Mosport ALMS weekend thread - Page 2

ger80 · 4 Sep 2006, 10:21 (Ref:1701411)

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Originally Posted by isynge

- The difference between LMP1 and LMP2 over race distance now seems to have been struck. The Audis and Lolas are faster than the RS Spyders.

Depends on the tracks, the last two had been very fast.

eddsc · 4 Sep 2006, 13:22 (Ref:1701550)

Biela was struggling with awful rubber pick-up, hence his lack of speed.

gwyllion · 4 Sep 2006, 13:30 (Ref:1701553)

So the Dyson were gentler on the Michelin because of their weight advantage.

JAG · 4 Sep 2006, 17:09 (Ref:1701669)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

Found their speed with a big help from IMSA

A little help.

That Lola/AER has come on leaps and bounds.

The weight break still gives them a poorer power/weight ratio than the R10 according to Weaver.

**Adam43** · 4 Sep 2006, 21:30 (Ref:1701872)

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Originally Posted by 1969MGCGTdriver

It's a shame that IMSA decided to end the race one lap early and convieniently hand Audi their coveted championship. One more lap and I think Guy would have either a) passed McNish for the win or b) been wrecked by McNish while going around him for the win.

I'm not sure the one lap made any difference. The gap was 2.7s IIRC at the end and McNish was cruising.

On a general point are you accusing the race stewards made the decision to end the race one lap early to give the race to Audi?

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Originally Posted by JAG

The weight break still gives them a poorer power/weight ratio than the R10 according to Weaver.

That certainly appears to be the case. However Weaver did note that the weight also helps your handling and he feels that they are ahead of the Audi in this aspect.

1969MGCGTdriver · 5 Sep 2006, 01:31 (Ref:1701976)

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Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

I'm not sure the one lap made any difference. The gap was 2.7s IIRC at the end and McNish was cruising.

On a general point are you accusing the race stewards made the decision to end the race one lap early to give the race to Audi?
That certainly appears to be the case. However Weaver did note that the weight also helps your handling and he feels that they are ahead of the Audi in this aspect.

McNish was not cruising. He said in post-race interviews he was driving balls-out.

Facetiously (sp?), yes, I am accusing the stewards of ending the race 1 lap too soon. Based on race pace they could/should have been able to go around 1 more time. Of course that might have blemished mighty Audi's marketing plans (I own an Audi BTW).

I would have liked to have seen a shoot out between McNish and Smith. NOW THAT WOULD HAVE MADE A GREAT END TO A VERY GOOD RACE!!!!

Fogelhund · 5 Sep 2006, 01:37 (Ref:1701979)

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Originally Posted by 1969MGCGTdriver

McNish was not cruising. He said in post-race interviews he was driving balls-out.

Facetiously (sp?), yes, I am accusing the stewards of ending the race 1 lap too soon. Based on race pace they could/should have been able to go around 1 more time. Of course that might have blemished mighty Audi's marketing plans (I own an Audi BTW).

I would have liked to have seen a shoot out between McNish and Smith. NOW THAT WOULD HAVE MADE A GREAT END TO A VERY GOOD RACE!!!!

At that point in the race, McNish was doing regular 1:10's, with the odd 09, and :11 thrown in. Based on his race pace, they made the right call. I'm not sure he could have closed a 2.7 gap AND made a pass even if there was an additional lap.

1969MGCGTdriver · 5 Sep 2006, 04:31 (Ref:1702008)

I wasn't really complaining, okay maybe a little, but only in jest. It was a very good race.
I have no doubt that Guy could have caught him. Passing would be a different story, I think we all agree on this. But maybe with the fresher tires he could have forced McNish to go too deep into a corner or got on the gas too hard (as happened earlier in the race). I think that a McNish mistake was going to be Guy's only chance.

With all this being said, I don't know about PLM. It pains me to say it but I think over 12 hours the R10s will have pace AND reliablity on their side, I hope I'm wrong. But Laguna may be another story. And I definately cannot wait until Sebring!!!!!!

henk4 · 5 Sep 2006, 06:15 (Ref:1702021)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

That all depends on who is driveing the Creation !!!

I did hear that Minnissian was mentioned , but who the other driver's will be ?

Stefan Johansson most likely, and that will make one heck of a team. (Nick and Stefan were sitting next to each other during the LMS autograph session at the Nuerburgring)....

henk4 · 5 Sep 2006, 06:16 (Ref:1702022)

Given the result of this race will there be another cry for "reducing" the competitive advantage of the Audis?

The Badger · 5 Sep 2006, 06:29 (Ref:1702028)

Johansson ..... I would have thought he would have been in the Zytek and not the Creation ?

Fogelhund · 5 Sep 2006, 06:41 (Ref:1702031)

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Originally Posted by 1969MGCGTdriver

With all this being said, I don't know about PLM. It pains me to say it but I think over 12 hours the R10s will have pace AND reliablity on their side, I hope I'm wrong.

PLM is 10 hours or 1000km, whichever comes first.

henk4 · 5 Sep 2006, 06:53 (Ref:1702036)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Johansson ..... I would have thought he would have been in the Zytek and not the Creation ?

they were openly discussing the possibility....

henk4 · 5 Sep 2006, 06:54 (Ref:1702037)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

PLM is 10 hours or 1000km, whichever comes first.

something is not right there......
it is either 6 hours or 1000 km or maybe 10 hours and 1000 miles....An average of 100 kph is a bit on the low side these days

henk4 · 5 Sep 2006, 07:09 (Ref:1702041)

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Originally Posted by henk4

they were openly discussing the possibility....

but the deal may not have come through as apparently now Zytek also will go there....

The Badger · 5 Sep 2006, 07:59 (Ref:1702069)

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Originally Posted by henk4

they were openly discussing the possibility....

Who is they ..... Creation or Zytek ?

**Adam43** · 5 Sep 2006, 13:28 (Ref:1702338)

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Originally Posted by 1969MGCGTdriver

I wasn't really complaining, okay maybe a little, but only in jest.

It was quite an accusation!
The race time was 2h45m0.142s.

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I have no doubt that Guy could have caught him.

McNish had to drive quite slowly to achieve the 2h45m! I feel he was pacing himself, although Smith was quicker. At the end of the lap he was 2.8s behind McNish. He was not travelling 2.8s a lap quicker.

When he came out he was 19s behind McNish on lap 97 (36 to go - 0.5s per lap). However the relative pace difference did increase as the race neared the end. That was as down to McNish controlling the pace as much as Smith quickening, as evidenced by McNishes slow lap.

According to DCS the gap was 15s with 15minutes to go. If he could close 2.8s a lap at will he'd have got McNish well before the last lap. DCS report that McNish had it under control and quotes Smith said himself that it wasn't on over the last lap.

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Passing would be a different story, I think we all agree on this.

Agreed.

paul-collins · 5 Sep 2006, 15:07 (Ref:1702405)

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Originally Posted by henk4

something is not right there......
it is either 6 hours or 1000 km or maybe 10 hours and 1000 miles....An average of 100 kph is a bit on the low side these days

Yes, miles, not km. 10h / 1000 miles. The race has never had a timed finish btw.

henk4 · 5 Sep 2006, 19:49 (Ref:1702693)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Who is they ..... Creation or Zytek ?

Johansson and Minassian

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