Ford Capri/rover Sd1

Thought I would put this in
As you can tell I'm a fan of the Capri & SD1
I am trying to find info & photo's of them in uk club racing
I'm especially trying to find anything on SLICK 50 class A but anything about any racing will do ie

SLICK 50
TOYO TYRES
FALKEN TYRES
GMS TICKETS MODIFIED
PRE 74
GROUP 1
K&N FILTERS
RALLYING
anything

Also I have the VFS videos for them except MODIFIED 1991 & SLICK 50 1992 (anyone help?)

Would be glad of any help or information at all

Thanks
d-b

Have you checked out our website d-b?
http://www.csccgb.co.uk/pages/kdphotos.asp

These are all from 2004. I have lots of others in our archives. I'll dig them back out and add a link to them in the near future.

Chris

Thanks Chris
nice photo's

by the way, is Richard Langevelds capri the ex Colin Potter car?

Thanks again
d-b

Richard's car is indeed the ex Potter Capri.

Thanks Peter

saw your website,very nice

got to ask,your MKII,had it anything to do with Rob Roe's 1990 Vecta Fast Ford car as I have cine film of it and its the same paint scheme as your MKII

thanks again
d-b

Yep it was the same car. Unfortunately it ran out of brakes at that meeting and became an ex Mark 11. :(

shame

It was bloody annoying at the time! We built the Mk111 in 5 weeks which also involved having the trailer stolen, buying a new one then having the stolen one returned.

5 WEEKS!!
Strewth

it takes me longer than that to get round to wash mine:unworthy:

sounds like you certainly had fun there

hi there

couple of queries if i may?

after seeing the Spa photo's on Peter Malletts website,who was driving the brown Capri Mk1 No 96?
i have a photo of that car (with bumpers) from Mallory Park 25/5/2003 being driven by Michael Smith as No 75.
was it him again?

also,after seeing a photo on the Europa Engineering site,who was racing the red Capri at Oulton Park on 26/4/2003?.i checked out the MST website and i think it was No12,Richard Wood but i don't know for sure.does anyone know?

thanks

d-b

Apologies for the delayed reply however:

The brown Capri 300E at Spa was driven by "M Smith" which is all the entry list says.

The Red Mk111 would most likely be David Margulies (sp).

Have you had a good look at my mate Gerry Cain's SDI? You will be drooling for a month, he should be out again in the Toyos this season after a sabatcal.

i have seen Gerry Cain's car.(very nice)
thats the one in the old Bastos E.T.C.C. colours with either Matain or Robertson on the side.
saw it in Toyo Tyres up against Robyn Woodger's red & yellow striped Rover

are there any others out there?

thanks

d-b

Gerry and Robyn had a coming together unfortunately sidelining Gerry for a while then Robyn went on to total his car at Mallory as I understand it. At one time in the ModProds we had a huge field of SDi, probably seven at some meetings, with me ad Ellis Bergman in our Camaros and Peter Barnes in his Holden it was like a V8 championship, great. All seemed to have faded away now unfortunately, one of the problems is the the gearbox is a weak spot, I know Gerry does not use 5th and our rules stipulated you had to run the original box something prehaps that with hindsight may have been better to allow a bit more latitude on some models.

hi there

i was at the meeting when Robyn shortened his Rover
if i remember right he went up the back of a RS2000 at Mallory's new Edwina's corner (rotten corner,too tight for cars)
shame to hear that it finished the car off

Hi d-b
I raced a Capri in the Slick 50's 1987-91, Toyo Supers 1992-94 & Falken Modprods 1995-97, a friend that used to come with me was pretty hot with the camera, I've probably got well over 500 pics from then and probably every Slick 50 Capri and most Rovers.
Are there any in particular ones your after ?

Here are a couple of pics that were already on my hard drive......

