Origins of Special Saloon Cars?

Jesper OH
3 Feb 2004, 00:19
I'm in the process of writing a piece about 30 years of Special Saloon Cars in Denmark.

The idea was imported from Britain, but when did SSC emerge there? I have some vague recollection about sometime in the 1960's, as a way of making saloon cars quick, without the costs of factory saloons of the time (like Team Lotus Cortinas?)

Anyway, can anyone help with a little more facts here I would be very glad.

Best regards
Jesper

driftwood
26 Aug 2004, 03:00
in the 60`s there where 2 types of saloon cars racing
Group 2 and later Group 5 with more mods than Gp 2
In club racing the previous years cars would often race in a sollon car race
come the 70`2 Group 2 was strong with factory supported teams group 1 crept in for standard road spec cars and club sloons allowed more modified cars
Its these cars that evloved into the sepcail saloon format where the wheelbase had to be +/_1 inch from standard but retain the silhouette shape
As time went buy lighter panels where added and wider arches covered wider wheels & engine transplants took place ie Imp engines into Minis -V8 into lotus cortinas etc

by the mid 70`s the cars had evolved with space frame front or rear ends attached to the steel shell and the next step was a full space frame car covered with glassfibre replica shell and some cars had formula car suspension wishbone/uprights added
it wasnt long before the super saloon came along these where the big engined cars and some had sports car chassis with glass bodies fitted or heavily modified steel shell cars with 4-8 litre v8 fitted ( see super saloon thread)
As time went by the special saloon format merged with the modsports to create the Donington GT series in the 1980`s and soon we had single seater chassis with europa & esprit- AC3000 lancia stratos/037 BMW M1 bodies fitted over F2 F5000 cars
we also had special chassis made for this series By Maguire for some body shapes ie Mini Imp skoda and lotus esprit

Some of the racers with the steel chassis cars wanted to run with their own type of production based car chassis and the Modified sloons came about and Thundersoloons was a another series for large engines saloon cars
Come the 1990s most of these series dwindled away
Some of the cars are now "classic" cars like Baby Bertha and do demo runs at tracks

Slippy Diff
26 Aug 2004, 04:36
If you can understand any of it ( and seeing as you are from Denmark, Sweden is not too far away!!) try this site!

http://www.modsport.just.nu/

driftwood
26 Aug 2004, 11:12
so slippy diff what about some info on NZ cars like Paul Fahey etc i did see somewhere a thread on some NZ saloon racing perhaps the TraNZam series
there ws a special soloon regatsry years ago and if you open up the treads for the beginning and scrollthru the 1st 10 pages or so you will find threads on thundersaloons super saloons with fotos and other associated race series as i mentioned above

Andrew Kitson
26 Aug 2004, 11:30
Special Saloons started in the mid-60s. Things like Doc Merfield's Cortina Mk1, mated with a big V8. Then there was Brian Tarrant's V8 engined Austin A40. We have many threads on these in the historic racing archive.The wheels got wider and the engines more potent. Doors, Bonnets and Bootlids were exchanged for lighter glass-fibre and through time to full spaceframe race cars.

ianselva
26 Aug 2004, 17:48
In the Special Saloons races in the 60s there were mainly highly modified but basically standard shell saloons such as Anglias, Imps and Minis of all sizes. Only gradually did the mods get wilder and further distanced from the original car.

rbs
27 Aug 2004, 09:06
Earlier in the sixties I remember some unusual Ford 95E Populars with larger engines than was intended. The Berpop
driven by Mike Berman and the Langrop engineering Langropular stand out. Gerry Dobbins Daimler enginrd Cortina
known as the Damfraud was less successful. John Hewittin the Tasman Anglia had many successes against american opposition. Pete Shelton's Cortina V8 was a regular at Silverstone at Nottingham Sports Car Club meetings.

ianselva
27 Aug 2004, 09:47
I suppose one of the earliest Special saloons was Les Ballamys Ford Pop. which was an upright Ford Popular with supercharged 100E engine, Les's own IFS and fibreglass one piece front. Although raced as an A7 not a Special saloon there was a cutdown Austin 7 saloon, which had the roof lowered till the screen pillars were about 6 " high which was raced by a guy , called I think Mike Forrest, who towed it on a trailer with a 30s Rolls Royce.




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