Brabham BT40

Macau.

All references Philip Newsome from his book Colour and Noise.Except ch.no. notes.

18-11-1973.
A. Poon Brabham F2. ??????????????
McDonald in a BT40 , BT36 to ?????????????

1-12-1974.
Poon and McDonald both now in BT40's.

16-11-1975.

Misaki now in BT 40.

20-11-1977.
J. Ho in a Brabham. ?????

No more entities further.

Bryan.

Here is the list I have of BT40s in Canadian and SCCA races 1973 - 76. This is very incomplete for SCCA and 73-74 in Canada


1973

Alan Lader BT40
Craig Hill BT40 retained 1974
Mike Hall BT40 [Opert]
Ted Titmus BT40-33

South East Asia 1973
John Macdonald BT40 chassis no 35
Albert Poon BT40 kept for years and later raced by his wife
Brian Robertson BT40 [Opert]
also uses BT38 'ex Jaussaud' [Opert] this car also raced by de Adamich for Opert at Caracas, Venezuala


1974
Canada
Alan Karlberg Probably a BT40
Bill Eagles BT40
Craig Hill BT40
Peter Ferguson BT40 at Edmonton [as Ferguson races a Chevron B20 at Westwood and later in the season at Mosport and Halifax I'm guessing that this car is badly damaged at Gimli, the race after Edmonton for which I have no report, or else it was a hire car]

SCCA
Norm Johnson BT40
Dan Carmichael BT40
Mike Hall BT40

1975
Canada
Ron Householder BT40 ex Alan Lader

SCCA
Mike Rand BT40
Ken Duclos BT40-17
John Elder BT40

1976
Howard Kelly BT40 ex Craig Hill


Anybody able to fit any of those into a pattern or offer connections?!!

Chris

Some comments on Chris's impressive list:

Plus Robertson in a BT40 in Canada 1973 - the car he raced for Opert in Asia?
Jaussaud also drove an Opert BT40 in 1973, I think Roos’s regular mount

Agree Jaussaud in an Opert BT40 in 1973 but described as a new car built for the race at Trois Rivieres

Robertson's BT40 is Opert

Chris

Some more digging in Canadian race results for 1973 gives us the following updates on Brabhams

BT40s
Lader
Hill [both already mentioned in this thread I tink]
plus
Bill Eagles
Gilles Leger


At Sanair R3 we have the appearance of Hugh Cree in an unspecified Brabham, Peter Overing in a BT38 [not the Powell car] and Lader races the Eagles BT40 after stuffing his own in practice

At Debert, R5, Roos races an Opert BT35, but at Mosport R7, he has a new BT40

Chris

I've been working through this thread identifying Sprint BT40s.

The one I can't identify is:

Brabham-Hart BDA BT40 (1.6) - John Hart

Thanks

Allen

My researches into Canadian and USA FB/Atlantic races have led me to the vexed question of Brabham BT40s. There are a lot of gaps which I'm hoping someone can fill. There seem to have been at least 35 built, but I can only account for about 20, with all of 12 tied to a chassis number. This seems to be the worst documented of all Brabhams.

This is what I have:

Chassis no
12 Works F2 car for Watson; 1974 rented by works to Bautrone for Estoril F2 race; then 1976 John Hart for H/C until 1979; then to Barrie Duntall to 1981 then Alan Cook for H/C 1982

14 John Wingfield, then 1974-5 loaned by Wingfield to Chequered Flag for Ray Mallock; end 75 used by Len Booysen in British Atlantic and taken home to S.Africa by him - but no sign of him racing it there.

15 Unknown in period, for sale at a Coys auction in 2000

17 Ken Duclos 1973 - 75 [at least] Recently for sale on race-cars.com

18 Chuck Dietrich 1973 at least, now being restored by Westerburg Collection

19 Vittorio Venturi [F2] then Shangry La 1974.

21 Graham Eden, mainly for Cyd Williams until 1975, then David Winstanley 1976 -77. Williams had a big accident in a BT40 before this number is noted on his chassis, so there may have been an earlier BT40 written off in that accident

27 Unknown in period, now in Matthews Collection

30 unknown in period. 2003 owned by Mike Fazzi with an SCCA log book from 1980 with only school activity and a few vintage races

33 Ted Titmus [USA] to 1974 at least. Recently for sale on race-cars.com

35 John MacDonald [HK] to 1976, then to Pocholo Ramirez, 1988 to Jason Ho, 1992 to present owner Neville Mackay

36 Works F2 car for de Adamich; 1974 - 77 Tom O'Leary, then unknown until 1981 Chris Charlett in W. Indies, recently sold on race-cars.com

Here are the unknown cars

Opert
The Robertson car. Debuted at Singapore GP by Brian Robertson in April 73 and trashed. Rebuilt and used as hire car by Opert team in 1974 Canadian series.