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/Sarnie/vvw2w.jpg
Brands 1990, mines the blue one, notice the ex-press 2.8i VVW 2W driven by Andrew Howells and before that Graham Scarborough's Letchworth Roofing Prod Saloon, this car has now been restored back to it's press car days.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/Sarnie/DT90.jpg
Dave Thomas trying hard to catch Jim Wheals round Druids 1990

Hi Al hows the Camaro ?

Simon Light

hi there

simon i bow down to you

first saw you in 1989 as car 42 at Mallory/1990 car 5 (Mallory) & toyo 1993 car 11

brilliant

as for photo's i would like anything

ps did David Thomas go to toyo as well?

d-b

David races with the CTCRC in Classic Thunder with an ex Group 1 Spice Capri in Group 2 guise.

hi there

i have seen David Thomas in MKI,II & III Capri's (always blue & white) but i have,on an Oulton Park Greatest Hits video his ex Slick 50 gold Capri spinning in i think a Toyo Tyres race and i was wondering if it was him or if he had sold it to someone else

d-b

Thanks d-b :)

DT's mount back in '87 when I started was this blue 3.0S, which was then sold to Mike Hodder who painted it red (Dave borrowed it as a 'T car' at Oulton in '88 see pic). Then it went to Nigel Williams.

Dave did some races in the Supers in '91 in his gold 3.0S, then sold it to Tony Herbert who had been racing a peppermint green 2.8i in the Supers, can't remember if Tony ever got out in the gold car.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/Sarnie/dt87.jpg

Are you gathering pics to do a website ?, something I've been thinking of doing for a while but will probably never get round to it !

hi there

thanks for the pics Simon

i only have photos from 1989/90/92-95

i have photo's of that car as Mike Hodder 31 & Nigel Williams 46


i first saw Slick 50 in 1989 and instantly loved them as i love SD1's & Capri's
my home track was Mallory & i photographed every Rover & Capri i could find(still do)
any photo's i could take were for my own collection

thanks

d-b

What, you mean you missed me winning the Slick 50 Championship in the last round at Mallory in 1991 :)

Here's the Falkens at your local, Gerry, me, Andrew McKenzie & Peter barnes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/Sarnie/mp.jpg

Thats fine for your own collection, I did put a couple of pics on a Capri forum which then ended up on a Capri Compilation CD on ebay !!!, I wouldn't of minded if I had been asked.
I'll have to dig the albums out and try and fill in some of your gaps.

hi there

yes i did miss 1991 but i have a copy of the VFS Videos 1991 championship so i did see it (sort of)

all my photo's are for my private collection only

thanks

d-b

Hi Simon, how are you? Niice to hear from you. I still have the Chevys (all 3 of them).

Thanks for posting those pictures they bought back some good memories. Interesting to see Peter barnes in the ex-Brock Holden there as he was a great Capri exponant (Mk 1 and 2) and we had many a good dice. One of the reasons me had such a hardcore of Capris in the ModProds was that we (The Racing Saloon Car Club) also started the Capri Challenge at around the same time we started the ModProds and the idea was for a seprate series of Capri only races. Unfortunately the entries were a bit slow coming in so we had to almalgamate them into the ModProds. Do you remeber the Fuller brothers David and Adrian. Davis ditched the 3 liitre and ran with a 2.4 Holbay Pinto and actually went faster. I have a few pickies in the shop I will try to remember to scan them in and post them. Keep up the good work.

PS That last picture, was'nt that what the ModProds were all about. Rover, Capri, Opel Monza (not my ill fated chevy Monza :Shrug: ) and Holden, where would you find a muscle mix like that on road rubber, great!

hi there

Peter Barnes also raced MKIII Capri's (i have a photo of his MKIII with Derek Barnes's MKIII & Dave Fuller's MKIII from Mallory 1993)

d-b

M2 and Mk3's so similair I call them the same just a bit of cosmetics apart from the 2.8 and anyone with half a brain raced the 3 litre Wessex as in our regs you could get more out of them than the siamesed ported Colne engine.

