petestenning 30 Jan 2004, 10:12 As this is my first thread in this section hope you can follow my thread.
I am researching into the history of the Lola T70 mk3b, i have some gaps in the chassis nos that i have so far been able to find.
here follows my list so far:
chassis no team sold to or used by
sl76/134 Tech Speed Racing
s176/138 Sid Taylor Racing
S176/141 Sportscars Unlimited of Switz.
s176/142 Paul Hawkins Racing LTD
s176/143 Ecurie Bonnier
s176/144 Team Elite
s176/145 Scuderia Filipinetti
s176/146 John Woolfe Racing
s176/148 Avalon Racing
s176/149 Grand Bahama Racing Car Co.
s176/150 David Piper Autoracing
s176/151 Scuderia Filipinetti
s176/153 A& J Motors Chadwell Heath
Some of these cars were possibly written off in accidents, have they been rebuilt?, Paul Hawkins car for example.And if so did they retain their
original chassis no.?
If anyone can fill in any gaps i would be grateful. :) :)
John Turner 30 Jan 2004, 10:46 Hi, Petestenning. You need to acquire a copy of John Starkey's Book 'Lola T70 - The Racing history & Individual Chassis Record' which will probably answer some of your questions. For example it will tell you that SL76/142 - the Paul Hawkins car 'is reputed to be buried in a gravel pit in Slough' but that 'two other cars have been constructed since with this chassis number'.
The revised and enlarged 3rd edition was issued in 2002 and shouldn't be too difficult to get hold of.
Jeremy Jackson 30 Jan 2004, 10:47 Pete, according to John Starkey's T70 book, at least 2 cars have appeared with chassis 142 since that fateful day in 1969... The remains of the original are "reputed to be buried in a gravel pit in Slough"
Gaps: (138 was the first 3B coupι, and there are 2 of these chassis now!)
139: Penske (Daytona 69 winner)
140: Penske (Spare car), raced occasionally thereafter
147: Louis Morand in 1969
152: Jacques Rey
154-158, 160-161 were constructed "post-production", but not sure when. 154 renumbered as SL76/137.
Most chassis are still current, but how much of the orignal is in some of them, I'm not sure. Another new chassis exists, 136, this number wasn't used in period, but is now on a 3B. (Carlos Barbot's car in Supersports)
Some histories are, as usual, murky!!
josvandeperre 30 Jan 2004, 10:47 Starkey has his own website with contact details
petestenning 30 Jan 2004, 10:54 Hi chaps many thanks for your info, i shall look into the John Starkey lead.
Regards Pete.
petestenning 30 Jan 2004, 11:01 With regards to chassis no 138 i have found that a t70 mk3 which had chassis 134 was sold to Sid Taylor racing,
could this be the one which ended up as the prototype mk3b?
Pete.
Jeremy Jackson 30 Jan 2004, 11:49 Pete, after Taylor & Techspeed, 134 went to David Piper and was used in the filming of "Le Mans" for the Ferrari crash sequence. 138 was the first 3B, and was the one shown at the Racing Car Show in Jan. 69.
Re: Starkey's book, I found the 3rd edition reduced (from £40 to £15.99) at Motor Books last year, and that price is still current. 3rd edition is the one to have. I also bought he first ediiton, but the third ironed out the errors / duplicated chassis info.
Cheers
Jeremy
petestenning 30 Jan 2004, 16:01 Thanks Jeremy i have just purchased a copy of the 3rd edition on line from Motor Books.
regards Peter
John Turner 30 Jan 2004, 21:04 Worth every penny!
Did the Swiss built Sbarro T70's have Lola chassis numbers???.
David McKinney 31 Jan 2004, 07:53 According to Starkey, yes
Current edition (January 2004) of French magazine Automobile Historique has a chassis-by-chassis history of Mk 3Bs in-period ownership and racing history.
John Turner 1 Feb 2004, 11:18 Pete, I've just thought of another book which might be useful even though it does not give chassis histories. 'Lola
T70 V8 Coupes - A Technical Appraisal' by Ian Bamsey, published by Foulis in 1990.
Steve Wilkinson 4 Feb 2005, 15:13 History of the Lola T70 Mk3B Chassis Number SL76/148:
Sold to Picko Troberg through Swedish agent Jo Bonnier
Later sold to Barrie Smith
Smith eventually sold it to Mike Weatherill who converted it to a road car. :rotate:
When Richard Bond bought the car from Weatherill he converted it back to racing spec.
