[BTCC] 2014 BTCC speculation, rumours and news

[Cesco44]

Coronel in a WSR Bmw...Fanta Btcc?

Tom was close to be in the championship in 2009...

[pinkd56]

Originally Posted by Cesco44

Coronel in a WSR Bmw...Fanta Btcc?

Is there any source on this or is it wishful thinking?

[davyboy]

Originally Posted by pinkd56

Is there any source on this or is it wishful thinking?

According to Autosport here, he says he's in the sh*t, so unless that's a euphemism for WSR, I think there's no truth in the rumour !

[davyboy]

Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Silhouette uses a tubular spaceframe chassis. BTCC still uses a production bodyshell, but with serious mods. But it has it's origins in something from the production line.

Pretty much... I suppose you could call a NGTC a semi-space-framed car. Ostensibly the front is fully space framed and depending on the configuration of the car, the rear is either part or fully space framed too. the middle passenger compartment is the production shell.

[davyboy]

I agree with what others have said, the Honda looks brilliant... arguably the best looking estate racing car I've seen.

[medius]

https://www.facebook.com/notes/honda...55336084524826

Interesting quotes.

Peter Crolla, Team Manager commented: “Racing with the Civic Tourer means no compromise over the Civic hatchback. The weight, wheelbase, layout and suspension remain the same, but naturally, the length of the car is extended due to the larger tailgate. After two competitive seasons in the BTCC with the hatchback, it will be an interesting challenge to ensure the Tourer keeps Matt, Flash and the team at the head of the championships throughout next season. We’ve worked hard over the past few months to develop the first car which will be completed as we head towards the new year, with the first run scheduled for early January.”

So basically the same but longer, more rear weight bias? The Civics were a more than a little tail-happy the last two seasons.

And....

Phil Crossman, Managing Director, Honda (UK) concluded: “We wanted to add a new challenge to the mix and really show what Honda and the team can do. By racing the new Tourer after several years with the Civic hatchback we can really showcase our growing range and demonstrate that the versatility and practicality of a Tourer doesn’t compromise dynamic performance. We are only four months away from the start of the 2014 season and I can’t wait to see the cars out on the track. They’re going to look great and there’s no doubt in my mind that they will win races.

Honda UK marketing decision rather than one based on racing dynamics?

[dan290888]

Why did Volvo stop using the estate?

I seem to remember it was due to the rear aero being compromised by the rules surrounding wing positioning?

Rear wing had to be mounted below the level of the roofline or something?

[medius]

Originally Posted by dan290888

Why did Volvo stop using the estate?

I seem to remember it was due to the rear aero being compromised by the rules surrounding wing positioning?

Rear wing had to be mounted below the level of the roofline or something?

Yeah, the wing wasn't allowed to be above the roofline, nor behind the rear bumper.

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by dan290888

Why did Volvo stop using the estate?

I seem to remember it was due to the rear aero being compromised by the rules surrounding wing positioning?

Rear wing had to be mounted below the level of the roofline or something?

because the rules changed for 1995 following the Alfa debacle and everyone was allowed a rear wing, the estate didn't make sense anymore

[FIRE]

The Honda looks nice.

[dan290888]

On the photo of Shedden's car it looks like the wing sits level with the roofline and within the limits of the rear bumper. The sloped nature of the rear lends itself to that whereas the old 850 was near vertical.

It'll be interesting to see how they compare with the Pirtek hatches! I think it looks pretty good and it appears it will lose the disadvantages of the hatch without losing the advantages! could be unstoppable!

[porsche962fan]

we will have to wait for Donington to see top speeds between this Tourer compared the old hatches of Pirtek

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

This is the real deal...

...just imagine that thing flat through Copse...

[psq43]

So next season could bring the first BTCC win for a hearse!

[porsche962fan]

Martin Depper confirmed at Pirtek , hope he does a better job than Smith at least by not ramming people off the track

[medius]

So, I'm betting he's just bought the car from Jeff Smith and gotten Eurotech to run it, makes sense as they know the car and he can learn a lot from someone like Andrew Jordan.

[thetool]

Originally Posted by medius

So, I'm betting he's just bought the car from Jeff Smith and gotten Eurotech to run it, makes sense as they know the car and he can learn a lot from someone like Andrew Jordan.

So exactly what Jeff did, and actually what a good proportion of the grid do!

[CarsCarsCars]

I used the blueprints from here: https://picasaweb.google.com/1114493...53788516048114

To make this size comparison:

[thetool]

The tourer has exactly the same wheelbase as the standard Civic, so really it won't make that much of a difference. Slight change in the weight balance rearwards which will make it kinder to its front tyres, a stability improvement and also potentially an aerodynamic improvement (although this is managed by TOCA.)

[porsche962fan]

I was thinking perhaps higher top speed due to the shape

we will have to wait until Donington and its long straight

also you all forget the new Honda engine, I am very sure it will designed to work at lowest boost and get every inch of power out of that

[mirror images]

BTCC Here you go guys! Tordoff out at MG, with cars 2 and 3 going to Tom Ingram and the returning Luke Hines.

[BtccLee]

Originally Posted by mirror images

BTCC Here you go guys! Tordoff out at MG, with cars 2 and 3 going to Tom Ingram and the returning Luke Hines.

Where the heck did this come from???

I hope Tordoff can get a seat elsewhere if this is true. WSR maybe if Foster leaves, he has RWD expereince.

[BillWiskins]

Didn't see that coming. Financial reasons? Can't possibly have been based on performance...

[PandaKing]

One thing that has made me scratch my head, in the promo materials so far, Neal's car has switched from #2 to #4 to obviously reflect his finishing position last season. But every pic/graphic I've seen of Flash's car still carries the #1. What's with that? If AJ had a superstition and wanted to stick with #77, surely #1 would go unused, or is Team Dynamics being lazy and not changing it to #2?

[thetool]

Originally Posted by BillWiskins

Didn't see that coming. Financial reasons? Can't possibly have been based on performance...

Bear in mind this is the guy who claimed he had no idea where the stories linking MG to the BTCC were coming from the day before their entry with Plato was announced.