Chevron B35

In response to popular demand by Dan R, here's a thread for later Chevron Atlantics and F2s to consolidate existing discussions.

To kick things off:
B35s

35.76.01 BMW 1976: Trivatello for Willy Lovato. 1977: possibly the car used by Andy Barton at the first G8 race at Mallory, otherwise unknown

35.76.02 BMW 1976: Trivatello for Roberto Marazzi. 1977: Trivatello for Patrese

35.76.03 1976: ROC for Jean -Pierre Jaussaud with Chrysler engine. 1977 Andre Chevalley

35.76.04 Hart: 1976 Opert for Pryce and Harald Ertl. 1977: Obermoser for Ertl

35.76.05 Hart. 1976: Opert for Juan Cochesa and Hans Binder. 1977: Opert for Rosberg and Hans Royer

35.76.06 Hart. 1976: Opert for Jose Dolhem, Rupert Keegan [Macau GP] 1977 Steve Millen. 1978 Destroyed in testing accident by new owner.

35.76.07 BMW. 1976: Hohmann Autotechnik for Manfred Schurti. 1977: Unknown

35.76.08 BMW. 1976: Gianfranco Trombetti, retained 1977 then sold to Lorenzo Niccolini

35.76.09 Chrysler: 1976: ROC for Jean-Pierre Jaussaud

35.76.10 BDX. Bob and Marj Brown for Bobby Muir; 1977: Iain McLaren, retained 1978 then sold to Bernard Hunter in July. 1979: George McMillan

35.76.11 Chrysler [unusual as Chevron didn't normally build 11] ROC for Xavier Lapeyre

35.76.12 Hart Probably Teddy Yip for Patrick Tambay in Far East. Retained 1977

35.76.14 BMW: Works for Rolf Stommelen/Hans Binder, taken to Japan for Jacques Laffite [Japanese GP] probably stayed there for Kuniomi Nagmatsu [1977] and Keiji Matsumoto [1978]

35.76.15 BMW Opert late season for Jochen Mass. 1977 maybe to Werner Ruckelshausen

Can't remember now if I disputed the fate of #6 with you on an earlier occasion, Chris. But:
In 1983 I had a session with Dave Schollum, one of the Singapore-based NZ brothers who owned the cars Millen raced at that time. My quest was to find out what had happened to the various Schollum/Millen Chevrons. He was quite clear that the B35 was then (1983) in Asia

Chris.

B35-76-05, as advised somewhere else, now with Chris Farrell in OZ.

According to Chris, sold early 1977 , unknown through to Sept. 1982.
Thence to Weylock Racing for Aurora Series F2 class Drv. Alan Tullock , BDG eng.
Feb. 1987 to Richard Simms , with a Skoda body in special saloons, BDG eng.
May 1990 , sold to Milldent Motorsport.
Dec. 1990 , sold to Chris Farrell , car restored by Ken Thorogood.
To OZ shortly after , and retained , fitted with Hart 420R.

Bryan.

I seem to have started this thread indirectly.
Re the Millen B35-76-06
Steve Millen confirmed it was the Macau ex Opert car. Apparently it had a heavier FG400 gearbox, putting the car about a 100lb over tha Atlantic weight limit. No other information.

Bryan, re B35-76-05, not at all aure about Chris Farrell's information. I don't recall Allan Tulloch with such a car, and by 82, Aurora F2 was long gone. Did Tulloch have a B38 F3 car at one time ISTR ?

I'd be surprised if it was under a Richard Simms Skoda Superloon. Simms did have one, I thought it was a B23 or similar 2-litre sportscar, not an F2 tub. Most such Skodas of the late 70s were built on Gp6 sportsracers, not single seaters, though I believe Pat Thomas's Esprit did have some B35 parts in it. Any thoughts Jeremy/Chris ?

Chris, on the Barton Mallory G8 race in early 77, the Marazzi car rings a very very vague bell with me, B35-76-02????? Wonder why Andy B didn't buy it, he got the Sana later that year I remember. Perhaps the B35 was a bit costly ?

