frederick 7 Jan 2005, 00:54 Sorting through a cupboard in my garage I happened across some photos I had taken of Motorsport when I was living in Sydney
some of these date back 30 years or more (Geez, am I THAT old?)
I thought it might be interesting to see if some of you can identify a few of them
4W: who what when where, bragging rights only, the only clue is "Farm"
http://img65.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img65&image=image10uy.jpg
http://img102.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img102&image=image28fh.jpg
http://img102.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img102&image=image37ih.jpg
http://img102.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img102&image=image41nf.jpg
http://img102.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img102&image=image51nq.jpg
there was a website I found a few months ago that was looking for old Australian motorsport pics in order to preserve them,
I have lost the URL and their contact details, can anyone help?,
there are about a dozen rolls of film involved, most of them are Colour and the negatives are present
frederick 7 Jan 2005, 00:58 Hmmm, Rats!
I was hoping the pics would appear, not just the link
I'm using Image Shack to host them , so they are quite safe to click but i will try to use a different link to get them to display
frederick 7 Jan 2005, 01:05 Second attempt
4W: who what when where, bragging rights only, the only clue is "Farm"
Nope
that didn't work either
ah THWI it's the thought that counts
I think there is a some little trick to linking image shack images.
Unfortunately my mind is full of other useless garbage so I can't remember. :rofl:
There is an image size restriction on this BB. Try resizing them smaller, or post thumbnails as a link.
frederick 7 Jan 2005, 03:03 Third attempt
4W: who what when where, bragging rights only, the only clue is "Farm"
http://img65.exs.cx/img65/1489/image10uy.th.jpg (http://img65.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img65&image=image10uy.jpg)
http://img102.exs.cx/img102/9266/image28fh.th.jpg (http://img102.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img102&image=image28fh.jpg)
http://img102.exs.cx/img102/8454/image37ih.th.jpg (http://img102.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img102&image=image37ih.jpg)
http://img102.exs.cx/img102/5913/image41nf.th.jpg (http://img102.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img102&image=image41nf.jpg)
http://img102.exs.cx/img102/8214/image51nq.th.jpg (http://img102.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img102&image=image51nq.jpg)
frederick 7 Jan 2005, 03:05 FIGJAM
just a question of using the right option out of the five available
Steve Holmes 7 Jan 2005, 03:10 Hey frederick, great pics! Got any old touring car shots?
The website you're probably thinking of is Chris Meadons 'Motorsport Archive'. Great website. Your neat shots would be a great addition to the site.
http://members.tripod.com/motorsportarchive/
Bruce Moxon 7 Jan 2005, 03:27 I got the first two - Teddy Pilette and Max Stewart. Is the fourth car a Matich?
I remember F5000s at the Farm too - just awsome. Actually, they were awsome cars anwhere. Of course, Stewart's car wasn't a F5000 - it was a Waggot engine in that car from the look of it.
Thanks for posting them.
Bruce Moxon
Bryan Miller 7 Jan 2005, 04:38 Feb.13th 1971 .
Place ,the Hallowed ''FARM ''.
# 34, Racing Team VDS , Teeddy Pilette, McLaren M10B .
#6 , Max Stewart Motors [ Seiko Service Centre ] Elfin MR5 Repco V8.
#2 , Team Surtees , [ Mike Hailwood ] Surtees TS8/11 Chev.
# 10 , Hobbs Racing London [ David Hobbs ] McLaren M22 , Chev.
# , 22 , Grid International [ Graham McRae ] Leda GM1-Chev .
Bryan.
Bruce Moxon 7 Jan 2005, 04:41 Oops - oh well, one out of five!
BM
frederick 7 Jan 2005, 13:51 Perfect score Bryan.......
