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Having just read the article, I stumbled on the mention of Watkins not being success. What did it in was the increasing cost to run the race I believe.
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I'm not sure Bernie is any worse a snake oil salesman than quite a few characters out there, like the "top bankers" and hedge-fund managers. And I think cities are going toe be FAR MORE ****ed off, and this will be across the entire country mind you, by the wider impact of this current mess in the NFL.
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Enough austin bashing. Give it a chance at least the first time. this is 2011 and the world power brokers are changing daily. Feel forunate you even got a race in the USA again. IMO. Americans in general probably don't hate the British. BE sucks period, no mater his nationality.
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I don't agree with the people that say Americans won't go to Austin to the GP. From my perception, the Indianapolis event was one of the GPs with more people in the stands. Ok, it's the American capital of motorsport, but I don't think that's only because of that. Americans are a people that wouldn't allow an event of worldwide projection to be held in their territory and with the grandstands not full.
They would be embarassed by that and they will go there even if they have no clue what is F1 or who is Vettel or Hamilton, Webber, Alonso, etc. |
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Well I for one really hope this works.
I can understand the controversy about state funding in the current economy but I think the GP will put Austin on the world map, which currently it isn't, and that will be the benefit for taxpayers. If you asked a European to name a city in Texas they'd say Houston first, or at a pinch and if they were a little older Dallas (because of the TV show). I bet hardly anyone would say Austin or even know it's the State capital. I've been lucky enough to vist Texas many times and Austin is an undiscovered gem for me. I think it's slightly "alternative" nature will fit in really well with F1 fans and others if they only knew it existed. That's where I think the benefits will come from for the people paying for the tax breaks. |
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There's still San Antonio to add to that list of Texas cities that people would say before mentioning the capital. But there you go, like Dallas and Houston they also have a NBA team, so that's probably the reason. Also it seems to me that Austin is the capital of Texas in the same way Den Hague is the capital of the Netherlands: for a reason other than its size, population or economic importance in the region
I do agree that having a NBA team or hosting a Grand Prix "puts the city on the map" and probably all the money invested will return. I just don't agree that, because of this, they charge the city for that privilege the amount of money they do.. it just doesn't seem right.. Chosing the cities based on merit or well defined criteria seems to be the fairer option, like they do with the Olympics or the World Cup. Although we all know that that tends to generate corruption, it's still a better way to go.. |
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Problem with doing it that way is the well known cities will always have an advantage and the Austins of this world don't get the chance to put themselves on the map. When was the last time the Olympics went to a place no one had heard of? Well I suppose there's London coming up .
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Some of the Austin talk is ridiculous. Its a metro of nearly 2 million people, and is home to some of the largest corporations in the world and one of the top US public Universities. I think the GP would do fine there.
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Followers of the American F1 Venue "Circuit of the Americas".
Time to stop wondering what is going on in Austin, Texas. USA, concerning the 2012 scheduled F1 event and the new circuit there. No more rumors. You can actually follow the news on this event as it unfolds (freedom of the press in the USA). Read what the locals think and find out what the politicians are up to. There might even be something revealed about B.E. in this stuff somewhere. He did have a hand in this after all.
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/conte...ing/index.html http://circuitoftheamericas.com/index.html http://circuitoftheamericas.com/news_archive.html There is even a current twitter and Facebook string for this news: Twitter @StatesmanF1 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/Formula1Austin You have no doubt heard every pro and con for this event imaginable. Now search for the truth your self. Glad to be of assistance. Mike. P.S. Personally I hope it succeeds. Of course I hoped Indy would be a success to. Last edited by ujoint; 13 Jun 2011 at 03:27. |
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I hope it suceeds too. I think it's good for F1 and America to have a race there. Trouble for Indy, imo, apart from the infield being too Mickey Mouse, BE and Tony George were never always going to see eye to eye. I like the fact that TG stood up to BE, but that doesn't make for a happy relationship!
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Why... why... why do they always have to do stupid projectos for the inside of the tracks?
Do they really need those S sequences there? |
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Well F1 needs to be in the US. I hope this time it works out. As for the track, well I will reserve judgement on that for now. It is at least good to hear that there is some elevation change at the circuit.
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quote me: "Followers of the American F1 Venue "Circuit of the Americas". I Originally set this up as a separate thread because of all the current news links about this race surfacing now (actually they have been around awhile). The intent wast to let last minute followers on the 10-10ths... F1 forum find this information with out having to scour the complete Austin... thread now totaling over 50 pages. Not too many visitors are going to read all 52 pages about the F1 race in the US. I did to see if the links to news sources I found were here. They were not. This information will be lost to most in a few dozen posts and then you will be getting the same old questions, comments etc. about Austin, Texas posted over and over again. This is my opinion only. You are the Mods and if this is where you want this posted it is fine with me. I know more about Austin Texas than I care to divulge but if I need more of that blather I know where to find it. Thanks for putting this info here. Hope I made sense here. hah hah.
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Agree with that. Many of the sponsors in F1 would certainly like the exposure a GP in the US will bring them, especially in these times of economic difficulty.
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Thank you for starting the thread ujoint I merged the two as we already had an "Austin Grand Prix" thread.. I am sure that everyone will see your links and go to them as they feel they need to..
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