The Hall car. Used by Mike Hall in pro series in 1973 and mainly SCCA 1974

The Roos car. New for Bertil Roos in Canadian series, August 1973

The Jaussaud car. New for Jean-Pierre at Trois Rivieres Sept 1973

Others
The Reeves car. Intended Ed Reeves for Dave Morgan to run 1973 F2 series. Crashed badly in testing and never raced. Sold to someone in Kent in 1976 but again never raced.

The Poon car. Albert Poon 1973, still being used by Mrs Poon in S.Asian races in 1977

The Lader car. New for Alan Lader 1973 [maybe run by Opert]. Ron Householder in Canada 1974-75

The Hill car. New for Craig Hill, 1973. Kept 74, appears with Howard Kelly in Canada 1976

The Leger car. New for Gilles Leger Canadian series 1973

The Eagles car. New for Bill Eagles, 1973 US/Canada, retained 74.

Where on earth did the rest go? Were they all in SCCA races?

Chris

Chris,BT40-30 was delivered new to the USA with BDA to Olie(Bill)Meyers in 73,he then sold car to his 2 Mechanics,Victor Tostado and Mark Munroe,Mark was the driver and unfortunatly was killed in a sprintcar in late 70's,car was sold to a Richard Christ,then John Whitton .Mike Fazzi sold the car recently.There are 2 other cars in Oz,Bryan Miller could give you the info on these,i believe they are both owned by Nev Mckay.

Chris,

BT40-12 , as you state John Watson , thence Wilson Fittipaldi for works .
John Hart for hillclimbs 1976 .
Barrie Dutnall , eng changed to Rover V8 for hillclimbs,1978/9.
Simon Law , hillclimbs , retired into storage after eng. blew up and retained untill 2000.
To Steve Worrand as restoration project. Not started.
2002 to Peter Boel of Brisbane Australia , and under restoration at the moment, with all correct components sourced , resides in Wynnum West , Queensland.

As Pete Brennan advised Nev. McKay has 2 x BT40s , one is BT40-35 and resides at Mona Vale in Australia , Nev also owns a second car which I am sure is the Albert Poon car , however this is still in S.E.Asia.
I will try to find out the chassis number.

Bryan. P.S. you gave up on the BT21's quickly.

Chris: There was a car in the Colorado area that may be the Bertil Roos
BT-40 It was owned and raced by Cam Macarthur (sp?), then sold to Terry Allard, then sold to Bill Swope in Albuquerque. I emailed Bill to get the chassis number, haven't received any reply, will keep trying. When Macarthur had the car for sale, he had an album of photos of the car's history, including some of Roos. Also had heard that the Fazzi car, #30, was sold and shipped to Australia.

A minor snippet: BT40-17 for sale in VM Sep/Oct 1992 p94 by Peter Gates as ex-Duclos. It was said to be totally restored with a new tub.

Allen

Chris,
I have a feeling the Len Booysen car is in Ireland. I remember him racing it at Kirkistown in period, and something that looked very like it (black/white livery from memory) was part of Tommy Reids collection the last time I was there.
Richard

Ron Householder still has his BT40, (at least he has A BT40, I have a picture of it that was taken about a month ago).
A friend of mine is going to see him next week, I'll have him look at the car and see what chassis number it is.

Jim

Chris, I just stumbled onto this site and have some information you may find interesting. In early 1975 I bought the Bertil Roos car from Fred Opert as a roller then bought a Hart motor from him later that spring. Before I bought it Bob Kime raced it as a Formula C with an 1100cc BDA. He was northeast division champ in '74 and finished second in the runoffs that year. I raced it in CENDIV nationals and regionals as an Atlantic through the '79 season. I sold the car to Cam in the spring of '90. All of the paperwork went with the car but if memory serves the chassis was #11. I remember giving Cam a picture of the car from the winners circle of a pro Formula B race at Watkins Glen in August of '72 with Bertil Roos, Fred Opert and Miss Columbo Yogurt. Hope this fills in some of the gaps. Gary Wallace

As far I am aware, the ex-Albert Poon car was trashed in Malaysia and has had its tub rebuilt by Neville Mackay (he's got the Macdonald Macau winning car). The Poon car is in pieces in Macau.

Thanks Gary and Eli. More gaps filled!

At the Donington 78 Irish F there was an Irish BT40 entered, can't recall the driver now tho'. Finally, at this time, ie Spring 78, Paul Hutson was doing some Libre races in a BT40, quite a smart red one as I recall. Any thoughts on the latter?

The Irish driver in a BT40 at Donington in 1978 was John Ledlie

Chris

Chassis no
12 Works F2 car for Watson; 1974 rented by works to Bautrone for Estoril F2 race; then 1976 John Hart for H/C until 1979; then to Barrie Duntall to 1981 then Alan Cook for H/C 1982



Chris, my father John, never actually had a BT40 .. What we had was a real secondhand BT38 that was seriously smashed by my brother Greg at Shelsey and rebuilt using a BT40 Tub .. No idea if teh tub had a chassis number and my father cannot remember either.. nobody cared then !!