I didn't think anyone would get the Teddy Pilette Pic!!
that GM1 is certainly a neat looking package compared to the agricultural looking devices of Hobbs and Pilette
frederick 8 Jan 2005, 05:02 a few more for the sake of interest
I have contacted Chris and will be sending all my pics to him for his website, hopefully some of them will be of interest to y'all
http://img39.exs.cx/img39/5150/mochbr2cz.th.jpg (http://img39.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img39&image=mochbr2cz.jpg)
http://img39.exs.cx/img39/1128/moff18eb.th.jpg (http://img39.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img39&image=moff18eb.jpg)
http://img39.exs.cx/img39/6871/moff28qy.th.jpg (http://img39.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img39&image=moff28qy.jpg)
http://img39.exs.cx/img39/5343/moff38ql.th.jpg (http://img39.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img39&image=moff38ql.jpg)
http://img146.exs.cx/img146/1849/craven2fy.th.jpg (http://img146.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img146&image=craven2fy.jpg)
http://img146.exs.cx/img146/226/craven23yq.th.jpg (http://img146.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img146&image=craven23yq.jpg)
frederick 8 Jan 2005, 05:36 And......
Racin' 101 "The correct way to negotiate a corner"
http://img129.exs.cx/img129/8887/correct0ai.th.jpg (http://img129.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img129&image=correct0ai.jpg)
Bruce Moxon 24 Jan 2005, 03:36 1 Fred Gibson leading Leo Geoghegan. It looks a bit like Warwick Farm, but I was too young to really remember. The Torana? Bob Morris? Don Holland? Maybe Colin Bond, come to think of it. Early to mid 1972 - one of the South Pacific races?
2 Toby Lee race at Oran Park. Allan Moffat from Bryan Thompson (Torana) and Bill Brown in the Porsche. About the same time.
3 and 4 are Moffat at Oran Park, coming off the Dogleg.
5 and 6 are Pete Geoghegan's Monaro. Debuted in 1974 in the Craven Mild colours. Again, going from a flawed memory.
7 and 8 - Hmm a Bowin P4 Formula Ford? A strip of tartan on the helmet - is that Peter Finlay? I thought PF was either in Eupope or North America at this time.
Righto, who else was driving a Formula Ford then? Ah - hah! Is it John Leffler? Yes, that's it.
I think
Bruce Moxon
Bob Riebe 24 Jan 2005, 03:51 I love the sedan pony car pictures Frederick!
Tasmania, is that on the border between South Dakota and Nebraska? :cool:
Bob
Bruce Moxon 24 Jan 2005, 03:54 Bob, that Mustang is one of the four Trans-Am cars built by Kar-Kraft. It's a pretty important bit of kit, over here. Allan Moffat had an almost unbelievable record in that car - and nobody else has ever raced it.
And Tasmania is about that cold, yes!
Bruce Moxon
Bob Riebe 24 Jan 2005, 04:11 Bob, that Mustang is one of the four Trans-Am cars built by Kar-Kraft. It's a pretty important bit of kit, over here. Allan Moffat had an almost unbelievable record in that car - and nobody else has ever raced it.
And Tasmania is about that cold, yes!
Bruce Moxon
Ole' Moffy made a bit of a name over here too, and that Mustang, for what ever reason, I find more appealing than all the TA Mustang's over here.
Sadly someone over here bought Bob Jane's '68 car and "restored" (to me a better word is ofen butchered) it back to an earlier configuration, with far less history. :banghead:
I loved the huge fender flares it had before it was "restored"
I spoke with Joe Chamberlain, who sold one of his cars down-under, last year.
I wanted to do a free-lance article on his Corvettes he ran here but time and money often hate writing.
I am going to see if I cannot give it another shot this year.
Gods'speed
Bob
PS-If I get financially solvent again,I am going to come down there some summer when it is 100 degrees in the shade up here and cool off.
Nothing can beat a nice sunny 10 below morining with the sun glistening off a fresh snow, except a sunny 10 above morning....
Steve Holmes 24 Jan 2005, 08:05 Bob, Joe Chamberlain came to New Zealand on at least a couple of occasions in the '70s. First came at the end of 1970, and bought with him a Trans-Am '69 Camaro, which he sold here.
Then he came back two years later with another '69 model Trans-Am Camaro. Car was painted up like one of the Trans-Am AMC Javelins, and sponsored for its NZ races by American Airlines. Its a long shot, but do you know if that second car stayed here, or went back to the USA with him? During that time it was very popular for visiting race drivers to bring over an old car, and sell it to one of the locals to help pay for the holiday.
