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2 Aug 2009, 19:13
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2010 IndyCar Schedule
Well, here is the 2010 IndyCar schedule. This was announced this weekend at Kentucky. I just want to say I am very disappointed in this schedule. We lose ovals and gain a couple road courses, not to mention one more out of country, Terrible! We have no Richmond, Milwaukee, Michigan, Las Vegas, Phoenix, New Hampshire...  And we only get 17 races again. Horrible!
Here is the schedule..
Date / Track (Venue) / Track Type
3-14-10 / Brazil / Road Course TBA
3-28-10 / Streets of St. Petersburg, Florida / 1.8 Mile Street Course
4-11-10 / Barber Motorsports Park / 2.38 Mile Road Course
4-18-10 / Streets of Long Beach, California / 1.968 Mile Street Course
5-1-10 / Kansas Speedway / 1.5 Mile Oval
5-30-10 / Indianapolis Motor Speedway / 2.5 Mile Oval
6-12-10 / Texas Motor Speedway / 1.5 Mile Oval - Night Race
6-20-10 / Iowa Speedway / .875 Mile Oval
7-4-10 / Watkins Glen International / 3.37 Mile Road Course
7-18-10 / Streets of Toronto / 1.721 Mile Street Course
7-25-10 / Edmonton Centre City Airport, Alberta / 1.973 Mile Airport Course
8-8-10 / Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course / 2.258 Mile Road Course
8-22-10 / Infineon Raceway / 2.245 Mile Road Course
8-28-10 / Chicagoland Speedway / 1.5 Mile Oval
9-4-10 or 9-5-10 (Labor Day Weekend) / Kentucky Speedway / 1.5 Mile Oval - Night Race
9-18-10 / Twin Ring Motegi, Japan / 1.5 Mile Oval
10-2-10 / Homstead-Miami Speedway / 1.5 Mile Oval
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2 Aug 2009, 19:38
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Yep, good balance between ovals(with different shapes), road and street course.
A part of the good ol' Indycar is back.
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2 Aug 2009, 21:37
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State Fair vs. World Stage
That's what I'll call this, and I realize the concept is not a profound one from posts I have read by devotees of U.S. open wheel racing who have been much more attentive during the last 25 years than have I.
I thought the original concept of the IRL's formation was the creation of an oval track series which was more accessable to American drivers, presumably in American built chassis with American built engines. On the grand scale, I don't think that floated too many people's (Billy) Boat.
No need to rehash all of the myriad political, technical and financial upheavals that have occurred in the interim...the face of today's IRL is completely international, and most from the early days are back at the homestead flying a Kite.
If you can sell 100,000 tickets to State Fair attendees, or to fans who make the journey to their local 3/4 mile bullring, then I guess you're on a road to success. That's what potential sponsors and television executives would think, too.
Wait until you see what kind of buzz will be created as the first race on the 2010 schedule approaches. Even without their hometown heroes to cheer for, Brazilians will propell this event onto the world stage with their enthusiasm for motor racing and their day in the sun. I wrenched at a couple of Formula Ford races in Venezuela long ago, you would have thought it was the F1 circus coming to town from the local reaction to the event and the chance to cheer on their loca drivers. Think Ferrari fans at Monza.
So I say, let the Series continue to evolve in the direction it is headed: an international challenge that will likely never supplant F1, but will augment its appeal by the marked differences that will continue to exist between the two series. The huge State Fair that is Indianapolis will always be the centerpiece, and competitive oval racing at appropriate venues will always be welcomed by the American motor racing fan. And the Japanese motor racing fan. And hopefully everyone in between, along with the corporate sponsors who jump at the chance to participate in the international appeal.
I'm no soccer [football] fan, but lately I hear that the U.S. team is generating national and international attention by becoming competitive on the world stage. I don't think their recent success was borne from American kids growing up as they learned to play American style soccer, and waving the flag as they gave those foreigners the what-for. I think they adopted the style of the international game, and coopted some of the world's best talent, to become the emerging force that they now represent. Global market, indeed.
Road course racing is the style that most international fans have grown up on: true in large part for most of the current IRL driver lineup. It is the most demanding test for their skill, as it is for the designers and engineers who take up the challenge.
So long as the expenditures for staging international events does not outstrip the revenue, I say let it grow. There's a lovely little track not too far from Watkins Glen, in the heart of one of North America's most beautiful cities, and steeped in the tradition of world class motor racing. Apparently F1 doesn't consider L'Ille de Notre Dame as a suitable place to set up the circus. I say it's a great road course and a short step to another entance onto the world stage for the IRL. We shall see if Alabama generates the same attention, or draws the same throngs of local fans to support their hometown heroes. I don't think Paul Tracy drinks Mountain Dew...
Whatever you wash it down with, this is not a corn dogs vs. quiche argument. It's about cooking up a menu that feeds the appetite of all motor racing fans: keep giving them a little taste of the kind of racing we saw last night at Kentucky, and they will come to the table. So will the dollars, and the euros, and the yen.
