TV: ESPN classic showing classic British GP (merged)

I posted this here so people would actually see it.....

ESPN Classic on Sunday at 4pm and 4:30pm are showing the 1977 and 1978 British grand prix here in Great Britian.
The channel here is 442 on Sky Digital.

Autosport.com say ESPN have bought the rights from the BBC.

I went to these races and so I've never seen them on TV.....NO VIDEO PLAYERS THEN!

Oh yes, very good. Will add these to the DVD empire!

Thanks luke.

Good stuff, i was wondering whether they would show some old GP's.

Can we have some old CART races too please ESPN? '93 season would be great! :D

They do on the U.S. ESPN Classic. Each May they show many classic Indy 500s.

But hey atleast we get to see these classic grand prix as BBC, ITV don't show them...

Nice one Luke, reminder is set... let's hope i remember to watch them!

1977 Silverstone..the F1 debut of THE Villeneuve ( The one without the PINK in his Helmet design)

Excellent,now where did i put my rose-tinted specs?

It's on now then, looks very good!

Ooh! The Yellow Teapot!!!

This is magnificent...

I knew i would do it!!
I missed it!!

No! Just catching the last 4 minutes...

I hope they do more of these, it was first class.

I hope they do more of these, it was first class.

I agree, a fabulous hour of F1. Didnt Brands Hatch look great!

Oh sensational mate.

And Silverstone was fast too.

The cars looked and sounded great. The races may have been just as dull as nowadays often, but you'd never tire of those cars. They are alive.

Nice opportunistic move by Reutemann on Lauda too!

Oh sensational mate.

And Silverstone was fast too.

The cars looked and sounded great. The races may have been just as dull as nowadays often, but you'd never tire of those cars. They are alive.

Nice opportunistic move by Reutemann on Lauda too!

Yes it was. I hope they show more races in the future!

Now you're making me jealous. Thanks guys, thanks.

Don't mention it. ;)

They are repeated on the weekend again chipmunky.

Oh great news. They aren't gonna show new ones, just repeats.

Don't they know I've got them taped now! ;)

LOL. well I'm sure they will in the future, maybe two weeks or definately a months time.They will have to show 1987, 1991 or most ones actually that were on the BBC. ;)

Unlikely that they will show anything from the 80s, I was initally a little surprised they are showing any old GPs. Autosport reports that these are 'pre-Concorde Agreement' races, which would explain how the BBC still have the rights to them.

I remember a few years back when the BBC were did a special to celebrate 40 years of Grandstand. Formula 1 was the only sport not to be featured, because despite the BBC coverage being partly responsible for F1's rise in popularity the rights now belong to Bernie and he wanted a substansial sum to let them show any clips.

Yes, all of these are pre-Concorde. They'll be showing the 1973-1980 races according to their schedule, every weekend for the next six weeks, including repeats for those like me who missed this first lot!

:(

Well do ITV have an archive? I know they bought the rights after 1996 but surely they may have bought their archives?

In America Speed used to show classic races from the '90s... :(

ITV only have a licence to broadcast coverage, they do not have the subsequent rights to resell that footage.

Similar to showing a film - they have the rights to broadcast that film a certain number of times but they don't 'own' the film.

Tim....do you have any idea when the next classic GP's are on and which one's they are?

I looked on my Sky Guide and see nothing for this weekend! :(

ESPN Classic is also having a series "Racing Through Time" which covers F1 racing from (I think) 50s, 60s and 70s.

1973: Tomorrow 2200-2300 & & Sat 23/9/06 2200-2300 & Sun 24/9/06 1600-1700
1974: Sat 2/9/06 2200-2230 & Sun 3/9/06 1600-1630
1975: Sat 2/9/06 2230-2300 & Sun 3/9/06 1630-1700
1978: Sat 9/9/06 2230-2300 & Sun 10/9/06 1630-1700
1979: Sat 9/9/06 2200-2230 & Sun 10/9/06 1600-1630
1980: Sat 16/9/06 2200-2230 & Sun 17/9/06 1600-1630
1977: Sat 16/9/06 2230-2300 & Sun 17/9/06 1630-1700
amongst other times...

Is there a '76?

&
Goodwood 2006 (!) 2300-2330

Excellent Adam, thanks! :beer:

Thanks mr Adam!

Is there a '76?

Yes,I have it on a tape with Race of Giants at Macau (GP Masters in Escorts:)
produced by Formula One Films ,London.

Thanks mr Adam!
No problem, but it is Dr Adam. :)

I think the showings will continue, I got bored looking. Odd how they show '78 and '79 consecutively, but the wrong way round!
Yes,I have it on a tape with Race of Giants at Macau (GP Masters in Escorts) produced by Formula One Films ,London.Complete with Murray?

