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Old 19 Jan 2015, 19:49 (Ref:3494193)   #3301
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Simply perfect indeed!



With full livery on, I truly think this is the best looking LMP in quite a few years - even better than R-One, (newer) 908 and some of the later Lolas
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Old 19 Jan 2015, 19:58 (Ref:3494194)   #3302
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Old 19 Jan 2015, 20:11 (Ref:3494202)   #3303
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People were actually calling this car ugly... lol
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Old 19 Jan 2015, 20:12 (Ref:3494203)   #3304
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And look, on the Sebring poster they put the beautiful 04 to block some of the fugly stock car DP



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Old 19 Jan 2015, 20:13 (Ref:3494204)   #3305
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I suspect the HPD would look good with most liveries, but ESM's follows the lines around the cockpit really well.
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Old 19 Jan 2015, 21:52 (Ref:3494244)   #3306
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Yeah it was always gonna fit pretty much everything but this looks just as good as in the (more green) initial ESM-themed renderings posted ages ago, which never happens. Even I didn't believe in it when I saw the chassis bare, as good as it was already. Great job gang.

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Old 19 Jan 2015, 21:57 (Ref:3494247)   #3307
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One of the reasons this car looks so good is the constant angle from the nose right up to the top of the screen. Most of the other closed top cars have a distinct change of angle from bodywork to glass (polycarbonate, whatever).
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One of the reasons this car looks so good is the constant angle from the nose right up to the top of the screen. Most of the other closed top cars have a distinct change of angle from bodywork to glass (polycarbonate, whatever).
+1

Also think that the likeness factor comes from windows itself that seem larger than in Oak and other coupes, more like something you would've seen in old Lola. Of course, being covered mostly in black and the angle you mentioned also helps to blend it all together

Will be interesting to see what they'll do with Patron for LM, back to 2010 Highcroft ways or something else? Or will they be able to just keep it there like Rebellion & Arctic Velvet. Though that is relatively obscure in relation to something that says TEQUILA in it Rebellion did shave AV off for Bahrain though so maybe ACO noticed it only then...
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Old 19 Jan 2015, 22:12 (Ref:3494261)   #3309
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As much as I like ESM I have to say that livery is not elegant at all.
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Old 19 Jan 2015, 22:45 (Ref:3494278)   #3310
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Will be interesting to see what they'll do with Patron for LM, back to 2010 Highcroft ways or something else? Or will they be able to just keep it there like Rebellion & Arctic Velvet. Though that is relatively obscure in relation to something that says TEQUILA in it Rebellion did shave AV off for Bahrain though so maybe ACO noticed it only then...
Rebellion didn't have Arctic Velvet at Le Mans.
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Old 19 Jan 2015, 23:34 (Ref:3494296)   #3312
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I think that they didn't put the word "Vodka" on there to keep the sponsor on the car. They did completely remove the Arctic Velvet sponsorship in Bahrain due to that country's restrictions on hard liquor advertizing.
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I think that they didn't put the word "Vodka" on there to keep the sponsor on the car. They did completely remove the Arctic Velvet sponsorship in Bahrain due to that country's restrictions on hard liquor advertizing.
IIRC in no point during the season did it actually say "Vodka" next to AV anyway. And while Bahrain is strict for sure, so is France so I don't know how they got away with it - as I said maybe ACO just didn't take notice, it's not like it was naked girls on the side like at N24

Anyhow, if one would suggest that removing that "alcoholic word" like whiskey or whatever from the text would somehow make it more okay, ESM could surely just enter the car as it is for LM and remove the word Tequila. Call it "Patron ESM". Now, you probably ask "well why didn't Highcroft do that" - I guess they just had the primary charity deal with Malaria No More? Not sure if Patron wanted global presence at that stage of the game anyway

Extreme Speed Motorsports has lately been rebranded as "Tequila Patron ESM", so how the title shows up on ACO entry lists for Le Mans should tell some of the story already.
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Old 20 Jan 2015, 00:27 (Ref:3494307)   #3314
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Not to derail this thread all to hell, there were naked women illustrated on a Porsche 911 GT2 car at LM in '98. Granted, this is over 15 years on and nowadays it'd be almost certain that the owner of that car if he showed up with that color scheme today, he'd be told to go back and make it "PG" rated just as how the WWE has been since July of 2008.

I don't know how he'd got away with that one back in '98, but that's the reverse of what would happen in North America, where the hard liquor ad would be allowed to stay aside from a couple of southeastern US states, but the nude women would have to be made PG rated for sure.
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At least you still get the 'nudie' cars at the Nurburgring
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Yeah don't think the relatively mild cartoon images of that Haberthur entry, or whatever the team was called, still quite match the Bimmer here

Anyhow, finalized ARX-04b frontal view

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IMO, the car looks better with the gloss black/lime green on it than just bare carbon.
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Old 20 Jan 2015, 02:04 (Ref:3494331)   #3318
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Black has a slimming effect, thats probably why the cockpit doesnt look so bad. Still dont like how high up the noses are on these new cars. Equal height with the fenders just throws off the proportions. Looks like the roof is sitting atop the car instead of in it.
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Extreme Speed Motorsports has lately been rebranded as "Tequila Patron ESM", so how the title shows up on ACO entry lists for Le Mans should tell some of the story already.
Team Bruichladdich were allowed to race with their name, so they should be fine.

Ferrari never had to blank out their team name in programmes or whatever when they were still sponsored by Marlboro, either.
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Old 20 Jan 2015, 16:19 (Ref:3494500)   #3320
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Glad that ESM's HPD ARX-04b was wrapped on that psychedelic Patron livery! Damn, so sexy looking!
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Bruichladdich released a line of bottled water in order to keep the name on the side of the car at Le Mans. Maybe Patron Cactus Vitamin water?
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However they do it I hope they can sort out some workaround. I'd be gutted not to see that livery at Le Mans.
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Team Bruichladdich were allowed to race with their name, so they should be fine.

Ferrari never had to blank out their team name in programmes or whatever when they were still sponsored by Marlboro, either.
Ferrari is still being sponsored by Marlboro. That's why the Scuderia Ferrari logo still has a lot of white in it and basicly looks like the bottom left quarter of the Marlboro logo.

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However they do it I hope they can sort out some workaround. I'd be gutted not to see that livery at Le Mans.
Even if they'd have to change the name and titles to something else, there's no need to change the livery really.
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Even if they'd have to change the name and titles to something else, there's no need to change the livery really.
At the bare minimum, this would do (I think?):



Although ESM will probably be a bit kinder than that. I was looking forard to seeing the "Te___a Pa__n" banner down the side of car as well
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