Bob Riebe 26 Jan 2005, 01:10 Bob, Joe Chamberlain came to New Zealand on at least a couple of occasions in the '70s. First came at the end of 1970, and bought with him a Trans-Am '69 Camaro, which he sold here.
Then he came back two years later with another '69 model Trans-Am Camaro. Car was painted up like one of the Trans-Am AMC Javelins, and sponsored for its NZ races by American Airlines. Its a long shot, but do you know if that second car stayed here, or went back to the USA with him? During that time it was very popular for visiting race drivers to bring over an old car, and sell it to one of the locals to help pay for the holiday.
He brought the second car back and used it to make a run for the Trans-Am Cat. I championship, in 1976.
He built his first Corvette in 1977.
Bob
Sadly someone over here bought Bob Jane's '68 car and "restored" (to me a better word is ofen butchered) it back to an earlier configuration, with far less history. :banghead:
I loved the huge fender flares it had before it was "restored"
...
Bob.
I keep hearing this car is in a museum: do you know who & where.
Aysedasi 26 Jan 2005, 13:41 Great pictures and even greater knowledge here........ :)
Steve Holmes 27 Jan 2005, 04:42 He brought the second car back and used it to make a run for the Trans-Am Cat. I championship, in 1976.
He built his first Corvette in 1977.
Bob
Thanks Bob. Well that's one mystery solved.
Re the Bob Jane Mustang, I have a photo of that car in either the Fast Fords, or Fast Mustangs book as it was, with the flared wheelarches. The car seemed in very original condition, but Jane never raced it with those flares like that, to the best of my knowledge. I'm wondering if they were fitted later in the cars life, perhaps for Sports Sedan competition by a later owner.
I understood the car went from Bob Jane Racing to Bob Stevens in Sydney,
Was it a Gr2 car?
Bob Riebe 1 Feb 2005, 20:20 Bob.
I keep hearing this car is in a museum: do you know who & where.
There is a Mustang site (some day I will learn to take the time an save to disk my 'puter info so I do not lose itr everytime my 'puter craps on me) that says, just what you asked.
I have time so I will see if I can dig it up.
Steve:
I have the same Fast Fords and bound copies of an Austaralian Motor Racing mag. annual.
I am pretty sure the big fenders were added for Sports Sedan racing, I will see if it is shown in the years I have in my annuals.
Bob
Chris - Melb 18 Feb 2005, 23:13 I have received Frederick's photos, but I have not had a chance to scan them yet as I have had major computer problems. In fact I have just handed my new computer back to the computer store!
Steve, Sorry for the slow response, but I have not had time to look at the forum for months. This is how Bob Jane's Mustang basically looked during the entire time he raced it: http://members.tripod.com/motorsportarchive/BJMustang1_web.jpg
The flared guards were originally an inch or two longer for the first few races, but that's all. I would have thought the car landed in the country with the flares.
Any other flares you have seen would have been added in the Bob Stevens Sports Sedan era of the car.
Bruce, I would have thought the Bowin FF pic was John Wright as It doesn't have Grace Bros livery.
Regards,
Chris.
Amonfan 21 Feb 2005, 22:08 I'll throw one out of left feild and say the Bowin P4 is none other than John Smith ;)
I think it's too early to be John Smith. Didn't he become prominent a couple of years later? And John Wright was a couple of years later again - 1978 or so.
I think it's a Grace Bros car - that looks like the diamond emblem behind the number on the front of the car. Wish we could get answers!
Kramer
Amonfan 24 Feb 2005, 03:03 Im pretty positive its John Smith circa 1977, fortunately i have a similar pic in RCN from the same era so ive kinda cheated, lol. I had initially thought John avis who drove the car in 1976. John Wright took over the car in 1978. Seems the car liked John's ;)
Okay. I was going by gut feel - so you're most likely right.
Still, great photos and great memories. I've got a whole lot of RCNs in boxes - must get them out and see if they are all right.
Kramer
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