Bucharest F3 Results

I expect that those with street circuit experience to have an advantage
Therefore Asmer if he appears, Jelley, Engel, Kennard, Valerio look favorites.
However it depends how they all adapt to a new track, there has been limited time for testing and as in Pau last year there are too many cars to have a safe qualifying. I expect there to be many accidents as too many have not been to a street track before.
Why dont the organisers realise the dangers before they happen?

from what i can gather, the streets are considerably wider than pau, so i'd say there's not going to be as much of a problem as there was at pau. they can manage macau, i'm sure they can cope with bucharest!

May as well post this again as there are two threads running...For anyone who wants to follow the action, timing should be here: http://www.mstworld.com/

It's another version of MST. That's the opening page, so you'll have to follow the FIA GT route to Bucharest and take it from there.bella's right. The circuit doesn't look remotely as tight as Pau and it has to be wide enough to allow the FIA GTs to have a 2 hour race.

well there's not really any overtaking in those races except in the pitlane, so it's probably not so important ;)

*runs away from the fia gt fans waving pitchforks*

well there's not really any overtaking in those races except in the pitlane, so it's probably not so important ;)

*runs away from the fia gt fans waving pitchforks*

Run faster!...and mind out for lamp posts, for you are quite clearly blind.

I agree the streets are wider, but there is usually only one line!
Hopefully the marshalling will be up to scratch as in Macau, and that the drivers take notice.
It will be great there in good weather if it all comes together.

And a local Dacia Logan shunt fest!!

I agree the streets are wider, but there is usually only one line!
Hopefully the marshalling will be up to scratch as in Macau, and that the drivers take notice.
It will be great there in good weather if it all comes together.Marshalling wil be an interesting point.As Romania has not held a circuit race since before WW2 where are they going to find experienced workers from-is a british team flying out?

Have to say that Bucharest may well be a bit of a lottery, but I think we'll probably see more of a level playing field as a result of the fact that no-one's raced here before. I reckon this'll probably play into the hands of the more 'cerebral' drivers over the ones with pure natural speed.

So I'm gonna stick my neck out and say that Stephen Jelley could get his maiden victory this weekend.

hopefully, we won't have the carnage here like at the f3 meeting at pau last year but if there is, we better ship some marshals out. No offence Romania

none taken :)

the cars have arrived in Bucharest .. saw most of them being worked on ..

I think because of the unknown track this is a great leveling ground for some of the alsorans out there this weekend, but also the guys that have experience of street curcuits like Pau may have a slight advantage. Lets wait and see what the times are like once on the track before making any predictions of whos going to win.

"com`on Jelly":rotate:

asmer
engel
moraes
kennard
bird
hohenthal
martin
valerio
perez
grubmuller

http://www.mstworld.com/MSportEvent.aspx?eventid=70013&circuitid=27&series=GT&venue=Romania&circuit=Bucharest

that's a direct link to the timing page, plus there's a live timing link at the top right of the page :D

QUALIFYING FOR RACE ONE

Asmer 1.11.681
valerio 1.11.841
hohenthal 1.12.358
bird 1.12.373
breen 1.12.501
engel 1.12.771
mustonen 1.12.846
mansell 1.12.999
jelley 1.13.094

Asmer was top dog all day
Sebastian Hohenthal hit the wall in t1 i think
Guerrieri had trouble with the 2nd chicane . spinning and causing a red but also hitting the wall with his front wing

it rained very lightly during the running.. but it's raining heavily now in Bucharest .. and it was very very cold .. especially in the morning

3rd chicane :) ..
http://www.fota.co.uk//news.php?action=showArticle&params%5Bid%5D=250

the view from the exit of that chicane is great

Jelley on pole for second race - Asmer in 10th. Drying track made the last 5 minutes a bit of a lottery as the times tumbled.

Full report, results and audio interview with Jelley and Perez here (http://www.britishf3international.com/news.php?action=showArticle&params%5Bid%5D=259)

Max Chilton 13th, pretty damn good even if it was a lottery. I just hope Jelley gets his first overall race win this weekend! Perez is going well and getting into the top 10 overall, one to watch I think.

Men & Motors GT coverage (on now) reports that the race was carnage. Any news on what happened and the state of drivers??

drivers were ok .. and not that much of a carnage .. the SC stayed too much on track . only about 6-7 green laps out of 16 ..
chinese driver .. forgot his name .. lost it in the 3rd chicane .. and collected another 2 ..

