 #201
1966 Diva Valkre

Bruce Jensen had a BT16 in late 1969 puchased from Fred Opert. The engine was from Bruce's MK7 Elva and was a twin cam. It had a MK5 Hewland and the was supposed to be the Jochem Rindt F2 car. It was always entered as a BT18 in pro races. In 1970 it went back to Fred when Bruce bought his BT21.

Rindt's car [F2.2.65 according to F1R] was being hillclimbed in Aug/Sept 68 by Hans Obrist. Anyone know where it went after that?
There is a good chance Bruce Jensen's car might have been ex Winkelmann though.

Chris

Brabham BT16 - F2 - 02 -65 1965 Formula 2 ex. Rindt Roy Winkelmann ??? Martinelli & Sonvico RT/Silvio Moser CH, Hans Bütsch CH?, Hans Obrist CH, attualmente Konrad (Cony) Lutzinger Rudolfstetten CH

Hi has also the Sister car from Alan Rees, both in Winkelmann colours.

The colours were right for Bruce's car to be ex Winkleman

Brabham BT16 - F2 - 02 -65 1965 Formula 2 ex. Rindt Roy Winkelmann ??? Martinelli & Sonvico RT/Silvio Moser CH, Hans Bütsch CH?, Hans Obrist CH, attualmente Konrad (Cony) Lutzinger Rudolfstetten CH

Hi has also the Sister car from Alan Rees, both in Winkelmann colours.

Is this (F2-2-65) the car that Klaus Fiedler started historic racing with, I think he restored and raced the car then sold it back to the person he bought it from?

I think no!

The best, ask him directly,

Lutziger Classiccars
Bernstr. 4
8964 Rudolfstetten AG
+41 56 631 10 00

[John could you move this to BT15 at an appropriate time, and I think it's probably time to put BT16 into the chassis history archive]

Chris

I'll sort this out, shortly, Chris!

Ok, I've moved the BT15 stuff to its archive thread, but is this BT16 thread really ready for the archive? A few individual chassis have been mentioned but is that enough? How many were built? Do we have a list of the chassis numbers etc?

I suspect so. ;) If we put this in the archive, we might find out.

Allen

Chicken before the egg, Allen, but OK!

John, consider that egg fertilized, laid, hatched and running around in the farmyard!!

BT16
F2.1.65 Winkelmann for Alan Rees
F2.2.65 Winkelmann for Jochen Rindt, then 1966 Martinelli Sonvico for Silvio Moser, 1968 Hans Obrist and on as described above
F2.3.65 Kurt Ahrens, 1966 Manfred Mohr, retained to 1968 when new Tecno delivered
F2.4.65 Aurora Gear for Trevor Taylor, retained to 1967 For sale by Taylor June 67 AS
F2.5.65 Unknown
F2.6.65 Sc.Sorocaima: Mario Cabral, retained 1966
F2.7.65 Baldyne: Dennis O'Sullivan then to Lindberg; 1966 Jean Johansson
F2.8.65 Coombs: Graham Hill with BRM 71, retained 1966, then Allen: Fred Gibson, 1970 to Col Green
F2.9.65 Martinelli: Silvio Moser then to Ken Sager [is this likely?] 1966: Ken Sager 1967: Dave Oxton; 1969: Graham Watson; 1970: Brian Faloon; 1971: Warren Elleray
F2.10.65 Works: Denis Hulme with SCA; 1966: MRS: Lewis Kerr, retained 1967
F2.11.65 Works: Jack Brabham with Honda S800
F2.12.65 Unknown
F2.13.65 Celerity Inc: Tommy Hitchcock with MAE
F2.14.65 Unknown
F2.15.65 Chequered Flag: Chris Irwin [F1R 18.9] Roy Pike late season; 1966 Chequered Flag: Roger Mac
F2.16.65 Lythgoe: Adam Wylie
F2.17.65 Lythgoe: Alan Rollinson; 1966: P. Groggins [SCCA] to 1971
F2.18.65 Unknown 1965, then 1966 Morris: Cliff Haworth retained 1967
F2.19.65 Works: Jack Brabham with SCA; 1966: Robert Lamplough for Kai Godenheim/Raino Rinne; 1967 Lamplough for Raimi Rinne; 1968 John Watson (Lotus t/c) 1969 Dave Berry until 1971
F2.20.65 Unknown
F2.21.65 Martinelli: Guglielmo Bellasi
F2.22.65 Scaradi: Harry Stiller with MAE, retained by Stiller 1966
F2.23.65 Bob Anderson 1966: Lythgoe: John Taylor/Mike Beckwith; 1967: Bridges: Malcolm Smith/Brian Redman; 1968: Rob Leason in UK appears in Libre at Silverstone MN 19.9.68 p.17; 1969 Leason to Canada and on as above
F2.24.65 to 27.65 unknown
F2.28.65 Works: Jack Brabham
F2.29.65 Unknown 1965, 1966 Sports Motors: Peter Gethin
F2.30.65 Unknown
F2.31.65 unknown in period, for sale Len Selby 2000
F2.32.65 unknown
F2.33.65 Walter Habbeger; 1966 bruno Frey