Last time I spoke with Peter he wanted to buy my Black Camaro in the avatar for Derek to drive but I decided not to sell at that time, silly really as they would have made it work as it should have.

hi there

agreed
there wasn't much difference between a II & a III
and the ones i saw did always seem to by 3.0's (nice sound)

d-b

Hi Al I'm fine thanks, wow 3 that sounds like a lot of work ?

Here's one of you at Mallory.........
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v412/Sarnie/Camaro.jpg

As you say there used to be a lot of good cars out back then, must be gathering dust in the garage like mine :(
I did register for the Capri Challenge, but as I was chasing the Slick 50 championship I never got round to doing a race.
Yes the Essex was definitely the better V6, most used 3.4's with triple carbs, but I was getting more out of a 3.1 on a single Weber IDA and using 8200rpm.

Wow thanks for that Simon, thats a great shot. The third car is my IROC 2nd Gen racer that I am trying to restore, there is an extra thread on it on here somewhere. So why are you not racing Simon, I guess like the rest of us it just got too damned expensive eh? When I started Hot Rod racing in the 70's I was actually pad £15 to £25 to turn up, when I first went circuit racing iin the late 80's the entry fee was around £45, what is it this year £145 for a ten minute run around, this iis what has killed club motorsport I don't care what they say on other threads, it is cost first and cost last, end of story.

hi there

glad to hear that you still have your Capri,Simon
most of the others seem to have gone now though there are a few left that i know of

apparantly James & Duncan Aukland's Europa Saloon Championship cars are their old S50 cars as was Alan Collinson's 2 years ago
David Porter's red & yellow Rover was raced in Group 1 by Peter Holton last year
Chris Milward's Rover is now,i think,a track day car
Tim Hood's Capri has been in the Fast Ford championship driven by John Sansome
& Nick Ellis's Capri was in Group 1

other than that i'm not sure,but i'm glad your car is still around

d-b

D-B Gerry Cain's Bastos Rover look alike will be back out again this year in the Mod-Prods he has now almost fiinished the rebuild.

hi there

Good news there

though it was a shame to hear about Robyn Woodger's car

d-b

I shall look for the thread and have a read.
Well I last raced in '97 then had a daughter in '98 and a son in '99 so that put an end to spending loads on the race car. As you say it's just too damned expensive with the cost of entry fees now and fuel. Plus when you've been racing a while you get used to the money pit that is a race car, and when you stop for a few years and look in from the outside it seems even more expensive.
But I'm not selling the car because one day maybe :)

Yes it was, I have his old trailer actually. It was a shame the two titans took each other off and this is another reason some people get out the sport, a big shunt like that and you wonder is it all worth it when you are totally self financed.

I remember you first baby being born, I think I said to you at the time life will never be the same. I am sure you know why I gave up. .

I remember you first baby being born, I think I said to you at the time life will never be the same. I am sure you know why I gave up. .

Sorry about triple entry the board was playng up last nght and I cannot remove them because of the time limit.

Al I tried for half an hour to put a post up last night, gave up in the end and went to bed !
Was it engine problems which stopped you, are you planning to get out again in one of your chevy's ?
Glad to hear Gerry's still going.

d-b I guess a lot of the Slick 50 cars got returned to the road or used for trackdays, I did a couple of trackdays in mine, a friends boss who has a Ferrari 355 and takes his trackdays seriously said he would kick my behind, so after I blew his doors off I made sure he had a large helping of humble pie :)

If you pm me your email I'll scan some pics in the week, and if you have any post '97 that would be great, and likewise would be for my own personnel collection only.

I think the site went down last night Simon.

