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Old 26 May 2012, 11:20 (Ref:3079450)   #1
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Maldonado 'chop' on Perez
Near the end of FP3 Pastor appeared to chop Perez on the approach to the tunnel entry.
Just wondered who saw and what your thoughts were.
On PlanetF1's forum there is already a massive thread about this and almost everyone wants Maldonado to receive a ban (some even permanent).
Anyone think it could've been accidental?
Herbert, Brundle and Hill think it was deliberate. If so, whatsort of punishment can be expected?
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Old 26 May 2012, 11:34 (Ref:3079454)   #2
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Should get at least a race ban for that. Same applies to the MSC incident.

Just a 10 place penalty received. Considering hamiltons dsq last week that seems like a slap on the wrist at most.
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Old 26 May 2012, 12:34 (Ref:3079472)   #3
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Just a 10 place penalty received. Considering hamiltons dsq last week that seems like a slap on the wrist at most.
Technical regs vs sporting regs...
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Old 26 May 2012, 12:56 (Ref:3079475)   #4
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Punishments received should be comparable across different infractions.

Plus it is completely deliberate.
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Old 26 May 2012, 13:26 (Ref:3079494)   #5
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Punishments received should be comparable across different infractions.

Plus it is completely deliberate.
Running a car dry of fuel could be deemed as deliberate too.
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Old 26 May 2012, 22:07 (Ref:3079667)   #6
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Running a car dry of fuel could be deemed as deliberate too.
Very true, but unlikely to endanger another driver whereas deliberately chopping another car is.

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Old 26 May 2012, 11:34 (Ref:3079455)   #7
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Over on autosport forums, some people seem to think it was either a mistake or EVEN Perez's fault!
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Old 27 May 2012, 07:35 (Ref:3079744)   #8
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Over on autosport forums, some people seem to think it was either a mistake or EVEN Perez's fault!
That just speaks volumes for the quality of forum and poster over there though doesn't it?
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Old 27 May 2012, 07:53 (Ref:3079750)   #9
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Based on a few examples of his antics, it would be interesting to learn which driversPastor admired on his way up the ranks.... Has he ever mentioned anyone?
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Based on a few examples of his antics, it would be interesting to learn which driversPastor admired on his way up the ranks.... Has he ever mentioned anyone?
TGF, I wouldn't be surprised
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Old 26 May 2012, 12:23 (Ref:3079468)   #11
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Old 26 May 2012, 13:40 (Ref:3079504)   #12
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I assumed he got a penalty for an engine change. Ffs.

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Old 26 May 2012, 14:51 (Ref:3079523)   #13
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I think he just oversteered, slid wide and then clipped Perez, no deliberate intention.
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I think he just oversteered, slid wide and then clipped Perez, no deliberate intention.
Like Martin Brundle, I don't buy Maldonado's comedy theory about that.
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Old 26 May 2012, 15:11 (Ref:3079535)   #15
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Maybe he didn't see Perez...
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I think he just oversteered, slid wide and then clipped Perez, no deliberate intention.
if that was the case they'd have been able to prove it with data surely?
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Oh no he defo turned in a bit early. Had something happened earlier round the lap?

Mind you if he was trying to mess with Checo's head it worked.
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He's probably going to have to change his gearbox now. Does that make you all any happier?

Hamilton's penalty was McLaren's penalty. You break the technical regulations and you can be disqualified (think Button and BAR). It doesn't go to the stewards to decide the penalty because it's a straight forward infringement of the technical regulations.

Maldonado, on the other hand, wasn't breaking any technical regulations - just his own car along with other drivers cars.
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That naughty Maldonado..

Trying very hard, and around Monaco this stuff happens....
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I seem to remember Eddie Irvine getting a 3 race ban for running into somebody early in his F1 career, would such a ban be more appropriate in Maldonado's case?
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I have said it once and I will say it again, Pastor Maldonado is a dirty driver and for his actions today should not race in Monaco..
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Hopefully he will be suitably punished tomorrow with a poor race in the midfield.
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I have said it once and I will say it again, Pastor Maldonado is a dirty driver and for his actions today should not race in Monaco..
You know that isn't going to happen. But should Williams have turned up with a 'dodgy' car...............
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It's amazing he has the cheek to criticise the stewards in this instance.

Actually, he got a five-place penalty for the incident and five for a gearbox change, so he got off very lightly. It's odd how the penalties are dished out.. not very transparent..
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Who is guest steward in Monaco this weekend, Nigel Mansell ?
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