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24 Apr 2012, 12:43
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Originally Posted by csirl
Blatant example of the pro-British bias in F1. You could guarantee that if a Ferrari driver did that, he'd be penalised.
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Just wow.
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Can we just discuss the subject at hand rather than giving it this victim mentality?
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24 Apr 2012, 13:09
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Originally Posted by Peter Mallett
Fair enough and thanks, it wasn't a critiscism.
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never thought it was
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24 Apr 2012, 13:12
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Originally Posted by werner
If we are going to be that precise: when a driver leaves the track, he should enter it again at the same position, wich was obviously far away from where he did rejoin the track. He should have put the car in reverse, try to guess where he was when he left the track and rejoin over there.
Offcourse that would be rediculous and dangerous, so just giving the place back to Rosberg would be a nice compromise.
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Indeed it would be ridiculous and dangerous - and in fact a breach of the rules which (paraphrased) state that a driver should rejoin safely in a manner which does not impede other competitors, and also that driving against the normal circuit direction isn't permitted. But hey, that's just hair splitting 
However, regarding precision: if you read the steward's decision on both of Rosberg's moves, they were *incredibly* precise in their wording. Which, as they were dealing with fact and not supposition, is exactly as it should be.
The stewards weren't asked to investigate an off-track overtake, because on review of the incident - there wasn't one.
If Hamilton had deliberately moved off the circuit, unprovoked, and overtaken Rosberg then I could understand everyone calling for his head on a platter... but he didn't, so I don't!
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24 Apr 2012, 13:26
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Originally Posted by Greem
....... if you read the steward's decision on both of Rosberg's moves, .........
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what!
ruin a good rant by the regulars?
heaven forfend!
never let the truth get in the way of a good story...
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24 Apr 2012, 13:33
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Originally Posted by csirl
Blatant example of the pro-British bias in F1. You could guarantee that if a Ferrari driver did that, he'd be penalised.
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Uhn... utterly nonsense.
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24 Apr 2012, 13:52
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I thought this guy usually posted sense?
Selby
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Think you can do better? Let's see it!
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25 Apr 2012, 04:16
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Originally Posted by Marbot
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How the hell does F1 management think it benefits their cause to pull down video clips like these. They provide them with free publicity, and greatly enrich their sport.
Greed before all else!
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25 Apr 2012, 10:42
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Originally Posted by wnut
How the hell does F1 management think it benefits their cause to pull down video clips like these. They provide them with free publicity, and greatly enrich their sport.
Greed before all else!
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Well, they did show that Rosberg did not force Alonso or Hamilton off the track. But now, you'll just have to take mine and the stewards word for that. 
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25 Apr 2012, 14:07
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Originally Posted by wnut
How the hell does F1 management think it benefits their cause to pull down video clips like these. They provide them with free publicity, and greatly enrich their sport.
Greed before all else!
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It's because FOM doesn't understand new media, never have.
Other series not only allow fans to post copyrighted material online but post their own videos regularly. They will say it's about "protecting their intellectual property" but it's actually just petty and as you say, does very little to help the sport grow.
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25 Apr 2012, 14:23
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Originally Posted by Flavio Galtieri
It's because FOM doesn't understand new media, never have.
Other series not only allow fans to post copyrighted material online but post their own videos regularly. They will say it's about "protecting their intellectual property" but it's actually just petty and as you say, does very little to help the sport grow.
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This is not limited in anyway to F1. There are thousands of examples of this. Lets not open that can of worms thought 
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24 Jun 2012, 23:13
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Valencia 24 June 2012
Comments on stewards decisions:
Hamilton v Maldanado - Maldanado drive through
Vergne v Kovi - double penalty to Vergne 10 space grid drop
Schumacher - using DRS under yellow - no penalty.
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24 Jun 2012, 23:20
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Originally Posted by wnut
Valencia 24 June 2012
Comments on stewards decisions:
Hamilton v Maldanado - Maldanado drive through
Vergne v Kovi - double penalty to Vergne 10 space grid drop
Schumacher - using DRS under yellow - no penalty.
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That's F1 for you, these days....
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24 Jun 2012, 23:48
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There was nothing wrong with MS using the DRS under Yellows.
Although I get the point about the Vergne and Maldonado penalties matching up.
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25 Jun 2012, 02:28
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I'm actually surprised the DRS isn't disengaged if the engagement area is under yellow but if it isn't locked out and he doesn't complete the pass until clear of the yellow. The only thing I can think to make it a penalty is if there is a speed limit for yellow flag areas, ie pit lane speeds only through the area but thought it was just drive with caution and no passing.
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25 Jun 2012, 11:30
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Originally Posted by broadrun96
I'm actually surprised the DRS isn't disengaged if the engagement area is under yellow but if it isn't locked out and he doesn't complete the pass until clear of the yellow. The only thing I can think to make it a penalty is if there is a speed limit for yellow flag areas, ie pit lane speeds only through the area but thought it was just drive with caution and no passing.
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If you watch the on board from MW, MS doesn't gain any distance on MW where it is yellow even tho the DRS is open. So he technically was slowing/holding pace which is what they care about not the use of DRS per se.
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