USCC (leave your axe outside) - Page 163

FstrthnU · 9 Oct 2013, 12:40 (Ref:3315159)

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Originally Posted by fanta4

So, when was this announced?

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/uscc/po...or-gt-america/

Mike Hedlund already told us that we wouldn't see any current 997 GT3 Cup cars several months ago.

fanta4 · 9 Oct 2013, 13:11 (Ref:3315185)

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Originally Posted by FstrthnU

Mike Hedlund already told us that we wouldn't see any current 997 GT3 Cup cars several months ago.

Was this ever officially announced? This is the first time I have seen it "printed".

**joeb** · 9 Oct 2013, 13:29 (Ref:3315200)

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Originally Posted by fanta4

Was this ever officially announced? This is the first time I have seen it "printed".

That makes it pretty official to me.

What this means is that we won't see the extra 911's at Daytona that seem to show up every year - Leaving the door open for some teams from across the pond hopefully. I do wonder if anybody will make changes to a GT3 to make it eligible for USCC and run Daytona and Sebring only.

HORNDAWG · 9 Oct 2013, 15:27 (Ref:3315253)

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Originally Posted by Pandamasque

PC cars already tend to get in the way of GTs. Why make the problem worse?

Not so much this year in the ALMS, the switch in rubber helped a bit with that. But, yes, I agree why would they recreate that issue?!

L.P.

**joeb** · 9 Oct 2013, 17:00 (Ref:3315290)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

But, yes, I agree why would they recreate that issue?!

L.P.

Profit sharing deal with parts suppliers?

jasonjessica09 · 9 Oct 2013, 18:09 (Ref:3315314)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Not so much this year in the ALMS, the switch in rubber helped a bit with that. But, yes, I agree why would they recreate that issue?!

L.P.

Accidents can occur when the cars are the same speed or if they are going at different speeds. It makes no difference. To see DP/P2/PC/GTLM all mixed together potentially racing for overall positions in addition to class is a great thing I think.

Fogelhund · 9 Oct 2013, 18:31 (Ref:3315327)

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Originally Posted by jasonjessica09

Accidents can occur when the cars are the same speed or if they are going at different speeds. It makes no difference. To see DP/P2/PC/GTLM all mixed together potentially racing for overall positions in addition to class is a great thing I think.

If they were all equal, at all parts of the track, you would be right. But it would be near impossible for that to happen... how would you ever get a GT car to corner like a Proto? If you wanted equal lap times, the GT would be faster down the straight, and then the only way for the Proto to get by is to dive bomb in the corners...

Mike Hedlund · 9 Oct 2013, 18:57 (Ref:3315352)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

If you wanted equal lap times, the GT would be faster down the straight, and then the only way for the Proto to get by is to dive bomb in the corners...

Welcome to GTC.

-mike

Fogelhund · 9 Oct 2013, 19:43 (Ref:3315381)

They've managed 218.229mph with the Ford EcoBoost DP. Almost as fast as the Porsche 917/30 speed from Talladega in 1975.

HORNDAWG · 9 Oct 2013, 19:52 (Ref:3315387)

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Originally Posted by jasonjessica09

Accidents can occur when the cars are the same speed or if they are going at different speeds. It makes no difference. To see DP/P2/PC/GTLM all mixed together potentially racing for overall positions in addition to class is a great thing I think.

Huh?

L.P.

Danske · 9 Oct 2013, 20:55 (Ref:3315413)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

They've managed 218.229mph with the Ford EcoBoost DP. Almost as fast as the Porsche 917/30 speed from Talladega in 1975.

Jeff Braun reports they got it up to 221.861mph, and that Colin says that feels really fast.

EricS · 9 Oct 2013, 21:02 (Ref:3315417)

Marshall Pruett just announced on MWM that Muscle Milk/Pickett Racing will not be in Indycar next year. They will be doing "something interesting" in sportscars, most likely not until 2015 and not in TUSCC.

FstrthnU · 9 Oct 2013, 21:28 (Ref:3315431)

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Originally Posted by EricS

Marshall Pruett just announced on MWM that Muscle Milk/Pickett Racing will not be in Indycar next year. They will be doing "something interesting" in sportscars, most likely not until 2015 and not in TUSCC.

Almost certainly saving up money for WEC LMP1 with HPD ARX-04a, probably with hybrid option. Unless he's going with one of the smaller manufacturers like ADESS?

TF110 · 9 Oct 2013, 21:45 (Ref:3315438)

I would say he stays with hpd if he does lmp. Maybe he will do the NSX in GT?