I had initial clutch problems with the car, not enough clearance for the triple plate and a hydraulic release bearing, no names who was responsible but they buld a good Rover!! Then after I sorted that the reason the car kept cutting out after a couple of laps like when I was at Oulton and had a back of the grid start and got up to about third or fourth by the first bend only to cut out after a couple of laps and limp home was a combination of a faulty fuel pressure guage (new Holley) and pressure regulator (new Holley) plus crap under the carb inlet valve seat really threw me but a Filter King and new guage solved the problem. I have taken it out for a couple of track days and it is serously quick now and holds together. I have bee developing the suspension a bit and hope to get t out for another test soon as the back axle was trying to climb out under braking and something was gonna break.

No the reason I initially stood down as chairman of the club was I had got a bit disolousioned after waiting all weekend in the fog at Donnington Park then going for a brief practice to get black flagged for dropping fuel and unfortunately because I was in a left hooker failed to spot the flag and was hauled up in front of the Clerk. I appologised and explained my case but he would not listen and I did not like the way he spoke to me like some little naughty school boy then when he told me he was fining me a hundred quid that was the last straw. Three weeks after standing down I lost my 18 year old son James in a road car accident, you may remember him he was always with me at the track since he was about 8, so I never did make a comeback. He was a great fan of Mini's and the Rason boys, in fact I bought the Mini he crashed of Mick so I guess I blamed myself and the sport a bit for what happened. I realise now that I was wrong but when something like this happens you don't think straight.

Yes I remember seeing your son at the meetings, very sorry to hear of your loss I didn't know.

I remember me and Gerry both had a run in with the Clerk of the Course at Donington after exiting the pitlane under red lights in practice. The sun was very low over redgate and you couldn't see it was red, it's not as if we would have both deliberately ignored the red light but they wouldn't have it and we got our licences endorsed.

Lots of SD1s out in K&N NW sports/saloons (there's even a sub-class for them): http://www.barc.net/northwest/nwestchamp.htm

hi there

Simon i will pm you my e-mail when i find out what it is (sounds stupid doesn't it but i can't remember the end bit so will send it when i find out)

ps what are you after post 97 ?

Graeme thank you for the N.W.Sports Saloons site

it looks like Ruth Sutcliffe's old Slick 50 rover in the background (blue & green)


by the way i think the site did crash that night as i couldn't do anything in the end
either

d-b

hi there

Simon i have pm'd you (i think)
sorry about the delay

d-b

d-b Gerry Cain is taking the Rover out at Thruxton this Monday for the first time in some while.

Hi d-b

I've got an SD1 that was built to Group 1 regulations in 2000/1

Picture at Silverstone 2002
http://www.seanhayes.co.uk/images/94silverstone2002-1.jpg

Managed to race it in a Group A style at the RMU Classic, Spa, last year as well
http://forseilles.net/gallery/rmu2004/IMG_8338_R
http://www.racingpincus.com/2004/r.m.u.%20classics/pages/RMU%20CLASSIC%20%20%20%20012%20.html

regards
Sean

I came across this thread by accident, while having a browse! I have a good number of old programmes dating back to the early 90's featuring Said Rovers. Capris etc. That's the trouble of being a horder! If anyone of you could make use of them you would be very welcome. If interested then PM me for more info. (I could use the space)

d-b Gerry Cain is taking the Rover out at Thruxton this Monday for the first time in some while.

Was that the flared arched SD1 that stormed it's race (can't keep up with all these historic series)? Looked damn fast down the pit straight, though find it hard to believe it was the only car faster than the Caterhams.

That was Nigel Garrett's 5.0l example. Gerry had a problem in practice and didn't race. Not sure what the problem was though.

He broke the torque tube on the car on the first lap of practise, first time it has happened in about 10 years of racing the car.

Hi All
Back in the early ninties there were quite a few capri,s running in the Mod/Prod. I too ran a black 3.0 S with the likes of Adrian/Dave Fuller, Kim Houghton, Colin Stott, Peter/Derek Barnes, Derek Wilman, and John Warren. John Warrens Immaculate 3.0 S now resides down here with me in New Zealand. Unfortunately this site permits me from attaching some photos of John Warrens Capri....well atleast until they feel i am a worthy contributor to this site.
The capri runs a neil brown engine with triple carbs, hewland close ratio kit, 17" wheels under standard wings, fully rose jointed suspension etc. If any one has any old photos of Johns capri from those days i would love to see them.
all the best
Mark Babb

Welcome Mark.

