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14 Mar 2007, 21:40
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The going rate?
I emailed some images I took at Rockingham BTCC Media day to a company that produced the press release for one of the race teams. I was not confiedent that they would be interested, figuring theymay have got some images lined up. They did return my email & while I was complimented on the shots that I presented, the next line read!:
In regard to images, would we have to pay if we wanted to use them? As we
get a lot from BTCC.net for free?
I resisted offering them for free, but did suggest a very 'modest' fee, but alas no return email with confirmation of a sale!
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14 Mar 2007, 23:00
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#122
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got any shots on line from the media day?
i ended up getting ill and couldnt go  was looking forward to the track rides especially
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14 Mar 2007, 23:18
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Most of what I took I'm not posting online just yet, as some I have submiited for publication elsewhere.
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15 Mar 2007, 08:54
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PM ss_collins, he has quite a few and may be willing to show some.
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15 Mar 2007, 22:40
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thanks guys
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17 Mar 2007, 18:47
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regarding people getting a start from pics off of here - yes I know its happened as Mike and Gav know!
but theres always a need for a good snapper - for example we are really short on shots from US ovals (excluding the big series) - Russian and Chinese motorsport? nowt - Japan - lots of snappers but only 2 or 3 who sell to the UK.... plenty of scope...
A few years ago I competed at an event at Lydden and there were NO snappers there. I'd certainly have bought some prints. Recently MN and Full Throttle ran stories on the 1400 challenge - pics were a pig to come by. The only snapper who shoots at North Weald (on 7oaks days) refuses to sell to the press and tends to only shoot 7oaks members. So theres a potential market. I urge many of you to give up on the biggies which are almost over photographed and look elsewhere, sprints, hillclimbs, clubbies etc even grass autotests... If there had been an established snapper at Snetterton when the DBR9 rolled out Mike would still be flipping burgers I suspect but he was there covering something no-one else bothered with now he has a shiny new job.
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17 Mar 2007, 19:29
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Absolutely true. As my boss says there's not a lot of talent involved in motorsport photography any more, but a bit of luck can go a long way...
I hope he didn't mean me specifically there!
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18 Mar 2007, 08:33
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Originally Posted by ss_collins
Heres another question then - books, commission shots and archive shots?
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I have quite a number of shots that would now be considered archive (does that mean I am old!) taken 20 -30 years ago. While being far from pro standard they do attract interest from time to time from historic magazines, club mags and the both the original owner/driver and the new owner looking to document the history of a car or maybe sell it.
I don't always charge, but have done if someone wants the image rescanned, will publish the picture or is an agent trying to sell a car and has ripped an image from the web!
The amount I get varys between £5 to £35 plus I aways ask for a free copy of the book or magazine. I would not deny that vanity plays a part, having my name in a mag or book is also a factor.
I have also given various web sites access as I think it is important to document these cars with period shots if possible.
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19 Mar 2007, 13:56
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A few years ago I competed at an event at Lydden and there were NO snappers there. I'd certainly have bought some prints.
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I'll be there snapping for quite a few this year... But I'm often not exactly crowded by the competition so point made.
Roll on the 7th April!
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19 Mar 2007, 18:05
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If there had been an established snapper at Snetterton when the DBR9 rolled out Mike would still be flipping burgers I suspect but he was there covering something no-one else bothered with now he has a shiny new job.
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A lot of hard work and plenty of miles went in between shooting the AM and getting the new job, but we get the point.
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19 Mar 2007, 18:06
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But it was significant foot in the door.
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20 Mar 2007, 13:33
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look elsewhere, sprints, hillclimbs, clubbies etc even grass autotests .
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Are there still not licensing considerations that might effect these events?
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21 Mar 2007, 13:50
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not so much no.
If you speak to the 7oaks and DMC press officer I'm sure she will accomodate those who want to snap at an event (but will prob want free use for club promotion).
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