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10-Tenths Motorsport Forum - 1,7,36,37,101 http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/ en Fri, 24 May 2013 08:24:35 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/images/misc/rss.jpg 10-Tenths Motorsport Forum - 1,7,36,37,101 http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/ LM24 F1 Feeder Series.... http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137868&goto=newpost Thu, 23 May 2013 21:22:55 GMT ....More fuel to the recent fire (from the FIA WEC Facepalm feed):

"Fernando Alonso name-checked the 24 Hours of Le Mans yesterday in the Monaco GP drivers' press conference - one of the three biggest and best known races in the world. Today Dario Franchitti, 3 time winner of the Indy 500, says he'd like to try the World Endurance Championship...sport car racing is on the top of everyone's mind!!"

I know it keeps getting commented on a lot by the likes of Radio Le Mans, but endurance/sportscar racing does seem to be becoming a lot more popular amongst the drivers (that said they do seem to be a lot more 'mobile' moving between disciplines in recent years).

[ETA - Possibly should have popped this in the wider sportscar section, sorry!] ]]> 24 Heures du Mans Muppetdave901 http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137868 Rumours Lexus and Kobayashi for 2014 ???? http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137865&goto=newpost Thu, 23 May 2013 01:27:52 GMT I am here at Monaco and I am excited to learn ( just a rumor folks ) that Toyota under the banner of Lexus and driver Kobayashi will be on the grid... I am here at Monaco and I am excited to learn ( just a rumor folks ) that Toyota under the banner of Lexus and driver Kobayashi will be on the grid come 2014. Lets hope it is true. ]]> Formula One Peralta http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137865 <![CDATA[Ford To Close Broadmeadows & Geelong in October 2016]]> http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137866&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 23:05:33 GMT Press conference coming up with Ford AU, reports are that it is stopping all manufacturing in Australia

Herald Sun article ]]> Australasian Touring Cars. birtek http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137866 Official Round 6: Monaco Grand Prix http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137861&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 13:25:30 GMT Monaco has defined Formula 1 since the inception of the World Championship. Its list of past winners reads as a veritable “who’s who” of Formula 1. ... Monaco has defined Formula 1 since the inception of the World Championship. Its list of past winners reads as a veritable “who’s who” of Formula 1.

Juan Manuel Fangio won the 1950 Grand Prix, Sterling Moss and Jackie Stewart claimed three victories, Graham Hill five. Three of the most spectacular drivers in history, Jochen Rindt, Ronnie Peterson and Gilles Villeneuve, all were victorious before their deaths before the dominance of Alain Prost, Aryton Senna and Michael Schumacher. This trio carved out every Monaco GP from 1984 until 1995. In recent years Fernando Alonso, Kimi Raikkonen, Lewis Hamilton have all won around the streets.

Monaco is therefore one of the few race tracks where you can legitimately say that it separates the great from the good. Where talent can overcome a car and give a driver the opportunity to make the difference.

The Monaco Grand Prix circuit

Like Monza, Silverstone or Spa-Francorchamps Monaco is a Grand Prix steeped in history and tradition. It holds a unique place in Formula 1 and a unique schedule. Practice will get underway on Thursday with Friday a traditional “rest” day. With no margin for error Monaco is the ultimate test for drivers and each corner of the track comes with risks and a history of incidents.

The lap starts with Sainte Devote. Drivers weave their way through the pit “straight” before picking their braking point to the first corner. With the apartment complexes and buildings lining the track it’s difficult to find the braking point in the shadows and a quick lap can be over before it starts with drivers having to use the escape road. The first corner of the race is treacherous with drivers trying to find a way through the second gear corner and carnage, such as 1995, can easily occur.

Once through Sainte Devote the track rises towards Beau Rivage. Television does not do this section of the course justice; it is incredibly steep with drivers cresting the hill at 280 kmp/h on the entry to turn three. Scrubbing 120 kmp/h and four gears you hug the apex with the Hotel de Paris on one side and the world famous Casino on the other.

Shooting towards Casino Square and its fourth gear corner. The car will want to udnersteer towards the outside barrier due to the camber of the road so the challenge is to keep the car as close to the apex as possible. Once through the fast right hander one of the many unique challenges of Monaco is presented; the crown of the road towards Mirabeau.

Jinking from the left to the right and back to the left drivers will try and avoid the worst bumps on the track before braking into Mirabeau. The second slowest corner of the lap sees drivers hug the inside of the track and try and use the storm drain on the inside to force the car to keep its line towards the hairpin.

