Team US F1 - Page 21

Amar7605 · 14 Feb 2010, 18:04 (Ref:2633296)

Well when you have someone leading the way who is a media personality, I usually expect a lot of bovine feces. Unfortunately, so far Peter Windsor is proving me right.

jab · 14 Feb 2010, 18:08 (Ref:2633298)

Umm, those forum posts from the "team member" were nonsense

**chunterer** · 14 Feb 2010, 20:12 (Ref:2633366)

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Originally Posted by jab

Umm, those forum posts from the "team member" were nonsense

Goo-on, tell us more!!

**Bononi** · 14 Feb 2010, 20:26 (Ref:2633373)

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Originally Posted by jab

Umm, those forum posts from the "team member" were nonsense

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Originally Posted by chunterer

Goo-on, tell us more!!

Please, please !

jab · 14 Feb 2010, 20:33 (Ref:2633376)

Look what I wrote when the same thing got posted a few days ago:

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Originally Posted by jab

I've read lots of conspiracy theories on F1 forums. That doesn't necessarily mean they're true. The same thing got posted on a couple of forums, and he also posted other stuff on others. Probably just an elaborate troll

The stuff he wrote just didn't add up with reality

What is real is that Eric Warren has said via Twitter that there is big news to come this week. Hopefully that'll be a driver announcement and/or rollout of the Type 1

**chunterer** · 14 Feb 2010, 20:43 (Ref:2633381)

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Originally Posted by jab

Look what I wrote when the same thing got posted a few days ago:

The stuff he wrote just didn't add up with reality

What is real is that Eric Warren has said via Twitter that there is big news to come this week. Hopefully that'll be a driver announcement and/or rollout of the Type 1

Yes, but it could equally mean a postponement or 'cancellation' of the programme.

There's nothing so far that suggests thiese people are remotely ready to go testing let alone racing.

Richard C · 15 Feb 2010, 00:08 (Ref:2633550)

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Originally Posted by jab

What is real is that Eric Warren has said via Twitter that there is big news to come this week. Hopefully that'll be a driver announcement and/or rollout of the Type 1

If I was to guess I would say any big announcements would be...

1. Pass crash test
2. Announce date for shakedown and/or launch
3. Announce second driver

I would think that any potential second driver has a strong bargaining position. In that the team must need money right now and may not have many options with respect to second drivers. So if it was me, I would expect that the sponsor(s) I am bringing would have specific milestones setup before there are any payouts. Such as a contingency with having the car crash tested before you announce me as the second driver. Additional milestones would be launch/first testing as well actually taking the green flag at a race.

I am still struggling to be hopeful. A lot has to happen over the next week or two. However I don't think it's over. They can still pull this out if all the stars align properly. So I can still manage a little enthusiasm when I say "Go USF1!"

Richard C · 15 Feb 2010, 00:13 (Ref:2633556)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

Yes, but it could equally mean a postponement or 'cancellation' of the programme.

There's nothing so far that suggests thiese people are remotely ready to go testing let alone racing.

Your point is valid, but since he said he is "Looking forward to it" (referring to this week), I doubt the expected news it going to be negative.

**GTRMagic** · 15 Feb 2010, 00:20 (Ref:2633565)

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Originally Posted by JohnSSC

Pompous Peter has been banging on about how they will be on the grid THIS year with their dynamic, lean and mean, rock and rolling, Skunkworks-type, we're doing everything different, blank sheet approach.

Further, Peter has been critical of the Summer break as this would interrupt the flow for this dynamic American team. Peter has repeatedly said they would be on the grid for the first race this season. Peter has repeatedly said they have sponsors practically beating their doors down and Peter has that really cool poster of Jim Clark on his wall. I mean, the reason I take Frank Williams so seriously is because of how he has his office decorated...

The King has no clothes.

Are you sure you dont ghost write for Deadenders?

**GTRMagic** · 15 Feb 2010, 00:21 (Ref:2633569)

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Originally Posted by Richard Casto

If I was to guess I would say any big announcements would be...

1. Pass crash test
2. Announce date for shakedown and/or launch
3. Announce second driver

I would think that any potential second driver has a strong bargaining position. In that the team must need money right now and may not have many options with respect to second drivers. So if it was me, I would expect that the sponsor(s) I am bringing would have specific milestones setup before there are any payouts. Such as a contingency with having the car crash tested before you announce me as the second driver. Additional milestones would be launch/first testing as well actually taking the green flag at a race.

I am still struggling to be hopeful. A lot has to happen over the next week or two. However I don't think it's over. They can still pull this out if all the stars align properly. So I can still manage a little enthusiasm when I say "Go USF1!"

I would think a title sponsor ,someone paying for the program, would be a good announcement to make...