I am sure that he got two BT40 tubs in one go and sold some on .. I remember going to brabhams and meeting bernie to buy some nice cotton reel rear wheels but not sure if brabham themselves were the tub suppliers.... any help ?

This post is to mark the point at which much of the material in this thread was split out from the giant Brabham BT28-29-30-35-36 thread and merged with a pre-existing BT40 thread. Much gratitude to John Turner.

Allen

I've had an idea!

Chris - you've identified about 20 BT40s in period so having chassis numbers as high as 36 doesn't make sense. But what if MRD didn't start from 1. Maybe they started from 11? Note that the BT38s appear to jump from BT38/1 to BT38/11. Note also that the one and only BT43 is often referred to as BT43/11, something I've never understood until now. Note that other manufacturers missed out numbers apparantly to give the impression of higher production figures.

Maybe the reason you can't find BT40-1 to BT40-10 is because they weren't built.

I looked in the Brabham+Ralt+Honda book at it says 28 BT40s were built, nine for F2 and 19 for FB. If my theory is right, you should be looking for chassis numbers 11, 12 and 14 through 39. That seems to square much better with what you have got so far.

Allen

Extra thought. I wondered for a moment why this practice would suddenly start with the BT38 but of course that was the first Geoff Ferris design and the first customer monocoque so numbering practice may have changed too.

Also, the BT38 was late, so delivering chassis 11 and 12 early in the season may have been a ploy to regain customer confidence.

Allen

Thruxton, April 23rd 1973

Heat One
51 Motor Racing Developments, Carlos Reutemann, Brabham BT40/33 (dna)
53 Marshall Wingfield Ltd, John Wingfield, Brabham BT40 BDA (dnf)

Heat Two
50 Motor Racing Developments, Wilson Fittapaldi, Brabham BT40/12 (dnf)
52 Motor Racing Develpoments, John Watson, Brabham BT40/15 (dna)

Official Programme/F2R

Thought you might like this shot I picked up from Ted labelled as Cyd Williams' Brabham BT40 at Silverstone F/Atl July 1975. Doesn't look a lot like a BT40 to me...

http://www.oldracingcars.com/images/ferret/BrabhamBT40-CydWilliams-GP75-400x.jpg (http://www.oldracingcars.com/images/ferret/BrabhamBT40-CydWilliams-GP75-1000x.jpg)

Hi Allen,
I do think it is a BT40,it has had a March body kit fitted.Roll hoop,oil filter mount ,wheels,fuel cell inspection cover in tub give it away.Mine looks the same.I will try to post a pic.
Cheers
Pete

Allen
Agree with Peter. Seems as though everyone tried to turn their car into a March! [Titmas put a March shovel nose on his BT40 and I got mighty confused in S.Africa 1977 with both a Chevron B34 and a Wheatcroft running 76 series March bodywork]

Chris

Agree chaps, thats how I remember the Eden BT40. Where did it go after David Winstanley?

For sale on Ebay

Brabham BT40 chassis, 1973 chassis built by Arch Motors who fabricated these chassis for Brabham. This was made for Mike Pilbeam and carries the chassis number MP03 who built it for hillclimbing.

This is a rolling chassis with no engine or gearbox but has everything else. Chassis and all components in fantastic condition.
I also know another BT40 for sale oop norf
i think it went to auction sometime this year not sold i recall

For sale on Ebay

Brabham BT40 chassis, 1973 chassis built by Arch Motors who fabricated these chassis for Brabham. This was made for Mike Pilbeam and carries the chassis number MP03 who built it for hillclimbing.

This is a rolling chassis with no engine or gearbox but has everything else. Chassis and all components in fantastic condition.
I also know another BT40 for sale oop norf
i think it went to auction sometime this year not sold i recall

This car is NOT a Brabham. It does not have a Brabham Chassis. The chassis were 'copies' made for the people who put the cars together. Mike Pilbeam agreed to the MP03 chassis number. The actual model is MP22.

See the Pilbeam thread.

i did think it was a replica as opposed to a brabham due to the plate but it was all before my time!

The tub and corners are identical to my BT40,roll hoop and rear suspension pick up points are not original.Parts have probably come from Arch Motors,don't know how the Brabham name got attached to it.

don't know how the Brabham name got attached to it.Presumably because the value of a BT40 is higher than that of a Pilbeam MP22. A David Hepworth hillclimb car that was built to a Brabham pattern is now racing in historics as a Brabham so I guess this sort of thing is going to happen.

Allen

... don't know how the Brabham name got attached to it.

Simple really. The car upon which it was based was originally the Alister Douglas-Osborn Brabham BT38. That car was modified twice by Mike Pilbeam first as the R15 then as the R22. When Malcolm Dungworth was developing the new Hillclimb Car for the Waring & Gillow Team he copied the R22 however there were no BT38 tubs about so they had a replica made. Before the first car was completed Mike Pilbeam was invited to inspect the work in progress and was so impressed that he allowed them to (a) call the car a Pilbeam, and (b) use the new format model number for the car (MP22).