The slowest corner of the entire season, taken at just 35 kmp/h, the hairpin has seen it’s fair share of “activity” over the years with the 2000 race blighted by a mass pileup on the first lap that forced a red flag.

Once through the hairpin the next challenge is Portier. Michael Schumacher crashed at Portier 1 in 1996 and Aryton Senna at Portier 2 in 1988. Once through Portier the tunnel is the next challenge. Through the apex of the tunnel there is a bump in the road and if you hit it wrong you can easily be sailing towards the barriers with no chance of recovery. The biggest difficulty in the tunnel however is adapting to the changes in light. From the light to the dark to the light again is difficult for the drivers.

As they exit the tunnel the track falls down hill towards the seafront chicane. It was here that Alberto Ascari somersaulted into harbour. We’ve also seen drivers crash here in recent years with Jenson Button and Sergio Perez both having been hurt in heavy crashes.

The final third of the lap sees drivers tackle two of the faster corners of the lap-Tabac and the Swimming Pool. Tabac requires drivers to thread the eye of a needle in fourth gear with the Swimming Pool chicane slightly faster. Drivers than enter the much slower second chicane that will take drivers towards La Rascasse, where Michael Schumacher famously “parked” during 2006 qualifying.

There might be a bar on the apex of the corner but there’s no time to waste for drivers before they enter straight away into the final corner Anthony Noghes. The race will be 78 laps on Sunday and any lose of concentration will lead to an instant retirement. The challenge is immense and the spectacle provided is Formula 1 at its very best!

Can Mercedes win in Monaco?

With three consecutive pole positions it is clear that Mercedes have the fastest car on Saturday in Formula 1….race day however has been a very different story. The team has been unable to find a way to maintain tyre life and Nico Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton have fallen down the order at each race.

Barcelona was a disaster for the team with Hamilton eventually finishing 12th while Rosberg raced well, with a three stop strategy, to finish sixth but it was obviously a day that had started with the promise of more than just a handful of points for the team. Finding a solution to their tyre woes is not going to be easy but Monaco is not a circuit that is traditionally tough on rubber and with overtaking so difficult a perfect storm may develop for Mercedes.

Hamilton said after the Spanish Grand Prix that it was one of the worst days of his career but Monaco should give him the opportunity to move on quickly from Barcelona:

“Whilst there hasn't been a lot of time since Barcelona, we've been working hard to put the disappointment of the last race behind us and focus on the opportunities ahead,” said the 2008 world champion. “Monaco is one of my favourite races of the year and I love driving the streets there. As a driver, you know that you have to perform on every single lap and it's a challenge that I really enjoy.

“It's a real experience to see the barriers flashing past at high speed and I love the fact that the fans can get so close to the track making for a great atmosphere. Perhaps more than at many other tracks, qualifying and getting the best possible track position is crucial in Monaco, but we have to keep our focus on Sunday as well and keep working to improve our race pace.”

For Ross Brawn the focus will be getting both drivers comfortable on track rather than look to bring developments to the race. Knowing exactly what you have at your disposal is key in Monaco and building confidence through the weekend is the target. Brawn knows that his drivers are strong in Moanco and it is not beyond the realms of possibility team could spring a surprise:

“Both Nico and Lewis have historically been incredibly competitive in Monaco and this weekend will certainly allow their talent to shine,” said the Mercedes Team Principal. “The engineering team will be focused on getting the most from our car on the slow, bumpy layout and there will of course be particular emphasis on achieving tyre consistency and durability."

Lotus keen to continue early season momentum

The coming races are crucial for Lotus. The team started the season with a victory in Australia and Kimi Raikkonen has finished second in each of the last three races. His Malaysian outing, finishing seventh, is the lone outlier for the Finn who has been arguably the most consistent driver in the field thus far.

Trailing Sebastian Vettel by four points in the championship it is already clear that the title will be fought between the duo and Fernando Alonso. For Lotus and Raikkonen to win the title it will be important to add another victory to his haul but continuing his consistent form will see him remain in contention.
Exceeding expectations is not enough for Raikkonen and he moved to dismiss any member of the team feeling satisfied with their start to the campaign:

“Well, we're not in first place so we can't be too happy,” commented the 2007 world champion. “For sure it's not a nightmare, but we've still got a lot of races yet to come and anything can happen in Formula 1.”
“The Iceman” also went on to talk about the challenges of this weekend and how this weekend’s race is no different to any other race on the calendar even though Monaco is special.