He later sold the car to Marsh Plant Hire. :cool:
ricardo1954 5 Feb 2005, 00:16 In december of 1970, one Lola T-70 Mk 3 B ( chassis number ? ) race in the four races of the Copa Brasil , in Interlagos circuit. The driver is Wilson Fittipaldi Jr, and the results are:
Dec/06 - DNF
Dec/13 - First
Dec/22 - 3rd
Dec/27 - DNF
This car is sold to the brazilian driver Antonio Carlos Avallone, who race ten races in the year of 1971:
Jan/10 - Interlagos - First race - DNF
Jan/10 - Interlagos - Second race - 2nd
Jan/25 - Interlagos - DNF
Mar/21 - 12 H Interlagos - DNF
May/30- Tarumγ (BRA) - 7th
Jun/20 - Interlagos - 4th
Jun/27 - Buenos Aires (Arg) - 5th
Aug/15 - 250 Miles of Interlagos - 3rd
Sep/07 - 500 Km Interlagos - 5th
Dec/19 - Interlagos - 4th
Then, the car is sold to other brazilian driver, Mario Antunes, who enter with this in two races, in the year of 1972:
Jun/18 - Buenos Aires (ARG) - DNS
Sep/03 - 500 Km Interlagos - the car is destroyed in practice.
Can anyone help me to know this chassis number?
Thank you.
Ricardo
Jeremy Jackson 5 Feb 2005, 01:32 According to John Starkey's book, this was SL76/153, the ex Terry Croker car, allthough the info. about Mario Antunes is not in the book. (The book actually says is was sold to africa and and crashed).
The car has since been rebuilt and raced in ISP and other events.
ricardo1954 5 Feb 2005, 10:08 Jeremy:
Thank you for your information.
About Mario Antunes, the brazilian magazine " Quatro Rodas " in the number 147 (october/1972), on the page 133, says that the Lola is destroyed by fire in an accident in practice for the 500 Km Interlagos. The driver is safe.
Ricardo.
Jeremy Jackson 5 Feb 2005, 10:15 Thanks Ricardo, I wasn't doubting your information, sometimes things in the Starkey book can be contradictory, and incomplete in other cases.
Thanks for your information.
Al Weyman 5 Feb 2005, 20:05 Pete,
Paul Hawkins was once a friend of mine and a relly great bloke who I first met when he operated out of the same garage complex in Fortis Green as the people I was working for as a mechanic, Roger Nathan Racing. Paul was a great guy and it was a terrible day that will always be in my memory when I came into work on the Monday to be told he had been killed.
Although only a young guy of 19 I did a lot of business with Paul and some of the others in the complex (DAvid Piper was there) buying old racing tyres and even Borrani GT40 wheels and resellng them in Autosport (well I couldn't have ran a Healy 3000 on the money Mr. Nathan paid).
Anyhow I digress and this is the interesting part of my little tale which you may or may not believe but I assure you is as I recollect it. Paul had the Lola sitting at the back of the garage with no engine in it and absolutely covered in **** as they were more involved by then with the GT40's. So for weeks (months?) I kept badgering him to sell me the Lola without an engine as a roller. He kept saying to me 'What do you want it for yer crazy Limey' and I told him (and I meant it) I wanted to put a mild engine in it and run it on the road, to which he thought I was a total headcase but said if I wanted it I could have it for £750. Now remember this was the sixties and although a ridicoulously low price even then was still a tidy sum of money. I tried to negotitate at £650 and I think we agreed at £700 and I set about trying to raise the money.
Then sadly Paul meet his untimely death at Oulton Park before we had finalised the transacton and that was the end of that. Strange to think that dirty old car at the bottom of the garage that I so very nearly owned for the princely sum of 700 quid would hve been worth several million pounds today.
Al Weyman 5 Feb 2005, 20:16 Another little snippet of information for you on the T70, a few years later the accountant I was using at the time a Mr LeForte (John?) had a T70 and he used it on the road and used to often be seen around the streets of Mill Hill in NW London, painted red as I recollect. EVery time I went to see him he never wanted to discuss my accounts, just the Lola which although I enjoyed talking about it as I was paying for his time I would rather have been talking about my pending tax bill!.
:rofl: How do you think accountants manage to get to run Lola T70's as road cars? :rofl:
And the rest of us have to work to pay for the VW!
Alain HACHE 6 Feb 2005, 19:18 this chassis enterred Brands Hatch 6 hours race the 13 April 1969 . He was destroyed after a crash for broken suspension reason.