Dan,

One of Simms' Skodas, I think his second, was based on Bob Marsland's B23. I also thought his first was sports-based, but I've got nothing to hand about it.

I was also confused by 1982 Aurora, but can't offer an alternative. I only remember Tulloch from British F3 in the mid80s

Time to restart this one.

I'm just getting G8 1978 ready to put up on ORC and Jeremy, who has contributed the results, has 35.76.01 as Barton's car at Mallory and Oulton in March/April 1977. Is this now certain? Chris had it as a 'possibly' at the beginning of this thread but I recall that Dan reached some conclusions on this car elsewhere.

Allen

Allen
The problem is this: 35-01 and 02 go to Trivatello. F1R notes 01 as Lovato's car and 02 as Marazzi's in 1976.
02 appears as Patrese's car early 77 according to F1R. This car destroyed in big accident at Nurburgring. [Though being ex Patrese probably now exists in at least 4 authentic versions through imaginative use of screws.]
MN Feb 77 says ex Marazzi car sold to Barton
Car destroyed Ingliston: AS 12.5.77 p. 55

Now, either F1R is wrong in assuming 01 to be Lovato's car all season in 76, having observed it at one British round [and that wouldn't be a first...] and Marazzi used it, or MN is wrong in calling the Barton car ex Marazzi and it's just a Trivatello chassis.[One of us cannot be wrong, to quote the great Leonard Cohen]

I think we could say that Barton's 77 car is 01 and Patrese's 02 and that both have effectively ceased to be by the end of May 77

Chris

I think we could say that Barton's 77 car is 01 and Patrese's 02 and that both have effectively ceased to be by the end of May 77So nobody can ever say we were wrong because all the evidence has been destroyed ;)

Thanks

Allen

From what I recall, the Barton car was ex-Marazzi, so I suggest we go with Chris' version, ie we don't believe F1R on this matter. Isn't it good to see some interesting threads on here again !!

I met Kim Mather briefly again today, he says he's seen is old B34D/B35 up for sale. I asked whether he fancied buying it, he replied no, 'cos he knows what has befallen it over the years !! He still looks the same as in 1978 or so.

Dan

Could Kim give you any information on what his old car had been doing? I know Kenneth Brill had it in 1979 but then I lose track of it.

And what's the right designation for it? B34? B34D? B35? B35D? B39? B39D?

Allen

Allen, I'm due to see him soon so will ask. It was always called a B34D in period, I think the D was for 'development'.

Dan

That's interesting as Jim Crawford appeared in a B34D at the end of the 1976 season. Could this be the same car?

Allen

Don' think so Allen, I don't recall anything being said about Kim's being ex-Jim C, though given Jim's factory connexions, I suppose it may have become the basis for the B39 that Villeneuve used that winter in ZA. Kim's car of course was always described as being based on the car Gilles smashed up down there. When I saw him last week, he said he'd seen his old car advertised somewhere, maybe on the web, and that there was a UK phone no. to call about it.

B35-76-05. This looks confusing. There was a B35 with this chassis number at Silverstone at the weekend, with chassis plate:rotate:

As Chris Farrell has had his B35-76-05 in Australia for about 15 years this could become interesting.

Bryan.

Bryan has Chris's car got a chassis plate?

James,

I think so , but will verify.

Bryan.

Looked at the Chevron with a view to buying it in France. Car was very "original and well used" the chassis plate looked very old and although you can't see it in the image, was genuine Chevron, just almost polished away over the years. the car has a long history and FIA papers.


Ian

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Posted on behalf of Bryan Miller, photos of 35/76/05:-

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I would suggest that the chassis plate on the Australian car is not the original plate. Maybe it also became damaged by overpolishing and was replaced by a fresh copy?

Allen

Allen,

Who knows, the plate was on the car when it came here in 1991 after being purchased by Steve Farrell on Chris's behalf.
Car came from Manchester.
I will encourage Chris to join and see if we can unravel yet another old racing car mystery.

Bryan.

