If Lola enter F1, will it affect their sportscar projects? - Page 3

Lipp · 22 May 2009, 16:12 (Ref:2467156)

Oh no! Lola entering F1!

They will lose their focus on Sportscars...

Having said that, the F1 effort of the great Spyker Squadron has never hurt the little nice cars... they have been welded together with love you know...

gwyllion · 29 May 2009, 12:08 (Ref:2471551)

According to http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=38035 Lola has commited to F1 for next year.

JAG · 29 May 2009, 14:45 (Ref:2471641)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lipp

Oh no! Lola entering F1!

They will lose their focus on Sportscars...

Having said that, the F1 effort of the great Spyker Squadron has never hurt the little nice cars... they have been welded together with love you know...

Focus?

They could do far more to develop their sportscar's but are limited to yearly updates by the need to be cost effective for their customers,

AX lover · 30 May 2009, 12:05 (Ref:2472114)

And the team will be named Aston Martin from 2012 onwards?

Quote:

Although the official release confirming the news did not mention Aston Martin, it is expected that the team will rebrand as Aston Martin from 2012, following an agreement reached with F1 rights holder Bernie Ecclestone.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/240458/

HORNDAWG · 30 May 2009, 16:18 (Ref:2472229)

Huh, are we crossing wires here? It does not appear, at least to me, that in this, the Lola<>Aston Martin~Prodrive connention will remain. Is it not 2 seperate entities on the entry list in Lola and Prodrive cum Aston Martin?

L.P.

Tom87 · 31 May 2009, 14:16 (Ref:2472705)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Huh, are we crossing wires here? It does not appear, at least to me, that in this, the Lola<>Aston Martin~Prodrive connention will remain. Is it not 2 seperate entities on the entry list in Lola and Prodrive cum Aston Martin?

L.P.

Yes, I thought it was Lola entering a team as Lola and staying and Lola, while Prodrive are to enter as Prodrive but become Aston Martin.

I'm not totally averse to seeing the two teams in F1, but I don't think that Lola in particular will get the fan or sponsorship support that they deserve. Your average F1 fan knows Lola only for 1997 and not for the huge success they have had in almost every form of motorsport.

I would hazard a guess that that is part of the reasoning behind Prodrive becoming Aston Martin, i'ts a pedigree name which people associate with motorsport...regardless of the lack of facts behind the assumption!

Tom87 · 31 May 2009, 14:24 (Ref:2472709)

In responce to the question the thread poses, I don't think much will change if Lola enters F1. Their business is building and selling racing cars, F1 is a marketing project that you invest in. It's the same as Toyota and Honda looking to out-do each other in F1. Sucess in F1 would allow Lola to offer their customers something that their competitors couldn't.

CTD · 31 May 2009, 14:28 (Ref:2472713)

Well, lets all slow down a bit, and actually look at what Lola's chances are for getting into the F1 Championship!
With FOTA agreeing to enter F1 with an ultimatum which says that the Budget rules are cut, the 2010 Season running under 2009 rules and that its "All or None" for the FOTA teams (meaning, that all if not all 9 FOTA teams are accepted, then none of the 9 wants to race!).
This ultimatum guarantees that all FOTA teams WILL race next year, as only 8 other teams have submitted to the championship! (incl. Williams) (reason for this is that 14 cars is to little on the grid and the F1 would close-down!).
So that takes up 9 of 12 spots (a maximum has been set on 12 teams by FIA)
Then out of the 8 non-FOTA teams, 3 are going to be selected!
The 8 teams being:
Williams
Lola
Prodrive
Litespeed
USF1
Campos Meta1
Epsilon Euskadi
MarchF1
Out of these 8, 4 seems to be the "favorites" of taking the remaing 3 places:
Williams
Prodrive
Lola
USF1 (this is a name which are going to change, but they are best know this way!).
Williams are almost guaranteed a place, so that leaves 2 open spots!.
So Lola, have a 2/3 shot of getting into F1 where all 3 are teams which are very likely to enter for various reasons! (USF1 being obvious as being an American team!).
So in my mind Lola are not going to F1, and i hope they are going to realize that soon, and put an end to there money wasting F1-Project!

Canada ALMS fan · 31 May 2009, 17:37 (Ref:2472794)

They are going to allow 13 teams.

Also, Team Superfund has been entered and may be teaming up with a UK constructor. (Wirth or Lola???) That could explain where Lola's funding MAY be coming from???

acox93 · 31 May 2009, 18:26 (Ref:2472814)

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Originally Posted by Canada ALMS fan

They are going to allow 13 teams.