French magasine "AUTOMOBILE HISTORIQUE n°33 tell that Scuderia Filipinetti ordered a new car (sl 76/151) and used some parts of sl 76/145 .
At Le Mans Classic 2004 event the owner of the T70 with Jo Bonnier's colours tolled to me and friends that her car was builded from BH 69 crashed car ....
best regards
Alain
ricardo1954 12 Feb 2005, 14:57 Hello :
In 1969 another Lola T-70, a Mk 3 model, races in Brazil :
The Team De Paoli races the following races:
Jun/29 - 3 H da Guanabara - Rio de Janeiro - DNF - Marcelo de Paoli
Jul/27 - Regional Race - Rio de Janeiro - First - Marcio de Paoli
Aug/31- Prova Duque de Caxias - Rio de Janeiro - First - Marcelo de Paoli
Sep/21 - Regional Race - Rio de Janeiro - DNF - Marcio de Paoli
Oct/19 - 500 Km Fortaleza - DNF - Marcio/Marcelo de Paoli
Dec/13 - 1000 Km Guanabara - Rio de Janeiro - DNF - Marcio/Marcelo de Paoli
The car is sold to de driver Norman Casari in 1970, and races:
1970-
Nov/22 - 1000 Milhas Brasileiras-Interlagos - 10th Norman Casari/Jan Balder
Dec/27 - Copa Brasil - Interlagos - DNF - Norman Casari
1971-
May/30 - Torneio SUDAM - Tarumγ (BRA) - 10th - Norman Casari
Jun/20 - Interlagos - Torneio Uniγo e Disciplina - DNF - Norman Casari
Aug/08 - 6 H Nova Lisboa (ANGOLA) - DNS - Norman Casari/Jan Balder
Sep/07 - 500 Km Interlagos - Destroyed in practice - Norman Casari (the driver is safe).
Can anyone help me to the chassis number?
Thank you.
Ricardo
Barriebrdc 1 Jun 2006, 06:42 Ricardo,
what we do know is that this car was not 148 as reported elsewhere on this blog site.
hope that helps,
Barriebrdc
John Turner 1 Jun 2006, 10:48 Well done for digging this one out, Barrie. Since I cannot readily identify the car that Ricardo refers to from John Starkey's book, I wonder whether, after a year he has found out from another source!
My initial enthusiasm for the Starkey book has been slightly tempered by the more recently acquired knowledge and feedback that there maybe some errors. It would be great to document the errors (quoting source for provenance) and also to fill some of the many (and understandable) gaps. These cars have been campaigned a lot in historic racing so there should be a lot of good info. out there. It would also be interesting to know how far the originator of this thread, Pete Stenning, has got with his research. I know you still post on this website, Pete, and hope you can catch up here, sometime!
Pete's first post, giving as it does a list (incomplete) of the 3B chassis nos. is justification for moving this into the chassis archive, for development. In the meantime, I'm going to leave the specific thread on SL73/148 (see below)on the main forum whilst we continue to acquire info. on it. Later, I'll add in the info to this thread in the archive!
http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83502
allenbrown 2 Jun 2006, 13:44 My initial enthusiasm for the Starkey book has been slightly tempered by the more recently acquired knowledge and feedback that there maybe some errors.
I think what Starkey has done on the T70s ranks alongside the very best works of research on individual models of car but with so many owners trying to pull the wool over his eyes, it's inevitable that some errors will have crept in. Any researcher is dependent on his sources, whether they be slightly inebriated Autosport journalists who failed to leave the bar in time to watch a GT race at Snetterton on a cold and rainy Saturday in March or owners who know there's something slightly iffy about the car they've just bought but are determined to get it the best possible write up on your web site or in your book. I don't actually know very much about F5000 cars - I only 'know' what I've read or been told and the value I add is in the interpretation of those 'facts'. Of the thousands of such facts on OldRacingCars.com, many will be erroneous. If only I knew which ones they were...
So yes, let's try to learn more about the T70s but I'd propose we send everything we discover to John so the 4th edition can be even better. Maybe we can even encourage John to use this thread as an errata in between editions.
Allen
John Turner 2 Jun 2006, 18:19 Well, I'm not going to name names, Allen, but it isn't just drivers who have been expressing concern about the accuracy, which I readily accept must be difficult to achieve on any chassis history. Oh, and I did say 'slightly tempered', and I have at least 4 of his books!
