US GP Indianapolis - Race

I think Bridgestone and Ferrari have this won, their tyres look to be the best this year, Michelin have gone too conservative.

Lets see what the race brings...

if that's the case .. we still have a race . how many points can Schumacher gain back on Alonso ..

I think we might see someone get their first win tomorrow...

Michelin have gone too conservative.

After last year, can you blame them?

The gap from Ferrari to Renault seems to be due to more than tires. Rubens outqualified Alonso, JV was only three hundreths slower than Alonso, and Button was within a tenth of Alonso. This versus a driver who had come into the race having won five consecutive poles.

Yes.

Well I also remember people saying Ferrari would be unstoppable after the European GP, so let's not get carried away.

A bit of wishful thinking. ;)

Michael looks odds on favorite for the win, which is needed for the championship. Massa may have the 2nd best car tomorrow, but he can still find a way to chuck it all away, so it should still be competitve for the podium places. It would be great to see Jacques and BMW get a podium here, they look stong, but Im sure Alonso and Kimi will be up at the sharp end of the grid as well. Great grid though, BMW well up, Scot Speed in 13th. Bad luck for Juan to miss out on the last session.

*crosses fingers for Massa taking himself and Alonso out at T1*

*crosses fingers for Massa taking himself and Alonso out at T1*

Massa should be much nearer to Schumacher,not that he'd put up much of a fight.But Alonso should be P1 by the time they get to the end of the straight.:)

*crosses fingers for Massa taking himself and Alonso out at T1*


Fingers crossed that Massa takes the first 10 cars out leaving Juan Pablo to win ;)

Ron Dennis doesn't believe Michelin is playing it conservative at Indy:

The Englishman downplayed suggestions that Michelin has brought ultra-conservative tyres to Indy in the wake of its safety concerns on the banking in 2005.

“Well one would assume that Michelin has come with a degree of caution but I don’t think that’s really the case," he said.

link (http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=36494)

If Michelin decide to play it safe at Indy, it's fully understandable. Their reputation took a big hit last year, something which i doubt even winning the WDC last year managed to put right.

I wouldn't write it in that Ferrari/Bridgestone have the race won... yet. Sure, the car/tyre looks quick, but i also believe that MS's immediate rivals (Alonso and Kimi are both running heavy).

Alonso may be starting 5th, but surely it isn't a concern. I'm pretty sure Alonso would be up to 3rd at the end of the first lap, with Kimi slowly making his way back up.

Hopefully, Ferrari and MS can pull something out of the bag and win, while Alonso at least get his first bit of bad luck perhaps, just to keep the championship a tad closer.

I still believe Michelin has a strong tyre, considering that 7 out of the top 10 cars are running Michelins.

Kimi is definitely running heavy, but Alonso and Renault's relative lack of pace is about what was expected, so they may be on similar fuel to Michael. This is a real chance for Michael to pull 4 or 5 points back on Fernando, which would help keep the championship alive.

A safety car during the race could see things turned back in Renault and Mclaren's favour.

Watch for Fisi at the run down to the first corner after the lights.He could be the spoiler,fuelled light to get to the first corner before the Ferrari's and then hold them up in the twisty bits.How he will hold them up on the straights i have no idea,maybe he'll be quicker in the infield.

Well, if you're faster at the twisty bits, then you're bound to be faster on corner exits and achieve higher straightline speeds, so it would be a good move if Fisi is light on fuel to jump ahead and hold up the others.

Well, if you're faster at the twisty bits, then you're bound to be faster on corner exits and achieve higher straightline speeds, so it would be a good move if Fisi is light on fuel to jump ahead and hold up the others.

The Ferrari's seem to be very quick on the straights (for whatever reason ;) ) and that seems to be where most of their time is made up (i could be wrong,i don't know the sector times).Maybe it's not so much down to the tyres afterall. *crosses fingers*

well . the sector times are on Formula1.com . and you'll see that Ferrari were faster in all the sectors

well . the sector times are on Formula1.com . and you'll see that Ferrari were faster in all the sectors

So it's down to the tyres then.:)

Ferrari always go well here. I suspect it is largely a tyre thing, but Ferrari are never off the pace at Indy.