“It's useless to put races in different categories, because all of them are as important as each other if you want to win a Championship. However, as a real special race there is nothing like Monaco; there is no better feeling than to get things going well there. To race in the streets of Monte Carlo is really different from everywhere else and it's a challenge I look forward to every year. It is very, very difficult - almost impossible in fact – to have a clean weekend down there.”

While Raikkonen has had a consistent start to the campaign his teammate, Romain Grosjean, has had a turbulent season. His podium in Bahrain has been the highpoint but chassis and setup problems early in the season and a mechanical failure in Barcelona have left him seventh in the standings. Last year the Frenchman qualified fourth but an opening lap clash with Michael Schumacher saw his Monaco debut end within seconds.

Street fighter Webber needs to get back to top step

Mark Webber has had a difficult 2013. The rift that was made so public in Malaysia between the Red Bull drivers is obviously still a talking point but the controversy has died down and the championship shows Webber in sixth position and 47 points adrift of his teammate.

Webber had hoped that Barcelona would be the springboard of his championship challenge but even though there are 15 Grand Prix remaining it is difficult to see the Australian as a title contender. He is however a potential race winner on any given weekend.

Monaco is one of Webber’s strongest tracks. He has won here twice in the last three years and he has always been quick in the principality. If Webber can focus on each race weekend and getting the most from the car he may still play a role in the outcome of the championship but this weekend will be very telling for his future.

With his return to Sportscar racing looking more and more imminent Monaco could be seen as a litmus test of Webber’s hopes for the remainder of 2013. If he is soundly beaten by Vettel it will fuel the fires that believe that Webber will struggle for the remainder of the year. If however he can perform to the level of recent years he will show that he is still quick enough to play a role in the championship.

McLaren aim for points

The Barcelona upgrades offered little improvement for McLaren but Monaco is a unique opportunity for the team to make a stride forward. Jenson Button, winner of the race four years ago, could make a major difference this weekend for the team. If he can find a setup that allows him to be comfortable on track he might be able to challenge for a top five finish.

Finding that setup will be difficult however. The McLaren has been poor in slow speed corners and over bumps so Monaco is, theoretically, the epitome of an anti-McLaren track in 2013. Drivers however can make the difference in

Monaco and Button is aiming for points:

"Monaco is unlike any other racetrack in Formula One you need to be inch-perfect for 78 laps in order to win the race,” said Button. “It's a great challenge. We're not yet where we want to be in terms of competitiveness, but I'm confident that we can make another small step forward in Monaco. We'll continue to chip away at the performance of the MP4-28 until it's capable of challenging at the front; there's no other agenda for a winning team like McLaren. The aim for Monaco is to get both cars home in the points, as we did in Barcelona.”

Sergio Perez has had a difficult relationship with Monaco to date. His hefty qualifying crash in 2011, at the chicane, forced him to miss two races and last year, again in qualifying, the Mexican crashed at the Swimming Pool and damaged the car leaving him with an uphill task in the race.

The Mexican spoke about the challenges of Monaco:

"Monaco is a great challenge for the drivers,” said Perez. “It's the only circuit on the calendar where you have to build up your speed during practice, rather than going flat-out on lap one. You push a little bit harder with every lap, getting a bit closer to the barriers each time. Last year was my first Monaco Grand Prix. I missed out on a World Championship point by one position and I'm looking to change that this year.”

McLaren have enjoyed tremendous success in Monaco over the years, 15 victories, but the chances of adding to that total are remote. Simply getting the most from the car and improving is the target for the team. ]]> Formula One frostie http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137861 New Perrin LMP1 ! http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137859&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 10:18:48 GMT This is new and out of nowhere I believe

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107567 ]]> Mal http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137859 Interactive Sportscars Championship http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137855&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 06:34:29 GMT In 2000 or 2001 somebody intented to make a new GT championship with 2 cars for mark. I think it raced only 1 or 2 races. The launch of the... In 2000 or 2001 somebody intented to make a new GT championship with 2 cars for mark. I think it raced only 1 or 2 races.
The launch of the championship was made in the streets of London.
There had Ferrari F40, Lotus Esprit, Dodge Viper, Porsche 911, Ultima GTR, Stealth B6, Marcos 600 LM, Lister Storm and a rare yellow Aston Martin.