Presume Cheng from Nat class? Shame SC was out for so long. Believe he's now second in Nat class championship. See Asmer won, and there were three SC periods all in all.

Carnage isn't the adjective I would use but there weren't many racing laps (listen to Marko Asmer in the post race press conference on the British F3 website here (http://www.britishf3international.com/news.php?action=showArticle&params%5Bid%5D=260)).
Cheng speared across the track and collected Leo Mansell and then Francessco Castellacci ran into the back of Leo. Both Mansell's are out of the race today, Greg's tub was damaged in the shunt with Seb Hohenthal and Leo OK but shaken after the accident and will sit it out on medical advice - not a good day for Fortec. There will be 28 starters for Round 6.
Next race at 10:45 (8:45 UK time).
Jeff

Can't you allow Greg drive Leo's car Jeff?

Race 2 now run.

1. Sam Bird
2. Niall Breen
3. Stephen Jelley
4. John Martin
5. Marko Asmer
6. Michael Devaney
7. Seb Hohenthal
8. Jonathan Kennard
9. Mario Moraes (from the back of the grid)
10. Rodolfo Gonzalez (including 5 second penalty

Valerio clashed with Jelley at turn 1, Jelley continued, Valerio retired. Then Mustonen (leading) and Engel clashed at the first chicance - both out.

In National Class:

1. Sergo Perez
2. Viktor Jensen
3. Cheng Cong Fu

Michael Meadows and Ali Jackson crashed out

Go Johnny Martin! He made a massive gain in Race 2 to come 4th was it wet or did something happen? Sorry im in Aus and only see results on F3 site...Sounds like a pretty good effort being a Honda engined car?

Go Johnny Martin! He made a massive gain in Race 2 to come 4th was it wet or did something happen? Sorry im in Aus and only see results on F3 site...Sounds like a pretty good effort being a Honda engined car?

he did well, passing asmer and gonzalez at once i think? and a few more! not sure though, and as many people will tell you, ther is nothing wrong with the honda engine;)

does bird's win make that the f3 race this year not to be won by asmer?

yeah .. Marko was pushing Gonzalez .. was trying a pass on the outside coming down .. but Gonzalez "pushed" Marko wide .. and Martin passed both on the inside .. great move ..

the conditions today didn't really help Marko ..

does bird's win make that the f3 race this year not to be won by asmer?


didn't engel won round1 race 1 ??

Yes, he did so to answer roachy - no, it doesn't! I didn't see the F3 race but did see the GT3 yesterday afternoon afterwards and it was pouring down.

Can't you allow Greg drive Leo's car Jeff?
John
No, the F3 rules don't allow this to happen. They had to repair Greg's chassis to enable him to race but the tub was damaged. It was frustrating for the team and the drivers but rules are rules!
Jeff

does bird's win make that the f3 race this year not to be won by asmer?
Roachy
Three winners so far this season
Round 1 - Engel
Rounds 2, 3, 4, 5 - Asmer
Round 6 - Bird

The F3 race was dryish (some puddles on the circuit), though there were a few spots of rain towards the end of the race. As Suze says, it poured it down for the GT3 race later so we were pretty lucky.

Jeff

did i see that john martin finished 4th in the 2nd bucharest race :rolleyes:

if so, lots of :beer:

did i see that john martin finished 4th in the 2nd bucharest race :rolleyes:

if so, lots of :beer:
Yes, John drove a great race and deserves the plaudits.

Roachy
Three winners so far this season
Round 1 - Engel
Rounds 2, 3, 4, 5 - Asmer
Round 6 - Bird

The F3 race was dryish (some puddles on the circuit), though there were a few spots of rain towards the end of the race. As Suze says, it poured it down for the GT3 race later so we were pretty lucky.

Jeff

thanks for that. couldn't quite remember. the race ceraintly had some carnage. good to see sam bird do well

A few random thoughts and facts about the weekend:

As street circuits go, Bucharest was great. There are a few tweaks that need to be done if a return visit is planned, but this could easily become one of the best street circuit events on the calendar.

Sam Bird (http://www.britishf3international.com/gallery.php?action=showImage&params%5Bid%5D=777) was on top form all weekend and thoroughly deserved his win in race 2. You would never have known it was his first street race, because he went about it in exactly the right way. After a slight blip at Donington, Carlin were also right back on their game.

Marko Asmer could have dominated the weekend but for a slow Q2. His recovery drive was an example of how to keep a cool head under pressure. Rodolfo Gonzalez drove like an idiot and fully deserved to be penalized.