Chris

Good list Chris.

John Watson is described by Autosport as having a 1.6 Brabham twin cam in 1967 and I had assumed that it was his 1968 car, i.e. F2-19-65. Your list says it wasn't. Any idea what Watson had in 1967?

I also have Robin Darlington in a Brabham at Llandow early in 1966 described as "ex-Rawlinson" which I took to mean "ex-Rollinson" so last season's all conquering F2 BT16-SCA [F2-17-65]? Autosport 15 Apr 1966 p592.

F2-16-65 would have ceased to exist after Adam Wyllie's accident at Dunboyne 17 Jul 1965. Didn't F2-23-65 go to Lythgoe for Anderson to drive to replace it?

John Bridges was said to have a BT16 twin cam late 1965 but this is presumably a misdescription of his regular BT14.

Allen

Denis has reminded me (:bag:) that he sent me a spec sheet on these cars earlier this year. The main differences are:

BT16 - SCA, Hewland Mk 7, 1300 series driveshafts, 18 gallons held in two side tanks

BT15 - MAE (or Holbay R65), Hewland Mk 6, 1100 series driveshafts, 7 gallon seat tank

BT14 - twin cam, Hewland Mk IV (optional Mk 5), 1300 series driveshafts, 7 gallon seat tank

Wheels and chassis dimensions are the same. Simon has volunteered (I think that's the right word!) to help me recognise the minor chasis differences around the rear but he's confident that the frames had to be made slightly differently by AM.

These details are also on the other two relevant threads.

Allen

BT16 - SCA, Hewland Mk 7, 1300 series driveshafts, 18 gallons held in two side tanks

Allen

As described in my prior lengthily post, F2-23-65 had both tanks when I bought it. The right hand tank wrapped over the top between the dash hoop and the pedals if I remember correctly. The left tank went down the side and behind the seat. It had a MK5 but that likely replaced the MK7 when the twin cam was installed. I have a bunch of pictures somewhere. I will dig them up and scan them if they are of interest.

Bob

Chris
You mentioned in the BT15 thread, Cliff Haworth,an American driver.
He purchased a BT16, F2-18-65,delivered thursday,June11,1965,with MAE
Cosworth engine. At the time he was working at MRD (no wages) to learn
about the car,s. First event,Roskilde-Denmark- June/11/65.Also,the first time he drove the car.
Cheers Denis

Apologies for wrong date for first event, should be 14th June.
Cheers Denis

From the 1966 F1R book Brands 13 Nov 1966 :

#65 Martin Slater BT16 AM 25
#76 [MRS] Tony Trimmer BT16 F2-22-65

Trimmer's car looks like it was Stiller's third car being run by MRS.

Allen

May 1967 Racing Car News lists that the Alec Mildren BT16 fitted with a 2.5 Climax FPF had been sold to Niel Allen to drive. This car was predominantly driven by Fred Gibson, which is listed here as F2.8.65, so it has a bit more history.

This was the car debuted by Frank Gardner in the 1966 Hordern Trophy at Warwick Farm, and subsequently driven by him in the 1967 Tasman Series.

Dave Shaw

Report and news item reference the David Bridges BT16. The car was "demolished" during the F3 race at Oulton Park when Malcolm Smith crashed at Water Tower. The news story reports that Smith should be back soon in a "new Brabham BT21".

:)

As part of the Hillclimb Championship review it mentions that Mike Hawley had a "new BT16 chassis with Twin Cam" for the start of the 1966 season.