They don't have state sales tax in New Hampshire, but they don't have too many greenbacks to count there either. And I doubt they can make change for a Euro, even if you're just headed to the State Fair to grab a corn dog and watch the pickup truck race.
All-American is great. It's just not for the future of the IRL. Ours is just one of the many flags of competiton to wave: take the racing anywhere there are fans hungry for it, and drop the one we all share. Green.
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2 Aug 2009, 22:41
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Motegi in late September, should've come to the Gold Coast aswell - especially with 2 winning Australians & a New Zealand champion who was born there in the series
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2 Aug 2009, 22:47
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Without question, so long as the dollars would work.
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2 Aug 2009, 23:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanicaFan
Well, here is the 2010 IndyCar schedule. This was announced this weekend at Kentucky. I just want to say I am very disappointed in this schedule. We lose ovals and gain a couple road courses, not to mention one more out of country, Terrible! We have no Richmond, Milwaukee, Michigan, Las Vegas, Phoenix, New Hampshire...  And we only get 17 races again. Horrible!
Here is the schedule..
Date / Track (Venue) / Track Type
3-14-10 / Brazil / Road Course TBA
3-28-10 / Streets of St. Petersburg, Florida / 1.8 Mile Street Course
4-11-10 / Barber Motorsports Park / 2.38 Mile Road Course
4-18-10 / Streets of Long Beach, California / 1.968 Mile Street Course
5-1-10 / Kansas Speedway / 1.5 Mile Oval
5-30-10 / Indianapolis Motor Speedway / 2.5 Mile Oval
6-12-10 / Texas Motor Speedway / 1.5 Mile Oval - Night Race
6-20-10 / Iowa Speedway / .875 Mile Oval
7-4-10 / Watkins Glen International / 3.37 Mile Road Course
7-18-10 / Streets of Toronto / 1.721 Mile Street Course
7-25-10 / Edmonton Centre City Airport, Alberta / 1.973 Mile Airport Course
8-8-10 / Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course / 2.258 Mile Road Course
8-22-10 / Infineon Raceway / 2.245 Mile Road Course
8-28-10 / Chicagoland Speedway / 1.5 Mile Oval
9-4-10 or 9-5-10 (Labor Day Weekend) / Kentucky Speedway / 1.5 Mile Oval - Night Race
9-18-10 / Twin Ring Motegi, Japan / 1.5 Mile Oval
10-2-10 / Homstead-Miami Speedway / 1.5 Mile Oval
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The only reason you don't like it is because your Queen Danica just has more places to suck at now.
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3 Aug 2009, 04:22
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No, you are wrong Matt. First off Danica can race at any track, that has nothing to do with it. I just dont like it. How can anyone like it ? We were first told at least 18 races, now again, you only have 17 and you lose 2 great ovals and pick up another out of country race. This is not good.
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3 Aug 2009, 05:53
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I'd like to know why it's not good.
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3 Aug 2009, 06:20
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Originally Posted by Matt
I'd like to know why it's not good.
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For me, too many good tracks are missing (Loudon, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Road America, Portland, Cleveland, Laguna Seca) and a few that adds little or shouldn't be on there (Sonoma, Texas, Barber). Brazil may or may not work, depending on where they go. Interlagos would work, but there's already F1 there so I don't see what IndyCar have to offer. Too bad they tore up Jaceparagua...
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3 Aug 2009, 06:32
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Originally Posted by Matt
I'd like to know why it's not good.
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Ive already explained why its not good twice... What is hard to understand ??
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3 Aug 2009, 06:36
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Hey Jimmy,
Agreed on Phoenix, Road America, Cleveland and Laguna. The IRL and Brazil will make Brazil work, they will find a good way to go.
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3 Aug 2009, 06:43
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Ive already explained why its not good twice... What is hard to understand ??
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Your massive bias.
Last I remember, NHIS sucked for the IRL.
I also see nothing wrong with going out of the country. The old Indycar did it, so why can't the new one?
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3 Aug 2009, 06:49
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Its too far away to go to Surfers and not too far to go to Japan - Go figure!
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3 Aug 2009, 07:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
Your massive bias.
Last I remember, NHIS sucked for the IRL.
I also see nothing wrong with going out of the country. The old Indycar did it, so why can't the new one?
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From what old CART races I've seen NH looked pretty good. But then I've always been a sucker for short ovals. The reasons for going to Brazil is entirely valid, I only questioned how much it will interest me. Kind of like F1 at the Nürburgring. Good enough, but doesn't really add anything. Surfers Paradise, however, did.
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3 Aug 2009, 13:10
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Its not a great schedule, too many 1.5 mile ovals IMO. They really need to put either the Milwaukee Mile or Road America back on and MIS. Not sure why Surfer's couldn't be accomodated either, once you're on a fly away leg, the costs wouldn't increase all that much to add a second stop, especially for what has been such a popular race
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