So yes, let's try to learn more about the T70s but I'd propose we send everything we discover to John so the 4th edition can be even better. Maybe we can even encourage John to use this thread as an errata in between editions.
Couldn't agree more with those sentiments. If you know John and can persuade him (or if he pops in here anonymously, as a guest), we'd love to have him aboard and contributing here!
Barriebrdc 14 Jun 2006, 17:27 Here is another bit of trivia about the T70, I understand from my old mechanic that the T70 he was working before coming to wrench on my car, was taken to Porsche, measured and checked over, some months before their 917 came out, that was interesting at the time, 1969!
Barriebrdc
petestenning 5 Aug 2006, 17:55 I have been away from this thread for too long and am fascinated by the information that has come to light.
In some instances we can assume that to cloud the issues are those cars whose original engine and chassis may have been separated and thus ending up with 2 cars claiming to be the original.
Like so many other people who think this car the most pretty looking sports car made , and ahead of their time in shape .
Pete
John Turner 5 Sep 2006, 12:02 This car is for sale by GTC, see here:-
http://www.guikasgtc.fr/cadre.asp
Good history of the car is also provided (which I have copied to a personal word doc. for future reference, since I guess this info. will disappear once the car is sold!)
John Turner 3 Oct 2006, 21:36 For sale by Autofocus on page 76 of the November issue of Classic & Sports Car. Described as 'Ex David Piper, full history, original car'.
John Starkey's T70 book does have errors. The contradictions on SL76/148 is just one of many other reasons to take his book with a grain of salt.
Thomas
John Turner 9 Jan 2007, 17:14 This where we are with this particular chassis so far, taken from the thread in the, main forum, and I have sent a copy of this history to Chris Beighton.
LOLA T70 Mk 3B SL76/148
Completed 12/03/1969
Gearbox No. LG600-184
Engine 304-011 Traco Chevrolet
1969
Sold to Picko Troberg, via Jo Bonnier
01/05 Magny Cours Troberg 4th OA (No.92)
04/05 Dijon Troberg 2nd OA (No. 5)
11/05 Spa 1000Kms Troberg/ B. Rothstein 11th OA (No.34)
01/06 Nurburgring 1000Kms Troberg/Rothstein DNS crashed
in practice by Rothstein - Total write off - remains retained by Troberg, who (apparently) has retained them to this day.
Lola supplied completely new car with same chassis no. to Troberg
06/07 Anderstorp Troberg - 4th
14/07 Magny Cours Ronnie Peterson - 1st OA
27/07 Zeltweg (Ostereichring) Peterson crashed following radius rod failure, and rolled several times - very extensively damaged.
??/08 - Crashed remains returned to Lola
??/08 - Crashed remains sold to Barrie Smith,
Lola built brand new car for Smith, using only the roof section and rebuilt engine and gearbox from the remains. The spare package included anything usable from the crashed remains
14/09 Anderstorp Barrie Smith 7th
21/09 Salzburgring Smith - ?
27/09 Zandvoort Smith DNF
19/10 Hockenheim Smith 6th
1970
11/01 Buenos Aires 1000Kms Smith/Ed Swart DNF
18/01 Buenos Aires 200miles Swart - ?
28/03 Thruxton G4/6 race Smith 4th OA
10/05 Fassberg Airfield Smith 5th
21/06 Monthlery G5/6 Smith - 4th
28/06 International Norisring Rennen Smith 9th
05/07 - Hockenheim Interserie Smith 6th
19/07 Magny Cours G5/6/7 Ronnie Peterson 5th
08/08 Karlskoga GP Sweden - ? 11th
13/09 - Phoenix Park Smith - 3rd (Alternator failed whilst leading)
??/09 Crystal Palace Smith - 1st
07/11 Kyalami 9 Hours Smith/Pretorious 7th
??/11 - Returned to UK (NB did not go to South America)
Sold to ? Farley date/year?
1974
Sold to Mike Weatherill who did not use it
Sold to Richard Bond
1975
12/07 Silverstone Unicognac Trophy Bond 2nd OA (No. 201 programme says car was red)
4 other races Bond has 2 x 1st, 1 x 5th, & 1 x 7th
1976
Sold to Geoffrey Marsh (Marsh Plant Hire)
Raced by Gerry Marshall
1981
Dubai Grand Prix Marshall 1st
1985
Sold to David Piper/Richard Attwood
1993
27/06 Thruxton Jonathan Baker 2nd OA
24-25/07 Silverstone Baker 2nd OA
07/08 Nurburgring Mauro Borella 4th in class
1996
04/08 Silverstone Coys The Visage Pre 72 Le Mans Chris Strakosch 3rd OA (No.15 car still painted red and entered by David Piper)
2002
Sold to a French Collector
Complete mechanical restoration which continued into 2003
2005
Sold to GTC
petestenning 6 Apr 2007, 10:40 I have recently received the following information regarding the above chassis which currently lives in Australia and is used in some historic events there.
