1985 DTM - rare footage to discuss

[Jesper OH]

Originally Posted by KA

There was a mention of this early in the Group A Volvo thread- apparently it was built in-house by Kissling and Heinz-Friedrich Peil, and was very much a private effort- they apparently used a 4-door shell because they had trouble getting a 2-door...
http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/show...=105300&page=2
Must admit I'm curious about the homologation question though- as DPM/DTM adapted the Group A rulebook a bit (weight limits etc) did it run under some kind of dispensation, or was the 4-door an option on the homologation papers? Did the Kissling car ever do the German ETC rounds?

Come to think about it, I'm not sure that a 2-door 240 was in production much beyond the early 1980s. It was a bit weird that when Volvo was racing the 2-door 240 during the 1980s, all most all road going 240s were 4-doors.

Jesper

[chunterer]

The 242 2-door was being marketed in 1984, as i'm sure it was in the Observers pocket guide for that year?

I always recall that there was no mention of the 240 Turbo anywhere amongst Volvo sales literature, well not in the UK at least but then we know it wasn't marketed here, but a European and USA model?

[Frank de Jong]

Originally Posted by KA

There was a mention of this early in the Group A Volvo thread- apparently it was built in-house by Kissling and Heinz-Friedrich Peil, and was very much a private effort- they apparently used a 4-door shell because they had trouble getting a 2-door...
http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/show...=105300&page=2
Must admit I'm curious about the homologation question though- as DPM/DTM adapted the Group A rulebook a bit (weight limits etc) did it run under some kind of dispensation, or was the 4-door an option on the homologation papers? Did the Kissling car ever do the German ETC rounds?

Well, in fact homologation #5020 shows the Turbo Volvo group A in 4-door form, with the 2-door ars as variant, so it's the other way round. This homologation form shows all the goodies like the spoilers, water injection... and sunroof.
In Germany, IIRC someone put a "taxi" sign on the roof of the Peil car while it was on the grid...

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by Frank de Jong

Well, in fact homologation #5020 shows the Turbo Volvo group A in 4-door form, with the 2-door ars as variant, so it's the other way round. This homologation form shows all the goodies like the spoilers, water injection... and sunroof.
In Germany, IIRC someone put a "taxi" sign on the roof of the Peil car while it was on the grid...

Thanks for that about the 4door Frank.

Hahahaha, they could only stick a taxi sign on the roof because there wasn't any Mercedes!

[RemyRS1600i]

Originally Posted by KA

Escort RS Turbos were Manfred Burkhard (HWRT) and Beate Nodes (GRAB)- IIRC the Nodes car still exists in Holland.

Thanks to this great footage, i now know that my car is the HWRT car.
I always thought it was the GRAB car, because of some old pictures that came with it.
Then it seems (and i always thought) it was one and the same car, owned by GRAB and then by HWRT.

But this footage showed there were two seperate cars, because apparantly BOTH cars raced in Siegerland.
There are some specific details at the HWRT car in the footage, which recognizes my car.

So this is the car, still existing in Holland.