Excellent, i might be able to catch them! Cheers Dr Adam! ;)

I have the full 79 race already.....complete with Murray, James Hunt's first commentary and Jackie Stewart! :rotate:

Oh, the 1973 race last night was top notch BTW. 50 minutes as well, so a good length.

Peterson through the old Woodcote corner.....bliss.

1973: Sat 23/9/06 2200-2300 & Sun 24/9/06 1600-1700
1974: Sat 30/9 22:30, Sun 1/10 16:30
1975: Sat 30/9 22:00, Sun 1/10 16:00

Blast I failed to see '79 (too much to record on those days and ineptitude).

Then we have a racing through time programme, with the subject being Silverstone on 7/10/06 (2200) and 8/10 (1600). IIRC that has some good footage of XJS at Silverstone in '82. :)
15/16 and 21/22 has four programmes about Jackie Stewart (himself and his team). I think I have seen that before (on beeb?).

It looks like they are having a bit of a Motorsport break after that :(

That must be the lot then, because they have shown all those races.

The Jackie Stewart programmes are "The Flying Scot" documentary, broken up into chunks as far as I can tell.

So I look forward to 'Racing Through Time'!

Well today they showed 1980 on their '70's F1 show :p Not that im complaining, a good race that one plenty of tyre drama's!

I will definetly have to catch the 1973 programme, I missed that one to when it was shown originally! Im praying that they can show some late 80s races, perhaps even some oversea's races, Monaco would be good!

I wish I could get my hands on the archive, I would have a whole channel dedicated to Motorsport and old races if I had my way! :rotate:

There won't be any late 80's races I doubt.

I want to know why there has been no 1976!

No I understand that its highly unlikely, but no harm in dreaming!

I just had a quick search and found the channels website. Now we can all see whats on and when :)

http://www.espnclassic.com/deadgoodsport/sportalizer/index.asp

I guess this is where Adam has been getting all his info.

Yes it is. Although it has been available since the channel was launched. It isn't the best and can take a bit of effort to gleen desired facts from it. Style over content really. However the info is there.

Just thought I'd give a heads up to anyone that would like to see these two races, today at 4pm and 4.30pm :)

Bah, clashes with the footy though, damn!

Cheers for the heads up tl. :beer:

Yep, just about to go watch.

I love watching all the classic races, especially to compare the circuits form then to now.

:( Clay was racing...

It's odd how few cameras there were in those days. Tom Pryce went off and you didn't see any other shots. You take todays TV for granted.

One thing - the incident that caused the red flag - pretty disturbed when the shot switched to a driver looking in a bad state - who was that.

What was the name of the program so I can search for it.

What was the name of the program so I can search for it.It is just called "Formula 1 - British GP" and then the year.

29th December is Motorsport day on ESPN Classic. A chance to catch the above if you missed it. And much much more.

Anything new?

It is just called "Formula 1 - British GP" and then the year.

29th December is Motorsport day on ESPN Classic. A chance to catch the above if you missed it. And much much more.

Oh, ESPN Classic UK

Oh, ESPN Classic UKYes, sorry.Anything new?Nah, just a chance to catch up on those that were missed!

The whole British GP series.
The Jackie Stewart documentary too.
The Season - The race for Indy. (2004 Indy doc.). repeated the following day too.
Mille Miglia - Chequered History.

Most of it is on twice too.

As the title says, ESPN Classics are showing these old races (except 1976's which was not filmed.)

I thought they were going to be shown in full though. What I've seen so far are quite heavily edited, going from lap 1 to lap 10 in a few minutes for example.

All the programmes are 30 minutes, apart from one year which is one hour.

That's a pity. If they're going to do something like that, they should do it in full.

Was about to post this was on! Watching it now, great stuff - so different to what I'm used to. Any idea why 76 wasn't filmed?

It would be nice if they did it in full but it said earlier they do a "sports day" so guess maybe it's a time issue. Am grateful to be able to watch even half an hour having not seen it before.

Something to do with the BBC not being happy about Durex sponsorship on Alan Jones's car.

Apparantly contraception is a bad thing.

Riiiight...interesting one but thanks for the enlightenment!

They are showing a Barry Sheene programme on January 6th, according to their adverts! :rotate:

There's also Jackie Stewart programmes on all day and currently showing the Millie Miglia (spelling apologies in advance!).

edit - Adam, apologies, just spotted your post earlier in the thread.

That's a pity. If they're going to do something like that, they should do it in full.