Peralta · 15 Feb 2010, 00:54 (Ref:2633600)

I suppose I can ring Warren's home phone number which I have by the way but was is the point. He is not going to tell me anyhow and to be honest I don't think USF1 has any chance of making it to the grid come Bahrain. I am hoping Bernie let's them miss the first three races without penalty but that seems unlikely just to prove everyone that he was right all along that Campos and USF1 were doubtful way back in October. We can criticize Bernie but he knows what's going on in F1

**GTRMagic** · 15 Feb 2010, 01:07 (Ref:2633605)

Do Ladbrokes or someone have a market on that possibility?

JohnSSC · 15 Feb 2010, 03:30 (Ref:2633652)

GTR, I only wish I had the talent to write for Tailenders. They do some fine stuff and some of it is borderline brilliant.

Here are some of the possibilities for the "announcement" USF1 is twittering about:

1) Using a skunkworks approach, a trebuchet has been constructed using the latest CFD techniques and with no pansy European extended holidays to delay things. The trebuchet will heave a pallet of toasters at the folks who do "Tailenders."

2) A second driver of immense talent with connections to the US of A is targeted by USF1. Cora Schumacher is married to Ralf Schumacher, who once wrecked here.

3) Determined not to be constrained by foolish inanities such as schedules, timetables and repeated promises to show up for the first race this year, USF1 will announce that showing up at any race in any year will now be their goal. Chief Blatherer Peter Windsor will emphasize that their all-American, zany approach to working with skunks in ways never dreamed of by folks like Ron Dennis and Flavio Briatore will result in their "surprise appearance in some form or fashion on the Grid somewhere, even if it means having a grid girl walk by with a cardboard cutout of the secret CFD rendering of the car written with a Sharpie pen on her midriff."

JagtechOhio · 15 Feb 2010, 03:42 (Ref:2633653)

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/artic...bahrain-debut/

Big Mac · 15 Feb 2010, 06:37 (Ref:2633680)

Slightly off topic here but that is a pretty poor piece of reporting.

The insinuation in the third paragraph that Lotus, which has a car already shaken down, launched and packed for the final tests, is "possibly" in a similar state to the entries of USF1 and Campos is laughable. Ditto the innuendo regarding Stefan/Dallara/Chad Hurley. Who is writing this stuff?!?

jab · 15 Feb 2010, 14:18 (Ref:2633802)

GMM. 'Nuff said

CarolK · 15 Feb 2010, 20:03 (Ref:2633974)

Today is 15 February. Lopez's manager and usf1 said today was the crash test in the UK - it's obviously early evening there and any word or just more hot air from the buffoons??

Thanks

**Bononi** · 15 Feb 2010, 21:04 (Ref:2634008)

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Originally Posted by Big Mac

Slightly off topic here but that is a pretty poor piece of reporting.

The insinuation in the third paragraph that Lotus, which has a car already shaken down, launched and packed for the final tests, is "possibly" in a similar state to the entries of USF1 and Campos is laughable. Ditto the innuendo regarding Stefan/Dallara/Chad Hurley. Who is writing this stuff?!?

I think the guy has wrongly written Lotus instead of Campos... it happens all the time with so familiar names...

Richard C · 15 Feb 2010, 21:11 (Ref:2634010)

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Originally Posted by CarolK

Today is 15 February. Lopez's manager and usf1 said today was the crash test in the UK - it's obviously early evening there and any word or just more hot air from the buffoons??

Thanks

I think they have to test the rear crash structure, the side impact and various stuff with the monocoque itself. I would expect that might be a multi day process if you include the work of setting up and doing each test?

The quote I read from Lopez's manager was that the testing would take place 2/15-2/18. So I guess we could hear something today, but most likely they wouldn't say anything until its all done.

duke_toaster · 15 Feb 2010, 21:41 (Ref:2634025)

They wouldn't be likely to make press releases as late as 4:40pm*, really.

*Time in Charlotte, NC at time of posting.

jab · 16 Feb 2010, 00:36 (Ref:2634098)

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Originally Posted by CarolK

Today is 15 February. Lopez's manager and usf1 said today was the crash test in the UK - it's obviously early evening there and any word or just more hot air from the buffoons??

Thanks

Amar7605 · 16 Feb 2010, 01:10 (Ref:2634115)

Damn, this is like Champ Car rhetoric all over again.

"Everything's fine. Trust us - we have a plan. You'll see, and everyone will be sorry that they doubted us."

**bjohnsonsmith** · 16 Feb 2010, 01:31 (Ref:2634126)

Wow, they've finaly completed it.

Chatters · 16 Feb 2010, 01:48 (Ref:2634133)

It sure is "radical"!

Not sure it will have the acceleration or DOWNforce to keep up with its rivals though...

White flag man · 16 Feb 2010, 02:19 (Ref:2634142)

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Originally Posted by Chatters

It sure is "radical"!

Not sure it will have the acceleration or DOWNforce to keep up with its rivals though...

Once it reaches the jetstream, accelaration will be quite considerable. Downforce can easily be achieved (where's my bloody gun??!!).
Cornering................ "The answer my friend is blowing in the wind",

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