Have somebody many phothos of this event?
and Have somebody some information and photos of that Aston Martin? ]]> hondafan37 http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137855 <![CDATA[[iV8SC13R17,R18,R19] SkyCity Triple Crown, Hidden Valley Darwin: 14-16 June]]> http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137854&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 06:06:34 GMT Almost a month apart.. its nearly Darwin time! Can the great 888 continue to dance on the scalps of the rest of the Holden, Ford, Nissan and AMG... Almost a month apart.. its nearly Darwin time!

Can the great 888 continue to dance on the scalps of the rest of the Holden, Ford, Nissan and AMG boys & girls?

Can FPR get through a whole race meeting without a pitstop snafu?

Can BJR win at a circuit they usually seem to go well at?

Can HRT bring some new demon tweak along, only to go slower...?

So... lets pick a winner in the hottest place on earth...

#14... ? :Shrug: ]]> Australasian Touring Cars. GTRMagic http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137854 Banja Luka, Bosnia racing circuit http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137853&goto=newpost Wed, 22 May 2013 00:47:55 GMT Does anybody know about racing at the Banja Luka racing circuit. I think they may be racing there soon and I would like to attend. Thanks. Does anybody know about racing at the Banja Luka racing circuit. I think they may be racing there soon and I would like to attend. Thanks. ]]> Moyer http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137853 LM24 The Official 2013 10Tenths Le Mans Garage Visit - all is revealed! http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137845&goto=newpost Mon, 20 May 2013 21:23:44 GMT And so to the important announcements regarding the Official 2013 10Tenths Garage Visit..... Firstly, the lucky 20 who have been allocated... And so to the important announcements regarding the Official 2013 10Tenths Garage Visit.....

Firstly, the lucky 20 who have been allocated places on the visit, which is provisionally scheduled to begin at 14:30 on Friday 21st June.

19 of the places were easily selected, and yes, there are some very familiar names on the list. But, the 20th place gave us a real headache.

10 members were under consideration for that final place, and a strong case could be put forward for each and every one of them. In the end, we decided to offer the final place to a member who has not previously attended one of our visits, but who has contributed very positively to sportscar discussion on the forum over the past year.

So, as always, my sincere apologies to those who I know will be disappointed to have missed out on a place.

That said, I can reveal that there is the 'possibility' of a visit (different team) on the Friday morning. If this second visit comes to fruition, priority will be given to those we have been unable to offer places to for the Friday afternoon visit. Nothing confirmed (as yet), but please watch this space! ;)

And so, without further ado, the luck 20 are:

Aysedasi
Victor_Ro
GT6
vincegail
Simmi
Tim the Grey
lemansfan
nobster
batmobile
bernard b
Bentley03
CTD
GTfour
Gingers4Justice
isynge
Kpy
one77
Dani Filth
PascaLM
Mike E

Please keep a close eye on this thread for details of what you will need to do over the next few days, with regard to registering with the team who will be hosting us. There will also be details of the time and place we will need to meet on the day.

The identity of the team who will be hosting us in 2013 will be revealed in due course by our 'mystery' 2013 garage visit organiser in due course.....;) ]]> 24 Heures du Mans Bentley03 http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137845 LM24 Le Mans 2013 - Informal Predictions http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137842&goto=newpost Mon, 20 May 2013 18:24:55 GMT So with the lack of a dedicated predictions thread this year I thought maybe we could use a thread to discuss how we think the race is going to play... So with the lack of a dedicated predictions thread this year I thought maybe we could use a thread to discuss how we think the race is going to play out.

There's been a lot of back and forth deliberation in the Audi and Toyota threads but it's hard to see the wood from the trees sometimes in there. And there are also four classes to the race and countless sub-plots to be discussed.

This is just a bit of a mind dump about how I think it will play out and some of my thoughts/questions.

- The big intrigue for me is still P1 and how Toyota and Audi will stack up in a race rhythm. Toyota might be able to go longer and we could have Audi in a hare role we're not always used to. The only problem with Toyota eeking out laps is it relies on the car being there at the finish.

I think the lack of a third car will bite Toyota but that said, do I see both TS030's making it the 24 hours? I don't think I do.

I'm tempted to say it'll be an Audi sweep - but I'm going to believe this year and say we might just get that Rebellion on the podium.

- P2.
I tried to pick out a few top cars but to be honest it's so open that I really don't know where to start. All the line-ups have their downfalls - be it inexperience, rash driving, slower AM guys or just bad luck at La Sarthe. You can't really look at the class in terms of which trio has the most raw pace. There is still always that element of survival. I just hope we see some of the good racing that has been showcased in the ELMS. Will the Michelin-shod teams have an advantage?

