US Grand Prix- Austin (USA) - Page 15

NeilB · 19 Jul 2010, 21:13 (Ref:2729313)

You can see why people go for a GP over an event like the World Cup or Olympics due to the value for money it offers compared to these, depending on it's location and calendar date i.e. Istanbul would possibly have better attendance's if it was held in August, it it was originally scheduled. so it could cash in on tourists putting the GP as part of a two week break.

Purist · 20 Jul 2010, 17:51 (Ref:2729731)

No, not really. A new GP circuit is supposed to be particularly suited to F1, so it may not work well for other series, though they don't tend to work terribly well for F1 anyway.

Disregarding that matter though, as a rather minor issue on the whole, the new GP circuits tend to charge so much to other users (trying to recoup the costs of construction, not to mention the annual sanction fee for F1) that virtually nobody but F1 uses them. They effectively become minimal-use, white elephants.

World Cup or Olympic venues can be used for their designated event types after the Olympics/World Cup are long over. So, not only are they built for an event that gets a bigger TV audience than F1, but they also are much more viable for use for other events afterward.

Also, a city/country does not necessarily have to build all-new facilities for the Olympics or World Cup. London will build a new aquatic center and ceremonial stadium, but they will also utilize Wembley and Wimbledon.

Good Times · 21 Jul 2010, 15:32 (Ref:2730200)

Spotted on local Austin Tv over the weekend, a report that stated that state officials had traveled to Silverstone to check the facilities etc & came back with a positive verdict.
Also stated was the news that the track location will be revealed this week.

As it happens there was news a few weeks ago that a horse race track in that area was to close in August. ( Manor Downs ).

My bet is this will be the location, 9 miles east of Austin, in Manor,Tx

**bjohnsonsmith** · 21 Jul 2010, 15:53 (Ref:2730210)

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Originally Posted by Purist

No, not really. A new GP circuit is supposed to be particularly suited to F1, so it may not work well for other series, though they don't tend to work terribly well for F1 anyway.

Disregarding that matter though, as a rather minor issue on the whole, the new GP circuits tend to charge so much to other users (trying to recoup the costs of construction, not to mention the annual sanction fee for F1) that virtually nobody but F1 uses them. They effectively become minimal-use, white elephants.

In Tilke's defence his tracks are good for TC racing, then again that's what he drives around Nordschleife.

You're dead right about those tracks recouping their costs, they are hardly going to attract other series.

duke_toaster · 27 Jul 2010, 11:32 (Ref:2733931)

http://www.statesman.com/business/fu...Trk=RTR_781143

We have a site confirmed.

Rgms320 · 27 Jul 2010, 11:49 (Ref:2733937)

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Originally Posted by duke_toaster

http://www.statesman.com/business/fu...Trk=RTR_781143

We have a site confirmed.

Excellent news!

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"Promoters hope to have permits in place from the city and county to start grading work on the site in December and remain confident they can have a track open in time."

From December '10 to the scheduled FIA track inspection in December '11... for those who know about track construction, is one year enough time?

I guess a lot of folks are going to have to add "Honey, we'll all have a bowl of chili and the chicken fried steak, and keep them long necks comin'" to their French-English dictionaries.

I Rosputnik · 27 Jul 2010, 17:06 (Ref:2734066)

Ignoring the fact it's Tikle doing the track, I'm happy they're building a purpose built track for F1.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 27 Jul 2010, 18:34 (Ref:2734117)

What other series are going to be hosted there, they've got to make the money back somehow and they won't do it with one GP year?

Matt · 27 Jul 2010, 18:54 (Ref:2734123)

Possibly NASCAR?

ptclaus98 · 27 Jul 2010, 18:57 (Ref:2734125)

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Originally Posted by Rgms320

Excellent news!

From December '10 to the scheduled FIA track inspection in December '11... for those who know about track construction, is one year enough time?

I guess a lot of folks are going to have to add "Honey, we'll all have a bowl of chili and the chicken fried steak, and keep them long necks comin'" to their French-English dictionaries.

Chili and country fried steak? I feel bad for the people that eat with you.

Brisket and ribs with a side of smoked sausage, please. Plus cole slaw and baked potatoes.

ptclaus98 · 27 Jul 2010, 18:59 (Ref:2734126)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

What other series are going to be hosted there, they've got to make the money back somehow and they won't do it with one GP year?

ALMS, WSBK, AMA SBK, Grand Am probably.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 27 Jul 2010, 19:53 (Ref:2734161)

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Originally Posted by ptclaus98

ALMS, WSBK, AMA SBK, Grand Am probably.

That's excellent.

Stuart Hill · 27 Jul 2010, 19:53 (Ref:2734163)

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Originally Posted by ptclaus98

Chili and country fried steak? I feel bad for the people that eat with you.

Brisket and ribs with a side of smoked sausage, please. Plus cole slaw and baked potatoes.

sorry, but country/chicken fried steak is god's food.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 27 Jul 2010, 19:58 (Ref:2734167)

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Originally Posted by Stuart Hill

sorry, but country/chicken fried steak is god's food.

I thought it was Ambrosia.

ptclaus98 · 27 Jul 2010, 22:13 (Ref:2734260)

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Originally Posted by Stuart Hill

sorry, but country/chicken fried steak is god's food.

You sir, are surely a man who's never had good BBQ.

JeremySmith · 28 Jul 2010, 00:45 (Ref:2734347)

This is indeed going to happen....When I heard on NPR (National Public Radio) our version of the BBC that this was on, now I believe it, God bless America...

**bjohnsonsmith** · 28 Jul 2010, 00:57 (Ref:2734353)

How long's the contract for?

JeremySmith · 28 Jul 2010, 01:15 (Ref:2734360)

10 years..

mountainstar · 28 Jul 2010, 01:23 (Ref:2734364)

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Originally Posted by ptclaus98

Brisket and ribs with a side of smoked sausage, please. Plus cole slaw and baked potatoes.

YA RLY.

Or some good tex mex with fresh tortillas.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 28 Jul 2010, 01:24 (Ref:2734366)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

10 years..

That's great. I think Austin will pull this off, the economic situation isn't great now but by 2012 things should start to pick up.

JeremySmith · 28 Jul 2010, 01:38 (Ref:2734372)

This will happen I am so sure now about this...

Birddog07 · 28 Jul 2010, 03:23 (Ref:2734397)

Location sounds good, to bad we already know the track is going to boring.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 28 Jul 2010, 03:29 (Ref:2734399)

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Originally Posted by Birddog07

Location sounds good, to bad we already know the track is going to boring.

They aren't used to Tilkedromes in the US, so it will be interesting to see what other series make of it.

NASCAR on a Tilkedrome.

Purist · 28 Jul 2010, 04:17 (Ref:2734406)

The one saving grace here could be what Tilke produced with his design for Atlanta Motorsports Park. It's not long enough for F1 to consider, but it does show the guy can actually do a pretty good job. I just hope the place gets finished so we can see what the final product looks like in person, or on YouTube.

That site there near Austin is certainly large enough to build something of the scale of Road America, and still have room for the support facilities.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 28 Jul 2010, 04:47 (Ref:2734410)

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Originally Posted by Purist

The one saving grace here could be what Tilke produced with his design for Atlanta Motorsports Park. It's not long enough for F1 to consider, but it does show the guy can actually do a pretty good job. I just hope the place gets finished so we can see what the final product looks like in person, or on YouTube.

That site there near Austin is certainly large enough to build something of the scale of Road America, and still have room for the support facilities.

What sort of cars race at Atlanta Motorsports Park?

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