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Old 19 Jan 2010, 18:34   #1
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Argentinian Turismo Carretera

A question for our Argentinian members, though not about TC2000.

I just stumbled across the Turismo Carretera website, and I am a bit at loss, what all those different sub-championships are.

There's the regular Tourismo Carretera-championship, and then there's a championship called Mouras, which I supposse means Street Races, and one called Pista, which I supposse means regular race track, but then there's also a Pistas Mouras championship. Now what's the difference between that one and the regular Turismo Carretera championship?
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Old 19 Jan 2010, 19:48   #2
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Aren't that support series? In NASCAR there's Sprint Cup (highest level), Nationwide (2nd level) and Truck series (3rd level).

See results at La Plata:
TC: http://www.actc.org.ar/php/resultado...000000107&tc=0 (49 cars on the grid!!!)
TC Pista: http://www.actc.org.ar/php/resultado...000000107&tc=1
TC Mouras: http://www.actc.org.ar/php/resultado...000000029&tc=2
TC Mouras Pista: http://www.actc.org.ar/php/resultado...000000029&tc=3

TC is fastest, TC Mouras Pista slowest.

Cars look even worse as Daytona Prototypes but grids are big and racing is good.

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yeah .. cars are ugly but I don't know why .. I find them so cool for year 2010
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yeah .. cars are ugly but I don't know why .. I find them so cool for year 2010
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Cars look even worse as Daytona Prototypes but grids are big and racing is good.
Heh, the Grand Am discussion over at the sportscar board was why I looked them up...
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I would hardly describe TCs are "touring cars". They are prototypes woth 1970s road car lookalike bodies. I find them very ugly, but it's the most popular series of the country.

The TC Pista is the support series to the TC (like the Nascar Nationwide Series). The TC Mouras and TC Pista Mouras (the latter started in 2009) only race at the Gálvez (Buenos Aires city) and circuits in the Buenos Aires province (Olavarría, 9 de Julio, La Plata, etc.).
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What are the differences between the cars? From the photos I have seen they look the same. Or do they have same chassis + body but different engine power?
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All four traditional cars in Turismo Carretera (Ford Falcon, Chevrolet Chevy, Dodge, Torino) could be identified specially if they're seen at the side, specially watching the rear of the car and the inclination of rear windows: the Falcons have the shortest tails, the Dodge have the longest ones, the Chevy have it quite inclined, and these of the Torinos are also long but with rounded edges. All cars are now built as silhouettes with only the rooftop and engine block (only at Ford and Chevy cases) from the original car. Torinos and Dodges are using Cherokee engines.
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I mean what are the differences between the cars of TC, TC Pista, TC Mouras and TC Pista Mouras. So for example is the Ford TC car the same as the Ford TC Mouras car?
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Main diferences among Turismo Carretera classes are on technical regulations, chassis are generally the same. TC Pista has different gearboxes, engine tunings and carburators than main Turismo Carretera, in order to run slightly slower than the main series, and so on.
It's normal to see old Turismo Carretera cars running at TC Pista, adjusted to the support series regulations.
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What do these cars cost?
What budget is needed for a season?
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According to this link, a budget from U$S 250K to 400K is necessary to race a car for a complete season.
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According to this link, a budget from U$S 250K to 400K is necessary to race a car for a complete season.
Not cheap...
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Actually I would've expected higher budgets. It's a 16 race season after all and huge fields normally make for big repair bills...
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Are there any Turismo Carretera season review DVDs available? Or even VHS tapes, for that matter.

As for the cars, they might not be pretty, but they do have a rather gritty old school-look to them that I just love.
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