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25 Feb 2005, 17:48
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March 71BM
I could have sworn that we had covered these derivatives of the 712M before, but can't find the thread anywhere. (You were correct and the posts have now been added in above, from the B29 thread - JT)
Anyway, Allen told me 12 built
with the following known chassis owners, and I think this might have come from Adam having a sales record of some kind
2 Bill Gubelmann
3 Max Mizejewski
12 Matt Spitzley
Well, with a bit of diligence here are the other owners
Bob Lazier
Ron Dykes
Chuck Dietrich
Michael Rand
Derek Johnson, delivered June [Possibly w/o Trois Rivieres]
Ian Coristine, delivered June
Randy Fraser, delivered July
Wilson Southam, delivered August
Dale Lang, delivered August
Mizejewski must shed his car quickly because by June he's turning up with a new Lola T240
[and in 1973 Bob Newton has a 71BM3 which might mean somethiing]
Anyway, do Allen and Adam have a record with delivery dates and or colours, because with those we can probably put most of these 12 to owners.
Chris
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26 Feb 2005, 00:02
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Chris,
The March sales listing I have shows 13 71Bs made, but unfortunately in this case there is no chassis by chassis listing.
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26 Feb 2005, 06:03
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Presumably No.1 was the STP car crashed by Dave Morgan?
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26 Feb 2005, 10:32
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The Morgan car wasn't a true 71BM I suspect, even though that was how it was sometimes described in programmes. Morgan's first appearances in 1971 are in a 702 that is described as the car used by Ganley at Mantorp in 1970 - F1R calls this 702 [S]. The 71A or 71BM that he then turns to is actually the works prototype 712M [1] on it's first appearance AS says it's the works F2 prototype back from testing in S.Africa. This car eventually goes to the Brambillas for F2 [a terrible fate for a race car...] and the MN report actually mentions that it's still got Morgan's sponsorship on it when it appears at Vallelunga for the GP de Madunina. Morgan then shows up with 713S [1], before switching in September to Ed Reeves' BT35 [8] for some races.
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26 Feb 2005, 13:18
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Originally Posted by Chris Townsend
I could have sworn that we had covered these derivatives of the 712M before, but can't find the thread anywhere.
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It was on the Chevron B29 thread, right here. (And those posts have now been added in here - see my note on Chris' post above - JT)
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Ted's records show 14 71BMs, all the way up to 71BM-17 but omitting 13 and, oddly, 6 and 7.
Most went to dealers: 1, 5, 8 and 10 to Gordon Dewar in Canada and 2, 3, 4, 9, 11, 12, 14, 15 and 16 to Grimaldi in the US. 71BM/17 went to Paul Deetens in Belgium but with a note that it was sent to Montreal for show.
The only entries which show eventual owners were 71BM-2 to Bill Gubelmann, 71BM-3 to Max Mizejewski and 71BM-12 to Matt Spitzley. However, I have some colours and some build dates if anyone can unearth a 1971 US FB entry list that identifies car colours.
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I think Mizejewski may have been a dealer so he may have been racing a car he had in stock.
Allen
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22 Mar 2006, 17:56
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Simon Perkins 71BM at Silverstone, 15 October, 2005:-
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23 Mar 2006, 02:15
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A John Dunham is advertising with photo's a 71B on www.racecarsdirect.com
Bryan.
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13 May 2006, 21:37
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Spotted today at Barbon Manor hillclimb
March 71B 06
This is a monocoque car with a Richardson tuned Hart 1600 engine.
It was bought in October last year by Simon Harratt who has refurbished the car to a delightful standard.
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71bm-9
Allen......
Finally got around to looking at the tag....... it reads: 71BM-9. I've looked for an AM number on the tub but cannot seem to find it. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places. Would it be in the same location as a 722 ?
The car was in the hands of Marc Banher for a whille..... not sure how long. I bought it from the guy whom bought it from him. He had it for a few years. I bought it from him in June of '05. He said he had a logbook(s), but never came up with them.
Hope it shows up in the records. Thanks for the input. brad moore.
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