Patrizi Delusional??

[The Profiler]

Delusion: “A false belief which cannot be modified by reasoning or by demonstrations of facts”


Delusional: The adjective of the above, or more realistically, where the specifics of this forum are concerned: “Michael Patrizi”
I have, over the years been provoked, enticed and even motivated to contribute to these pages but have also come to the view that, in reality it is probably a waste of valuable time and energy. However, every now and then something will happen, the planets will align and a conspiracy of events will occur and I am overwhelmed with the need to vent! This is one of those moments.

The stages are? Paternal, followed by frustration, then pity, anger and finally “I give up!!” These are the stages of dealing with and trying to understand the V8 Supercar participant Michael Patrizi. I use the word “participant”, deliberately as I can assure you, to use the term “driver” would be a huge insult to the many “drivers” that have over the years delivered countless hours of pleasure and entertainment to us all as we have observed, argued and debated over their wonderful attributes and skills

I like many who have watched and observed the comic farce that has been Mr. Patrizi’s efforts to find a niche within what is arguably the most competitive touring car racing category on earth. I have dealt with a plethora of mixed emotions and feelings through this experience. In the beginning, we wished him well and made allowances due to his lack of experience, middle of the year, you still hope but the truth is emerging. Finally when the ride is over and the reality appears in full bloom we have to accept that Michael is nothing but a no talent rich kid who has been given opportunities at life that most can only dream of.

This in itself is at best disappointing and at worst a source of abject frustration. However, I, as I’m sure most, would have happily let Michael’s folly fade away into the background and even though he is highly likely to re appear in next years series? When he finally finds himself without a pocket full of cash and the only drive he is offered is behind the wheel of the Kalgoorlie Ice Cream Truck we would all let this entire tragedy rest peacefully in the historical archives.

That’s how it should have gone? Slap myself in the face, this is the world champion at believing his own BS and happily jamming his foot in his mouth, this is Michael Patrizi.

My little outburst herein, is a result of an article that appeared in the “Kalgoorlie Miner” news paper today. Thing is it seems it must be ok to say anything and apparently if it comes from young Patrizi’s mouth it is not only OK to say it, it is ok to put it in print. Maybe he thought no one would read it? (We can only hope)

Here are a few quotes from the article with some facts as a response. A link to the article is attached.


“Patrizi emerged from his debut campaign in the prestigious championship series in overall 26th position – not bad for the 24-year-old rookie who signed on for the 2008 series having never previously been behind the wheel of a V8 Supercar.”


Fact: 26th? By last count there were only 29 cars in the field and one of them was the poorly funded Team Kiwi. Things is 26th is as good as last. Not Bad? Leave that to you to decide.


“Following a WA holiday, Patrizi was due to head back overseas last February but instead accepted a Ford Motor Company offer to contest the V8 Supercars.”


Fact: Nice to know there is some truth in this story? Michael has been on one permanent holiday since he was born. There was never and never has been any such offer from Ford. Just the offer of a big cheque from his Dad.


“For the equipment I drove with, we’ve had a sensational year,” Patrizi said.


Fact: Patrizi’s car was Identical (except for the paint job) in every way to the car that the guy who came second in the championship drove. Both car and driver wanted for nothing except perhaps tyres? It was apparently very hard to build up a tyre bank within the team as most of them ended up looking like fifty cent pieces, I am sure you can figure out why?


“The (new) team I will be driving for has a much stronger financial base, which gives me a lot more confidence in what the car’s ability will be and how it will go.”


Fact: More truth? The financial base will be the cash that Michael is paying to play.


“The right people know that as well, which is the best part about it.


Fact: They certainly do! They know you couldn't drive out of sight on a dark night but they'll gladly take your money


“The last five races, I probably made a bit of a name for myself with Mark Skaife,” he said.
“We had some great races and some hard races and probably don’t like each other that much at the moment.


Fact: refer to the beginning of article? Delusional. It is probably the only time you will ever hear the two names mentioned in the same place?
Thing is Michael, you are allowed to say and believe what you want but when these thoughts and comments are aired in a public forum it reflects on a lot of other people, particularly those guys and girls that worked their collective bums off for you and your pathetic efforts. Given the fact that they knew very early on that they were up against it with someone that was not up to the task they continued to give their all without complaint!

For you to make the assertions that you do is not only unfair to them it ultimately only serves to magnify the poor opinion held by many of you. Michael, you need to learn to do your talking on the race track, however the sad truth is it is the only place where you really have nothing to say and probably never will.


I'm going back into hibernation now

http://kalgoorlie.thewest.com.au/reg...ontentID=35456

[Also a Believer]

Some one should head butt that kid.........................oooops thats right.

[GTRMagic]

What team would Mr Patrizi be driving for that has a stronger financial base than Prodrive with Ford factory support??