:relax:

Here is the list I have of BT40s in Canadian and SCCA races 1973 - 76. This is very incomplete for SCCA and 73-74 in Canada


1973

Alan Lader BT40
Craig Hill BT40 retained 1974
Mike Hall BT40 [Opert]
Ted Titmus BT40-33

South East Asia 1973
John Macdonald BT40 chassis no 35
Albert Poon BT40 kept for years and later raced by his wife
Brian Robertson BT40 [Opert]
also uses BT38 'ex Jaussaud' [Opert] this car also raced by de Adamich for Opert at Caracas, Venezuala


1974
Canada
Alan Karlberg Probably a BT40
Bill Eagles BT40
Craig Hill BT40
Peter Ferguson BT40 at Edmonton [as Ferguson races a Chevron B20 at Westwood and later in the season at Mosport and Halifax I'm guessing that this car is badly damaged at Gimli, the race after Edmonton for which I have no report, or else it was a hire car]

SCCA
Norm Johnson BT40
Dan Carmichael BT40
Mike Hall BT40

1975
Canada
Ron Householder BT40 ex Alan Lader

SCCA
Mike Rand BT40
Ken Duclos BT40-17
John Elder BT40

1976
Howard Kelly BT40 ex Craig Hill


Anybody able to fit any of those into a pattern or offer connections?!!

Chris

Hi Chris:

Ron Householder still has the Alan Lader car in Portland Oregon.

JW Blackwell
argo/reynard FA

I'm ploughing thru' some early '74 A/Spurts now. The Ian Phillips review of the '73 UK FAt season says Eden had 2 BT40s for Cyd Williams. I presume, as Allen guessed above, 1 was bought to replace the one written off early that year.

Anyone any ideas on the Paul Hutson car from 1977-78?

Dan

I'd say that Hutson's car was almost certainly the ex Williams/Winstanley car.

Chris

Dan

I'd say that Hutson's car was almost certainly the ex Williams/Winstanley car.

Chris

Maybe Chris, tho' IIRC the Hutson car looked like a BT40, unlike the Williams/Winstanley, which didn't ! I wonder if it was the Mallock/Booysen one, or perhaps the De Adamich/O'Leary car?

I spent yesterday looking at this completely original unrestored car,
It has been in Italy for a long time and apears to have seen very little use. The color is red. The race history is unknown. Anyone have any Ideas.

Welcome Steve

Relatively few BT40s appeared in F2 and we think we know all of those. However, a F2 spec BT40 might have been bought for French or Swiss hillclimbs which could also explain it looking little used.

Could you post some pictures?

Allen

Allen where should I send the photos??
regards,Stephen

If you're likely to post more images in the future, it's worth looking at ImageShack (http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70638). Alternatively, you can email them to me at allen@oldracingcars.com and I'll be very happy to post them for you.

Allen

PS Do you happen to remember anything about the Brabham you ran in Formula B in 1968? BT21?

if u host on image shack do the slide version it allows many fotos saves 6 links and u can see the fotos roll on a neat look on this link if it opens as a sample of how it will look
http://img168.imageshack.us/slideshow/player.php?id=img168/1316/1156960651e8l.smil

Allen,I'll send you the fotos later today.
As for the FB car it was a BT16 with a TC ford. I believe that possibly Allan Moffat had some hand in it.I have some pics if you wish. I had raced a Le Grand Alfa GTA that I built from a kit and I remember how much better the Brabham was,of course that may have been due to winning the first time out.

Thanks Steve. That fills in a couple of gaps. Would the LeGrand have been a Mk3? I would be interested in pictures of the BT16 and anything you remember of its history. There were too many BT16s for us ever to stand much chance of sorting them out but every piece that we can place in the jigsaw helps.

BT40/11 was for sale at the Monza autojumble two years ago, in bits no bodywork,engine or box, incorrect wheels but otherwise fairly sound and unmessed with,with the correct and original chassis plate. Also just too expensive!

Thanks Steve. That fills in a couple of gaps. Would the LeGrand have been a Mk3? I would be interested in pictures of the BT16 and anything you remember of its history. There were too many BT16s for us ever to stand much chance of sorting them out but every piece that we can place in the jigsaw helps.


Allen did you recieve my fotos of the BT40?
The legrand was a MK3B
regards,stephen

Steve, yes I did get your pictures but was out all of yesterday and didn't get a chance to post them. Later today, I hope.

Sooner than I thought!

http://www.oldracingcars.com/images/griswold/brabhambt40-32-front-400x.jpg (http://www.oldracingcars.com/images/griswold/brabhambt40-32-front-640x.jpg)

http://www.oldracingcars.com/images/griswold/brabhambt40-32-rear-400x.jpg (http://www.oldracingcars.com/images/griswold/brabhambt40-32-rear-640x.jpg)

http://www.oldracingcars.com/images/griswold/brabhambt40-32-engine-400x.jpg (http://www.oldracingcars.com/images/griswold/brabhambt40-32-engine-640x.jpg)

http://www.oldracingcars.com/images/griswold/brabhambt40-32-chassisplate-400x.jpg (http://www.oldracingcars.com/images/griswold/brabhambt40-32-chassisplate-640x.jpg)

Click on these for the larger original images that Steve sent me.