:)

Here's more on F2-17-65, AM49, history as per Chris's list above.

http://www.motorsportsmarket.com/pages_new/car_detail.asp?car=2

Hi there, I am also new to this whole thing but while researching chassis
F-2-1-65, I can supply info from the time it left Winkelman Racing as Alan Rees car to a few years later.
In 1966 it was bought from Winkelman, by Bob Fuller of Connecticut and outfitted with a Cosworth MK12 to run in our Formula B series. He did quite well with it and although I can't quote specifics, he won most of the races he entered in 1967. It was then sold to Steve Brownstein of New York to run in 1968 also in Formula B. It still had the faithful MK12. He managed to win races at Lime Rock, Thompson, Bridgehamton, St.Jovite and Mosport. It was then traded to Fred Opert for a Chevron B-15b. I suppose this is where it could have been sold to Bruce Jenson. His results are unknown to me. Oddly enough I was at the Continental Series Vintage races at Lime Rock in 1996 and to my surprise saw tha car back with Winkelman Silver Striping and also an F-2 Cosworth SCA engine. It was owned by a Canadian Chap named Murray (last name escapes me) and driven by Fred Harris. I'm not even sure if he ran it that day, as he had a slew of cars to pick from. From there, the trail goes cold. There are pictures of the car from the 1968 season if any one is interested.
E-mail only.........Hope I filled in a few blanks for The 1st F-2 chassis of 1965. Cheers....................M.W.

Thanks for this - very useful. I'd love to see the pictures.

I don't have any results for Fuller but Steve Browstein raced a Brabham FB at the Lime Rock 2 Sep 1968 (http://www.oldracingcars.com/results/result.php?RaceID=LR68) FA/FB pro race, qualifying a very impressive eighth. The car was given in the Autoweek report as a BT15.

I would guess that Fuller and Brownstein raced mainly in Nationals and Regionals.

Allen

Excuse my ignorance but what's a Cosworth MK12?

Hi Allen,

Your right about mostly nationals and regionals. Bob Fuller was the head of a large company at the time and had little time to go far. Steve Brownstein was also limited in time to take what was basicly a 3 year old car with the MK12 engine, putting out about 140HP and run around the country and race the continental series with newer cars (Lotus 41's, Brabham Bt 18's and 21's running the current engines, Cosworth MK13, Vegantunes and Brian Harts putting out between 170 and 180 HP.). You are correct about the Lime Rock race. Although 8th overall on the grid, he was, I think, 1st or 2nd amongst the FB cars, and ahead of a whole bunch of the FA cars with their big V-8's. Do you know how he finished that race, because I don't. I can say that the race at St. Jovite was a prelim for the F-1 race in 1968. He won, beating such Canadian drivers as Jacque Couture, Bill Brack, Craig Hill and Peter Broeker all of whom had the latest equipment. Both Rindt and Alan Rees were quite tickled to see the old Winkeman car still winning races.
With regard to your question of MK12's and Mark13's, These were 1600cc Twin Cam engines built,I believe, for the American market. The 12 was good for about 140HP, the 13 was about 150-160 and then they were superceded by Vegantune and Brian Hart with about 170 to 180HP.
Sending you the few pics I have is no problem as long as you can tell me how to e-mail them to you. I know that one of them is at that mentioned Lime Rock race with the car sailing under one of the FA cars in big bend.
One is seen in the rain at Watkins Glen, where the car scored an overall win, FA, FB and FC cars, by over 1 lap. Cheers, M.W.

Brownstein retired at Lime Rock - 42 laps overheating. I'm guessing you didn't click on the link:

http://www.oldracingcars.com/results/result.php?RaceID=LR68

You can email the pictures to me at allen@oldracingcars.com

Thanks for the explanation of the twin-cams.

Allen

MW

Just wanted to check that the Steve Brownstein BT16 isn't the BT21 briefly raced by brother Bart in FC in early 1969.
Did it go straight to Fred Opert?
Do you have any more gems on formula cars from this period?

Chris

Hi guy's,

Allen, thanks for the info and the link. I just e-mailed (2:15PM pacific time) 7 pictures to the address you gave me. If you don't get them, please let me know and we'll try again.

Chris, The path the BT-16 took was as described in an above note. As for the BT-21, I have no idea where or to whom it went. Sorry about that.