Also, Team Superfund has been entered and may be teaming up with a UK constructor. (Wirth or Lola???) That could explain where Lola's funding MAY be coming from???

A doubt it is Lola, they have allready confirmed their entry independently. It could be Wirth though, we havnt heard much of their entry recently.

CTD · 31 May 2009, 19:43 (Ref:2472872)

I also read some where, that one of the teams had placed an order at Cosworth for engine supply!

duke_toaster · 31 May 2009, 19:53 (Ref:2472878)

USF1 have supposedly.

deggis · 12 Jun 2009, 10:01 (Ref:2480834)

Neither Prodrive or Lola are on the entry list... at least not yet.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76045

But that list is quite provisional, since the FOTA-FIA war is far from over. Including some of the FOTA teams on the list unconditionally probably just adds to the mess...

CTD · 12 Jun 2009, 10:07 (Ref:2480841)

Quote:

Originally Posted by deggis

Neither Prodrive or Lola are on the entry list... at least not yet.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76045

But that list is quite provisional, since the FOTA-FIA war is far from over. Including some of the FOTA teams on the list unconditionally probably just adds to the mess...

Im beginning to see Autosport as a pretty lousy news source!

deggis · 12 Jun 2009, 10:09 (Ref:2480845)

What?

CTD · 12 Jun 2009, 10:11 (Ref:2480851)

Quote:

Originally Posted by deggis

What? FIA just published that list.

Im sorry, found it myself on the Fia site:
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre..._entrants.aspx

Quote:

Press Release

2010 FIA Formula One World Championship Entry List

12/06/2009

Following the completion of the applications process for teams to compete in the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship, the following teams have been confirmed.

TEAM CONSTRUCTOR
SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO - FERRARI
SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO - STR TBA
RED BULL RACING - RED BULL RACING TBA
AT&T WILLIAMS - WILLIAMS TOYOTA
FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM - FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
CAMPOS GRAND PRIX - CAMPOS COSWORTH
MANOR GRAND PRIX - MANOR COSWORTH
TEAM US F1 - TEAM US F1 COSWORTH
VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES* - McLAREN MERCEDES
BMW SAUBER F1 TEAM* - BMW SAUBER
RENAULT F1 TEAM* - RENAULT
PANASONIC TOYOTA RACING* - TOYOTA
BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM* - BRAWN TBA

*These five teams have submitted conditional entries.The FIA has invited them to lift those conditions following further discussions to be concluded not later than close of business on Friday 19 June.

The maximum number of cars permitted to enter the 2010 Championship has been increased to 26, two being entered by each competitor. Pending completion of the discussions referred to above, further due diligence is currently taking place on other potential entries.

Autosport is often out with news, which only rumors, so there for i didn't take it serious when i saw Campos and Manor on the list!

deggis · 12 Jun 2009, 10:18 (Ref:2480857)

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Originally Posted by CTD

Autosport is often out with news, which only rumors

I disagree but whatever.

Anyway Autosport just updated the story: "AUTOSPORT understands the new Manor Grand Prix team is headed by F3 team boss John Booth and former grand prix team owner Nick Wirth."

gwyllion · 12 Jun 2009, 10:47 (Ref:2480886)

Quote:

Originally Posted by deggis

Neither Prodrive or Lola are on the entry list... at least not yet.

No Epsilon Euskadi either.

BTW Return of Cosworth in F1!

deggis · 12 Jun 2009, 12:23 (Ref:2480971)

Wirth connection confirmed:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76057

bil588 · 13 Jun 2009, 02:23 (Ref:2481346)

I hope Lola will build a new indycar for 2012.

deggis · 14 Jun 2009, 14:41 (Ref:2483083)

Lola to make F1 decision on Tuesday
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76194

deggis · 17 Jun 2009, 12:54 (Ref:2485186)

Lola withdraws F1 entry application
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76265

Thumper · 17 Jun 2009, 13:34 (Ref:2485214)

Press release from Lola simply says:

Lola F1 Team Ltd withdraws its application to enter Formula One™

Lola F1 Team Ltd has today advised the FIA of the decision to withdraw its application to enter the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship.

Significant financial investment has been made in producing its 2010 contender and the FIA had requested that the Lola F1 Team remain in a state of readiness for a possible future entry.

Lola F1 Team has thanked the FIA for giving its application to enter the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship serious consideration.

No further comment will be made.

**FIRE** · 17 Jun 2009, 17:25 (Ref:2485344)

CTD · 18 Jun 2009, 16:21 (Ref:2485980)

Finally!, Lets just hope Lola didn't waste too much money on this!

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