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28 Nov 2006, 22:54
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Terry Sanger's Cortina V8 Mk1 (and others!)
Does anyone have any pics/specs/history on the Terry Sanger V8 Mk1 Cortina that raced in the UK in the 60's ???
Cheers
pauly
Zombie289
Last edited by John Turner; 1 Dec 2006 at 17:49.
Reason: New thread created from a post in the Chassis Archive!
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29 Nov 2006, 10:35
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Any non works 'one off' car enquiries, like that of Zombie 289 regarding the Sanger V8 (was that the ex Doc Merfield 'Fraud' Cortina or another one?) probably warrants a separate thread in the history forum. Unless I get any objections over the next couple of days, I'll do the necessary! 
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30 Nov 2006, 01:18
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Originally Posted by John Turner
Also any non works 'one off' car enquiries, like that of Zombie 289 regarding the Sanger V8 (was that the ex Doc Merfield 'Fraud' Cortina or another one?)
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Yes sir!...and any info on the car while Doc had it would be great also..
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2 Dec 2006, 20:53
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Check this out, I can't accept the credit for originally posting it on 10/10ths but its bloody brilliant and has shots of the Cortina. http://www.jannousiainen.net/storage/1967.wmv
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4 Dec 2006, 18:49
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>>>oh happy days, what a marvellous piece of nostalgia. Do you have links to any more like that? 
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23 Dec 2006, 08:59
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Do you know how much this has cost me.Came into work this morning,all the fitters are glued to the computer,laughing and pointing,would not budge untill the bloody thing finished,well done,trouble is I was at a lot these races! 
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23 Dec 2006, 09:20
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A lot has been said here about Doc Merfield,but what about the time Jeff Uren gave him a drive in one of the Willment Cortinas,he rolled it on what was then bottom bend at Brands,went back to the V8 after that!
He was still bloody mad,the way he handled that Cortina was a very instructional sight.
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30 Dec 2008, 22:44
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HELP! I can't get this website link to work!!
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4 Dec 2006, 11:17
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tentenths gold that thread is !
I can only imagine the V8 Cortinas where effectively Mustangs underneath ? the V8 would have shredded the std transmission . . . although Cortina Disc brakes where probably better than some of the chocolate drums designed in the US in period !!!
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4 Dec 2006, 15:39
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I don't think the Merfield/Sanger V8 Cortina had much to do with Mustangs - for example the V8 was actually a Coventry Climax...
...how do I know this? Having bought a book on Coventry Climax engines recently where there's a photo of a V8 in a Cortina my Dad phoned up his old mate Terry Sanger to see if it was Terry's old car - and it was....
(jonners has requested link to correction, here:- http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/show...5&postcount=17 - alternatively, just follow the discussion! - JT)
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5 Dec 2006, 10:58
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I don't think the Merfield/Sanger V8 Cortina had much to do with Mustangs - for example the V8 was actually a Coventry Climax...
...how do I know this? Having bought a book on Coventry Climax engines recently where there's a photo of a V8 in a Cortina my Dad phoned up his old mate Terry Sanger to see if it was Terry's old car - and it was....
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Profuse apologies to all. Have just spoken to my Dad and I was on the wrong end of the stick on this one.
The first V8 Cortina was the Dobson car that ran a V8 Daimler. This car kept breaking its axle except when Mrs Dobson drove it...
Then there was the Fraud Cortina - Merfield/Sanger - which DID run an American V8 - a Falcon 4.7 litre. Terry Sanger raced this in '66 - '67 winning the Redex Trophy in '67. If anyone out there feels like ticking me off for suggesting that the Fraud Cortina ran anything other than a Ford engine - don't bother...Dad's already given me six of the best...
As for the Coventry Climax V8 this was the abandoned 'Godiva' 2.5 litre Formula 1 project. Derek Merfield (presumably the Australian dental surgeon known as 'the Doc') bought the Godiva engines - there were only ever 2 - had them prepared by Bill Lacey (he of racing motorbike engine fame??) and fitted one in a 2 door Mk 1 Cortina prepared by Ray Harris. Merfield raced this car in 13 races over three seasons ('67 - '70??) and then retired. So on the assumption that there's only one Merfield, he raced a V8 Cortina twice using 2 different engines - the question is whether the car was the same one.
My Dad discussed this with Terry Sanger quite recently but he can't remember precisely what Terry said - it's possible that it was the Fraud Cortina AFTER its famous exploits that appears in the Coventry Climax book (there's only a photo of the engine bay) but Dad is sure Terry will know and he'll probably speak with him soon.
Can one of the moderators please post a link on my previous message directing people to this message???
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5 Dec 2006, 13:24
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Pretty sure the Merfield/Sanger V8 car then went to Brian Bolton. Recall him winning by miles in it with Albert Betts' Jag, Graham Bean's Anglia and Roger Taylor's Dagenham Motors Escort in a good second place scrap at Snett in '69. The car my old man was spannering on fell off at the hairpin on lap 1. Yet another problem with the 'seat to steering wheel interface'.
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5 Dec 2006, 17:53
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Pretty sure the Merfield/Sanger V8 car then went to Brian Bolton. Recall him winning by miles in it with Albert Betts' Jag, Graham Bean's Anglia and Roger Taylor's Dagenham Motors Escort in a good second place scrap at Snett in '69. The car my old man was spannering on fell off at the hairpin on lap 1. Yet another problem with the 'seat to steering wheel interface'.
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Andrew ,are you talking about the race when Mike Berman supprised everyone with his performance with the Berpop? I have photos somewhere of most of the cars in that race. Lord knows where but I will have a look .If my memory serves me well ,was,nt Doc,s car yellow.
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4 Dec 2006, 18:21
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Well, now I'm confused, since I always thought that Merfield's 'Fraud' Cortina had a 289 in it. I've just looked at my programme for the 1966 AMOC St John Horsfall meeting in which Merfield was entered with this car, and it says 4727cc; I'm pretty certain that Coventry Climax didn't build a V8 of that size! Are we talking about the same car?
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