Allen

Allen did you recieve the fotos? I'm told that this car was used in the De Adamich drivers school??? Also couls it be a car driven either by Vittorio venturi or Spartico Dini with a motor prepared by Amaroli???
Regards,Stephen

BT40-32

Coys sale to be held at Padova, 28th October, Lot 126 €35-40,000


"A number of cars were converted to the new 2-litre formula, particularly in Italy, were they ran competitively for several seasons.
The example you see here today had an active racing career in Italy and has recently been restored. These single seaters are now eligible for a number of events including hill-climbs."

Looks like Coys don't know much either!

There was a BT40 Hart in Trinidad owned by 'Dino' subsequently returned to the UK -(by email from Mike Atwell)

There was a BT40 Hart in Trinidad owned by 'Dino' subsequently returned to the UK -(by email from Mike Atwell)



Investigating on Lole just today I knew that handling in 1973 in 2 races of F2 with Brabham BT-40 in Germany

08.04.1973 VII Deutschland Trophae Hockenheim # 43 Brabham BT40-Ford BDA
23.04.1973 XXVIII B.A.R.C. "200" Thruxton # 51 Brabham BT40-Ford BDA


In its book never it speaks of the BT-40

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7121/librolole0003ln2.th.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=librolole0003ln2.jpg)

You have photos of that car?
My Mail jadb60@yahoo.com.ar
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Greetings Alejandro

Alejandro

Welcome to the forum
Reutemann was entered by MRD for both those races but didn't appear at them. I think that the team only had one car all season [BT40-12] initially used by Watson and then Wilson Fittipaldi

Chris

Alejandro

Welcome to the forum
Reutemann was entered by MRD for both those races but didn't appear at them. I think that the team only had one car all season [BT40-12] initially used by Watson and then Wilson Fittipaldi

Chris
Cris tanks for information!!!!
Alejandro

There is a BT40 just listed on www.race-cars.com chassis #11.

Hans Wittwer had a 2-litre Brabham BT40 in hillclimbs in 1974, 1975 and 1976. He appears in Austria, Switzerland and at Ecce Homo in what was then Czechoslovakia.

Chris - when did Shangri La have his car?

"Shangry La" still has BT40-19 in 1974, which suggests it might not be the Wittwer car unless he only shows up late season. However, we do have chassis 32 in Italy fairly recently with no known ownership.

Chris

There was some sort of deal with the CSAI and Dragoni late in 1973 and they had a pair of Brabham BT40s. I'll let you practice your Italian - I've just emailed Autosprint 29 Oct-5 Nov 1973 p13 to you.

1973:Venturi
1974:Eugenio Baturone /Ford -1977, Hans-Ruedi Wittwer/BT40B
1977:L. Kolly
1978:Peter Dienemann
1980:Georg Reisinger ?

Echappement lists Kolly's car as a BT30 in 1978. Where did he appear in a BT40?

Looking at the photos on the ecce homo site I'd say there was a strong case for Dienemann's car having been Wittwer's.

Chris

Echappement lists Kolly's car as a BT30 in 1978. Where did he appear in a BT40?

1977 Mont Dore - EHC /source french magazine... i have only a copy from a friend, only one race i have... so it could be mistake

Looking at the photos on the ecce homo site I'd say there was a strong case for Dienemann's car having been Wittwer's.

Chris

its possible, here are wittwer and dienemann year 76 and 78

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/737/wittwer76rc0.th.jpg (http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wittwer76rc0.jpg)

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/3353/dienemann78dt7.th.jpg (http://img250.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dienemann78dt7.jpg)

http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/faq.php?faq=vb_read_and_post#faq_vb_attachment_explain

A car has surfaced in the UK,brought in from USA some years ago.Appears to be a Formula B car,with twin cam and FT200.ID# BT40-26.No history known,other than name on car,John Macaluso.Google tells us he was in Can Am mid 80's.Cheers

"Shangry La" still has BT40-19 in 1974, which suggests it might not be the Wittwer car....Chris
You could be right,

Hansruedi Wittwer was the owner of the Brabham BT 40-20. This car we bought directly from Bernie Ecclestone. He run the BT 30 and the BT 40 in the European Hill Climb Championship.
I hope i could help you. If you have any more questions please let us know - or if you own one of this car.
Annemarie Wittwer

Andrew

,other than name on car,John Macaluso.Google tells us he was in Can Am mid 80's.Cheers

Miracle Motorsports in the ALMS also.

A car has surfaced in the UK,brought in from USA some years ago.Appears to be a Formula B car,with twin cam and FT200.ID# BT40-26.No history known,other than name on car,John Macaluso.Google tells us he was in Can Am mid 80's.CheersGood man Pete!

