Sportscar/GT (and Le Mans) Rumours and Repetition

[deggis]

Originally Posted by PascaLM

And why not bringing his own budget for a smaller team ?...

Kovalainen is known for refusing to pay for a seat. Which I guess means he has no backers.

I doubt this is really a rumor but an opinion/suggestion.

[FstrthnU]

http://sportscar365.com/elms/matt-mc...opment-driver/
Best of look to Matt Mcmurry and Dyson Racing!

[Simmi]

Originally Posted by FstrthnU

http://sportscar365.com/elms/matt-mc...opment-driver/
Best of look to Matt Mcmurry and Dyson Racing!

Maybe he can do a few ELMS races? Seems strange to become a development driver for a team that aren't even racing this year...

[MyNameIsNigel]

"Les Suisses au Mans" are fuelling - amongst other things - the rumour of a possible interest for Audi to run in the LMP2 category on US soil starting from 2016.

Toujours Ã* propos de LMP2, deux rumeurs circulaient ce soir-lÃ* : l’intérêt de… Audi de se lancer dans cette catégorie dès 2016 sur le sol américain et le projet de construction d’une voiture suisse qui pourrait être confiée Ã* Chuck Graemiger, le père des Cheetah de l’époque ! Dans le cas d’Audi, l’hypothèse n’est pas si farfelue qu’elle n’y paraît de prime abord : les Allemands désormais absents de la compétition sur les circuits d’outre-Atlantique, se doivent de réoccuper le terrain, Ã* des fins commerciales évidemment…

(source: Les Suisses au Mans - in French)

[joeb]

If that rumor means future p2 regs will be based on p1 tubs, I think it is a good thing. Plus if this means future p2 regs will be the basis of proto regs stateside I think it is a win win.

[ger80]

Great, we know what happend to P2 when Porsche entered. For me they should not be allowed into P2, even if the car meets the cost cap it will raise the level of P2 and kill other cars ...

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by ger80

Great, we know what happend to P2 when Porsche entered. For me they should not be allowed into P2, even if the car meets the cost cap it will raise the level of P2 and kill other cars ...

Same here, and I smell "works team" when Volkswagen with their two brands are "heavily" involved in TUSC LMP2.

Then again, I'm thinking that Audi wants total domination in the world of sports car racing. Aiming for class wins doesn't excite them in the US.

Still, I like the idea of having next-gen LMP2 cars based on LMP1 tubs.

[David Land]

TUCC P2 SHOULD be the equivalent of WEC P1.

There are already TUSCC only cars being developed anyway such as the Mazda and the Coyote DP.

Porsche running their P1 car here would not ruin anything in a Pro class.

[TF110]

Theyre too slow. A DP car is nearly 10 seconds slower than lmp1. Toyota was also talking lmp2. Maybe Audi wants to run diesel in the class since Mazda is a laugh?

[Pandemonium]

Originally Posted by David Land

TUCC P2 SHOULD be the equivalent of WEC P1.

There are already TUSCC only cars being developed anyway such as the Mazda and the Coyote DP.

Porsche running their P1 car here would not ruin anything in a Pro class.

LOL you must be kidding hahahaha of course Audi would love to be compared to the DP´s ahahhaha lol Fricking hillbillies.
Stop comparing the TUSCC with the WEC. It is disgracefull.

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by TF110

Theyre too slow. A DP car is nearly 10 seconds slower than lmp1. Toyota was also talking lmp2. Maybe Audi wants to run diesel in the class since Mazda is a laugh?

Mazda can also be a bigger joke when they replaced it with their Wankel engine, only to be banned.

Manufacturers are okay, but let the privies run their cars.

[Mal]

Now this would be cool:

http://sportscar365.com/wec/ford-sup...rn-to-le-mans/

[MitchZ06]

Not sure where to post this but the C6.R ZR1 chassis #006 that SRT have picked up will be getting a 7.0L LS based engine fitted in place of the LS5.5R. Nothing like a spot of hot rodding....

[MyNameIsNigel]

"Les Suisses au Mans" are reporting rumours regarding further possible defections on the entry list for the 2014 LM race:
- Lotus T129 LMP1 (don't tell me you would be surprised)
- Murphy Prototypes (struggling to find the budget ?)
and
...
- the Nissan ZEOD... ?