Chassis SL76/149
Engine 350ci Chevrolet
Transmission Hewland LG600
Car History :-
Delivered in 1969 to Michael Grace d'Udy (Grand Bahama Racing Car Co.)
Raced 1969-1970 At Snetterton, Portugal,Kyalami,Killarney, Lourenco Marques,Sebring,Pietermaritzburg, Oulton Park, and Thruxton.
1ST at Oulton AND Thruxton
Driven by Frank Gardner & Michael D'Udy.
This car is currently Red with a Yellow stripe through the centre of the car and has been in Australia for several years..
I am seeking further information from my Australian contact which may include photos if they are not copyrighted and i have permission to publish.
Thanks to Paul from Melbourne for this information.
Peter
petestenning 7 Apr 2007, 11:44 Following my initial post, and continuing my research into the history of the Lola T70 mk3b, I have made some amendments. Here follows my revised list so far:
chassis no team sold to or used by
SL76/134 Tech Speed Racing
SL76/138 Sid Taylor Racing
SL76/139 Penske 'Daytona 69 Winner'
SL76/140 Penske 'Spare Car'
SL76/141 Sportscars Unlimited of Switz.
SL76/142 Paul Hawkins Racing LTD
SL76/143 Ecurie Bonnier
SL76/144 Team Elite
SL76/145 Scuderia Filipinetti
SL76/146 John Woolfe Racing
SL76/147 Louis Morand
SL76/148 Picko Troberg via Joachim Bonnier/Avalon Racing'Barrie Smith'
SL76/149 Grand Bahama Racing Car Co.
SL76/150 David Piper Autoracing
SL76/151 Scuderia Filipinetti
SL76/152 Jacques Rey
SL76/153 A& J Motors Chadwell Heath
Some of these cars were possibly written off in accidents, have they been rebuilt?, Paul Hawkins car for example. And if so did they retain their original chassis no.?
If anyone can fill in any further gaps I would be grateful. :) :)
Peter
The yellow with white/red stripe raced by Barbot and Baker has the serial number SL76-136. In my chassis source the Mk3B numbers start at 138. Is this a prototype car?
Edit: on second thought it might be one of the Mk3B Spiders. It does have the right body without the gullwing doors.
We have just published an article with shots of four different Mk3Bs:
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.php?file=car.php&carnum=3214
grp2viva 17 May 2007, 00:22 The yellow with white/red stripe raced by Barbot and Baker has the serial number SL76-136. In my chassis source the Mk3B numbers start at 138. Is this a prototype car?
Edit: on second thought it might be one of the Mk3B Spiders. It does have the right body without the gullwing doors.
Hello all. Well here goes with my first post. I actually prepare 76/136 and 76/138 amongst others for a living.Carlos Barbot's car, SL76/136, is actually a 1979 Continuation car. Lola used up a few of the spare numbers when they built these cars in '79-'82. nice shots on your 3b feature page. I think I was at all of those races. Will be at Brands with Carlos at the end of May.
Hope this helps.
Darren
CRC Racecar Engineering.
John Turner 17 May 2007, 19:10 I came across this forum whilst researching some history on my T70. I own the Ecurie Bonnier T70 MkIIIb SL76/143. Currently being rebuilt and is located in Lancashire. The Barbot (Portugal) and Sannett (USA) cars painted in the Bonnier colours are not the original car. Sannett caims his to be the original, however he does not have the original chassis plate as we do. It is beleived his car has been assembled from parts. Barbot's car was a production continuation car from the mid eighties I beleive, and very nice it is too.
Michael Hanson.
Copied over from thread in the History forum.
petestenning 17 May 2007, 20:21 Hello all. Well here goes with my first post. I actually prepare 76/136 and 76/138 amongst others for a living.Carlos Barbot's car, SL76/136, is actually a 1979 Continuation car. Lola used up a few of the spare numbers when they built these cars in '79-'82. nice shots on your 3b feature page. I think I was at all of those races. Will be at Brands with Carlos at the end of May.