Take care all, M.W.

Hi again Allen,
I just recieved a notice from my server saying your pictures were not deliverable. Maybe 7 was too many, so I'll send one and see what happens............................M.W.

First one's arrived

That would be the Bruce Jensen car which he got in mid 69. He bought it from fast Freddy and traded in his Elva Mk7. He used the engine from the Elva. I started crewing for Bruce shortly after this. He ran it at Trois Rivieres, a race at Harewood and 'The Fun One' at the Glen. He then ran at Sebring in the 'Christmas' race. The car was normally entered as a BT18 as he was afraid the organizers would not accept a BT16. We weren't the only ones doing this!
The car was traded back to Opert in early 70 for a BT21 with a Vegatune.

I'm curious as to why he would think the car would not be accepted as a BT-16. In the states, the normal requisite for acceptance was if it had tires. O.K. Kidding, but certainly no restrictions on year of build.

Sebring was a pro Int'l race with European drivers and they were being a little picky. Bruce was at that time an unknown and this was his first pro race outside of Canada. He figured a BT16 might be considered too old. There were 2 other BT16's also entered as BT18s. Mike Bliss(?) from CA. was one.

Chris,
In 1967 I bought a BT16 F3 MAE from Fenwick Motors in East Lothian. The car did not have a serial number or an AM number. I exported it to Canada where I raced it in Formula C til 1972 with considerable success. It appeared to be more like a BT15 than a Bt16, however, all the documentation I have states that it is a BT16. I never did get any history on the care befor Fenwick Motors raced it. Do you or anyone out there know of this car.
Ray Smith

Ray, Welcome.
There were a few BT16s with MAEs in 1965/66, some of which can't be traced in 1967. Notable of these would be
F2.13.65 Tommy Hitchcock's Celerity Racing car which I can't trace after 65
F2.29.65 Sports Motors car used by Gethin in 1966
However, you might well be right about the car having been a BT15
Those more knowledgable than me about the 60s can probably tell whether Fenwick Motors of East Lothian [isn't that Edinburgh way?] had anything to do with Andrew Fletcher, but his BT15 F3.2.65 disappears after 1966

Chris

Hi Chris,
I have this niggling thing going on in my head and it is the name Peter Gethin. His name is familiar to me and I just get a sense that I heard it around my car. Further to that, you now know that my car was purchased in Edinbugh Scotland from Fenwick Motors in the fall of 1968 and one of the related purchase documents is stamped Sports Tune Motor Co. Lonniddry, East Lothian. Could that be the same Sports Motors that you refer to re F2.29.65 and Peter Gethin.
Regards,
Ray

Ray

Sports Motors [Gethin's backer] was in Manchester, so that's not the connection. We will, in the fullness of time, get to the original owner of your car, however!

Chris

Sports Tune in Scotland rings a bell re Walter Robertson the 70s/80s Spec Saloom man...

Good morning All,
Does the name Ian Peterson of Sports Tune Motor Co. Longniddry, East Lothian, Scotland ring any bells from the 1968 era?
Cheers,
Ray Smith

Good morning All,
Does the name Ian Peterson of Sports Tune Motor Co. Longniddry, East Lothian, Scotland ring any bells from the 1968 era?
Cheers,
Ray SmithYou could ask them. They still exist:

http://www.sportstune.com/

I wonder if this has some connection to Ray Smith's BT16/BT15?

John Millar is third in the 1967 Scottish Libre Championship with a BT15-MAE, which I guess might have been the Fletcher car that goes missing after 1966.
He has the car for sale at the end of the season. However, Millar came from Bridge of Weir, which is over to the west of Glasgow and therefore some way from Longniddry and Fenwick Motors

Chris

As part of the Hillclimb Championship review it mentions that Mike Hawley had a "new BT16 chassis with Twin Cam" for the start of the 1966 season.

:)

Any idea of the chassis number of this car & its current whereabouts?

Didn't Hawley have a new BT18 for 1966, chassis 8?
Is BT16 perhaps a misprint?

Chris

Didn't Hawley have a new BT18 for 1966, chassis 8?
Is BT16 perhaps a misprint?

Chris

In the Sheldon/Rabagliati Black Book on Hillclimbing for 1966 Mike Hawley is shown in a BT16 throughout.