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Old 11 Oct 2001, 10:43   #1
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Who will we change our perception of next year?

It struck me whilst thinking about Suzuka this weekend, that it was a year ago that Jenson Button outqualified Ralf Schumacher, furthering many peoples belief that he was a future world champion. Just a fortnight after Wurz had outqualified Fisichella for the first time, having got his hands on the "good" Benetton.

A year on Fisi has kicked Jenson's butt. The perception of Fisi doesn't seem to have changed much, but Button seems almost universally regarded as not being very good.

The point of thsi post isn't to discuss the why's and wherefore's of this particular situation, but to ask who will shine next year, and who will be shaded?

For example, will Kimi struggle next year, as Jenson has this?

Will next year's Renault allow Button to show Trulli the way?

If Webber gets the Minardi drive, will be match (surpass?) Alonso?

Will Allan McNish be rookie of the year, making Mika S. look slow?

You thoughts....


PS Please Please Please, resist form the Ralf kicks JPM and vice versa, I think that its probably been fairly well aired
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Old 11 Oct 2001, 11:06   #2
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This is difficult for the reason that if any of us are correct then maybe we didn't have to change our perception!

I think that Trulli will have the upper hand in the Renault team, irrespective of whether it is a good car or not. However of the three examples that you have given I think that this is the closest to call.

The other two I see as quite straight forward. Alonso is better than Webber and Salo is better than McNish. I think Salo is more talented and his experience will show too. This is where the chances of my perception being changed are the greatest! I just don't expect it to change!

As Finn/Scot pairings go I think that the interesting one is at McLaren. I presume that DC will have the upper hand, but how close will Kimi be, especially as the season goes on. I rate Kimi highly, but I think this is where my perception might change. If he isn't a match for (or better than) DC as the season draws to an end then I don't feel that he is the next superstar. I'm afraid the perception that I feel may change will be a negative one towards Kimi.
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Old 11 Oct 2001, 11:21   #3
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Alonso will be seen as a little overhyped.

McNish will equal or better Salo as he already has several times in testing.

Raikkonen will outpace Coulthard and DC's career at the top will be over.
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Although Salo may shade it at first, McNish is a great deal better than he may be given credit for. I think that once he gets his feet under the F1 table (and subject of course to the performance/reliability of the Toyota), he will routinely outperform Salo.
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One thing I can see: Minardi won't be at the back of the grid...
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I wouldn't be so sure.....

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I wouldn't be so sure.....

sorry, have you watched the USGP? in the "ones at the end" group Alonso was not included...
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One thing I can see: Minardi won't be at the back of the grid...
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I wouldn't be so sure.....

I'm sure they will.

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They definitely will with Yoong in there.
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I think it is agreed that the Asiatech is only marginally better than the motor they currently use, so unless there is a major horsepower improvement, they could end up behind the Prosts. I don't think Webber will replace Yoong and his money, or am I wrong? Speaking of Prost, there hasn't been a lot written about their development plans for next year, if they have any, so you can't expect much from them either.

If Jensen stays at Renault, he will find Jarno as difficult to beat as Fisi was, I think. It's hard to tell what Briatore thinks about him, especially after remarking that Jensen had to start beating Fisi regularly, or he'd be gone in 2002. So what would Frank do with him, still holding his option, and not likely to excercise it?

I think that with a bit more seat time, McNish will match Salo's pace at least. It's hard to tell from a testing programme how good the car really is (this year's Prost, for example ),so we won't really know until the first race.If they are fairly quick, then our opinions of their chances could definitely change.


Judging by recent articles, it looks like next year could be a make or break year for BAR and Honda, and if our perception of the team doesn't change with the new car and engine, they will be looking for a new engine supplier in 2003.

I think there will be a much better perception of Renault next year. They appear, along with Williams, to be making the most strides forward in development, despite this years bit of espionage.

I would expect the biggest changes at Arrows with the Cosworth, but they need a new chassis with greater fuel capacity. You can't run a light car that requires at least 2 stops with a dog of a motor, or you can't build the gap you need to make your fuel strategy work.

I thought this year was good, but next year is going to be even more interesting, I am sure about that.


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My predictions for next yr:

1) I don't think Minardi will be at the back.

2) Benetton will finish 4th in constructors title.

3) Sato will score a couple of podiums.

and finally...

4) Barrichello will win the title (i hope)!!


p.s these are my personal views and no one elses so please don't slag them off.
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My sense is that as Marshall has suggested, Raikkonen will not "Blow away" Coulthard and will see his star lose some of its shine.

I've never thought much of Salo ansd wouldn't be surprised if McNish showed him the way.

Trulli will be faster than Button, but the dear boy will have some good races.

No, Minardi will not be at the back-the AsiaTech will be much improved.

Frentzen will pack it in before the season is half-over.

Sato will find it hard going.

Fisi will finally be able to run at the front consistently.
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My predictions for next yr:

1) I don't think Minardi will be at the back.

2) Benetton will finish 4th in constructors title.

3) Sato will score a couple of podiums.

and finally...

4) Barrichello will win the title (i hope)!!


p.s these are my personal views and no one elses so please don't slag them off.
I'd like to see all of those with the exception of:

Sauber reataining 4th in the constructors and Sato winning a race with his better Honda engine!
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WHY OH WHY OH WHY OH WHY OH WHY OH WHY OH WHY OH WHY OH WHY didn't Minardi get their hands on the Ferrari's that it is they're DESTINY to have?? I still havn't quite recovered emotionally from that decision.
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WHY OH WHY OH WHY OH WHY OH WHY OH WHY OH WHY OH WHY OH WHY didn't Minardi get their hands on the Ferrari's that it is they're DESTINY to have?? I still havn't quite recovered emotionally from that decision.
Sad Tristan, but true... I told before..
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