Hope this helps.
Darren
CRC Racecar Engineering.#
Hi Darren,
Welcome and i shall also be at Brands in May so may stop and say hello.
Pete
grp2viva 18 May 2007, 00:10 #
Hi Darren,
Welcome and i shall also be at Brands in May so may stop and say hello.
Pete
Thanks for the welcome, Pete. Do come by and say "Hello" if you gat the chance. You can't miss us, BIG loud yellow thing:rotate: .
Darren
petestenning 29 May 2007, 22:10 Darren i was there on Sunday but the car was deserted every time i popped into the garage.
Sadly Carlos did not get far in the 1st race so i did not want to intrude in case there was a problem and i would get in the way.
Anyone know if the continuation series of T70's still use SL76/??? as chassis numbers?
I learnt that the Martine Birrane car at Brands is the 1st of these continuation cars.
The sight of 2 T70's side by side in the first few laps of race one gave me goose bumps, more than when i first saw these car at Snetterton in 1969 , however 7 did make the ground move for me,:laugh:
Pete
Perhaps my avatar should be SL76/136
tomwdfarley 8 Jul 2007, 18:05 I may be able to shed some light on one period in the life of the T70 chassis SL76/148. My father, John Farley, bought the T70 in 1971, changed the colour from red to dark blue and added some exhaust silencing before having it registered for road use. To the surprise of other road users, the car was driven as occasional transport around the South East of England for several years until he sold it to Mike Weatherill in 1974. One of the reasons John Farley bought the car was because he was so familiar with the Chevrolet engine. He was the first person to fit a V8 Chevrolet engine into a British Single seater racing car in 1962, turning a Formula 2 Cooper into the "Cooper-Chevrolet" which was very successful in hillclimbs, sprints and formula libre circuit racing in the hands of Chris Summers.
There is a reference to the car in Thoroughbred and Classis Cars (March 1976).
I would be most interested to see any recent photos of the car and to know when and where it will next be racing.
Tom Farley
John Turner 10 Jul 2007, 10:26 Tom,
Welcome, and great to fill some of those gaps in this car's history - I think that I'll have to update my summary, since I also have to take one of the previously claimed results out also. Team Tiger (Jon Finnemore/Chris Beighton) own this car now and Chris was hoping to have it out this season, but decided on a more extensive overhaul than originally envisaged (as is so often the way!). Not sure whether it will be out thid year, now.
petestenning 13 Jul 2007, 22:04 John if you can keep us informed as to when the Beighton car is likely to appear, especialy in the UK as i would like to be there and see the car.
Regards
Pete
PS i must catch up with you at one of these meetings.
John Turner 14 Jul 2007, 11:42 Ok, well my son now tells me that the Silverstone Classic at the end of this month was the target date for its first outing after rebuild, but I don't know whether that is still feasible. I'm going anyway!
John Turner 26 Dec 2007, 09:46 Further update on this chassis. Additional info in bold. Any reference to Ronnie Peterson, after 27/07/69 has disappeared. Barrie Smith has advised that the car Peterson won at Magny Cours with on 14/07/69 was SL76/143, and he knows this because he was there, coming 2nd in a Chevron B8. Barrie was also driving at the same venue a year later (19/07) to take the recorded 5th place. Thanks also to Tom Farley for additional info regarding his father's ownership provided earlier in this thread.
The car has been out this year and I'll update results in due course.
LOLA T70 Mk 3B SL76/148
Completed 12/03/1969
Gearbox No. LG600-184
Engine 304-011 Traco Chevrolet
1969
Sold to Picko Troberg, via Jo Bonnier
01/05 Magny Cours Troberg 4th OA (No.92)
04/05 Dijon Troberg 2nd OA (No. 5)
11/05 Spa 1000Kms Troberg/ B. Rothstein 11th OA (No.34)
01/06 Nurburgring 1000Kms Troberg/Rothstein DNS crashed
in practice by Rothstein - Total write off - remains retained by Troberg, who (apparently) has retained them to this day.
Lola supplied completely new car with same chassis no. to Troberg
06/07 Anderstorp Troberg - 4th
27/07 Zeltweg (Ostereichring) Peterson crashed following radius rod failure, and rolled several times - very extensively damaged.
??/08 - Crashed remains returned to Lola
??/08 - Crashed remains sold to Barrie Smith,
Lola built brand new car for Smith, using only the roof section and rebuilt engine and gearbox from the remains. The spares package included anything usable from the crashed remains
14/09 Anderstorp Barrie Smith 7th
21/09 Salzburgring Smith - ?