It was a shame about the weather. Thursday was blisteringly hot, but after that we might as well have been back home in England. It felt as though F3 was unlucky with the weather, because several times the cars took to the track just after a slight shower, but compared to the consistent rain on Sunday afternoon, we were actually quite lucky.

For the record, Asmer's time of 1m 11.681s in Q1 was the quickest of the weekend and his fastest lap of 1m 13.645s in race 1 is the new outright circuit lap record.

The Safety Car situations were very badly handled in my opinion. Both races were started behind the Safety Car for different reasons, so ignore those, but the first intervention in race 1 and the only intervention in race 2 were crazy because the Safety Car came out in the middle of the pack and it took ages before the driver started waving slower cars by and then he had to pick up the leader and wait while everyone else caught back up behind him. That's why the interventions were so long. The only time they got it right was the second time in race 1.

The Romanian people were very friendly, polite and helpful, and didn't seem to resent the fact the fact that their city had been severely disrupted by this big new motorsport event. The grid girls (http://www.britishf3international.com/gallery.php?action=showImage&params%5Bid%5D=763) were definitely a cut above what we are used to!

The traffic in Bucharest is horrific, but there are some wonderful buildings to look at whilst stuck in it! The very pleasant F3 paddock was just off what looks like a roundabout on the circuit map, but is in fact entirely a man-made affair.

The Romanians did a phenomenal amount of work in the 36 hours between when we arrived and the official start of track action. Most of the Marshals came in from Germany, with a few from Austria and Belgium. They were pretty good, but didn't seem to know how to write reports. The situation was saved by the excellent TV coverage.

The National Class is shaping up into a nice three way battle between (in current order order) Frankie Cheng, Mike Meadows and Sergio Garcia.

I agree with a lot of your comments, however it was a shame about the weather, as that stopped a lot of locals coming to watch. The cost of entry was an obvious barrier for the locals who judging from those trying to watch either over or through the sheeting around or precariously perched on surrounding buildings.
The circuit was very good for the first time, and the marshalling ok.
Better notice of flags by drivers would have saved some cars, and the recovery after accidents was poor. The flat bed trucks caused some extra repair bills. Cranes like Macau would have been the best answer.
The first race was spoilt by the safety car. The crowd were never given the excitement of a race start which was a shame, but there are many good points to suggest it is worth going again.
Race two will make good TV as will the GT3 and FIAGT races.
Lets just hope that the damage bills and injure drivers are all ok.

Marko Asmer could have dominated the weekend but for a slow Q2. His recovery drive was an example of how to keep a cool head under pressure. Rodolfo Gonzalez drove like an idiot and fully deserved to be penalized.

if the second race would've been completely dry .. we would've probably seen him drive to the front . .he had a big advantage in those conditions from what I could see

The Romanian people were very friendly, polite and helpful, and didn't seem to resent the fact the fact that their city had been severely disrupted by this big new motorsport event.

hehe .. some did actually .. but hope they realized that it was very important for others to have the event ..


The grid girls (http://www.britishf3international.com/gallery.php?action=showImage&params%5Bid%5D=763) were definitely a cut above what we are used to!

beautiful girls .. they're national treasures ;)



The very pleasant F3 paddock was just off what looks like a roundabout on the circuit map, but is in fact entirely a man-made affair.

indeed it was .. it was nice to be able to walk and take photos of the cars .. and i love the "little" F3 cars
wish them to be back .. and no rain hopefully ..
btw .. this morning sunny and a lovely weather .. of course :)

Some terrific photos at the Brit F3 (http://www.britishf3international.com/gallery.php) website. What a great looking venue for a street race. :cool:

no way no Tv again. its hard, i can't even walk through my cable tv prodider charge it to the game. im not platinum like american express.
ricardo teixeira was setup less during the weekend. brave man. you'll understand soon enough.. soon enough!

The Romanian people were very friendly, polite and helpful, and didn't seem to resent the fact the fact that their city had been severely disrupted by this big new motorsport event. The grid girls (http://www.britishf3international.com/gallery.php?action=showImage&params%5Bid%5D=763) were definitely a cut above what we are used to!Eh, except for the noise (by the way I didn't know that those little cars can make that much noise!) it had little influence. The traffic sucks anyway, we didn't even notice the difference ;).

Oh yeah, they were cute weren't they..

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b154/Roofilica/bucrace/gridgirl2.jpg