FstrthnU · 9 Oct 2013, 21:57 (Ref:3315443)

Just for fun, a picture of the Daytona top speed run

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...7286990&type=3

We can get a better look at the new Ford bodywork too

Nick Woodbury · 9 Oct 2013, 22:44 (Ref:3315468)

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Originally Posted by FstrthnU

We can get a better look at the new Ford bodywork too

Isn't the "official" updated Ford DP bodywork supposed to debut next season, or at least until the 2014 regulations are put in place?

Mechanic Z · 12 Oct 2013, 16:21 (Ref:3316733)

If anyone cares, here's the entry forms for the two tests in November:
http://www.imsaracing.net/2013/alms/...try%20Form.pdf

http://www.imsaracing.net/2013/alms/...try%20Form.pdf

Danske · 12 Oct 2013, 17:04 (Ref:3316743)

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Originally Posted by Nick Woodbury

Isn't the "official" updated Ford DP bodywork supposed to debut next season, or at least until the 2014 regulations are put in place?

I think what we've seen is it. The way I read the mention of 2014 was just the car was not incorporating the 2014 changes, whatever they may be, and thus not exactly as it will be in 2014.

Mechanic Z · 13 Oct 2013, 16:14 (Ref:3317240)

More 2014 regs;
Entry fees:
http://www.imsaracing.net/2013/alms/...MO%2014-05.pdf

Prize money distribution:
http://www.imsaracing.net/2013/alms/...MO%2014-04.pdf

Class capacity bulletin:
http://www.imsaracing.net/2013/alms/...MO%2014-03.pdf

FstrthnU · 13 Oct 2013, 16:51 (Ref:3317262)

I doubt any of the teams could pay for a single race with just the prize money from the whole season put together.

MoMedic9019 · 13 Oct 2013, 17:07 (Ref:3317280)

6 wins to pay for 1 using only prize money.

chernaudi · 13 Oct 2013, 17:48 (Ref:3317325)

$35K to win in an ALMS or $35-50K to win a race in Grand Am--one race win probably wouldn't cover Audi's or Toyota's tire bills for a normal WEC race weekend, or the tire bills for a typical NASCAR Sprint Cup team's weekend tire usage.

Sportscar racing is def. a case where the race purses' prize money funds haven't kept up with the cost of competing. But that's hardly unique in racing. For sure in F1 or NASCAR, a team can't be competitive on prize money alone. There's a reason why NASCAR sponsorship budgets range from $15 million reportely as high as even $35 million USD, and only god knows what such budgets range for a front-running F1 team such as the relatively under-funded Lotus effort, let alone a team like Mercedes-Benz/AMG, Ferrari or Red Bull Racing.

EricS · 13 Oct 2013, 18:59 (Ref:3317354)

Prize money comparisons with this year's Sebring & PLM. ALMS also has the privateer bonus for the non-factories. Couldn't find the GA prize money info easily. Anyone have link?

Sebring and Petit Le Mans 2013

Position	P1	P2	GT	PC	GTC	Total
1	$25,000	$25,000	$25,000	$22,000	$22,000	$119,000
2	$15,000	$15,000	$15,000	$15,000	$15,000	$75,000
3	$10,000	$10,000	$10,000	$7,000	$7,000	$44,000
4	$9,000	$9,000	$9,000	$4,000	$4,000	$35,000
5	$8,000	$8,000	$8,000	$2,000	$2,000	$28,000
Total	$67,000	$67,000	$67,000	$50,000	$50,000	$301,000

Sebring and Petit Le Mans 2014

Position	P	PC	GTLM	GTD	Total
1	$30,000	$22,000	$30,000	$22,000	$104,000
2	$18,000	$15,000	$18,000	$15,000	$66,000
3	$10,000	$7,000	$10,000	$7,000	$34,000
4	$9,000	$4,000	$9,000	$4,000	$26,000
5	$8,000	$2,000	$8,000	$2,000	$20,000
Total	$75,000	$50,00	$75,000	$50,000	$250,000

Entry Fee Comparisons:

Sebring and Petit Le Mans 2013

Position	P1	P2	GT	PC	GTC
Standard	$14,500	$14,500	$14,500	$12,500	$12,500
Premium	$6,750	$6,750	$6,750	$5,750	$5,750

Sebring and Petit Le Mans 2014

	P	PC	GTLM	GTD
Standard	$20,000	$15,000	$20,000	$15,000
Premium	$10,000	$7,500	$10,000	$7,500

TL;DR Entry fees up, individual race prize money staying the same.

Danske · 13 Oct 2013, 19:24 (Ref:3317364)

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Originally Posted by EricS

Couldn't find the GA prize money info easily. Anyone have link?

It's in Event Information.

Lanky Turtle · 13 Oct 2013, 21:06 (Ref:3317413)

http://www.imsaracing.net/2013/alms/...MO%2014-05.pdf

Not sure if it had been previously announced but this also confirms the leader lights system and use of car number panels for next year.

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