27/09 Zandvoort Smith DNF (puncture)
12/10 - Salzburgring - Smith - 4th
19/10 Hockenheim Smith 6th
1970
11/01 Buenos Aires 1000Kms Smith/Ed Swart DNF
18/01 Buenos Aires 200miles Swart - ?
28/03 Thruxton G4/6 race Smith 4th OA
10/05 Fassberg Airfield Smith 5th
21/06 Monthlery G5/6 Smith - 4th
28/06 International Norisring Rennen Smith 9th
05/07 - Hockenheim Interserie Smith 6th
19/07 Magny Cours G5/6/7 Smith 5th
08/08 Karlskoga GP Sweden - ? 11th
13/09 - Phoenix Park Smith - 3rd (Alternator failed whilst leading)
??/09 Crystal Palace Smith - 1st
07/11 Kyalami 9 Hours Smith/Pretorious 7th
??/11 - Returned to UK (NB did not go to South America)
1971
acquired by John Farley, who changed colour from red to dark blue, modified the exhaust silencing and registered for road use
1974
Sold to Mike Weatherill who did not use it
Sold to Richard Bond
1975
12/07 Silverstone Unicognac Trophy Bond 2nd OA (No. 201 programme says car was red)
4 other races Bond has 2 x 1st, 1 x 5th, & 1 x 7th
1976
Sold to Geoffrey Marsh (Marsh Plant Hire)
Raced by Gerry Marshall
1981
Dubai Grand Prix Marshall 1st
1985
Sold to David Piper/Richard Attwood
1993
27/06 Thruxton Jonathan Baker 2nd OA
24-25/07 Silverstone Baker 2nd OA
07/08 Nurburgring Mauro Borella 4th in class
1996
04/08 Silverstone Coys The Visage Pre 72 Le Mans Chris Strakosch 3rd OA (No.15 car still painted red and entered by David Piper)
2002
Sold to a French Collector
Complete mechanical restoration which continued into 2003
2005
Sold to GTC
petestenning 19 Jun 2008, 14:24 Following my initial post, and continuing my research into the history of the Lola T70 mk3b, I have made some amendments. Here follows my revised list so far:
chassis no team sold to or used by
SL76/134 Tech Speed Racing
SL76/138 Sid Taylor Racing
SL76/139 Penske 'Daytona 69 Winner'
SL76/140 Penske 'Spare Car'
SL76/141 Sportscars Unlimited of Switz.
SL76/142 Paul Hawkins Racing LTD
SL76/143 Ecurie Bonnier
SL76/144 Team Elite
SL76/145 Scuderia Filipinetti
SL76/146 John Woolfe Racing
SL76/147 Louis Morand/Alan Minshaw 08
SL76/148 Picko Troberg via Joachim Bonnier/Avalon Racing'Barrie Smith'/ Chris Beighton 08
SL76/149 Grand Bahama Racing Car Co./Wayne Park/Bob Sherrard07 AUS
SL76/150 David Piper Autoracing
SL76/151 Scuderia Filipinetti
SL76/152 Jacques Rey
SL76/153 A& J Motors Chadwell Heath
Some of these cars were possibly written off in accidents, have they been rebuilt?, Paul Hawkins car for example. And if so did they retain their original chassis no.?
If anyone can fill in any further gaps I would be grateful. :) :)
Peter
Updated 19/06/2008
grp2viva 20 Jun 2008, 21:53 Hi Peter.
Just a note for your list but, SL76/134 is not a 3b. Should be SL73/134, last Mk3. SL76/138 is the first 3b, with SL76/135 and SL76/136 being used on continuation cars around '78-'82.
Also if you are counting them, new build continuation cars,
HU76/159 David Coplowe.GB
HU76/160 Esmond Smith.GB
HU76/161 Pat?Hobart .USA.
HU76/162 Eduardo Davilla.ESP
HU76/163 Steve Tandy.GB
Are you going to LeMans Classic?
Darren.
petestenning 20 Jun 2008, 23:06 Thanks Darren,
I am counting the continuation cars , but they are only that as they have no history as such.
Unfortunately no i am not at the Le Mans Classic .
Pete
Hi Peter.
Just a note for your list but, SL76/134 is not a 3b. Should be SL73/134, last Mk3. SL76/138 is the first 3b, with SL76/135 and SL76/136 being used on continuation cars around '78-'82.