Check out 14th place at Trois-Rivières 1983 (http://www.oldracingcars.com/results/result.asp?RaceID=C83D)

Another mystery solved?

Allen

Any more clues on the bodywork like a sponsors name? I'm wondering if this is also the mystery "Microlon Special" that Macaluso drove at the end of 1982 and then the Brabert FWH 001-Ford he drove at the start of 1983.

Allen

Any more clues on the bodywork like a sponsors name? I'm wondering if this is also the mystery "Microlon Special" that Macaluso drove at the end of 1982 and then the Brabert FWH 001-Ford he drove at the start of 1983.

Allen
Allen,
The pics i have clearly show the car as a F/B Ford twin cam,there is no sign of it being in 2ltr Can Am format.Signage on the rear wing shows " HBO CINEMAX".Also the owner of the car was Fred Herbert.Regards Pete

Brabert = Brabham/Herbert? FWH = Fred W. Herbert?

Plausible, isn't it?

Spotted by Drifty: Autosport 25 june 1981 p51 - Barry Dutnall is running a BT40-Buick. The car was built for him over the winter. No clues on the origins of the Bt40 chassis.

EDIT: Or maybe it's Barrie Duntall - I've just seen Chris's history of BT40-12.

The Macaluso car

HBO Cinemax sponsorship suggests use in NE region SCCA in the early 80s

HBO is Home Box Office [we know that, Sopranos, Sex n'City etc]
Began broadcasting as HBO by cable in 1972 in New York area only. Cinemax started early 1982, but the reach of the channel was still only to NYC/Philadelphia, suggesting regional promotion as the most effective

Company logo changed in 1981, might help us date the paint job.
Peter Any chance of a look at the pics?

Also imdb lists a John Macaluso [born the Bronx 1954] as a late 70s TV actor... I wonder if there might be some connection between him and HBO in an executive capacity

Chris

I knew your day job would come in useful one day :)

Spotted by Drifty: Autosport 25 june 1981 p51 - Barry Dutnall is running a BT40-Buick. The car was built for him over the winter. No clues on the origins of the Bt40 chassis.

EDIT: Or maybe it's Barrie Duntall - I've just seen Chris's history of BT40-12.

Actually you are both wrong and both right!

It is Barrie Dutnall. :)

Not so much of MY day job!! I deal with pure art...

I will, however, ask one of my colleagues, who specialises in American TV [she has a PhD on Buffy the Vampire Slayer for G**'s sake] if she can be of any help in identifying useful names in HBO's early days.

Chris

Chris/Allen

I have the following information on a couple of the BT40/41s.

BT40-33: The car and an engine from Swindon was purchased by Ted Titmas through Brabham dealer Swanson Motor Racing of Costa Mesa, CA with provision made for Titmas to pick it up at MRD. The already-paid-for car sat at the factory for quite a bit of time, prompting several calls from Eccelstone as to what was going on. Perhaps, since it was just sitting there, Bernie figured he would run it for Reutemann at Thruxton. Titmas eventually collected the car and ran a couple of UK events before shipping it back home. Titmas ran the car sporadically in the US before selling it. The next time I saw the car, which had a '74/'75B March nose, was when I raced against it at club eents at Las Vegas and Riverside. It was owned an driven by John Angus. Marc Bahner bought the car and restored it, updating it to 4-poot Lockheeds on the front and aluminum Konis. Bahner sold the car and it was raced in West Coast clubs events by George Seidel (sp?) and Bob Schilling. The last time I saw the car, about 6 or 7 years ago, was at a vintage race in Tustin, CA, and was owned, I believe, by Ken Partch (sp?) Just today, I came across an ad for the car in the August 2005 edition of Vintage Racecar magazine. I spoke with the then-owner, Perry Sands. He said he sold the car last year, but doesn't remember who he bought it. He claims the car was Titmas", but the chassis number is 35.

BT 40-30: This ex-Meyers-Munroe-Christ-Whitton-Fazzi car is supposedly now owned by Tom Crowther in Texas.

BT41-30: This car, currently advertised on the Race Car Sales site, was raced in Southern California in the late '70s and early '80s by Tom Spagnola. The ad says the body is Falconer, but it looks very much like a kit Marc Bahner produced for several Brabhams, including his own BT29, my BT28 and Warren Pogue's BT38. It consisted of a '73B March nose and cowling and a '74B engine cover. Interest note: the ad says the car has an aluminum tub, but when I comtemplated buying from Spagnola, I was warned away because the BT41s were built with steel tubs to meet F3 minimum weight.