If you'd like someone to post an image for you why not contact Tim D or Paulzinho?

Failing that get posting!!!! ;)

Email it to me I will post t for you. John Warren, lovely guy had many a race with him in the old Camaro. My limited budget but big cc's put me on a level footing with many of the Capris, at the shop I think I have a good shot of me, Phil Rowley and John Warren at Oulton Park heading into Cascades I think it was, if I remember I will scan it in and post iit tomorrow. Johns cars were always mmaculate and he asked for permission to prepare and run a 24valve Granada with a by to allow him to run the Police spec manual trans instead of the standard auto trans. I was all for it and recon it wasin the spirit of the regs but as often happens the rest of the committee had other ideas (as Chairman I should have overuled them and to hell with democracy :-) ), big shame as he would have built a great car I am sure.

hi there

back again

couldn't get to thruxton but saw photo's on CSCC site

Sean
looked like you had some company in that race,how did you do ?

wheren't you part of the Raven Motorsport team ?

i have photo's of Kingsley Martin (93) & car 96 (which didn't race) at mallory 7/4/02
& Kingsley (93) & Stephen Keating (96) 2003

by the way on the Castlesport website there is a photo of a blue (green?) SD1 at what looks like Brands Hatch (which one was that)

thanks

Mark

i did get to see one of John Warrens Capri's at Mallory Park (26/9/99)
(red with yellow bumpers etc)
i have two paddock photo's of it & when i get a new scanner (soon) i'll send you them if you're interested

well thank you all again

d-b

Can we not post images here anymore as I had a good shot of John warrens Capri chasing me in my old tank.

Thanks for the PM Peter but that upload option is definitely no longer available for me anyhow, any ideas why I can't upload pickys anybody.

Al,

Let's not discuss this here it off topic. Tim D can provide the answer.

Thought it might be nice to say with the recent demise of MG Rover that i' like to thanks them along with the likes of TWR and Rouse for producing one of the best sounding racing cars i'e ever heard....

The Rover SD1 Vitesse,

Not my favourite, but a legend all the same

Don't thank them, thank GM Buick division for designing the thing, Rovor or Leylands attempt at a V8 was the absolutely appaling thing they stuck in the Triumph Stag, what a horrible piece of engineering. (and I still cant post pictures anymore!)

Point taken, but the sentiment was right though wasn't it?

hi there

back again

couldn't get to thruxton but saw photo's on CSCC site

Sean
looked like you had some company in that race,how did you do ?

wheren't you part of the Raven Motorsport team ?

i have photo's of Kingsley Martin (93) & car 96 (which didn't race) at mallory 7/4/02
& Kingsley (93) & Stephen Keating (96) 2003

by the way on the Castlesport website there is a photo of a blue (green?) SD1 at what looks like Brands Hatch (which one was that)

thanks

Mark

i did get to see one of John Warrens Capri's at Mallory Park (26/9/99)
(red with yellow bumpers etc)
i have two paddock photo's of it & when i get a new scanner (soon) i'll send you them if you're interested

well thank you all again

d-b

In the picture with the Capri I came second in class to that Capri.
In the Spa picture the brake pedal went long so a retirement.
My car was built by Raven Motorsport.
Do you have links to image samples from 2003 of #93/96?
I can't get to the castlesport website - do you have a link to the other Rover you're referring to?

Sean

Point taken, but the sentiment was right though wasn't it?
At least they (Leyland) had the sense to buy the rights for the Buick engine from GM, word has it that when the fuel crisis hit GM wanted it back as they had no small capacity lightweight engine in their line up and only desposed in the first place as the US market had gone big Cubic Inch crazy.