Toleman / Royale RP21

pantah
16 Jan 2006, 11:40
I have aquired the ex-Toleman brothers 1976 Royale RP21. Since this was the Tolemans' first venture into motor racing, ultimately leading to their own F1 team, which became Benneton, then the current Renault team, it is quite an important car. we are restoring it back to original Toleman colours etc, but would appreciate any colour photos that anyone may have either in the hands of the Tolemans or Davif Wheeler who used it for a couple of seasons afterwards in the same colours.

I have already spoken to Alan Cornock about this, and he has no photos.... before anyone suggests it !!


Cheers.

Andy

Alan Raine
16 Jan 2006, 13:15
David Wheeler was sponsored by SDC. He also worked for them, although I am not sure if he still does. The company owners were into Motor Racing so might have some photos www.sdc.co.uk

Andrew Kitson
16 Jan 2006, 20:56
Very much doubt if Bob and Dave at SDC have any racing photos at all, especially of the Toleman FF1600s which were before their time. Dave Wheeler left SDC in the late 80s.
Alan C phoned me on this over Christmas. I reminded him that Dave Wheeler bought one of the 3 Toleman RP21s ( he's getting on a bit....joking Al if you are lurking!), I believe yours is the rebuilt one that Bob Toleman had his shunt in at Snetterton Andy? Alan was going to ask 'Wheels' if he had any pics - did he not get hold of him?

As I said to Alan, I don't have any colour shots but there is a nice black & white shot of David in his 21 on P149 of the Royale book 'Nowhere to hide'. It was mainly blue, but with an orange stripe bordered by two white stripes. The Toleman blue can be seen on the side of Rad's FF2000 on page 175, although I'm pretty sure the blue got lighter on this car but darker again on their F2 Ralts. For example the Toleman sponsored DFVW supersaloon was a much darker blue. The picture of Alan & David with the SDC car on page 179 ( with Jonathan Palmer's ex-JSM Joinery truck that David bought) is in the usual SDC blue, but I think the Toleman blue was a touch more
'purple'- a bit more red in it. I'll keep looking for pics.
Why not try a PM to 'Ted Walker' - Ferret photographics. Ted is a member here and has the copyright to many of the archives of the photographers on the scene at that time. He might have some colour ones but will need a race meeting date - i.e race meeting entered by Toleman at the time, race number etc as he has millions of negs tolook through. Give us a shout if you need a hand.

pantah
17 Jan 2006, 10:07
Thanks for the reply. naturally I have a copy of the book, with your VERY nice painting on the front. Don't suppose there are any large format prints of this painting available anywhere ????

I don't have the book here with me, but I have seen the BW photo on page 149. Since posting, Alan has informed me that the new body, in the correct colours is now ready to collect. I am trying to establish what other wording and decals were on the Toleman cars.

Any other info most welcome !!!

Cheers. Andy

Andrew Kitson
17 Jan 2006, 10:58
Here is the photo from the book, taken by John Gaisford.
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4204/sv77wheelerrp210je.jpg

As can be seen, David Wheeler raced it in 77/78 in the same colour scheme as the 1976 Toleman team of Ted & Bob Toleman with Alex Hawkridge in the 3rd car. Championship stickers can be seen on the chassis side panel - looks like 'Brush Fusegear', 'Townsend Thoresen' with a Duckhams sticker plus 'Ford' on the screen and David's Dish of the day (!) sticker from the Silverstone lady marshals. In '76 though, if the Tolemans had these stickers the 4 main Championships were BRDC Brush Fusegear, BARC DJM Records, RAC British & BRSCC Townsend Thoresen, plus Dunlop 'star of tomorrow' for novices.
If you want to contact Ted Walker for pics I have a programme from Mallory ( April 20/21st 1976 ) where Alex is entered in the Dunlop 'star of tomorrow' Championship. (Car no.3) Also have a Snetterton prog August 1st with Alex (no.14) and Bob (no.15) entered in a non-championship FF race 'The Steve Colyer Trophy'
I guess where DW has his name on the side the Toleman guys would have too. Not sure if 'The Toleman Group' appeared on the cars, can't remember.
And yes, the painting is available as a print, overall size 44 x 60cm.

P.S. Just to correct you though Andy - this FF team was not their first involvement in the sport. That was sponsoring Colin Hawker's special saloon Capri in '74 then the awesome supersaloon DFVW in 75/76,which was built on the tub of the Gordon Murray designed 1972 Duckhams Special Le Mans car.
Sponsoring obviously gave them the bug to have a go themselves. Being involved with the Royale marque they met RP21 designer Rory Byrne who they employed for their F2 team and beyond.

Andrew Kitson
17 Jan 2006, 11:12
Just out of interest here is a pic from our archives here of the DFVW, although the FF would not have been 2-tone blue like this.
http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4252




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