Gary Jarlson

In the above post, I misspelled someone's name: it should be Warren Pauge, not Pogue.
Gary Jarlson

BT 40-30: This ex-Meyers-Munroe-Christ-Whitton-Fazzi car is supposedly now owned by Tom Crowther in Texas.
Would be surprised if he has it,as it is sitting in my shop in Australia with correct chassis plate and all log books.
Thanks
Pete

Peter

I cannot argue with you, this is just what I was told by Marc Bahner. From whom and when did you get BT40-30? I'm in need of a project and was thinkng of calling Crowther about the chassis he has. I'll let the forum know when I find out.
Gary Jarlson

Yet another small correction (the memory bank is unstable after nearly 35 years): I was talking tonight with one of my compatriots from back in the day at Swanson Motor Racing and he reminded me that, while we were going to order an engine for Titmas' BT40-33 from Swindon, that didn't happen due to some sort of an issue. We ended up getting it from Race Engine Services, possibly at the suggestion of Mr. Eccelestone. I apologize for that misinformation.
Gary Jarlson

There is a picture of me driving the Titmus BT40 at Riverside on my website www.brennerfab.com (http://www.brennerfab.com) in the "dougs bio" section. I totally restored this car around 1995 as a partner with Bob Schilling, but it was sold to Ken Parch by my wife after out divorce in kind of a shady deal. I am not sure what the number is but the car I had was probably the last BT40. I am in contact with Ted Titmus and can get any info that might be needed. I believe Ted had two BT40's. He crashed the first (in England) and the car that I restored was put togeather for him in 1972 with parts at the factory. Ted tells me that that car was the last Brabham customer car. I also have somewhere the pictures of the car after restoration. I still have a nice set of 10" and 14" wheels from that car for sale ($8000).

http://www.brennerfab.com/old%20pics%20014.jpg

Riverside circa 1986

Agree that Titmus probably had a second BT40 in 1973 as he doesn't debut 40-33 in UK until 9 Sept 73 [Adam Ferrington noted chassis number at Oulton Park] and he's been driving a BT40 in SCCA before then. Hardly likely that he would have shipped that car back to UK for a few races and then back to US. I think he wanted to get a second car as back up and have a newer chassis for the SCCA run offs. 33 must have sat around the shop at MRE for some time as 36 is ready by June.

Quick recap on BT40s

11 - Opert: Probably Hall at 1972 ARRC then Brian Robertson [w/o Singapore GP] [probably used by Roos]. 1974: Rebuitl and raced as hire car by Opert team, 1975: Gary Wallace

12 -Works F2: Watson; 1974: Eugenio Baturone; 1977 John Hart; 1979: Barrie Dutnall

13 - not built?

14 - John Wingfield F2/F.Atlantic 1974: Wingfield for Ray Mallock, also 1975 then loaned to Len Booysen. Maybe taken back to ZA by Booysen

15: not known

16: not known

17: Ken Duclos to 1976, then Peter Gates Sr

18: Chuck Dietrich, 1974: David Ralston; 1976 Ned Clark

19: Vittorio Venturi F2; 1974 "Shangry La"

20: Italy, probably unused F2; 1974: Hans Rudi Wittwer

21: Graham Eden for Cyd Williams to 1976, then David Winstanley

22: Not known

23: not known

24: not known

25: not known

26: not known before 1982 in SCCA NE with John Macaluso. Area suggests might have been an Opert car or Canadian

27: not known, in Matthews collection recently

28: not known

29: not known

30: Olney Mairs to 1975, then Mark Munroe, 1979 Richard Christ

31: not known

32: not known in period but f/s Coys Padova 2006, suggesting Euro hillclimb history more than anything else

33: Titmus

34: not known

35: John McDonald [Hong Kong]

36: Works F2 de Adamich, 1974: Tom O'Leary; 1978 John Ledlie

37: Alan Lader probably replacing an earlier car, written off. 1974: Ron Householder

38: not known

39: not known before 1975: Moto Kitano Japanese F2. Suggests previous history in US or SEA.

Unknown users:

Opert has at least three cars in rotation, including one late season for Jaussaud at Trois Rivieres and new there, so 38?

Ed Reeves buys a car for Dave Morgan, damaged in pre-season and never raced

Albert Poon has one and keeps it in family to at least 1977 so can't be Kitano car

Craig Hill has one to end 74 and then goes to Howard Kelly 1976

Gilles Leger [Montreal] has one

Michael Hall perhaps rents from Opert, more likely to own car

John Milledge

Ron Southern [Glen Ellen CA] retained to at least 1976

Chris

I don't believe Ted had two cars at one time. I think the first one was crashed. I will get a hold of him and find out what actually happened.

Hello all;

Pardon me in advance if I double post this- I'm new at this so please forgive me.

I have yet another BT-40 which I purchased about a year ago from a friend. It is one of the two cars purchased by Dragoni for the CSAI in '73 or '74 and was used in the national race school in Italy. This car was purchased by a fellow named Giorgio Schon in '86 from the CSAI, was resored and raced minimally till Dave Rugh of Portland, Oregon bought the car in '98 and brought it over to the US. The car has an Arch Motors number (AM73-20) but no chassis plate. Tho photo attached is me racing the car last May with the HGP group at Thunderhill in Northern California.

In a previous thread Stephen Griswold mentioned the pair of BT-40's sold by the factory to Dragoni. This is the other car.