Allen,

Who knows, the plate was on the car when it came here in 1991 after being purchased by Steve Farrell on Chris's behalf.
Car came from Manchester.
I will encourage Chris to join and see if we can unravel yet another old racing car mystery.

Bryan.
My brother Steve Farrell who still lives in the UK (BAR and Prodrive) bought the B35 on my behalf. The information was that it was an ex Opert car/Rosberg and was restored by Ken Thorogood, who we both knew well. The B35 was fitted with a 420R which was bulit by Brian Hart in 1988. Hpe this helps. In Australia since 1992.

Welcome aboard Chris.

Bryan.

My brother Steve Farrell who still lives in the UK (BAR and Prodrive) bought the B35 on my behalf. The information was that it was an ex Opert car/Rosberg and was restored by Ken Thorogood, who we both knew well. The B35 was fitted with a 420R which was bulit by Brian Hart in 1988. Hpe this helps. In Australia since 1992.

Chris, I used to see you racing at Mallory in the late 70s/early 80s. Was there a dentistry history for you and Steve ?

I presume you refer to Ken 'Hub of the Universe' thorogood, wasn't he based in East Anglia somewhere. Finally, are you sure the Hart was built in 1988, this seems v late for Hart to be building F2 engines?

Dan,
I can answer part of your query, Chris had heard that Brian Hart were building a batch of 10 new 420R engines in the late 1980's and ordered one , and after delivery then set about finding a car to insert said engine into, in Australia you cannot stuff any eng. into any chassis , the car must run the same type of eng. as it ran in period, e.g. my BT35 -8 runs an iron block 1790/1860cc BDE , I cannot , even if I desired run an alloy block BDG of 1995cc , so they had to search out a car that ran a 420R in period.
Bryan.

Two Chrevron B35s for sale at the moment:

1. B35-76-09 with Hart 420R on eBay "full ownership from new" contact Mark on 310-500-5910. Has been mainrained by Chris Fox.

2. B35 red with white upper body rolling chassis ex-Jean Lachaud, Marc Régal from bugeysportauto@free.fr at this this URL (http://www.ffsa.org/membre/pa/detail.php?id=18054). Lachaud and Régal were both hillclimbers. Maybe 76-03 or 76-11?

Allen

Allen

Allen, or maybe Steve W, do you know where -10 ended up, after George McMillan. On the hills somewhere perhaps??

Allen, or maybe Steve W, do you know where -10 ended up, after George McMillan. On the hills somewhere perhaps??

Sorry, no record of that car on the hills or sprints! :bag:

Sorry Dan, don't know. Maybe went into a super saloon?

I recall Pat Thomas' Esprit Donny GT car had some B35 bits in it, perhaps they were from this car ?

Chris, I used to see you racing at Mallory in the late 70s/early 80s. Was there a dentistry history for you and Steve ?

I presume you refer to Ken 'Hub of the Universe' thorogood, wasn't he based in East Anglia somewhere. Finally, are you sure the Hart was built in 1988, this seems v late for Hart to be building F2 engines?
Hi Dan
You are correct.
I racesd at Mallory in F3 -77 and FF1600 1982 teamed with Rod Gretton and in 83 against my brother in 83 FF2000. I had a large Dental practice in Nuneaton Wawickshire from 1980 to 1985. My brother Steve and I started Milldent Motorsport from Hinckley Industrial estate. He moved to Chambelain Engineering in 1987 and used to meet Brian Hart at the local. Brian built 3x 420Rs in 88 one of which I bought.
I now live in Australia and Steve lives in Leafield OXON.
Ken is the Ken of copy anything and sell it at the time. Thetford actually. He is a legend.
Regards
Chris Farrell

35.76.03 1976: ROC for Jean -Pierre Jaussaud with Chrysler engine. 1977 Andre Chevalley

35.76.09 Chrysler: 1976: ROC for Jean-Pierre Jaussaud

35.76.11 Chrysler [unusual as Chevron didn't normally build 11] ROC for Xavier Lapeyre
Two Chrevron B35s for sale at the moment:

1. B35-76-09 with Hart 420R on eBay "full ownership from new" contact Mark on 310-500-5910. Has been maintained by Chris Fox.

