Porsche 997 - Development Curve

[Spyderman]

A examination of the sector times shows that the Felbermayer-Proton Porsche was quicker than the Virgo Ferrari in sectors 1 and 3 (long straights)
It was sector 2 that was its downfall.
If only they had development tires like the Virgo car, we would really have a fight on our hands!

[bil588]

What is stopping teams from getting Dunlops?

JMB Racing has switched to Dunlops

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[tzh]

I prefer 997

[The Badger]

Good boy ..... you can be in my club then .

Hey brielga ..... let me introduce you to a "NEW" Porsche fan . He has the good fortune not to be in your club !!

[Dario911]

You are a great, tzh! Welcome in the Porsche Crew! We are here to support the best: the mythical 911!

[Dunlop Corner]

Originally Posted by bil588

What is stopping teams from getting Dunlops?

Virgo is on development Dunlops while JMB is getting customer tires.

[arakis]

Originally Posted by Spyderman

A examination of the sector times shows that the Felbermayer-Proton Porsche was quicker than the Virgo Ferrari in sectors 1 and 3 (long straights)
It was sector 2 that was its downfall.
If only they had development tires like the Virgo car, we would really have a fight on our hands!

well my friend you need to examin samo more sector times, see Virgo was setup with the 2nd sector in mind becouse you gain most time there thus even if it was slower in first and second it still had laptimes fast enough to take the win.

if you look a bit closly you'll see that ferrari is holding alll sectors, see the frambracher ferrari was setup like the porsches and thus was fastest in 1, and the 3 sector while beeing slowest of the 3 in sector 2, but it still took the best lap

you need to accept once that ferrari won and there are other races, No poprsche was not faster and no nobody is giving ferrari an ufair addvantige, cos, u see if wee get into it what do you have to say about porsches getting 25 kilo brakes in fia gt, and i think in alms too, and also michelin is developing tires specialy for porsche for Le Mans and alms

I also forgot that Virgo is a very small team compared to fambracher racing and flmbyer proton, wich are practicly bouth factory teams.

[Dario911]

And Virgo is a factoty team, too. Stop with lies, arakis.
Be serious.

[Dario911]

Virgo is the fatory team for Ferrari-Michelotto and Dunlop.
Felbermayr and Farnbacher are only Porsche teams, they're not favoured by Michelin in any way. They don't use any development tire, like Virgo's Ferrari and Dunlop. Porsche uses only Michelin customer tires. A greatful difference.

[Spyderman]

Originally Posted by arakis

well my friend you need to examin samo more sector times, see Virgo was setup with the 2nd sector in mind becouse you gain most time there thus even if it was slower in first and second it still had laptimes fast enough to take the win.

There are only three sectors, so its not possible to "examine more sector times".

Originally Posted by arakis

if you look a bit closly you'll see that ferrari is holding alll sectors, see the frambracher ferrari was setup like the porsches and thus was fastest in 1, and the 3 sector while beeing slowest of the 3 in sector 2, but it still took the best lap

If you look closely at the other thread where this was being discussed, I also said the the Farnbacher Ferrari was quickest in sector 1, but the BIG problem is that they didn't finish.

Originally Posted by arakis

you need to accept once that ferrari won and there are other races, No poprsche was not faster and no nobody is giving ferrari an ufair addvantige, cos, u see if wee get into it what do you have to say about porsches getting 25 kilo brakes in fia gt, and i think in alms too, and also michelin is developing tires specialy for porsche for Le Mans and alms

No one said Porsche was faster, only that the #77 Porsche was faster than the Virgo car in sectors 1 and 2.
As for the 25 kg break in FIA gt: read my other posts and you will see that I am very much against that idea.
There are no IMSA bulettins that indicate any type of weight break for Porsche in the ALMS.
Michelin might be developing special tires for Porsche, just as Dunlop are developing them for Ferrari.
The Virgo car has a development contract with Dunlop, but the Felbermayer Porsche does not have one with Michelin.... no matter how much you try and twist things.

Originally Posted by arakis

I also forgot that Virgo is a very small team compared to fambracher racing and flmbyer proton, wich are practicly bouth factory teams.

They are factory supported...there is a difference.

[vorsprung]

Originally Posted by Dario911

Virgo is the fatory team for Ferrari-Michelotto and Dunlop.
Felbermayr and Farnbacher are only Porsche teams, they're not favoured by Michelin in any way. They don't use any development tire, like Virgo's Ferrari and Dunlop. Porsche uses only Michelin customer tires. A greatful difference.

According to a Dunlop tech Lieb's car had development Michelins in Monza and Spa. Farnbacher Ferrari and JMB are on customer Dunlops.

[Spyderman]

Each of the Porsche teams running Michelin tires are customers, which means that they buy their own tires prior to the race, have limited compounds to choose from, and have to monitor pressures and temperatures themselves. The Ferrari enjoyed development tires from Dunlop....
From Andrew Cotton

[Satorian]

On RLM a few weeks the guys also commented how odd it is to put Porsche factory drivers into the cars and not get a development tyre deal. The Porkas are running customer tyres.

Did that perhaps change in the mean time, without anyone noticing?

[bil588]

Originally Posted by Spyderman

Each of the Porsche teams running Michelin tires are customers, which means that they buy their own tires prior to the race, have limited compounds to choose from, and have to monitor pressures and temperatures themselves. The Ferrari enjoyed development tires from Dunlop....
From Andrew Cotton

source?

[Spyderman]

Andrew Cotton - sportscarpros

[vorsprung]

Originally Posted by Spyderman

Each of the Porsche teams running Michelin tires are customers, which means that they buy their own tires prior to the race, have limited compounds to choose from, and have to monitor pressures and temperatures themselves. The Ferrari enjoyed development tires from Dunlop....
From Andrew Cotton

That's from Barcelona report. The situation might have changed for Monza.

[Spyderman]

Not to my knowledge.