So any help in determining the chassis number would truly appreciated!

Thanks-

Jonathan Burke, Berkeley, California

I just ran accross this thread. I used to own a BT40 ( as well as a BT35) which I bought from David Kerr ( Jamaica ) & subsequently sold it to Bob Howlings ( UK ). I have no knowledge what happened to it but I suspect that it may have been the Bill Eagles car referred to in an earlier post.

Welcome Richard. Can you remember what year this might have been?

Funny BT38---BT40 story. My friend Chris Chrisafulli had a BT38 and was looking for a newer car. My wife was over at Fred Operts shop picking up some parts for us and while sitting in his office she noticed a check for $3500. made out to Paul Corazzo..She called me because I knew what the check was for: Corazzo's BT40...so I called paul and told him that I would give him $3800. for the car that day...bought it and sold it to Chrisifulli the next day for $4500.......I was not dishonest...just opertunistic...get it opertxxxxxx..RJ

I just ran accross this thread. I used to own a BT40 ( as well as a BT35) which I bought from David Kerr ( Jamaica ) & subsequently sold it to Bob Howlings ( UK ). I have no knowledge what happened to it but I suspect that it may have been the Bill Eagles car referred to in an earlier post.
Richard may I ask about the BT35? Mike Sharott had one in Jamaica BT35-35?
(I'll copy this to the BT35 thread)
Andrew

Mike Rand here, enjoying the read.
Funny story RJ, how are you ? God knows if anyone was opportunistic it was, and I'm sure still is, Fred Opert.
Another thread I can add a bit of information to.
I bought the rebuilt Brian Robertson car [after he destroyed it in Singapore in 1973] from Opert to replace my crashed Rondel/Motul M1 in the early fall of 1974. Took it to Road Atlanta for the Runoffs, finished third in a 3 BT40 train, Duclos-Mike Hall-me with a new lap record that day.
I ran the car all of 1975 and it was showing it's age as an Atlantic/B car so I converted it to FC with a Cosworth BDJ 1,100cc injected motor. A little heavy for FC when guys were running F3 chassis with the same motor but a typical Brabham, strong, forgiving, easy to work on, brave, thrifty, clean, etc etc all the good Boy Scout stuff.
As someone else posted, no chassis number for you, we just didn't care back then.
Sold it to Larry Snover from Pennsylvania somewhere and I think he sold it to Ohio where at one point someone contacted me as they were converting it to a sports racer of some description.
I loved that car, real quality, a far cry from a modern production race car.

Sold it to Larry Snover from Pennsylvania somewhere and I think he sold it to Ohio where at one point someone contacted me as they were converting it to a sports racer of some description.

Mike, good to have you join us!! Might be the BT40 run by Dale Wise in Cen Div ASR in the early 80s

I've only just spotted Mike's story:

Mike Rand here, enjoying the read.
Funny story RJ, how are you ? God knows if anyone was opportunistic it was, and I'm sure still is, Fred Opert.
Another thread I can add a bit of information to.
I bought the rebuilt Brian Robertson car [after he destroyed it in Singapore in 1973] from Opert to replace my crashed Rondel/Motul M1 in the early fall of 1974. Took it to Road Atlanta for the Runoffs, finished third in a 3 BT40 train, Duclos-Mike Hall-me with a new lap record that day.
I ran the car all of 1975 and it was showing it's age as an Atlantic/B car so I converted it to FC with a Cosworth BDJ 1,100cc injected motor. A little heavy for FC when guys were running F3 chassis with the same motor but a typical Brabham, strong, forgiving, easy to work on, brave, thrifty, clean, etc etc all the good Boy Scout stuff.
As someone else posted, no chassis number for you, we just didn't care back then.
Sold it to Larry Snover from Pennsylvania somewhere and I think he sold it to Ohio where at one point someone contacted me as they were converting it to a sports racer of some description.
I loved that car, real quality, a far cry from a modern production race car.

I have another possible fate for BT38/1. The 'Osprey SR-1' 2 litre sportsracer built to Can-Am spec in 1977/78 was based on "an ex-Graham Hill Formula 2 car that a Chicago racer brought over from Europe". Could this be BT38/1 or could it be one of the older Rondel BT36s that he drove in 1971. I'm off to the BT36 thread next...

Allen
I have a little more on this Osprey business. The two people who built the Osprey, Jack Finucan and Dan Hartill, bought the "ex-Hill Formula 2 Brabham BT34[sic]" from Chuck Dietrich along with some Lola T294 bodywork and a pair of FVCs. Jack recalls that Dietrich was importing quite a bit of stuff from Europe.

It would have been pretty old by this time. Any of this helpful? From reading the threads, it appears more likely to be a BT38 than a BT36.

AllenThe timing is right and the location (Ohio) is right for this to be the Osprey. Everything else is wrong but it's worth bearing in mind.

The acknowledged Titmus car is up for sale out of San Diego. The ad (Apexspeed Vintage section) doesn't say who the currentowner, just that he's getting out of racing.