Whilst I can see some merit to what The Profiler suggests to be a lack of speed in what for all intents and purposes appears to be a very good chassis, its odd that the driver has to pump up his own tyres within such an interview.

Nice pic Here at Oran Park... but it doesnt quite show the Ausdrill car parked on the top of the wall..

[manwell]

What counts as a driver bash these days?

[express]

the original post is an absolute disgrace. on this forum over the years there has been some ordinary posts, but this takes the gold silver and bronze. an attack like this is very common on these forums, particulary by people who have absolutely no idea on what the real story is.

[mspence]

Originally Posted by express

the original post is an absolute disgrace. on this forum over the years there has been some ordinary posts, but this takes the gold silver and bronze. an attack like this is very common on these forums, particulary by people who have absolutely no idea on what the real story is.

Perhaps, but it's certainly better written and better considered than most similar posts from the past!

[Average Punter]

At least Michael Patrizi has put his name to his remarks.................

[cavvy]

Hey profile man, turn your talents to Messrs Thompson & Marshall ! They've been at V8s, in tourers longer than Patrizi.

Do you have an axe to grind re Patrizi &/or Ausdrill?

[Rachel Richards]

Originally Posted by cavvy

Hey profile man, turn your talents to Messrs Thompson & Marshall ! They've been at V8s, in tourers longer than Patrizi.

Do you have an axe to grind re Patrizi &/or Ausdrill?

Is The Profiler actually the ****ed bloke from TEX Onsite that allegedly gave the young chap a tickle-up in the Bathurst pit lane, at day's end on the Sunday ?

[Muznik]

Originally Posted by Rachel Richards

Is The Profiler actually the ****ed bloke from TEX Onsite that allegedly gave the young chap a tickle-up in the Bathurst pit lane, at day's end on the Sunday ?

That was my thought all thru the rant. "This guy works at Tex Onsite, or at least did until just after Bathurst"

Mind you, I did spit my coffee when i got to the quotes regarding Skaife.

[eddie jessop]

You would have to say that at least 33.3 % of the field fall into this category, just insert a new name. D'alberto, Marshall, Patrizi, Thompson, Webb all bring money then there are the others, A.Jones, Mconville,etc making up the numbers.

[STEALTHY]

Billys gonna have to pick up his act. This guy left him for dead!

[dazza027]

Originally Posted by eddie jessop

You would have to say that at least 33.3 % of the field fall into this category, just insert a new name. D'alberto, Marshall, Patrizi, Thompson, Webb all bring money then there are the others, A.Jones, Mconville,etc making up the numbers.

Hey, McConky at that bad... jeez, I thought I may have been a bit harsh on old James Courtney, but wow, that guy seems to be really ****ed at patrizi, makes my whinge look like exactly that, a whinge. This guy has full on sprayed the crap out of young michael. Theres only one driver Ive ever seen sprayed like that and that was g murphy when he took ambrose out of bathurst in 05?
Harsh.

[RotorFan]

There was a good picture of Patrizi parked on the armco in VMAG on Saturday morning, along with some words from Patrizi, the gist of which was...

"It understeered really bad. I don't know what happened."

I wish these monkeys would go back to FF and learn how to race.

[mountainstar]

Originally Posted by RotorFan

There was a good picture of Patrizi parked on the armco in VMAG on Saturday morning, along with some words from Patrizi, the gist of which was...

"It understeered really bad. I don't know what happened."

I wish these monkeys would go back to FF and learn how to race.

I think you'll find that is common with many "young" drivers. They have little understanding of vehicle dynamics and why things happen the way they do. Some have "speed" but no understanding of how to harness it or what exactly is happening when they drive. Thus, when hard times come in their career or they reach professional levels they flounder. There is only so much you can drive around. Fancy engineers and data can only help so much as well, if the driver doesn't understand race car driving.

[motofan]

jesus christ you people are full of ****, the car patrizi was in this year was 4-5 years old, the team owner jim morton was willing to spend no money on improving the car because he had no money and there are more reasons to why he has left the sport then many of you and its a fact that alot of team owners repsect michael and his ability to drive namely the guys at dick johnson racing and fpr YOU delusional about the type of car patrizi was in this year, it was not even in the same league as the other two prepared by fpr i shouldnt say alot of this but i find what you people are writing ridiculous your a bunch of wanna be know it alls

[DJJ]

Originally Posted by motofan

jesus christ you people are full of ****, the car patrizi was in this year was 4-5 years old, the team owner jim morton was willing to spend no money on improving the car because he had no money and there are more reasons to why he has left the sport then many of you and its a fact that alot of team owners repsect michael and his ability to drive namely the guys at dick johnson racing and fpr YOU delusional about the type of car patrizi was in this year, it was not even in the same league as the other two prepared by fpr i shouldnt say alot of this but i find what you people are writing ridiculous your a bunch of wanna be know it alls

It was the ex TKR machine, correct?