We're gonna have to concede a race to Ferrari this weekend, I think.

We're gonna have to concede a race to Ferrari this weekend, I think.

hmmm.......should i paint the fence today i wonder.

As much as I dislike Ferrari's methods, I wouldn't begrudge them a race win or two, it makes for a balanced championship.

Nico was sent to the back of the grid for missing a weigh bridge - would this had happened if he had been higher up the grid? ie is it a ten place penalty?

Is this the first time they have had to do this? Has anyone missed a weigh bridge before?

It wouldn't surprise me for a second if Schumacher won, but as for Massa finishing second, I'm not so sure. I'd be more inclinded to think he might just take someone out.

He's been put specifically to the back of the grid, not down ten places.

It has happened before although I forget when exactly.

Both Macs out.... wow what a dismal weekend

Fantastic. I am delighted.

Rosberg 8th already... What a lucky boy!!

15 cars remain

This is a farce. Only 15 cars left.

They'll be lobbing beer cans next. ;)

Albers sets fastest lap on a 1:51.392.

And Scott Speed is out.... riot surely....

Maybe the Michelin runners should have pulled out before the start - then we may have avoided a first lap shunt ;)

Buton throwing a hissy fit at his engineers.

Albers sets fastest lap on a 1:51.392.

Midland continue their good form from last year....:laugh:

We've been seeing a lot of clean starts lately...when the last big first corner crash before today?

Massa ahead of Schumacher..... seems as though he was going to let MS through before the SC....

This SC better be in soon.

I start getting annoyed once it is over 5 laps (should be a re-start, not loads of laps under FCC).

*****

TV just answered that one. In this lap.

Let them race! ;)

Midland continue their good form from last year....:laugh:

:rofl:

14 cars left.

This SC better be in soon.

I start getting annoyed once it is over 5 laps (should be a re-start, not loads of laps under FCC).


The track was not blocked, so no need for a red flag, in my opinion.

But it should be advantage Renault as it seems they are going further than Ferrari and Ferrrai have lost some valuable hot laps

Oh look how quickly Michael is closing on Massa...

Oh, most probably. I just hate seeing laps disappear under the SC.

5 laps is perfectly reasonable though.

Oh look how quickly Michael is closing on Massa...

He did out-qualify him by 0.6s, ;).

12 cars left....once the MF1 is black flagged. Fool.

I guess this demonstrates how false this circuit is.

Jense can't catch a break

Fisi all over Alonso. Fisi has actually been quicker than Alonso all weekend.

Jense can't catch a break

Well he's got plenty of time for one now. ;)

13 cars on the same lap. Lap 9

Fisi maybe somewhat lighter on fuel than Alonso

Jense can't catch a break

Sure he can; he just retired.

Peter, explain... (the false statement).

Will Renault radio to Fisi that he is faster and that he can pass Alonso? ;)

The Renault of Alonso looks quite dreadful...

See those team-orders keeping Fisi behind Alonso?

Oh, yeah, and the one keeping Michael behind Massa...

Monteiro out

Am i going mad or do i see Fisi pressuring ALonso....;)

Tedium.

Sure he can; he just retired.

Peter, explain... (the false statement).

Easy,

This is an oval, no matter how you change it, its not a racing circuit. And I'll willingly debate ovals v road courses but elsewhere. ;)

Alonso holding up Fisi real bad now...one wonders what would happen if the roles were reversed. ;)

Fisi by Alonso!!!

Ah, sweet, awesome, hard, totally non-team-orders racing between the Renaults.

Fingers crossed that Massa takes the first 10 cars out leaving Juan Pablo to win ;)

Or Montoya takes out ten cars and Massa to take the lead! Oh look it just happened ;)

Well he's got plenty of time for one now. ;)


Kit-kats all round lads!! ;)

RB, RS, and JV now closing on Alonso.

Maybe Alonso will one-stop

RB might surprise a renault or two today?

14.0 for Fisi.

If only they had stopped the race and allowed some cars to rejoin...

They're getting a bit spread out - maybe bring out the safety car for "debris"

If only it was NASCAR, ;).

If only they had stopped the race and allowed some cars to rejoin...