[TF110]

Zeod isnt going to miss the race, theyre actually pretty far along in testing. Not anything like the others with financial/legal issues (unless Panoz has an actual case).

[MyNameIsNigel]

Originally Posted by TF110

Zeod isnt going to miss the race, theyre actually pretty far along in testing. Not anything like the others with financial/legal issues (unless Panoz has an actual case).

[Puzzle]

I did a quick check in the OHIM database of European community designs, and there doesn't appear to be a community design registration held by panoz in there for the deltawing, also does not appear to be any panoz held design registrations in inpi database of french design registrations so Mr Panoz will be **** out of luck if he thinks that he'll be able to take them to court and get an injunction against use of the delta wing design at le mans. I'm aware that they have a design patent in the US though, but as far as I'm aware nothing of the visible part of the cars design is made in America.

Edit: THE ****ER BLEEPED ME also mr panoz does appear to have a european community design for the abruzzi

Edit2: also this does not touch any issues in regards to copyright and that's a completely different test for infringement

[MyNameIsNigel]

Originally Posted by Puzzle

I did a quick check in the OHIM database of european community designs, and there doesn't appear to be a community design registration held by panoz in there, also does not appear to be any panoz held design registrations in inpi database of french design registrations so Mr Panoz will be **** out of luck if he thinks that he'll be able to take them to court and get an injunction against use of the delta wing design at le mans. I'm aware that they have a design patent in the US though, but as far as I'm aware nothing of the visible part of the cars design is made in america.

Unless part of the legal issue includes an alleged violation of unregistered rights and/or relevant provisions of possible former agreements between the parties. Registered rights, such as registered designs, patents and trademarks, only constitute part of the arsenal of IP rights that could be exploited against an alleged infringer.

[Puzzle]

Originally Posted by MyNameIsNigel

Unless part of the legal issue includes an alleged violation of unregistered rights and/or relevant provisions of possible former agreements between the parties. Registered rights, such as registered designs, patents and trademarks, only constitute part of the arsenal of IP rights that could be exploited against an alleged infringer.

Very true, I should have noted in my original post that I was talking specifically about registered design infringement.

[Pontlieue]

In an interview on endurance-info.com Gerard Neveu is asked about additional constructors. And especially this sentence is interesting:

"Il est vrai que l’on discute avec de nouveaux constructeurs. Tout sera annoncé en temps et en heure. Il y a différents projets pour 2016 et 2017."

So they are discussing with potential new constructors for 2016 and 2017.

[gustavobamba]

Originally Posted by Pontlieue

In an interview on endurance-info.com Gerard Neveu is asked about additional constructors. And especially this sentence is interesting:

"Il est vrai que l’on discute avec de nouveaux constructeurs. Tout sera annoncé en temps et en heure. Il y a différents projets pour 2016 et 2017."

So they are discussing with potential new constructors for 2016 and 2017.

Nissan will "probably" go to Le Mans next year as an "invited" because they won´t do WEC. Maybe they do full WEC in 2016… that´s my opinion

The other manufacture, may be BMW!!!!! that´s a wish more than anything

[GT6]

Well if we are going for a wish list of new manufacturers in the lmp class, how about Jaguar and Ferarri, well it is a wish list

[gustavobamba]

Originally Posted by GT6

Well if we are going for a wish list of new manufacturers in the lmp class, how about Jaguar and Ferarri, well it is a wish list

I´m a dreamer

But BMW are away of big motorsport activities a long way back, they only doing DTM. If they comeback will be in LMP1 because they don´t have a GT contender.

[Acid09]

Motorsport-Total has some quotes from Neveu, claiming that there's several manufacturers interested in joining the WEC, both in P1 and GTE.

According to rumors, one is Korean (Kia?), one German (BMW? There were rumors before...) and Ferrari is being mentioned as well. One of them is apparently interested in joining "in short-term".

There's also new rumors regarding the Nissan P1, it may be powered by the now-obsolete Renault F1 V8 engine and be branded as Infiniti.

Exciting times, looks like the WEC may become very huge in just a few years time

[GT6]

Well with formula snooze with its new quiet engines taking a slippery slope down WEC could be on the rise again