From what i have been told what has been shown is all the BBC kept, (ie... they edited down the original broadcasts to 'highlights', then got rid of it)

Was utterly brilliant actually, just finished qwatching from about 2 o clock this afternoon!!

What intereated me actually was the lack of actualt racing in reality, F1 is no huge way better now than it was then, yes there were more cars and a chaeaper way to get into the sport but the show wasnt that mjuch better!

One great bit was I think the 74 race at Silverstone, Graham Hill had retired his Embassy car and was in the commentary with Raymond Baxter (RIP), and he was talking about it being hard to overtake because of the aerodynamic effect of following someone!! Seems even in the early days of wings the same problems still apply!

But the Stewart programmes was great, Jackie came across just so well, and there were a few really touching bits with him and Ken.

I had seen the first two programmes in the Stewart series but it was the first I had seen the later two looking at the set up of Stewart Grand Prix etc, very interesting. Watched the IRL programme too.

Never realised how beautiful John Watson's 77 Brabham Alfa was though! :)

Imagine that last sentence without "'s 77 Brabham Alfa". :eek:

I have yet to watch the JYS programme. Is it the same series that was on the beeb a few years ago?

I can't tell you I'm afraid Adam as didn't watch it then, can tell you bits and pieces that are in it but none are major enough to jog your memory I don't think.

If it isn't the same series, it's well worth watching.

er, I remember that he sat at a table, presumably at home, and told a story about how he lied to his mother.

hms no help ;)

How about him sitting in "the wood barn" reminiscing and his wife and Ken Tyrrell's wife talking about how F1 and Jackie was then?!

I think it's the same one Adam.

The barn thing rings a bell. I guess the concept of lying to your mother is completely alien to Suze.

I suppose I could actually watch it...

The barn thing rings a bell. I guess the concept of lying to your mother is completely alien to Suze.


Sort of the same as lying to your wife.

I suppose you could...!

Didn't watch every episode and lying to his mother wasn't something I remembered. Of course I've never lied to mine ;) :p

He was in lots of locations. They were Mark Stewart produced programmes.

His mother hated the idea of him racing and initially any races he entered were under a different name.

It's the same one Adam, I'm sure.

They were Mark Stewart produced programmes.
I've still not watched them, but the beeb ones were Mark Stewart produced.

Just watched that Andretti: Road To Indy programme.

What is the point? That programme in isolation is meaningless!

76 race was filmed-I have it on video-one of the first things I bought on aquirring a VCR-Xmas 81.Its on a tape with 'The Race of Giants' an Escort race from Macau.Produced by Formula One Films,London for Claros Limited,Hong Kong and marketed in the UK.by their European Agents;Eastern Advisory Services Limited,London.

I have the John Player GP programme of British GP '76, which is good. I seem to remember James getting irate at Murray on the grid!

Just watched that Andretti: Road To Indy programme.

What is the point? That programme in isolation is meaningless!



It sort of ended without conclusion to me, Didn't even bother with the race.

I assume there must be some sort of 2nd part to it.

Nah, they probably don't have the rights to the race footage!

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don,t know if anyone watches this channel on Sky but tonight i just watched the 1975 British Grand Prix on there
it also tonight has the 1979 British GP

just thought i,d let you know

d-b

Yep great channel and watched it quite a few times! Think has been discussed here before but is a good one to know about :)

don,t know if anyone watches this channel on Sky but tonight i just watched the 1975 British Grand Prix on there
it also tonight has the 1979 British GP

just thought i,d let you know

d-b

I recorded the 1975 Intenational trophy at Silverstone and also the 1975 British GP programs and I just got round to watching them this afternoon. I'm glad I bothered to trawl through the listings before going on holiday to find these two prgrams. Real gems! :)

For me, it was a great education in how F1 racing was back them. I love the proportions of the cars i.e. great big slicks on the rear and tiny ones on the front. They looked so purposeful. They way the rear suspension would move as they mounted the kerbs on the exit of Corpse was pretty spectacular. Some of cars were quite beautifully crafted too, the Hesketh caught my eye as did the Ferrari 312T with its little aero details but the car that really did it for me was the Martini Racing Brabham BT44s, there is something about the front end and the air box on those cars.:) Who designed them?

It was great to see drivers I've read about in action, I'm talking about the likes of Tony Brise, Tom Pryce and Mark Donohue and I actually heard what Ronnie Peterson sounded like. Great stuff ESPN.

ESPN Classic (Sky channel 442)

There are 30mins highlights of the 1965 Monaco and Dutch Grand Prix being shown today (17.03.2007) starting from 2200hrs. Spread the word!

If you miss it, it is being repeated tomorrow (18.03.2007) around 1600hrs but check the schedules to confirm.

Cheers.