Yes... they just dont red flag races these days.... WOuldve been good if some of the guys couldve jumped in the T-Car and join up

How long til Massa loses his concentration and sticks it somewhere!

ralf fan, I think you forgot a ;) off that post...

;)

Oh sorry guys, didn't mean to offend the "purists".

So was F1 compared to NASCAR when they used to stop races then?

How long until the outrage over Renault team-orders appears?:D

I suspect JV is running heavier than RB and RS. Let's see if he can leapfrog them after they pit.

Fizz--fastest lap of the race. Alonso struggling to hold of RB, RS, and JV.

How long until the outrage over Renault team-orders appears?:D

Never.... but expect outrage when Schumacher magically passes Massa... ;)

I was responding to Racer's comment about the SC for "debris", knowlesy.

I would have happily seen a red-flag (sees more green laps).

Quite, Ralf.

Fisi 1.13.1 !!

Fizz--fastest lap of the race. Alonso struggling to hold of RB, RS, and JV.


Thats cuz he running fat!

12 Cars left. Almost as few as last year!

Let's see. Six cars last year, about seven cars finished in 2004.

Everyone has crashed today.

Not numbers to be proud of are they?

You might have been on for points in that Capri today, Peter!

JV blows up....11 cars...:rolleyes:

Bye, Jacques.

We just might manage to finish with 6 cars yet.

Did I say 12? 11 now. ;)

Time for Indy to go.

Bye JV.... so the cars continue to fall away...

It's only in recent years we've seen double-figure finishers the norm in F1 though - it often used to be 6-8 finishers.

At 1/3rd distance?

How's for a STR on the podium ... Hehehe

It's only in recent years we've seen double-figure finishers the norm in F1 though - it often used to be 6-8 finishers.

Yes but we normally wouldnt have 200 retirement in 20 laps...;)

Well, that was back in the 60s and what not.

The last twenty or so years it has not "often" been 6-8.

You might have been on for points in that Capri today, Peter!

Bugger! I'm having the rear axle rebuilt! :)

Fastest lap to Massa. 1:12.9.

Attaboy! ;)

Massa seems composed up front....

*fully expects Massa to spin now that i have said that*

Ideally we need Fisi to get between the Ferraris so there can be no question of Massa being asked to yield.

The fact that the race wasn't stopped has ruined the race as a spectacle. Nothing is going to happen now, it probably would have dopne if there was a restart. Never mind.

Perhaps the fans should be considered when deciding whether or not to restart the race?

A very small part of me wants Massa to finish the race ahead of Michael (with the Ferrari 1-2).

It would just be interesting.

Schumacher nearly loses it in the pitlane

I would be delighted if Massa got a win.

This looks like Ferrari's race to lose.................... Yawn.

Schumacher ahead, what a surprise ;)

Oh, there we go.

It must be team-orders.

Must be.

No way that was genuine.

0% chance.

FACT.

Predictable reversal in the Ferrari positions...

Race set.

Calm down Dutton, nobody has said anything yet.

Well, hadn't.

Schumacher ahead of Massa.... id never have guessed.... :s

Alonso in too... so its over

The fact that the race wasn't stopped has ruined the race as a spectacle. Nothing is going to happen now, it probably would have dopne if there was a restart. Never mind.

Perhaps the fans should be considered when deciding whether or not to restart the race?


Moral of the story is never to go to Indy... Value for money and all eh!!:laugh:

Race set.


Now all that is left is Alonso passing Fisi for P3... and then race set...:p

Hope Tony George or whoever it is who runs Indy, is enjoying the parade. ;)

Calm down Dutton, nobody has said anything yet.

I'm just messing.

I am not worried at all.

41 laps left! My juices are really going now! ;)

Prepare for the Ferrari bashing now!! How many threads will be created bout it??

My bet is at least 4..

This is fun......................

Moral of the story is never to go to Indy... Value for money and all eh!!:laugh:

This can't exactly be any more thrilling than the 05 race...but at least they had a nice crash to entertain them :rotate:

Honda is doing the usual fade from a high grid position...too bad BMW isn't in the race to take advantage of this...

I'm just messing.

I am not worried at all.

You're just not taking this seriously enough! ;)

How many do you reckon for Renault?