[motofan]

not sure if it was ex tkr but it was an old chasis and word down pit lane at bathurst was that they where running less hp then other teams to preserve the engine as they did not bring a spare where as many teams had brand new engines for bathurst as is common practice, but like many of you have said motorsport comes down to budget not just to get the drive but also to perform if patrizi does no good next year then sure ill admit im wrong but to attack a driver in his first year of tin tops or touring cars where he is competing with people with development series and main game experience is unfair and to say wellhe should go into the development series to get experience? the development series is the closest thing to a "money pit" the world has ever seen that series needs alot of work i apologise for the miss spealt words and what not

[porsche91722]

Originally Posted by motofan

jesus christ you people are full of ****, the car patrizi was in this year was 4-5 years old, the team owner jim morton was willing to spend no money on improving the car because he had no money and there are more reasons to why he has left the sport then many of you and its a fact that alot of team owners repsect michael and his ability to drive namely the guys at dick johnson racing and fpr YOU delusional about the type of car patrizi was in this year, it was not even in the same league as the other two prepared by fpr i shouldnt say alot of this but i find what you people are writing ridiculous your a bunch of wanna be know it alls

My read on this, is that if you are a player in the main game then you have to be competitive and be a reasonable contender at each and every round. If you ain't, then you are gonna cop it, from the media and all of us wannabees. And you are damn right, we ARE wannabees, only difference is, we don't have big enough chequebooks, and in my case, any talent.
Then of course, if what the Kalgoolie rag has printed is true, he had better pull his head in and wait till he gets some better results before he makes any more "comment". Lets see how he goes next year.

[Mr Intolerant]

Crash Davis: Your shower shoes have fungus on them. You'll never make it to the bigs with fungus on your shower shoes. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you win 20 in the show, you can let the fungus grow back and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you win 20 in the show, however, it means you are a slob.

Bull Durham 1988

[shadow_man]

Originally Posted by motofan

jesus christ you people are full of ****, the car patrizi was in this year was 4-5 years old, the team owner jim morton was willing to spend no money on improving the car because he had no money and there are more reasons to why he has left the sport then many of you and its a fact that alot of team owners repsect michael and his ability to drive namely the guys at dick johnson racing and fpr YOU delusional about the type of car patrizi was in this year, it was not even in the same league as the other two prepared by fpr i shouldnt say alot of this but i find what you people are writing ridiculous your a bunch of wanna be know it alls

Where are you getting your info? the car was the same as the leading FPR cars, in fact quicker on one test day (but then that was in the hands of a real race car driver...).

What are these reason for leaving the sport?? Jim did an outstanding job for about 40 years in motor racing, pointing the finger at him for a drivers short comings after introducing so many other great races to top line motorsport is way over the mark.

The respect in the pitlane is for the greens in his daddy's pocket, not the skill behind the wheel. I can assure you that Dick isn't one of the guys at DJR that has anytime for someone of the skill and character of Michael Patrizi.

Seems that we here are not the only wanna be know it all's.....

[bazil]

Originally Posted by shadow_man

Where are you getting your info? the car was the same as the leading FPR cars, in fact quicker on one test day (but then that was in the hands of a real race car driver...).

Benalla with a Frost...? Several seconds faster than the cars regular driver, or so the story goes.

[mountainstar]

The Profiler: The facts you presented were merely your own opinions, so don't represent them as facts.

No I don't think Patrizi is great. Saw him drive in Formula BMW in at the Denver Grand Prix in 2005 and he was pretty slow.

[RotorFan]

Originally Posted by mountainstar

I think you'll find that is common with many "young" drivers. They have little understanding of vehicle dynamics and why things happen the way they do. Some have "speed" but no understanding of how to harness it or what exactly is happening when they drive. Thus, when hard times come in their career or they reach professional levels they flounder. There is only so much you can drive around. Fancy engineers and data can only help so much as well, if the driver doesn't understand race car driving.

There shouldn't be any place for those kinds of drivers in professional motorsport.

Even when I began racing in simulators on my computer years ago I did a lot of reading on vehicle dynamics and setup to understand what was going on with the car through corners. I found it extremely interesting, and helped me learn to "dance" with the car, rather than just stamp the pedals and turn the wheel and hope the thing gets around the corner.



Yet "I wanna go fast" seems to be the mantra among many. I'm not necessarily saying Patrizi falls into this category, though.

[NewsStalker]

I wish these monkeys would go back to FF and learn how to race.

Some need to go back to the very basics of plastic pedal cars - putting them into FF (or any category which requires racing) is a danger to others.