2. B35 red with white upper body rolling chassis ex-Jean Lachaud, Marc Régal from bugeysportauto@free.fr at this this URL (http://www.ffsa.org/membre/pa/detail.php?id=18054). Lachaud and Régal were both hillclimbers. Maybe 76-03 or 76-11?
Thanks to my ever growing Echappement collection, I think I can now put a few pieces together.

Two B35-ROCs appear on the French hills in 1977, one with Fredy Canin and the other with Jean Lachaud. There are also Cheval's B29/B35-ROC, which is sometimes reported as a B35 just to confuse matters, and the ex-Lapeyre B35-BMW of Régis Pechaire. So, as the two cars advertised above are clearly different vehicles, one could be excused for concluding that 76-09 was Canin's and 76-03 was Pechaire's.

But it's not that simple of course (when is it?). F1R report André Chevalley running a B35-BMW in 1977 and call it 76-03. If they're right about that, it means someone in France has taken the ROC engine out of 76-03 and put in a BMW just as someone else in France is taking a BMW out of another B35 and putting in a ROC. Posssible, but unlikely. ROC engines didn't exactly grow on trees.

Anyone looked into the Chevalley car? Do we know how F1R identified it?

Allen

Another B35 to stir things up. Chevron employee John Lewis is reported to have built up a B35 at the factory and first raced it at Aintree in August 1977 (MN 18 Aug 1977 p16).

I'm pretty sure Allen, that this was a B34 in fact, that Lewis built up at the factory. It had an Atlantic BDA IIRC, and hence was described as a B34 in period, tho' I guess if it was a 'bitza' it may have had parts from 34 and 35.

Hello everybody,

I would like to have some informations about the 21 B36 chassis numbers, specially the ones delivered in France, to ROC and may be other people.

I only know that B36-76-01 is the "Apache" (won the last Targa Florio in 1977)
B36-76-2 may be the Lancia Fortuna
B36-76-5 may be currently in the US
B36-76-6 may be also in the US but may be a ROC

Thanks for any help!

Regarding B35-76-01 (or at least we think it's 01), Andy Barton Jr has confirmed that the B35 was rebuilt with B40 bits as his 'B40' in 1978.

What I can tell you about the Chevron B40 was that it was the B35 with a few bits B40 bits. Dad wanted to re-build it completely as a B40 after he crashed it but the B40 suspension etc. was not available to him at the time.
Dad hated the B35, said the handling was crap...that's why Chevron quickly brought out the B40.

Allen

Chevron B35-ROC appearances in 1976:

Charnisay 14 Mar 1976
(Roger Rivoire B29-ROC 2nd – ex-Beltoise car lent by Stalder)

Hockenheim 11 Apr 1976
Jean-Pierre Jaussaud 76-03 5th

Thruxton (Monday) 19 Apr 1976
Jaussaud DNA

Col St Pierre 25 Apr 1976
Rivoire 4th (‘new’, plain blue with barely a sticker in sight)

Bourbach 2 May 1976
Rivoire crashed (drives a borrowed March 742 thereafter)

Vallelunga 9 May 1976
Jaussaud 76-09 6th ('his brand new Chevron replacing the one borrowed from a French hillcimber for the first races')

Salzburgring 23 May 1976
Jaussaud 76-03 DNQ (nptr) - this chassis number must be suspect

Pau 7 Jun 1976
Jaussaud 76-03 DNQ (nptr) - this chassis number must be suspect

Hockenheim 20 Jun 1976
Jaussaud 76-09 Ret

Rouen 27 Jun 1976
Jaussaud 76-09 DNQ

Boyeux-Saint Jerome 4 Jul 1976
Rivoire 6th (not adapting to his new car)