The ironic thing about the Ferrari situation is that, for a lot of (but certainly not all) people, the problem with Ferrari team-orders was that they were blatant. They would be happy if they were "subtle".

I never understood that view point, but a fair few had it.

Prepare for the Ferrari bashing now!! How many threads will be created bout it??

My bet is at least 4..

Deserves at least 20. it's all **llocks.

Switched off last year - might do the same again!

Montiero in apple eating scandal... ;)

Here comes the good old scamper away TGF show!

I trust you are outraged by Renault too, Alan?

Can't top Ross Brawns bananarama spectacle a couple of years back. Monteiro is a wannabe!

Prepare for the Ferrari bashing now!! How many threads will be created bout it??

My bet is at least 4..

Yeah, they'll all be merged though. ;)

Think I'll just go and stick the kettle on...

Hang on.......... How did MS get in front....... Er no I think I'd rather not know..............

I trust you are outraged by Renault too, Alan?

Almost!!!

Come on Trulli. You can do it. Get those dirty, cheating Renaults.

Almost, Alan? So Renault giving team-orders is different to Ferrari giving them? Interesting.

It would be a shame if Ferrari are 'bashed' for this... I mean even Renault let Fisi through...and there is no proof to suggest Ferrari's had team orders.... MS is a master at in and out laps so you never know..

Yeah, they'll all be merged though. ;)

Ah you used to be cool man! Dont sell out and ruin all the fun! Do up a poll on it.... Heheh :laugh:

Looks like Albers has had it too

Thanks for that RF, my faith in humanity is restored. ;)

Ah you used to be cool man! Dont sell out and ruin all the fun! Do up a poll on it.... Heheh :laugh:

Will do.

Ralfo in a solid if unspectacular 5th.... now all we need is the Renaults, Ferraris and Trulli retiring and victory!!! ;)

This is the first time the ads on TSN and Speed have co-ordinated. 1 hour in and the first point I have been unable to plug the gaps. Not bad.

RF. It was team orders. Don't be economical with the truth! ;)

Ferrari are chasing so it is perfectly acceptable. Though it's not my cup of tea.

McLaren were the same last year.

RS gaining on Alonso for 4th...

This is the first race this year where you lot have really been more interesting than the race!

The humiliation...

I'm off.. enjoy the rest of the race lads! heres to FA been taken out..

Quite right Mallett. It's been a non-event though.

Hungaroring 2004 pales into insignificance. ;)

RF. It was team orders. Don't be economical with the truth! ;)

Ferrari are chasing so it is perfectly acceptable. Though it's not my cup of tea.

McLaren were the same last year.

Team orders are banned.... Why cant we trust the FIA to enforce the rules... ;)

Wow we've got 10. THAT IS 10 cars running now.

I'm off.. enjoy the rest of the race lads! heres to FA been taken out..


I'm sure wishing the same sentiment on MS in his era would have been met with howls of derision.

Surely Alonso is not more hated than Schumacher, just for winning a lot?

Four more than last year, how can we complain? ;)

Trulli is only 9 seconds behind Alonso, lapping as quickly as him, and is on a one stopper. Could Alonso wind up 5th or 6th with MS winning???

I'm off.. enjoy the rest of the race lads! heres to FA been taken out..

Was it something I said? :(

I know, Ralf, it is awful.

Renault and Mclaren should've been excluded from the championships last year, and Ferrari and Renault should be excluded for this year's.

I am outraged by the FIA's lack of action in enforcing their rules.

Bet the Yanks love this!

*cough*

DC on a zero stopper? :laugh:

Trulli is on to get 4rth atleast....if not 3rd from Fisi...

Here's hoping. Trulli is due a podium.

Fisi will probably keep it though.

And Ralf?

The annoying thing about this is that, despite just ten cars running, they are all regular scorers anyways....

This is the hope.

A double-DNF for Renault would be preferable, but, well, I could cope with 3rd and 5th (Alonso 5th).

Never know, Fisi might go crap at some critical point and lose 3rd to Trulli.

Fisi can't be perform for the whole race, can he? ;)

And Ralf?

Is he on a one stop too?

I do not know.

I think this race confirms RBR have the largest fuel tank of all the teams?

