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start smoking/drinking/partake in whatever said product provides 3 6.12%
change brands 8 16.33%
cause you to buy similarly branded merchandise 4 8.16%
nothing, stick to what you know/like 34 69.39%
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Old 8 Dec 2003, 17:37 (Ref:806802)   #26
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one day a Bud in hand i was wal..... oops no jokes DAMN!!!

maybe if Ferrari struggle next year theyll accuse Williams of using BUD as FUEL!!!
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Old 8 Dec 2003, 17:59 (Ref:806818)   #27
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EERO should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridEERO should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridEERO should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridEERO should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
When I smoked, most of the brands supporting F1 were not widely available in the States. I tried Rothmans having become aware of the brand through its sponsorship of Sportcars in the 70's, (long before the brand graced a Williams), but they were too expensive for a student's budget and tasted like...err...Le Mans at 3:00 AM.

I bought Benetton sweaters before they supported F1, (back when Flavio Flave ran the US division) and I bought Veltins before they supported Williams. But I will never buy Bud and I doubt I'd buy a Compaq.

I guess F1 support might influence my decision to try a product, but it hasd to stand on its own merits after the trial.
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Old 8 Dec 2003, 18:05 (Ref:806823)   #28
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Uhn... I used Parmalat products before they start sponsoring teams in F1. And "Nacional" was never my bank...
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Old 8 Dec 2003, 18:18 (Ref:806836)   #29
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How many people knew what trust was until this season
Until I read this thread I had absolutely no idea. Having read it's content I guess it's some type of electronics company...? That says to me that sports sponsorship doesn't work.

However the guy that drinks Fosters has blown that right out of the water - either he has no taste or he's been brainwashed!
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Old 8 Dec 2003, 18:24 (Ref:806843)   #30
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However the guy that drinks Fosters has blown that right out of the water - either he has no taste or he's been brainwashed!
Good point, although Fosters at foreign GP is much better than in Britain. In the heat there it can be excellent (still a shame we don't get more chance of the local brews, which especially at Spa can be excellent).

I have also had a fantastic pint of Fosters at Oulton. A really hot day and I enjoyed the refreshing taste of the flavoured water
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Old 8 Dec 2003, 20:30 (Ref:806932)   #31
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Oh damn, I'm afraid I let the beer snobs out again!

Like you said Adam, nothing like a nice easy to drink lager, uhmm, flavored water I think you called it, on a nice hot day!
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Old 8 Dec 2003, 21:02 (Ref:806947)   #32
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Fair point, i suppose, but the question should be, once people had heard about it, did they do anything to have involvement with it? Would TRUST have got as anything out of their investment? Was the investment justified?
Trust 2002 profit: 4.970.000

Trust 2003 profit: 6.847.000
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Old 8 Dec 2003, 21:05 (Ref:806950)   #33
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and all because Jos drove with their logo on his suit. Wow, impressive!
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Old 8 Dec 2003, 21:11 (Ref:806954)   #34
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haha! Yeah maybe 10 Tenths should find a few bucks to get some third-rate runner to run with our logo on his racesuit?
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Old 8 Dec 2003, 21:12 (Ref:806955)   #35
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Yes, almost one third more profit............
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Old 8 Dec 2003, 21:33 (Ref:806967)   #36
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Uhn... I used Parmalat products before they start sponsoring teams in F1. And "Nacional" was never my bank...

Nacional was a brand of sigarettes IIRC.
From the Phillip Morris company, like Marlboro and L&M.
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Old 8 Dec 2003, 21:34 (Ref:806969)   #37
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In Brazil it was a bank, it has now been taken over by ABN AMRO, they used to sponsor Senna
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Old 8 Dec 2003, 21:37 (Ref:806971)   #38
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You sure?
I've seen a list of Phillip Morris owned brands and Nacional was in there somewhere.
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Old 8 Dec 2003, 21:45 (Ref:806980)   #39
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that would be very strange since nacional was also on Senna's helmet when he drove for Rothmans Honda,Camel Lotus and JPS Lotus.

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Old 8 Dec 2003, 21:51 (Ref:806988)   #40
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Must have been hallucinating then or something...
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Old 8 Dec 2003, 22:22 (Ref:807010)   #41
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I've seen a list of Phillip Morris owned brands and Nacional was in there somewhere.
Nacional was Brazil's 4th largest bank IIRC. No way could Marlboro and Nacional have been accomodated at the same time on the one helmet/driving suit if it were a tobacco brand.
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Old 9 Dec 2003, 08:40 (Ref:807271)   #43
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I don't smoke,
and ciggy ads won't certainly make me change my mind about!
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Old 9 Dec 2003, 11:26 (Ref:807374)   #44
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In Brazil it was a bank, it has now been taken over by ABN AMRO, they used to sponsor Senna
Exactly.


And "Arisco" is a food company, sponsored Piquet and RB a long time ago...
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Keep an eye out for the fortunes of Parmalat ( Brabham and Lauda long term sponsors ) their shares were suspended on the Milan stock exchange yesterday .
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When I bought my new car last year I made sure it had Michelin tyres on it. They wanted to put Bridgestones on, but I requested Michelin, in the end they changed them for me. I didn't want my money to go to Bridgestone and help Ferrari.

I also make sure I never fill up in a shell garage! I will not use Shell products!
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When I bought my new car last year I made sure it had Michelin tyres on it. They wanted to put Bridgestones on, but I requested Michelin, in the end they changed them for me. I didn't want my money to go to Bridgestone and help Ferrari.

I also make sure I never fill up in a shell garage! I will not use Shell products!
Well, I'm abit confused, does that mean that advertising works, or it doesn't work, or only works in reverse, or only sometimes, or... :confused:
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Advertising works according to your bias(es). You use it against some things and for some things. Very powerful thing, advertising...
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Essex Petroleum, Moneytron, can you think of other companies which really took away a benetit from exposure on the side of an F1 car !
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Well, I'm abit confused, does that mean that advertising works, or it doesn't work, or only works in reverse, or only sometimes, or... :confused:
It depends if you are die-hard anti-Ferrari or not...
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