[iV8SC14R171819] SkyCity Triple Crown, Darwin -20-22 June

[EL GT]

Originally Posted by rich07

The only excitement to come out of either race was GT and Frosty in race one. I enjoyed that. But otherwise it was just another Whincup benefit. Urgh

The only one having a go was JC and he went backwards for his efforts

[rich07]

Haven't watched Touring Car Masters for a while but this one race today has got more excitement then both of yesterday's V8 races.

Especially the whole grid heading towards turn one, my ears are happy

[peckstar]

much better race today, exciting finish

[GTRMagic]

Congratulations to Mr Winterbottom. On what looked like cooked tyres he managed to keep the Tekno car away, and extend his championship lead

The 7-ites made a big song and dance about Mr Ingall having all these tyres, and he ended up 10th.. Whoopdidoo

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Congratulations to Mr Winterbottom. On what looked like cooked tyres he managed to keep the Tekno car away, and extend his championship lead

The 7-ites made a big song and dance about Mr Ingall having all these tyres, and he ended up 10th.. Whoopdidoo

they were pretty excited about GT and Whincup tyres also, but they didnt really come into play

[peckstar]

Did the red mist decend on Lowndes? he made contact in a silly place on the track at a time when one more lap and he would have been passed anyway. From memory he was ahead of Jamie at the time so he should been there at the end instead of battling for last

[Mixer]

I am a day behind because I just arrived back in the country, so purely from race 1:

Does anybody else think Dale Wood has no place in this championship?

He's never done anything worthwhile in the main game and his driving down the back against Dahlgren (who seemed to be chipping away alright) was absolutely atrocious.

I know in his first stint we blamed the Kelly Krate, but if his cheques didn't clear, he would be nowhere....

[Umai Naa]

Woody's a tough one.

King of the kids last year in DVS, but the third wheel in the BJR camp has never been all that flash anyway. Sure, he's shown flashes of speed this year, but as per everyone else that's driven the #21 car, nothing to write home about.

[Chris - Melb]

Marks win was very reminiscent of the Will Davison win at Barbagallo a couple of years ago. Whoops! I mentioned Will Davison, but I think I got away with it...

Whincup finished 3rd in that race too.

[bluesport]

It was a good effort by Frosty given that he was 10th on the grid and the safety car came out at exactly the wrong time.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Does anybody else think Dale Wood has no place in this championship?

He's never done anything worthwhile in the main game and his driving down the back against Dahlgren (who seemed to be chipping away alright) was absolutely atrocious.

I know in his first stint we blamed the Kelly Krate, but if his cheques didn't clear, he would be nowhere....

Its hard to know the make up of the deficiency, whether it is the relatively low budget nature of the 3rd BJR car, the engineering resource behind it, or indeed the talent behind the wheel.

Mr Wood was successful in the Dunlop series last year, not dominatingly so, but better than his competitors.

An aside.. is it interesting that Mr Wood was not invited back to the M Motorsport Lamborghini for next year's 12 hour, despite some commonality of sponsors

[rich07]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Its hard to know the make up of the deficiency, whether it is the relatively low budget nature of the 3rd BJR car, the engineering resource behind it, or indeed the talent behind the wheel.

Mr Wood was successful in the Dunlop series last year, not dominatingly so, but better than his competitors.

An aside.. is it interesting that Mr Wood was not invited back to the M Motorsport Lamborghini for next year's 12 hour, despite some commonality of sponsors

With Bairdo leaving Clearwater to join Steve Richards and car owner in the Lambo there would be no room for him anyway.

I'm assuming here that the third BJR car is better prepared then the Kelly Krate (not that hard) so I'm looking at Woody here to improve.

[bluesport]

Roland Dane slams Mostert:

http://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsp...-1226967447735

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by bluesport

Roland Dane slams Mostert:

http://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsp...-1226967447735

Seems a strange thing to get excited about... its up the pursuer to get around the defender in the fastest and safest manner isnt it? There are a few Nissans out there that seem to block way harder than Mr Mostert did in that race..

More paper talk

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Seems a strange thing to get excited about... its up the pursuer to get around the defender in the fastest and safest manner isnt it? There are a few Nissans out there that seem to block way harder than Mr Mostert did in that race..

More paper talk

Roland needs to take a good hard look at himself sometimes, every man and his dog escorts cars wide there, and Mostert should have even less reason to not move over when Lowndes is the overtaker as Mr Magic mentions.