There's a talking point. ;)

Why do races where Ferrari dominate seem more boring than when Williams or McLaren or Renault do?

And Ralf?

Ralf is on a 2 stopper.... so he will fall behind Jarno.... Jarno gained form starting from the pitlane...and gained all those positions due to the attrition...

I do my best, knowlesy. :rotate:

I nearly crapped my pants when DC came out of the pits and raced with Nico for a couple of corners. I don't think I could cope with talking about either of those events.

Dunno, Racer, perhaps there is a relationship with your perceptions and your feelings towards Ferrari?

Has anybody noticed how full the stands are?

RS may be able to pass Alonso, though. Did Renault give Alonso Fisi's car by mistake? :laugh:

Has anybody noticed how full the stands are?


James Allen has.

The very second you posted he said "it may not look a lot but they're spread out in these vast grandstands"

Did RS find some talent? ;)

RS may be able to pass Alonso, though. Did Renault give Alonso Fisi's car by mistake? :laugh:

No its the helmet i tell ya....

Schumacher on to get win number 2000...;)

James Allen has.

The very second you posted [Has anybody noticed how full the stands are] he said "it may not look a lot but they're spread out in these vast grandstands"

And that is supposed to make me feel better? ;)

I wonder if Fisi will back into Trulli?

I'd imagine sharing the same thought process as James Allen would make anyone feel good...

Alonso 6th!!!

So are we expecting Fisi to pass Massa? Or RB to actually get his finger out? Stay tuned kids................. :p

Michael deciding to do a flyer it seems.

I'd imagine sharing the same thought process as James Allen would make anyone feel good...

Yes James is so knowledgeable... indeed Mallet you are lucky ;)

Nico terrifies me at times...

Come on Rubens.

You don't have to be Michael's team-mate to help him.

If James Allen mentions football one more bloody time....

Did anyone else enjoy the muted Montoya explanation for ramming Kimi?!

"Umm, errr, yeah... I don't think it's anybody's fault, err, yeah, Kimi braked really hard..." You mean he was braking hard and you weren't Juan Pablo????

This whole USGP thing is doomed too. DOOMED I tell you.

He is told to by ITV sport bosses I imagine - it makes sense to promote a forthcoming big programme on the channel.

They do also plug F1 during the football coverage.

Murray never did it. I rest my case.

James Allen is a sell out. ;)

Nico terrifies me at times...

Yeah, he looks like a Sheila! Could lead to some embarrassing moments in a dark nightclub...

He is told to by ITV sport bosses I imagine - it makes sense to promote a forthcoming big programme on the channel.

They do also plug F1 during the football coverage.

True but he makes it a habit.... like last year at the Nurburgring he made it a point to point out that he was at Istanbul....and its happened through the years as well...
Right James we get it you are a Liverpool and football fan...

Wasn't quite what I meant David. :laugh:

Murray never did it. I rest my case.

James Allen is a sell out. ;)


I clearly remember a live link from Murray at Silverstone to the late Brian Moore in Paris during World Cup 98.

Grumph.

There you go Alonso.

Ralf is out. Fantastic!

Three runners left!

Bye Bye Ralf....

9 cars running and Williams still not in the points. How the mighty have fallen... Alonso gains a point despite a dismal run.

I clearly remember a live link from Murray at Silverstone to the late Brian Moore in Paris during World Cup 98.

Oh yes, I think I do too. And fair enough as it was WC final straight after the race.

But he didn't make constant references to football.

In terms of the championship, it would make sense for Renault to sacrifice a podium to get Fisi behind Alonso...

Um, how many cars ran last year? And how many are running this year?

Similar number Peter.

Liuzzi on for a point!

6 last, 9 this.


But last year there was 100% reliability ;)

Is it over yet?

Practically.

James has just said that in contrast to last year, F1 has returned to Indianapolis triumphant and put on a great show for the fans.

Has anyone seen an overtaking move yet - barring the Renault team mate handover?

I cringe for F1.

That would be evil team-orders, though, Racer. ;)

Regarding James' comments about the great show...yes, indeed, what total nonsense.

James is deluded.

Has anyone seen an overtaking move yet - barring the Renault team mate handover?

I cringe for F1.


