Following an article in Octane magazine

[esper]

Originally Posted by TorqueWench

Don't forget, when those cars were 15-20 years old they were scrapped, unused, worn out and unloved. Just think of the Capri for goodness' sake. So then you get to a stage where they are RARE! That's when they become much-loved, by the little boys (and girls) who were 10 years old when their heroes were driving them (from the Sweeney to The Professionals and Starsky & Hutch). They come and watch our Swinging 60s cars because they loved them then. Have you not spotted that crowds (!) at HGPCA events are in their 60s, at TGP are in their 50s, at CSCC are in their 40s, and our Tin Tops have teenagers drooling over Honda Integra Type Rs. It was ever thus. Not that the "crowds" matter, since the circuits don't promote Club events (see another thread)

You are right but mentioned a car , maybe a good one, but then ................The paintings of van Gogh where always beautifull but onlty little period they where less in vogue. beauty is eternal. Cars designed by marketing depts in the 60ties didn't survive the 70ties. the beautifull ones designed with passion stay.
I will go to my doctor , my classiccarlove is not age related VSCC,GGPCA,TGP,CSCC I like it all...............by the way how old are the crowds at VSCC races?

[simon drabble]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Hall

This may be a new thread but does anyone seriously beleive that internal combustion engined cars will be racing in 40 years time?

so will we be racing electric cars? If so I better start buying the old scaletrics!! The child analogy is a very well worn one which I believed for a long time. However if you look at the spiralling values of 60's cars over 70's I am not sure it holds. I think its simply a function of what you can race in and what is competitive.
I would like to think that Pantera's etc are a clever thing to get into but until there are some good long distance prestigeous meetings they will live in the shadow of their Goodwood eligible older brothers....

[TorqueWench]

Originally Posted by simon drabble

so will we be racing electric cars? ....

The BOSS cars have Judd engines as their original F1 engines ran on ECUs that the teams destroyed so noone could "inspect" them, so they retained the chassis/bodywork/gearbox (I guess) and installed solid powerful engines.

There's always a way round these things - if you have somewhere to race them, someone'll buy them, teams will prepare and run them for customers. It's a business financed by keen (and sometimes but not always) wealthy amateurs

It's also brilliant fun - actually, I think that's the most important reasoon of all!

[esper]

Originally Posted by Jeremy Hall

This may be a new thread but does anyone seriously beleive that internal combustion engined cars will be racing in 40 years time?

I'll grow plants to make ethanol (they don;t do anything against growing drugs which are an enormous a threat for my children or growing up young people so let me grow for my own "drug"). I would make my own circuit if needed. Racing will continue , even in all our Nanny countries. Just think of Robin Hood, he was English wasnt he?

[terence]

Originally Posted by esper

I'll grow plants to make ethanol (they don;t do anything against growing drugs which are an enormous a threat for my children or growing up young people so let me grow for my own "drug"). I would make my own circuit if needed. Racing will continue , even in all our Nanny countries. Just think of Robin Hood, he was English wasnt he?

Will you,r circuit have nice swooping hills Esper??

[esper]

Originally Posted by terence bower

Will you,r circuit have nice swooping hills Esper??

o yes, uphill eaurouge and then down hill paddock hill bend followed by Scheivlak. Verdict whenever man can find something to "burn" he'll race

[Anuauto]

Originally Posted by esper

Just think of Robin Hood, he was English wasnt he?

and he's still into historic motor sport:
http://www.robinhoodforeststages.co.uk/

[esper]

Originally Posted by Anuauto

and he's still into historic motor sport:
http://www.robinhoodforeststages.co.uk/

looks great 240z tr8 MKI escorts etc etc !!! but correct me when wrong I thought Robin Hood was more Nottingham forrest than Doncaster? But anyway great name for a rally!!!!! As you know you could use the name for historic trackracing in years to come

[PeterMorley]

Originally Posted by TorqueWench

The BOSS cars have Judd engines as their original F1 engines ran on ECUs that the teams destroyed so noone could "inspect" them, so they retained the chassis/bodywork/gearbox (I guess) and installed solid powerful engines.

In a lot of cases they refused to let the electronics leave the factory in case someone stole the technology, a decade or so further on the chances are the technology is no longer so highly guarded so they might be prepared to supply the ECU etc., but chances are they scrapped it many years ago.

Some BOSS cars have fitted alternative ECUs, you can buy modern programmable ECUs that are more sophisticated than they had in period and are adaptable for different engines.

Even the cars with launch control, automatic gearboxes etc can be adapted, it is just a case of throwing enough money at them (e.g. 93 Ferraris can be ran without all the electronics, but whether it is worth converting a back of the grid 93 car is questionable).

The chances of getting a computer car running with the original equipment is pretty low - mainly because it will be very hard to find the correct off-board computer gear.

A friend who knows the Toyota F1 people said that since the person who designed the electronics for their first F1 car has left they will never be able to get it running again!

[Alan Raine]

Originally Posted by PeterMorley

A friend who knows the Toyota F1 people said that since the person who designed the electronics for their first F1 car has left they will never be able to get it running again!

I heard something similar with the Sauber Sports Cars about 5 or 6 years ago. Nobody ran the software anymore so it was going to be difficult to run them again, although I think they are running now.

[John Turner]

Terence, I hope you don't mind, but felt that your post was probably more appropriate to the 'Originals V Replicas' thread, so I have moved it there.

[terence]

No problem John,Thanks for that.