Beaujolais 11 Jul 1976
Rivoire 2nd

Mugello 11 Jul 1976
Jaussaud 76-03 DNQ
Servannin 76-09 DNQ

Tancarville 14 Jul 1976
Rivoire 3rd

Cacherat 18 Jul 1976
Rivoire 3rd

Sisteron St-Geniez 25 Jul 1976
Rivoire 1st

Dunieres 1 Aug 1976
Rivoire 6th

Treffort 8 Aug 1976
Rivoire 2nd

Estoril 8 Aug 1976
Jaussaud DNA

Echelette 29 Aug 1976
Rivoire 2nd
Fredy Canin 5th (debut, sponsored by RG Auto, car appears white with pale cockpit surround)

Gua 5 Sep 1976
Canin 3rd
(Jean Lachaud B29-ROC 2nd – lent by Stalder for two events)

Limonest Mt-Verdun 12 Sep 1976
Rivoire 4th
Canin 9th
(Lachaud B29-ROC 6th)

Soissons 19 Sep 1976
Rivoire 2nd

Bayard 19 Sep 1976
Canin 3rd

Nogaro 19 Sep 1976
Jaussaud 76-09 9th

Vence 26 Sep 1976
Rivoire 3rd
Canin 6th

Hockenheim 26 Sep 1976
Jaussaud 76-09 DNQ

Ledenon (circuit race) 17 Oct 1976
Canin 1st

Valflaunes 24 Oct 1976
Canin 1st

It certainly looks as if there are three B35-ROCs here. Does anyone have a picture of the Jaussaud car in 1976?

Allen

I wonder if Andre Chevalley's 1977 car was identified as 'ex-Jaussaud' somewhere and F1R has extrapolated that into identifying it as 76-03. It would make a lot more sense if it was 76-09 and 76-03 is the Rivoire car, then going to Jean Lachaud for 1977. Fredy Canin's car, which he retains for 1977, looks like it's an addition to our list.

Allen

From what I recall, the Barton car was ex-Marazzi, so I suggest we go with Chris' version, ie we don't believe F1R on this matter. Isn't it good to see some interesting threads on here again !!

Motoring News Thursday 10th February 1977 confirms that the B35 that Barton bought was the ex-Roberto Marazzi Trivellato car.

Allen

A little bird tells me that B35-03 was indeed the Rivoire car. It was loaned to ROC because chassis 9 and 11 [yes 11] weren't ready in time for the start of the F2 season, then returned to the hills and badly damaged at Bourbach 2 May. Chevalley's car then makes sense as 09.

Chris

Thanks Chris

Willing to give me any clues as to the species and plumage of this particular bird?

Has small Chevron markings on its wings

Chris

Just been talking to George McMillan. He confirmed the history of 76-10 but added that it then went to a lad in Yorkshire in part chop for a Brabham (Brabham went to Robin Smith). The B35 became a supersaloon and appeared in the Donington series. This would have been 1980 - George last raced it at the end of 1979.

Chevalley's car is identified by Autosprint as 03 in 1977, but it's described as a B40. Elsewhere it is described as having been acquired from Harald Ertl and Rolf Stommelen, who had planned to run a two car team that season, so no connection to ROC and no reason for all the engine swapping that would otherwise justify this car as having been Rivoire's car in 1976

Chris

Just been talking to George McMillan. He confirmed the history of 76-10 but added that it then went to a lad in Yorkshire in part chop for a Brabham (Brabham went to Robin Smith). The B35 became a supersaloon and appeared in the Donington series. This would have been 1980 - George last raced it at the end of 1979.

Re Pat Thomas Esprit he told me hios car was Chevron B35 and i paste his answer in a mail to me last month
The Esprit I think it was from someone called Peter Brookfield around the Scarborough area, they owned some glass/china shops callled Leonards. I don't know the chassis number But i willask my mechanic of 25 years
i suspect it was car 10 as it keeps it in the Norf

Nice work drifty!

What happened to Pat's Esprit after he had it?

was sold to john goulder he had it really shiney on alloy and nice paint job
Pat said he didnt recognise the car!!
after he raced it i cannot recall what happened to it