Liuzzi passed Rosberg

Has anyone seen an overtaking move yet - barring the Renault team mate handover?

I cringe for F1.

Hard to overtake when there are no cars.

James has just said that in contrast to last year, F1 has returned to Indianapolis triumphant and put on a great show for the fans.

James keeps saying mind numbing nonsense...pay no attention..

Alonso and RB still fighting though.

If that's what James says then who (apart from anyone with any sense) can fault it?

Great I can switch it off now. Isn't that a sad indictment?

He always sounds ludicrously delighted when Ferrari win - the bias in the man is unbelievable.

What a snoozefest...

Roll on Magny Cours.

Abolish Safety Cars.

Move the US GP to Elkhart Lake.

I'm done.

Driver of the race poll posted BTW. For some reason.

Roll on Magny Cours.



Oh dear... Magny Snooze next.....

I am off to give thanks to the Lord for showing me the way - the MotoGP way.

Once I was lost, now I'm found...

I have found a talking point.

Michael running towards his team....he runs like a chicken!

Wow, I'm glad that occurred. ;)

That must've been about the most exciting thing that has happened today then.

Well shipmates - I haven't posted here for some time - I can now see why!

The most exciting bit for me and the lad is the chicken on the pit wall in the ITV ad breaks.

Please tell me F1 is worth sticking with - some of my mates are bailing out!

I think we should scrap Indy as one of the most boring venues on F1 calendar. It's a complete waste of time spending all that money shipping the show over (when it could be spent on charity) to a venue with so many empty seats. And please don't say (like JAllen) that its a big venue, the US don't have any problems filling huge stadiums to watch men in cropped trousers play rounders.

Anyone fancy throwing some chairs around?

Welcome back Jarcey, good to see you! How are ya? :)

Yes, I'd quite like to throw a large object.

Not bad - spent too much time in prison over the past few weeks/months.

Let's choose a large object ... mmm ... how about Nick Fry's inane smile, or Ron Dennis' depresssion, or Montoya's mobile phone bill trying to secure a ride or James Allen's stupidity or perhaps Jenson's points total, (oh no, sorry that's silly ,that's even smaller than my willy - hope that won't get me banned Knowls - but after going out of the World Cup and that utter US nonsence, I feel like having a riot).

Flipping nora.

Calm down! :laugh:

Excellent race for the championship! Lets hope the Ferrari pace continues in the European part of the championship, so Fernando doesn't walk away with it. Strong weekend for Fisichella, who outclassed Alonso, and for Massa who managed to stay close to Schumi.

OK Knowls - I've got s tablet under my tongue and the pulse is calming - seriously - what a load of stinky pants though.

What a sham when the carnage forms the best replays.

Oh well, roll on Magknee Kor - perhaps the licence fee may be worth paying!

I love my F1, but today was "Bore Galore", as much as i hate to say it, compare that with the Moto GP at Donington today.

(p.s Go Dani ;) )

James keeps saying mind numbing nonsense...pay no attention..

Credit where credit's due, he did manage to stay awake throughout. ;)

They should restart the race IMO instead of trundling round under safety car conditions, running through debris.

Not everyone could have restarted (Montoya for example, would have had to sit out as Kimi would have got the T-car) but it would have added some interest.

There needs to be common sense applied.

What a bunch of sourpusses. At least Michelin showed up with tyres that worked this year ;)

They should restart the race IMO instead of trundling round under safety car conditions, running through debris.

Not everyone could have restarted (Montoya for example, would have had to sit out as Kimi would have got the T-car) but it would have added some interest.

There needs to be common sense applied.

Yes!!!!

Why is it being a sourpuss?

Ferrari would still have won easily. The results would have largely been no different, although Liuzzi wouldn't have got a point (big wow).

It was a ludicrous situation to have half the field decimated after about ten minutes. Just stupid.

However, I realise Coronation Street would have been delayed so they did the right thing I guess.

The other point is letting the cars run through debris, which is just plain daftness.

Wasn't referring to safety car deployment, knowles. I was referring to everyone saying the race was boring ;)

Well I'd agree with that too. ;)

But nonetheless more exciting than last year's ;)

Marginally! We at least had three more cars finishing!

