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Old 1 May 2011, 14:16   #256
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Yeah but those are for driving like an idiot or having illegal parts on the car.

If one judge has a personal beef with a driver, then that's going to carry over into his scores.
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Old 2 May 2011, 21:51   #257
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Yeah but those are for driving like an idiot or having illegal parts on the car.

If one judge has a personal beef with a driver, then that's going to carry over into his scores.
If one Marshall has personal beef with a driver or team then that's going to carry to the race results. Ferrari international assistance?

Driving like an idiot? I havent seen anybody pulled in for tailgating? Again it is a personal judgement made by a professional team of people. A good example would be Hamilton being penalised for making multiple moves when defending but no action being taken for Vettel making much more aggressive moves off of the start.

Im not trying to debate the validity of the above examples but you can at least appreciate that there is a judgement call to be made by somebody with professional responsibility to apply the rules fairly to all parties?

Besides I cannot imagine that a bent judge would be able to maintain his position for very long as its very obvious which driver was the winner.

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The biggest reason to promote drifting though is because it is a great grass roots entrance into motorsport. I see a huge amount of similarity between drifting today and the photos of motorsport back in the 60s - 80s. People tinkering away in their sheds and spare time coming up with all kinds of different innovations and then pushing their creations to the limit on the weekend surrounded by like minded individuals.

Traditional motorsport could learn a huge amount from drifting currently. Motorsport today has become very conservative, very elitist (god I never thought id use that word) and very, very expensive. I would love to get into circuit racing but ultimately I stand little chance of getting to a high level because I wasn't karting before I was walking and that is what is wrong with most motorsport today.
What about this half of my post?
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Yeah but it's still judged.
Most sports are adjudicated if not judged, referees, umpires, judges etc. How many times have footballers with a reputation been sent off for infractions that would have earned other players a yellow card? Even sanctioned motor races are judged and marshaled. Subjectivity is part and parcel of most sports or competitions.

I can't stand drifting per se, but that is largely due to the attached stigma, but I have the utmost respect for those who take part professionally, I only wish the kids who tried to replicate the pro's had a modicum of sense and took themselves to a track so they could be trained.
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I haven't read any of the responses but I firmly say "NO."
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Drifting

Been reading through this thread and cant help but laugh, so many *****es!
I race an ex BTCC focus in the tin tops and I love the competitive nature of it. I also run a 680bhp 2jz powered 200sx that I love to drift, and when your 'twining' with a driver of a similar standard there is nothing more intense than being locked over on full chat 6 inches from your competitor.
I'd say that they are both forms of motorsport just in their own right they both share the common goal of producing a winner whether by points, knockout stages or by an outright win.
I'm also pretty sure that most on here have never been in a drift car or to a competition so are definitely lacking the credentials to put it down.
I love them both and if I'm honest they actually compliment each other, who is the better driver? the man with one skill or two?
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WHY IS THIS THREAD STILL GOING ON.
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