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4 Jul 2012, 14:30
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Tyre Pressures in Trailer Tyres.
I've always run my trailer tyres at around 35-40psi pressure. I recently got a couple of tyres for someone and the sidewall figures said 90psi, these were 12 inch 8 plys. I've just bought myself a pair of 6 ply 13 inch and the figures read at 65psi, the tyres I've taken off say run at 45psi.
So should I be running the pressure at the amount it states on the sidewall or a bit lower as I am not loading them to the maximum amount? The sidewall states maximum weight of about 680kg
Twin axle trailer probably grossing about 1800 kg maximum, except when I load it with hay and then it may go to over 2 tons.
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4 Jul 2012, 15:04
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The pressure marked on the sidewall is the maximum pressure to which the tyre should be inflated. Optimum pressure for a given application will vary & will always be lower than the permissible maximum.
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4 Jul 2012, 15:42
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Tim take this advise from someone who mulled no less than 3 tyres in one trip a few months ago and fortunately I have a 6 wheel trailer or lord alone knows how I would have got home. I made the same assumption looked at the sidewalls 90psi, got a heavy car so thought way to go 80psi in each. On the way homeI lost two tyres where the rubber valve had literally blown out under the pressure as I am sure they increased as it was a hot day and did the third one in pulling out of a garage after having to stop every few miles to top up pressures. Its only then I realised the original tyres fitted by Brian James had metal bolt in valves so the moral is you must use these if you are going to run high pressures. I have now dropped down to 45psi with rubber valve stems and have had no further problems and they dont look under inflated at all.
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4 Jul 2012, 16:28
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Size, type and load on the tyre govern optimin pressure.
I have a plate on my trailer (BJT) which tells me what to run at for
a selection of tyres. Which is usefull. 35 psi is what I use.
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5 Jul 2012, 17:04
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We had a spate of tyre problems with a Motor Shuttle until we upped the pressure to about 80psi.
If the manufacturer of your trailer still exists, talk to them.
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5 Jul 2012, 18:36
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I use 8ply caravan tyres on my race box inflated to 45psi never had a problem, running road tyres at 80psi is asking for trouble if it is "handling" wrong then it is loaded wrong !
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5 Jul 2012, 21:24
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There is a formula for working out tyre pressures, on the side of your tyres there will be a " maximum load single " at a maximum psi .
Lets say for example , it states 1460kg at 65psi on your tyre , and your trailer or caravan weighs 1075kg . What you do is 65 divided by 1460 = 0.0445
Then , times 0.0445 by 1075 = 48psi
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6 Jul 2012, 08:15
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Gordon, the weights stamped on the tyres are per tyre not gross weight, in my tyres case It's 640kg per tyre and 65psi
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6 Jul 2012, 11:07
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I dont like 38psi in my road car as its too hard, imagine what 90psi would do in a trailer
You would have to imagine the trailer would bounce a bit (lot), having very little give in the sidewalls at that pressure to absorb even the slightest bump...
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6 Jul 2012, 11:12
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Use the right tyres for the job, and run the pressures recommended by the tyre or trailer firm.
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6 Jul 2012, 11:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewc
Use the right tyres for the job, and run the pressures recommended by the tyre or trailer firm.
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BJ recommend 36.2psi for my original tyres on my trailer which the sidewalls state 45 at full load. My new tyres have a stated pressure of 65 psi at full load and while I wouldn't run that high I think 36 will be too low.
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6 Jul 2012, 11:41
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a simple rule of thumb is the trailer tyres needs to be inflated for the weight of itself and the car its carrying. On my 4 wheel trailer with a fiesta on board, i would put pressures equivilent of say a road going focus (35ish psi) - certainly not 80-90 psi which is dangerously overinflated.
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6 Jul 2012, 16:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dom
a simple rule of thumb is the trailer tyres needs to be inflated for the weight of itself and the car its carrying. On my 4 wheel trailer with a fiesta on board, i would put pressures equivilent of say a road going focus (35ish psi) - certainly not 80-90 psi which is dangerously overinflated.
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The tyres on my truck are supposed to be inflated to 115psi doubles and 125psi single I certainly don't let air out when I run empty so if the tyre states 80psi then surely that's what it should be, or close to it. Don't forget these are van tyres not standard car tyres.
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10 Jul 2012, 13:26
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For many years I've run a 4 wheel trailer on 145/80 X 12 tyres and always run at 45 lbs pressure.
I always now carry 2 spares as many years ago I was taking a friends race car to him in Harrogate and I must have run over something on the kerbside as both nearside tyres disintigrated at the same time.
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13 Jul 2012, 10:01
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One question being missed here, are you running commercial tyres or road tyres ? 8 ply are commercial trailer tyres so would expect to run them at higher pressures than the equivilant 6 ply road tyres.
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