If you want to race do it on the track!!!!!!!! - 10-Tenths Motorsport Forum

krusty1 · 1 Oct 2006, 23:36

Ok I know that this probably belongs somewhere else but too bad....

I love racing like any other person, I love my car and the fact that if I needed to it can go fast. But seriously we need to get some of these ***** on the road to start thinking about their actions. I am a CFA volunteer as well as a very enthusiastic race fan. My message is IF YOU WANT TO GO FAST YOU BLOODY FOOL DO IT ON A TRACK WHEN YOU ARE UNDER CONTROLED CONDITIONS AND ARE NOT GOING TO KILL YOURSELF, YOUR PASSENGER OR INNOCENT BYSTANDERS!!!! I am sick of attending call outs where I turn up and it is a Clubsport wrapped around a pole, or a GT in a ditch.

By no means am I attacking the sport and by no means am I saying that it the responsibility of ANYONE but the person behind the wheel.

Please be safe you are not Craig Lowndes or Mark Scaife when you are driving on surburban roads!!!

Sorry for the rant, just getting really frustrated.

coln72 · 1 Oct 2006, 23:42

Couldn't agree more

Henry · 2 Oct 2006, 00:02

It's a shame that advanced and defensive driver training isn't compulsory: even the brashness and indestructability of youth would be tampered by an effective demonstration of exactly how quickly a situation can go from in to out of control. Most young lairs only discover it through hard eperience - and generally just in time to realise just how much strife they're in...

I would've thought that if one positive thing might come from the death of Peter Brock, it would be that roadside furniture is nowhere near as forgiving as a sandtrap and detroit concrete... add to that the randomness of oncoming traffic (and that any other traffic around you may not be completely aware of themselves and their situation, let alone yours), and what it adds up to is that there isn't any place for boy-racer mentality on public roads.

Chatters · 2 Oct 2006, 00:33

Absolutely right. I saw a bloke on a motorbike that got thrown off his bike because some idiot was trying to break the land speed record in a Monaro. It
s just unacceptable, and we need to have some harsher penalties put in place.

krusty1 · 2 Oct 2006, 00:35

The problem is the TAC ads just don't work anymore and unfortunately most of these guys only learn their lesson when they are in an accident and injure or kill themselves or someone else. where is the answer?

If only cars were fitted with a stupidity limiter. Gee the roads would be quiet!!!

**GTRMagic** · 2 Oct 2006, 00:44

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Originally Posted by krusty1

If only cars were fitted with a stupidity limiter. Gee the roads would be quiet!!!

They are. Its called a brain.

Anybody can drive a car quickly, getting the thing to stop is a different issue. An its never the going too quickly that is the problem, its the things the driver collects when they stop... (and they do ultimately stop.. somehow)

krusty1 · 2 Oct 2006, 00:57

[QUOTE=GTRMagic]They are. Its called a brain. [QUOTE]

Unfortunately some must have theirs switched off!!

**GTRMagic** · 2 Oct 2006, 01:03

There are speed days at both Eastern Creek and Wakefield Park scheduled regularly through the year

What better way to show off your 'speed' than bring your mates along as you take your pride and joy for a burn round a race track... or at WSID for a run-what-ya-brung drag......

Oaksnaf · 2 Oct 2006, 01:08

For me awareness is a bigger factor in a crash than speed is.

A track day is also less expensive than what a fine and suspended sentance would cost aswell.

Personally I have never seen the point in speeding. And you always end up laughing when a driver flies straight past you, only to end up at the next set of lights.

Chatters · 2 Oct 2006, 01:15

Western Sydney International Dragway opens its doors EVERY WEDNESDAY- Not once a month, not every few months, but every Wednesday of every week. For $45 you can bring your car in and you have four hours of racing to burn some rubber in controlled, and well monitored conditions, so if you do have a crash you won't have to wait for a passer-by to call the Ambulance- There will be one waiting for you.

I don't see why people in NSW want to knock this back! It just seems like plain idiocy to me!

Just expanding for you GTR.

Post 1,500!

pink_bits · 2 Oct 2006, 01:25

Good Thread to start. Especially around Bathurst when we are all at our BBQ'S, the track etc.. How many times have we seen ppl leaving the track or a BBQ after Bathurst doing something silly, burn outs etc... Guys we need to be more careful this year!!

Also I believe we teach our kids how to pass a licence test and not how to drive, 1 year after getting my P's my Dad sent me off to do a Driver Education course with Murcotts. This should be Compulsary for every one who gets a licence. We should also be teaching our future generation (and older folks) Emergency breaking, Slide control, Safe Highway driving also basic maintenance of cars, you would be surprised at how many people do not know how to change a tyre, check their oil and water safely etc....

If the Government were serious about reducing road toll they would take a long hard look at these programs and make them compulsary.

krusty1 · 2 Oct 2006, 01:38

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Originally Posted by pink_bits

If the Government were serious about reducing road toll they would take a long hard look at these programs and make them compulsary.

I agree, problem that we see is the "it couldn't happen to me" mentality. Not that I believe that the vast majority of people could handle it but the best way to educate someone is to scare the living.... out of them. Pictures don't do it. Being in the CFA and attending accients like this has definately made me take my foot off. Not that it was too hard on to start with. I like my life and my sexy XR too much!!!

Get them into a controled situation (as controlled as you can get when it comes to a car) where they have assistance on hand and make them loose control. Show them how easy it is to get all out of shape and what the consequences are!

bestfit · 2 Oct 2006, 02:24

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If the Government were serious about reducing road toll they would take a long hard look at these programs and make them compulsary.

Unfortunately governments only appear to be serious about these problems for as long as the latest fatal crash is making the news.
About 18 months ago, just around the corner from where I live, a teenager took his father's GTR for a joy ride while his father was overseas. He proceeded to wrap it around a power pole at over 200kph (in a 50kph zone), killing himself, his girlfriend and another mate.
It was front page news for a week or so. The public was outraged, the government was outraged and promised all sorts of committees and enquiries to stop it happening again. With the public suitably appeased, the story drops out of the papers and all the fancy promises are dropped and forgotten until the next horror smash. Then it starts again.
In these situations governments in general are great at saying what you want to hear, but are useless when it comes to doing what you want them to do!

pink_bits · 2 Oct 2006, 02:31

I think the Worst ever Thread pic is a little harsh!

krusty1 · 2 Oct 2006, 04:21

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Originally Posted by bestfit

In these situations governments in general are great at saying what you want to hear, but are useless when it comes to doing what you want them to do!

Did it ever cross your mind that it i the responsibility of the idiot in the car who thinks he is invincable.

Worst thread ever huh. Come and have an average night with me and see what we see as volunteers and you might have a little appreciation for what I am on about. I saw one on the weekend where the road was brand new, not a ripple in it, built up area, I drive that road daily but the fool behind the wheel decided that 100+kph in a 50zone was a good idea. Lets just hope that he lives to actually learn the lesson. Not to mention his passenger.

I also think that our roads are enforced very well but unfortunately the burocrats and do gooders and judges are not handing down sentences that are harsh enough. $135 fine or speeding. Not enough when the consequence could have been someones life!!

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