- GT - Specifically can Aston do it? Can Corvette be as bad as they were last year? Surely not. Will the AF Corse line-ups and car be able to compete in 2013 spec. I'm really hoping the Vipers can put on a show but again I'm not sure we'll see them on Sunday. Hope I'm wrong. Either way it will be the biggest GT fight of the year.

That's just a few bits and pieces. There's so much more. Will we see these mooted epic laptimes on a par with a few years ago? Will the GreenGT show up etc. ]]> 24 Heures du Mans Simmi http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137842 ALMS at VIR. http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137841&goto=newpost Mon, 20 May 2013 18:08:56 GMT I understand it's a bit early to get excited about the VIR race in early October, but they have released the support series races and tentative schedule for the weekend.

Looks like in addition to the ALMS, we'll get to see:

Spec Race Atom
USGTC
Lamborghini Super Trofeo
ITC

http://virnow.com/2013/05/08/vir-alm...ces-finalized/
http://virnow.com/files/2013/05/ALMS-Schedule.pdf ]]> fanta4 http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137841 Right Country, wrong track/timing http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137836&goto=newpost Mon, 20 May 2013 11:02:19 GMT F1 tracks do not work with the V8's, as we saw on the weekend, and all the tracks they've been on, rumours going around they might be using the longer version next year, but with T888 winning all the races abroad, wouldn't the gaps be wider? it makes no difference if they use the full track. and not to mention the timing, why they pick this date, with a Indycar and NASCAR events going on in the same weekend is just plain dumb planning.. it's maybe one of the reasons they're wasnt as much people.

for me I thought there were much better traditional roadcourses on offer. Sonoma, Laguna Seca or Watkins glen, they should consider these tracks instead. ]]> Australasian Touring Cars. FAS33 http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137836 Stop the Stop Stuff Ups... http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137831&goto=newpost Mon, 20 May 2013 01:21:06 GMT Interesting to watch the V8s in Austin this morning & last, and again we see the lads and ladettes at FPR stuff up yet another tyre stop

Mr Larkham had a couple of stats that were good fun to see, that of the top 10 pitstop times of the Austin weekend (before the last race), the top 8 stops of the weekend were shared, 4 each, with Nismo and RBR.

The #7-ites seemed to spend more than usual time in the pits this weekend, which highlighted many things...

That some teams have their junk together, and could change wheels in an almost seamless motion, helped of course that there were 3 guys a side when 2 tyres were changed.

But surely this is the cheapest place to find lap speed. Any team can run their homologated air tools, practice in their sheds week on week, and get the best benefit they can for their teams.

You could see the difference between the RBR stop, and a BJR one.. the RBR one was not hurried, in/out, into the lane, dont hit anyone... the BJR one less positive, less focused. Quick but not quickest.

Its not all a question of better budgets, or better people... anyone can do this... surely..

:Shrug: ]]> Australasian Touring Cars. GTRMagic http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137831 Does Heidfeld deserve a third chance? http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137816&goto=newpost Sat, 18 May 2013 00:51:17 GMT Watching some old videos on youtube with heidfeld in it and Im simply stunned by the fact that Mclaren chose Kimi over him back in 2001-2002. Of... Watching some old videos on youtube with heidfeld in it and Im simply stunned by the fact that Mclaren chose Kimi over him back in 2001-2002. Of course Kimi is good, but he really deserved it. He got his justice back when BMW enlisted him but he was severly treated unfairly with the bias to Kubica back in 2008. Then in 2011, Boullier ditch him because he "haven't established his position as a leading driver in the team", when he was outpacing Petrov. So, now to the question:

Does he deserve a third chance?
If so, what team would enlist him? Force India, Mclaren?
If not, then why not? ]]> Formula One Marcus666 http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137816 Bernie and the Banker http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137793&goto=newpost Wed, 15 May 2013 22:02:22 GMT Another twist in the F1 finacial deals, Seems old mate in Germany has admitted to bribes and tax evasion during the sale of part of F1. Bernie has... Another twist in the F1 finacial deals, Seems old mate in Germany has admitted to bribes and tax evasion during the sale of part of F1. Bernie has countered saying he was bribed. Another case for the lawyers to get rich, me thinks.

Dont think this will impede on the running of F1, just more free air and press time for F1.

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/191225/...y_charges.html

mods you can move to Concorde Agree and team finances if you wish ]]> Formula One fomoco http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137793