Strangely the article doesn't mention the writer. Does Mr Phelps have some internal competition?

[mikuni]

Originally Posted by Axeman444

Strangely the article doesn't mention the writer. Does Mr Phelps have some internal competition?

STORY BY
William Dale, SPEED
FOX SPORTS

No offence intended, but I find it really funny that so many people (a similar thing happened with a previous article) are confuddled when the website has the authors name printed on the right hand side.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by mikuni

STORY BY
William Dale, SPEED
FOX SPORTS

No offence intended, but I find it really funny that so many people (a similar thing happened with a previous article) are confuddled when the website has the authors name printed on the right hand side.

A tenths member no less

[peckstar]

Only idiot i could see was the one trying to pass around the outside on that corner and then getting cranky and trying to punt the front car off.

Serve Mr Cranky pants right and his team owner

[fomoco]

Originally Posted by bluesport

Roland Dane slams Mostert:

http://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsp...-1226967447735

Obviously "Red Bull gives you the belief that everyone should get out of the way"

Roland Dane : Another Whinging Pom.
Do a Dave Richards, sell up and go home.

[Umai Naa]

Mr Mostert has made some rather questionable moves in the past, some of which cost him a DVS title.

Mr Dane's words, in my opinion, were a tad harsh, but the reality of it is the kid is still learning.

[mikuni]

Originally Posted by fomoco

Obviously "Red Bull gives you the belief that everyone should get out of the way"

Reminds me of Ingles little hissy fit earlier in the season. Just because you're on better tyres and are going much faster, it doesn't mean the red sea shall part. If you're passing for position, you actually have to pass for position.

I'm not going to shoot Lowndes, because it seems someone else is speaking for him, but Roland needs to realise that they have to race everyone on the track. The back markers shouldn't just step aside to let Triple 8 go and bother Frosty.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by mikuni

Reminds me of Ingles little hissy fit earlier in the season. Just because you're on better tyres and are going much faster, it doesn't mean the red sea shall part. If you're passing for position, you actually have to pass for position.

The thing is, the pilot of #17 IS in a lot of compromising positions on the track, and gets his ears boxed a lot because spatial awareness and car placement on the track when it is clearly unwell & dying is not normally a strong suit. So you can kinda see Mr Ingall's point. It had me wondering at the time whether the DSO actually spent some time with the pilot and engineer of #17 to coach/encourage a slightly different approach. I bet it didnt happen

[mikuni]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

The thing is, the pilot of #17 IS in a lot of compromising positions on the track, and gets his ears boxed a lot because spatial awareness and car placement on the track when it is clearly unwell & dying is not normally a strong suit. So you can kinda see Mr Ingall's point. It had me wondering at the time whether the DSO actually spent some time with the pilot and engineer of #17 to coach/encourage a slightly different approach. I bet it didnt happen

Number 17 being David Wall? I had to look that up..

Perhaps so, but my point is, no matter what the state of play is out there, and the level of the drivers, you have to take a certain amount of responsibility for what you are doing out there, and what the outcome might be. If a driver is know bad, give him a bit of space, and don't try and tap him off, because he'll surely go ya. I'm not saying that's right, but that is and always has been the nature of tin tops (and increasingly other forms of motorsport too).

I don't think highly of Chaz Mostert at all. I think he's lucky to be in the car he's in, and has yet to prove himself. But that changes nothing on the incident with Lowndes.

[Umai Naa]

This is where Mr Whincup shines compared to most; concede a spot or two with an ailing car, or try and fight to the death, and risk getting carted off, conceding many spots.

[Umai Naa]

Originally Posted by mikuni

Number 17 being David Wall? I had to look that up..

Perhaps so, but my point is, no matter what the state of play is out there, and the level of the drivers, you have to take a certain amount of responsibility for what you are doing out there, and what the outcome might be. If a driver is know bad, give him a bit of space, and don't try and tap him off, because he'll surely go ya. I'm not saying that's right, but that is and always has been the nature of tin tops (and increasingly other forms of motorsport too).

I don't think highly of Chaz Mostert at all. I think he's lucky to be in the car he's in, and has yet to prove himself. But that changes nothing on the incident with Lowndes.

Don't want to make it sound like a Whincup love-fest, but I recall an interview where he was asked which driver he tends to give a bit of a wide berth to, and that was Mr Tander. Now there's a driver who does not spare an inch of track for anyone.