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There are a lot of other factors to explain that gap: huge budget, top drivers, lots of testing done at Sebring, huge amount of experience with the 2011 R18, ...
I also agree that 2 sec is a normal gap between a factory and privateer car. That is less than the 2% difference that the ACO tolerates. |
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maybe not when they had good competition chasing, and hounding them like Peugeuts, but now I don't see them making any mistakes...
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Report about today's testing: http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...esday-testing/
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What time did Libra get ?
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This weekend won't help us in figuring out whether the balance is right. We need Toyota to show what they can do at Spa before passing judgement on the rules, the gap between privateers and works efforts is simply too big to be bridged by performance balancing (it shouldn't happen really as it would majorly discourage manufacturers). |
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They got no time as they didn't enter. Apparently they had a sponsor lined up who either has not followed through with the funds or has bailed. Either way this leaves them unable to score points in the ALMS as they would no longer qualify as a full season entry; unless they get an exemption. This would also apply to any other team who enters from Long Beach on, such as Risi for example.
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14 Mar 2012, 03:46 (Ref:3040732) | #208 | ||
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omg, factory amr vantage are too slow... even AM krohn and larbre are doing better laps than him...
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Latest changes/spelling corrections (in CAPS); #9 PC TOMY Drissi #023 GTC Dion von MOLTKE #11 GTC Kevin Estre replaces Michael Valiante #031 GTC Nicki Thiim replaces Nick Tandy #32 GTC Rene Villeneuve (no relation to JV) is third driver Also Stefan Johansson drove the #28 in practice and Jan Charouz drove the #29 so I'll assume this will stand; if I hear differently, I'll let you know! |
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14 Mar 2012, 04:09 (Ref:3040737) | #210 | |
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It's also a brand new car. And this is their first race. They've tested before, but it's still early in the week. They weren't that far off pace either. Only about 2 seconds. I'm sure they can improve.
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14 Mar 2012, 07:09 (Ref:3040766) | #211 | |
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It is also the first race for the wider Corvette, the wider Porsche and the 2012 version of the Ferrari
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14 Mar 2012, 07:32 (Ref:3040772) | #212 | |
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TBF- they're working off of cars that weren't nearly as bad as the last Vantage. The Vette team has always been good, Porsche has a solid base and Ferrari's 458 was already fast. Test pace is one thing, lets see where they stand later this week.
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Was hoping the Aston would be faster so we can get a good Corvette vs Aston battle going again...
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First post so be gentle...
There seems to be far more car classes this weekend than there was at Le Mans last year. Is this because it's a WEC/ALMS round? And are these the correct descriptions of the classes? LMP1 = Fastest prototypes racing in the WEC P1 = Fastest prototypes racing in the ALMS LMP 2 = Smaller engined prototypes racing in the WEC P2 = Smaller engined prototypes racing in the ALMS PC = Spec ALMS prototype series GT = Fastest GT cars racing in the ALMS GTEPRO = Fastest GT cars racing in the WEC GTEAM = GT teams with at least two amateur drivers racing in the WEC GTC = ALMS equivalent of GTEAM |
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LMP1 = Fastest prototypes racing in the WEC
LMP1 = The top class fighting for overall wins. Hybrids, petrol and diesel power (or a combination of hybrid and petrol or diesel), no limit on pro drivers and generally where the big manufacturers can be found. P1 = Fastest prototypes racing in the ALMS As per LMP1 above. ALMS has dropped the 'LM' prefix on all classes. LMP 2 = Smaller engined prototypes racing in the WEC LMP2 = Must have production based engines, atleast one gentleman driver and be up to current spec. P2 = Smaller engined prototypes racing in the ALMS As per LMP2 above. PC = Spec ALMS prototype series Correct. GT = Fastest GT cars racing in the ALMS GT = GTE PRO and AM mish mash in the ALMS, no restriction on number of pro drivers or car spec. GTEPRO = Fastest GT cars racing in the WEC GTE PRO = Latest and greatest GTE cars, can be current spec and can have all professional driver line-ups. GTEAM = GT teams with at least two amateur drivers racing in the WEC GTE AM = GTE teams, cars must be atleast a year old in spec (I.E 2012 car to 2011 spec) and must have atleast one gentleman driver. GTC = ALMS equivalent of GTEAM GTC = Cup spec Porsche 'challenge' class Hope this helps. |
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haha, try explain that in a sentence to a non-folower of endurance sports cars. That right there is one of the reasons why this sport is being marginalized.
Just have PROTO-pro/am/cup, and GT-pro/am/cup, and I bet more people will watch.. We shouldn't have stupid code names for the classes, have nice explanatory names for people to easily understand. Keep the differentiation in the rule book, and not in the naming. also ALMS could have called their classes the same as WEC, and differentiate them in the standings after the race. To claryfy, PROTO-PRO-LMP1 and P1, PROTO-AM LMP2 and P2, PROTO-CUP LMPC and PC, same for the GTs |
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Welcome to the forum Crooky, yes the class structure at Sebring is a bit contrived because of the ALMS and WEC are both having races at the same time at the same place. The main thing to remember is the racing will be good, so just ignore the classes and enjoy the race! |
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easier way to remember the classes, any car that has a class name that is a subset or supper-set of another car's class name is racing against that car.
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