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Originally Posted by nicanary
I don't think that a lot of today's fans care how hard the teams are working - they want action NOW NOW.
Gaming and films have resulted in a need for CGI-style constant action.
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Originally Posted by JamesH
I, for one, think the racing, as spiced up as people claim it is, is great to watch. I'm in mid 40's, so not a video game generation instant gratification sort of chap.
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Unfortunately sort of this, but I don't know that video games and CGI action movies are to blame. With NASCAR there are lots of complaints about boredom when they go a long time without safety cars and the cars get strung out, meaning no passing and "follow the leader", but the bulk of NASCAR fans are of older generations who predated the explosion of video gaming and CGI action movies. It isn't just younger gaming/Michael Bay audiences that suffer from racing ADD. Actually, from my personal experience, racing gamers aren't so interested in the instant gratification of NASCAR and instead favor road racing series like F1.
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Originally Posted by JamesH
The only thing though, which really mystifies me, is why Monaco is still on the calendar.
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I know most folks hate how it's basically impossible to race on track at Monaco, but I would imagine most of them would hate to see Monaco leave the calendar once that has (hypothetically) happened.
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Originally Posted by chillibowl
absolutely thats a huge aspect of it. but also i take issue with the idea that dominance is something that is either boring or not wanted. dominance is just the logical outcome of competitive sports and certainly a part of me thinks the philosophy behind the new tire regs are aimed at eliminating greatness (a synonym for dominance) by making everyone equal.
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Again pointing to NASCAR fans for illustration, I often see/hear fans decry perceived domination by a particular driver, going so far even to openly hate them for doing well. I never did get how their minds work here. If you have a close championship like we presently do in F1, they might then dismiss the winner as insignificant because he wasn't clearly far and away better than the other guys, but if you have a driver that tends to win a lot and has little competition then they hate him and hate the predictability. I remember all last year listening to a friend (NASCAR fan that hates road racing) making comments about "Why watch when you know Vettel is going to win?"
If a driver is clearly very good, I don't see where it's wrong for that to be reflected in race results. Some race fans out there seem to hate top talent and instead prefer mediocrity so that results are more random.
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Originally Posted by nicanary
I'd not considered the safety-car aspect as manipulative - I'm all in favour of reducing unnecessary risk. But how often have we seen it brought out when there was no real risk, when the crashed/broken down car was off-line and simply not in the way? Nice way to bring the leader back to the pack! But it's not fair.
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I don't see safety cars as a plague in F1. Many races never see it at all, and if it gets brought out it might only be that one time. Some other series (NASCAR) were known for seeing the "pace" car quite often, and that was perceived by both drivers and fans alike as deliberate manipulation. If F1 started throwing out the safety car every fifteen or twenty laps, then I'd start to cry "shenanigans".
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Originally Posted by nicanary
Interesting point about the car/driver fanbase ratio - I'm personally amazed that anyone has a "favourite". That's what you would expect of a 10 yr-old.
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There are seven billion people on the planet, and all of them who live in a modern nation (disregarding the Bembuachubli tribe in the Congo and that sort of thing) have favorites. They have favorite beverages, favorite foods, favorite auto manufacturers, and favorites in sports, whether it's a favorite team, favorite athlete, or favorite driver. I'd be shocked if someone didn't have a favorite driver.
Having a favorite driver isn't the same as deciding that he is fantastic and everyone else sucks. Using myself as an example, I have variying degrees of respect for basically the entire Formula One field. I'm a Hamilton fan, but openly acknowledge the talents of Alonso, Vettel, Rosberg, Raikkonen, Button, Webber, Schumacher, et cetera.
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Originally Posted by nicanary
Chillibowl - ditto for me if sprinklers are next (although tbh I think bernie was having a joke).
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I like jokes....
However, the instant someone would actually try the sprinkler thing is the instant I stop watching altogether.
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