According to the Speed dudes, TG was going to make decision on future races on the basis of the success of this one.

If that is true, well, presumably, it is bye bye Indy.

(Crap race) + (Crap attendance) = (Crap success)

I would've thought.

Two words for that race.

Extremely Underwhelming.
Things don't look good for F1 at indy, but i'm not really bothered, there are lots of better tracks in the US..

They would have to be butchered before F1 could visit them.

That would be worse than Indy.

The cars constantly running over debris was a disgrace, it could have so easily triggered punctures. So many cars made contact on the track that there was always likely to be debris, and Albers' car was dropping loads throughout its time out there.

The ironic thing about the race is that some McLaren team orders might have been useful.

[QUOTE=BootsOntheSide]The cars constantly running over debris was a disgrace, it could have so easily triggered punctures. So many cars made contact on the track that there was always likely to be debris, and Albers' car was dropping loads throughout its time out there.
QUOTE]

well, as someone who was there and has not seen the tv footage....

there was a clear line for the drivers to take through Turns 1-3 almost immediately, like about 30 secs after the incidents...
All other debris was called but was off line or cleared.....

everyone on our post fully expected a re-start and were stunned when it didn't happen.

That said, it was a fantastic week-end, spent with some old and some new very good friends. The usual US welcome was offered to us both and gratefully received. It's not their fault if drivers can't avoid each other.

i didnt think the race was that bad, actually quite enjoyed it, although the first corner incident was farcical. it shook the order up, we didnt see alonso leading raikkonen leading schumacher leading a trail of cars. Even if there wasnt much overtaking, the racing was still pretty close, albeit between not many cars...

or am i just deluded and trying to justify why i stayed up to watch it and now feel like a zombie? maybe sleep deprivation enhances f1... :coffee:

Yyyaaawwwnnnn..............What time is it,did Bridgestone win?

Yes martyn bott
1) #5 Michael Schumacher Ferrari B
2) #6 Felipe Massa Ferrari B
3) #2 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault M

Yes martyn bott
1) #5 Michael Schumacher Ferrari B
2) #6 Felipe Massa Ferrari B
3) #2 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault M

Could never have predicted that!

What happened to the others,did they fall asleep?

Whiting rarely goes for re-starts, remember Australia 2002? Anyway, I think the race was allright...nice to see the Ferraris win and Alonso not on the podium for once, sad for Speed, Montoya, Villeneuve, Kimi - they could all have had a good race.

That was quite a good exicting race. :)

Trulli is a superstar, and Ralf is very good too.

Great battle DCv CK v NR.

what a bad day for BMW

What happened to the others,did they fall asleep?

Trulli certainly did - most of the second half of the race he lapped 3/4 second slower than Ralf and the others thereby losing a certain podium

I thought it wasn't bad. Apart from the Ferrari benefit upfront, the rest of it was pretty interesting for most of the race.

You had the Renault/Toyota situation bubbling along nicely and the Coulthard/Liuzzi/Rosberg battle that culminated in an attractive move by the Italian.

It perhaps wasn't the greatest race of all time, but it certainly wasn't the worst - that will probably be in two weeks time at Magny Cours.

Indeed, I quite enjoyed the race as well. I think we'll have a few good ones coming up this year as well.

Another yawn inducing race for me. Indy is usually a good race for overtaking, the run down to turn 1 is usually a sure thing for good moves. We did see a couple, well errr, one, and a half, maybe.

I actually turned off and stopped my video about 20 laps from the end for the first time, well, ever.

See those team-orders keeping Fisi behind Alonso?

Oh, yeah, and the one keeping Michael behind Massa...

For one team it's a sport. For the other it's a business. One team cares about the fans. The other does not. Team orders this early in the season is a slap in the face to the fans who'd like to see a race. Of course I could be wrong.

Mike

They should restart the race IMO instead of trundling round under safety car conditions, running through debris.

Not everyone could have restarted (Montoya for example, would have had to sit out as Kimi would have got the T-car) but it would have added some interest.

There needs to be common sense applied.


That would have been better to watch, JButton was unlucky getting caught up in it all. They should have let him put more water in.

Well at least ten cars finished better then last years six.

Maybe if were lucky they will all fiinsh next year.