2011 Bathurst 12 Hour

[DAVID PATERSON]

Originally Posted by B24

Just on the speed difference debate. This has been covered quite a few times over the years with the same result. Are other people aware of this?
Previously I raised the example of the Wakefield Park 300 and will raise it again. The speed difference is up to 20seconds a lap over a 2.2km track. This year it rained heavily throughout the race, there were infact first timers in the race as well as seasoned drivers. How many accidents? Zero to my knowledge.
Over the last 4 years. I can confidently say less than two. Im sure you will find similar results at the Qld 500 held by the Porsche Club.
So it does work hear right in our own back yard. Can the same happen at B12.
My opinion is 'its in the drivers hands '.

Wakefield Park is very slow and very safe, with heaps of runoff and excellent visibilty.......................Bathurst is something esle!

[cavvy]

Interesting spread of cars, categories, entrants
&
30 second + difference in lap times.

Is there really a problem for the 12 hour or is it really just GT v production cars & boasting rights. Get out there & race.

http://www.24hdubai.com/default.asp?page=67&newsID=665

3 x Aus entries in Class A3T.

[Sheep Stations]

My last word on the changeover - I feel sorry for the organiser. He is a good bloke and cant help but feel he has been sold a pup. At least in year 1... If it wasnt for the Audi Joest Entries, the GT3 grid would be thin.

My last comment too...the organiser is a really good bloke and generally is very sharp. But he's the one who made a few dud calls in the transition to a combined race, not the least being the initial 'partnership' with a particular sports car category. No doubt there would have been many more GT entries if competitors weren't held to ransom (no start at Bathurst without paid-up 2011 season entry for the other mob)and the lack of timely and in many cases any communication on technical and eligibility requests from overseas competitors.

By the time he realised he was being white-anted it was too late for many entries. It is a miracle he has got the numbers he has for 2011.

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by Belly13

Any entry lists for the support classes?

Group C & Group A Historic Touring Cars:

4 Edward Singleton Holden Commodore VH C

6 Tony Sawford Holden Torana A9X C

7 Stuart Hayes Holden Torana A9X C

10 Shaun Tunny Holden Torana A9X C

13 Bob Holden Ford Escort Mk2 C

14 Greg Keam Ford Escort RS 2000 C

16 Garry Collins Holden Commodore VL A

33 Michael Roddy Jaguar XJS A

35 Carl Muller Ford Capri C

38 Wayne Clift Holden Commodore VK A

41 David Paterson Toyota Corolla Sprinter A

44 Mark Taylor Holden Commodore VL A

46 Bill Cutler BMW M3 A

50 Scott Fleming Volvo 240T A

62 Adrian Brady BMW 635 CSI A

72 Tony Pallas Jaguar XJS A

73 Jake Williams Ford Escort RS 2000 C

77 Craig Neilson Mitsubishi Starion A

96 Troy Stapleton Holden Commodore VL A

100 Robert Ingram Ford Sierra A

[alfacors]

Only one M3?

[cavvy]

Paul Stubber missing ...

[E.B]

Originally Posted by cavvy

Paul Stubber missing ...

Is this a Group N(c?) / genuine Historic class or a Biante / Touring Car 'Masters'(Sports Sedan) race

[kramer]

Originally Posted by E.B

Is this a Group N(c?) / genuine Historic class or a Biante / Touring Car 'Masters'(Sports Sedan) race

None of the above. Historic Group C and Group A touring cars.

Small entry, which is sad.



Kramer

[B24]

Hopefully the promoter will simply carry over the Dubai reg's for 2012 with a sweetner for Dubai24 entrants to come to Australia. After looking at their website,this will recoup any loss from this year if it does not go to plan.

David Patterson, the point I made has far more to do with driver attitude than the track. The track is irrelivent, its the nut behind the wheel. If you do manage to make one of the 300km races held by AASA, you will see. You have a choice this year too, Wakefield in June and Winton in December.
I still cant believe there is still an ongoing debate regarding speed differences. Baffling..

[GTRMagic]

Junior +Tinkler Late Entry

Can they win?

[6.213km]

A few more "last minute entries" would be good....

Come on Mr Heaphy.... bring out your toys and show us what you can do !

Where will the top production car finish after 12 hours.... can they crack the top ten ?

[Oldtony]

Originally Posted by 6.213km

Where will the top production car finish after 12 hours.... can they crack the top ten ?

If they do it will be on reliability and fuel economy allowing better pit strategy.
You are right 6.213, the last minute entries are starting to make the production car class interesting. Good thing.

[6.213km]

Calling all Production Car owners !

Stop whinging and get your cars to Bathurst.... IT'S BATHURST! HAVE A GO!

Lets face it, the lap time difference between an EVO and a Yaris is probably greater then that of a Mosler to an EVO....

Go on , you know you want to ! -

[Belly13]

Anyone know why the Racing Dynamics (#10) Porsche has been withdrawn from Class B?

[rich07]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Junior +Tinkler Late Entry

Can they win?

Good to hear, the more production cars in the race the better. And drivers like Steven Johnson.

Originally Posted by 6.213km

Calling all Production Car owners !

Stop whinging and get your cars to Bathurst.... IT'S BATHURST! HAVE A GO!

Lets face it, the lap time difference between an EVO and a Yaris is probably greater then that of a Mosler to an EVO....

Go on , you know you want to ! -

Couldnt agree more. Put the toys back in the pram and get on with it.

[GTRMagic]

So who is scheduled to drive the #50 Racer Industries Astra?

[Downoz]

Fuel, $5.00 per litre. for 98 octane.






http://ipraforum.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6867

[Oldtony]

Originally Posted by rich07

Couldnt agree more. Put the toys back in the pram and get on with it.

Easy to say if you don't have to pay the bills.
This is not a cheap event and it isn't a good business decision to risk going broke for very little prospect of an upside.

[racer69]

Originally Posted by Oldtony

Easy to say if you don't have to pay the bills.
This is not a cheap event and it isn't a good business decision to risk going broke for very little prospect of an upside.

Agreed, plus it is pretty late in the day to start putting something together for a 12-hour race

[Axeman444]

is it only me that wonders, given the photos published in recent articles about DJR, how Mr Tinkler can get in and out of a roll-caged race sedan during a race inspired pitstop?

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by Downoz

Fuel, $5.00 per litre. for 98 octane.






http://ipraforum.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6867

Must be a punishment for driving old RX7s. It's $2.60 for everyone else.

(It's actually $2.60 for IPRA as well, before anyone takes the above comment too seriously)

[Crash Test]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

Must be a punishment for driving old RX7s. It's $2.60 for everyone else.

Don't they still put a bit of 2-stroke oil in for good measure?

[356mal]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Junior +Tinkler Late Entry

Can they win?

question ????

to race at bathurst you must have a national licence
you cannot race on "p" plates
and to get off your "p" plates you must do 5 events
and a days flagging
and then compete in an event every 2 years
( C.A.M.S rules according to there manual )

so how does nathan tinkler have a national licence to be able to race in this event ???

[Scrut]

so how does nathan tinkler have a national licence to be able to race in this event ???[/QUOTE]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[356mal]

scrut
that may or may not be true
and I would hope it is not
if it is true cams has a lot to answer for
they have rules regarding licencing and if it turns out
you can " buy " a licence I would think that would be very interesting
from a legal point of view