Also if you are counting them, new build continuation cars,
HU76/159 David Coplowe.GB
HU76/160 Esmond Smith.GB
HU76/161 Pat?Hobart .USA.
HU76/162 Eduardo Davilla.ESP
HU76/163 Steve Tandy.GB
Are you going to LeMans Classic?
Darren.
Hi Darren
I'll be there (do you actually work with/for Clive?).
From the provisional starting grid I noted a MkIII entered by Guikas. (Chassis 112?)
and 3 IIIBs.
#7 with Hinderer/Stretton
#14/ Minshaw (both of them?)
#33 Arnoux/Nakano/Mille, which I think is Chassis #156, a continuation car.
PS: John Starkey will also be there....
grp2viva 25 Jun 2008, 04:25 Hello.
Yes, I do work for Clive. Well, more sort of get paid doing your hobby full time:).
Also in Grid 5 are Claude Nahum's Mk3, SL73/110 entered under Bernard Thuner as Claude is down with the Mk2 GT40. And we are taking Carlos Barbot's 3b which is a reserve at the moment, but hoping to get a race.
Running Carlos' T280 in Grid 6 as well Hu 03, the ex-Takahara car we're just finishing rebuilding after 35 years in Japan.
Do come and say "Hi" if you get a chance.
Darren
Hello.
Yes, I do work for Clive. Well, more sort of get paid doing your hobby full time:).
Also in Grid 5 are Claude Nahum's Mk3, SL73/110 entered under Bernard Thuner as Claude is down with the Mk2 GT40. And we are taking Carlos Barbot's 3b which is a reserve at the moment, but hoping to get a race.
Running Carlos' T280 in Grid 6 as well Hu 03, the ex-Takahara car we're just finishing rebuilding after 35 years in Japan.
Do come and say "Hi" if you get a chance.
Darren
I will, thanks, I did not mention Claude's car because it is a Spyder...
could be a fast couple, Barbot and Baker...
Which one is HU03?
grp2viva 25 Jun 2008, 19:33 Claude's Mk 3 is a coupe, or it was when I looked this morning;) . HU03 is the ex- Takahara Racing T280. It has been in Japan for it's whole racing career, so it will be making it's debut at LMC. Just got to finish building it....Yes Barbot and Baker do make a quick couple. Qualified on pole for the last LMC and had a good run of results including chasing down the Ligier JS3 and a 917 until the throttle cable broke and put us out with 20 mins left to run. Should be good this year.
Can we post pictures on this thread?
Darren
petestenning 25 Jun 2008, 19:49 Darren you have my ideal job as a 60's mechanic i know the cars of that era well , just never at that age able to afford or get into the racing scene not untill the 70's with group 2 Camaro Z28.
My first real car race i took notice of was the Lola T70 MK3 B's at the Guards Trophy 1969, and have loved them ever since.
Pete
Claude's Mk 3 is a coupe, or it was when I looked this morning;)
damn, I should have known:) (I mixed things up with the Lang-Cooper)
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/260/Lola-T70-Mk3-Coupe-Chevrolet.html
grp2viva 25 Jun 2008, 21:51 Hi Pete.
The 60's was definetly a great era for racing. It's what got me hooked. I actually used to own the Blydenstien/ Gerry Marshall Viva GT group 2 car, as featured in the 100 sporting moments vid from Crystal Palace,(hence the e-mail address) and have always loved the era. Been in motorsport now for 32 years, since I started karting at 11, and this is my favourite branch of the sport. The racing is just so much more relaxed, and a lot more "friendly" rivalry seems to exist.
Anyway, enough "off-topic" from me. Bring on the T70's.
Darren
Can anybody (Darren?) reveal the identity of Lola T70 #7, raced in the LMC by Martin Stretton. The programme/chassis list says it is a IIIB, but it does look like a III.
Martin could not tell me the chassis number, but he mentioned that it was a rebodied Spyder.
grp2viva 13 Aug 2008, 19:17 I'll have a word with Clive at work tomorrow. He does know the car and yes it is a Mk 3 not a 3b as advertised. They have done that before with the same car, don't know why.
Sorry for the delay in posting but have only just caught up with the thread. Been a touch busy lately.
Cheers
Darren
grp2viva 20 Aug 2008, 22:03 Well, I did finally find out and it's 73/115. Sorry for the delay but like I said before, been a little busy;)
By for now.
Darren
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